Guardian Radio Today - October 8 2025

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM, streaming on guardiantalkradio.com and the Guardian Radio app, Nassau, Bahamas. The views and opinions of the hosts and guests are their own and do not alter the views of the management and staff of Guardian Radio. [00:00:37] Speaker B: Welcome, welcome, welcome to another edition of Guardian Radio Today with your host, Dr. Cleveland W. Eneas III, also known as Kahun Anku Sarah. Today's show is brought to you by Commonwealth Bank, Wendy's, the Cleveland Clinic, Fidelity Bank, Burger King and Ron's Electric Motors. Of course, you've heard it. Z Live is moving to 12 noon or 12pm Starting next week Tuesday. And beginning next week, Guardian Radio Today, this show will be moving into that spot from 2pm until 4pm that's right. So join me and Garth Roseborough and friends every weekday here on Guardian Radio today starting at 2pm beginning, we're going to be sliding down and Mr. Lang is going to be sliding up. So I pray that you stay with us here on 96.9 Guardian Radio. Same fresh news, same smart talk all day, just, you know, sliding things around a little bit. Today we have a special guest in our first hour and then the second hour we'll open up the lines. I'll open up the lines a little bit in the first hour, too, but in the second hour we'll kind of just have an open line or continue to talk about what happens in this first hour. Our special guest today is none other than rev. Dr. A.J. varma. He is the high priest of the Holy Coptic Church of the Black Messiah. And he's going to be with us to talk about remembering what we lived when we were successful as a people. Remembering what we lived when we were successful as a people. Why is this conversation so important? Here in the Bahamas, of course, we have many challenges. Economic challenges, reliance on tourism and finance services, a lack of economic diversification, high public debt, inadequate infrastructure. We have social challenges, right? Deep inequality and poverty, right? We have rampant crime. We have strained immigration policies. We have corruption and lack of transfusion with leadership. We have legal legacies that go back to colonialization, right? The days of colonialization. We have environmental challenges, right? Climate change is, is happening every day rapidly, right? The cost of natural disasters, right? We could go on and on and on. And oftentimes we focus so intently on the symptoms of these issues or in fact, some of these are the actual symptoms. And we don't really get down to the core or the crux of what it is that we need to be doing as a people, especially when it comes to our identity. I googled the problems in post colonial Bahamas and I was waiting to see if they even mentioned this identity crisis that we're going through. And usually in all of the searches I do, they don't mention anything. But you know, we're going to talk a little bit about that and more. Let me welcome our guest today. REV. Dr. A.J. vaughn, my brother. How you doing? [00:04:07] Speaker C: I'm doing well. [00:04:08] Speaker B: How about yourself, man? We doing great. We're doing great. [00:04:11] Speaker C: Listen, you were describing that, man. It sounds like America. [00:04:15] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. [00:04:18] Speaker C: It sounds like a global situation. [00:04:19] Speaker B: It is not just us. It's not just us. Oftentimes I get, I get requests to, to touch on these types of topics and happy you made yourself available today for this first hour. One of the things that we've been discussing over the past few weeks and a question that has come across our desk on Guardian Radio today, this Book of Enoch. People always talking about this Book of Enoch and book of Jubilees. And I'm asking because there's been such a deliberate, such a deliberate, deliberate movement to make sure that we as a people, especially our Nubian Mellonite people, that we remain ignorant about our spirituality and the records that undergird that spirituality. And so I wanted to start there basesh because I wanted to get your understanding on those books in particular. But then of course any of the other missing books that just, we, we're not even aware of. If you could just help us with that, please. [00:05:30] Speaker C: Well, yeah, let's, let's look at it this way. When people talk about, and I'm talking about those of us that are Christian or those of us that are Hebrews or Muslims or people of faith, men and women of faith. When we look at the state of the world, when we look at the condition and this book of Jubilee and how it would break down, you know, events into these 49 year cycles or the Book of Enoch. Talking about when Enoch, you know, the idea that there was an ancient apocalypse and Enoch was dealing with rebellious angels and having to stand with God and it looks like today. Right, right. If you read some of these writings now, even more so when you, and this is, anyone can, can actually look it up. There's over right today I think there's 21. 21 books that are mentioned in the Bible yet I think that's the number. Yeah. In fact I know that's the number 21 books mentioned in the Bible. King James, New International Ryrie, you know that you don't find today 21. Wow. That are in there just 21 books by name, chapter, verse. That means there's something if, if you, you said this textbook has 66 books. And for me to become a thoracic surgeon or cardiac cardiologist or neurosurgeon or obstetrics, whatever, right? And you say that to become that you need this textbook and you have to master this textbook. And then I get the textbook, but it's missing 21 chapters. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Wow, you're in trouble. [00:07:14] Speaker C: Well, I don't know. You're in trouble. Patients are right. You may not be with the people you're going to be operating on because there's 21 chapters of information that are missing. And so when, when you say in, in your introduction, you said the idea of, you know, remembering when we were great, like, what does that mean? How important is that? [00:07:38] Speaker B: That. [00:07:38] Speaker C: Well, our greatness was when you look at just, just in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, depending on which countries around the world, when people melanated countries and lands were fighting for their independence from colonialism and you know, that whole. [00:07:53] Speaker D: Right. [00:07:54] Speaker C: Political system or actual system, the people who were fighting for this independence, these were scholars, number one. They understood the importance of scholarship. They were readers. You can't name one melanated or black liberator in any land who was not an avid reader investigator. Because in order to go against a system, you have to have a revolutionary mind, right? If you're born in apartheid, if you're born in colonialism in Bahamas, if you're born in Trinidad or Jamaica or Liberia or Ghana or wherever, if you're born under these conditions and have been programmed and educated under those conditions, and yet get to a point in your life where you say, I no longer want to live under these conditions and I'm going to usurp these conditions and free myself and my people. That person is radical in their thinking, that person is revolutionary in their thinking. And then to be able to do that, you would have to not only think outside the box, but you have to understand everything within the box. Mean you have to master their system. Because now you're talking to their media, their court systems, their international. You follow your voice box. So these people understood the importance of scholarship. And scholarship was, was not just reading what was comfortable, was not just reading or studying what made me feel good or what I believe. [00:09:27] Speaker D: Right. [00:09:27] Speaker C: It was studying beyond my personal belief in order to get a well rounded perspective of my situation and how to come through it. And these great men and women of our not so distant past, globally pulled it off. [00:09:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:09:44] Speaker C: And then the baton was Passed. And many of us weren't ready. We, we weren't ready to take that baton. We went from fighting for liberation for the whole to now, the whole is now fighting against each other as to who's going to now be in control or who's going to have the more money or more sex or more whatever it is that everybody's fighting for today. And we forgot that idea of community. So if we go back, whether it's Book of Jubilees, book of Enoch, the missing books of the Bible, and see what did those people about past scriptural past, what did they do? What did Enoch do? If you, if you follow the Book of Enoch, let's say if a person does, or the book of Jubilee, let's say if a person does, or the, the Enuma Elise, that's when what, what did these great men and women of the ancient scriptures and the great men and women of the not so distant past, what did they do? They had scholarship. And then scholarship said that once you read your scripture or your history or your doctrine or your sciences, you didn't just read it because a lot of people agreed at that nowadays, but then you applied it, you implemented what you read. [00:10:48] Speaker D: Right, Right. [00:10:49] Speaker C: The, the, the protesting that took place in India against the British Raj. [00:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:57] Speaker C: Led by Mahatma Gandhi and others. Right. They read about Garvey. Gandhi was a racist. [00:11:02] Speaker D: Right. [00:11:03] Speaker C: He didn't like black people thinking Aryan Hinduism. [00:11:07] Speaker D: Right. [00:11:08] Speaker C: He was a racist. But he read what Garvey said and what, and how he could see that it worked and he applied it. Wow. So he wasn't so racist or. So you can read. I can read what the enemy is doing to learn tactics, to deal with the enemy. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:25] Speaker C: It's part of remembering that past. [00:11:27] Speaker B: And that's proof, sir, that's proof that we dropped the baton because someone else picked it up and used it in their life. [00:11:34] Speaker C: Exactly. How are we melanated people rejecting Garvey, yet the people of India benefited because Mahatma Gandhi read the writings of Garvey and applied it. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Right. [00:11:44] Speaker C: That's kind of like, whoa. [00:11:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:46] Speaker C: So this man Garvey was so brilliant that we black people in the church today, because, you know, we're neither Jew nor gentile, we're all one in Christ, and that's a beautiful thing. But meanwhile, we're watching Jews and gentiles having issues in the Middle East. But anyway, yeah, right. So there is a split. We cannot continue to look at our great teachers, right. We reject Shahrazad Ali. She wrote the Black Man's Guide to Understanding the black woman. Black Woman's guide to understanding a black Man. She wrote about relationships. We reject her. There's a young white girl, I can't remember her name. She's all on. On YouTube and Instagram. She's on everybody's show. I forget her name. Just real basic straight here, you know, Caucasian girl or lady and. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Oh yeah, I think I know you mean. [00:12:29] Speaker C: And she says everything Shahazad Ali was saying that about women, black women, and they praise her. [00:12:35] Speaker B: Right. [00:12:36] Speaker C: I said, well, wait a minute. You're praising her in 2025 or the last two, three years for saying what Shaharazad Ali was saying back in 1982 and what Clara Muhammad, the wife of Elijah Muhammad was saying back in 1944. [00:12:53] Speaker D: Wow. [00:12:54] Speaker C: You understand? Yeah. Scripture says we reject our own prophets. [00:12:58] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:59] Speaker C: We reject, you know, because the creator of the boundless universes has sent to every nation of people warners and guides. The difference is other nations of people accept what their warners and guides say for their betterment. We tend to reject anything that does not fit what makes me feel good. And we've got to change that. We to remember that great path. All of the benefits that we. We've been able to. As tough as we say things are today, yeah, we benefiting what our grandparents were dealing with. Now we headed back there. Now we got a time machine going back. But for most of us, we've not really experienced the threat of racism, white supremacy. We're seeing it now. And it's not rearing its ugly head. The body's out. It's walking around. It's like a roaring. Scripture says the devil is like a ravening, roaring lion seeking to consume you, walking about proud. The emboldenedness of what we're hearing. We've better start reading our history while that history is still available and take note of what they dealt with so that we can recognize what we're looking at and make the right moves. It's like just playing chess. When you play chess, you do a thing called notation. Every move I make, I write down. Every move you make, I write down. Why? Because if someone makes a move, we can go back to study the game, the chess match, or we can go back to see where mistakes were made. We're not doing that. And we now we see what's happening. Other people can't see, but because we don't like what we see, we're creating an alter reality in our minds and believe because our alter reality in our mind is what we believe and like to say that that's what's actually happening. [00:14:54] Speaker A: And that's. [00:14:55] Speaker C: That's crazy. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean I was just watching the news this morning and there was a gentleman on MSNBC and he said we got about a year before America is just what it used to be. [00:15:12] Speaker C: Say that one more again. I don't think they heard it. [00:15:14] Speaker B: Yeah, on MSNBC this morning, he used the word authoritarian. He said we got one more year before America is back to just. Or being an authoritarian ruled country. [00:15:25] Speaker C: Now let, now let me take it a step further. You mean globally? I think that's the problem people are making. Right. Nationalism is not an American issue. [00:15:38] Speaker B: That's right. [00:15:40] Speaker C: It's a global. We're talking about racism, white supremacy. That Joe Biden spoke about. [00:15:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:47] Speaker C: That former Vice President Kamala Harris spoke about. That former President Barack Obama spoke about. That former First Lady Michelle Obama spoke about. So this is not a. Oh, what y'. All. This is documented already. When President Biden first came in, he said the most dangerous. So this is. But it's a global system of oppression against melanated people. And that system has organized itself. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:20] Speaker C: See, before you could run and go to certain other countries and try to quote unquote, hide and lay low. But now because of the interconnectedness of the, of the social systems of the world, the interconnectedness of the business or trade systems of the world, it's going to be bad. So people, what did our forefathers do in the not so distant past in the last hundred years? We grew our own food. We got back to farming. Because if you can feed yourself, the rest we can, we can figure out. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Right. [00:16:52] Speaker C: But if you hungry. Oh, that's a hard figuring out. Get back to farming. Get back to gardening. Get back to. But I don't have a lot of land. Grow some food in the backyard. Grow. Throw them on the windowsill. Throw them on the roof. You know, if you got a flat roof, you, you can do something. You better start preparing for survival. Yes, we become addicted to, to the, to the goods that are shipped into our countries. And I say that not just the Bahamas. I'm from Liberia, West Africa. That's where I was born and everything. You walk into the stores and you see all this stuff, all these goods, much of it not even good for you being shipped in. And we're. And we're consuming, consuming. And that, that addiction. The book of Revelations calls it the. The delicacies of the harlot. [00:17:36] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:36] Speaker C: The things that the, that the beast. The. The man of sin in second Thessalonians has told us that we need. You know, I got to take. If I love my child, I got to take it to McDonald's. If I love my, my, my family. We got to have a KFC bucket, 25 piece with the sodas. If I really. I got to get the Papa John's and the. I'm gonna make people hungry right in the Pizza Hut. Right, right. That's what. And we've been. Now we've bought into that. We've bought into that. And that keeps you enslaved to the system of racial oppression. A person's diet. If this wasn't the case, then the, the, the people, as they would invade lands, the conquestadores, Europeans, et cetera, when they were invading different melanated lands, including these United States, they would not have eliminated your food sources by raising land, massacring the buffaloes and things of that nature to force you to have. To have to eat from them. This, this is not a new system. This system's been running over and over and will continue to run until we do something about it. What's to do something about it mean? Step away from it and do what Garvey taught us to do. Do what Amy Jacques Garvey taught us to do. Do what Elijah Muhammad do for self. We. You, Baba Elijah Muhammad said, you can't expect the people to respect you when you're begging them to do for you what you ought do for yourself. [00:19:00] Speaker B: Amen. [00:19:01] Speaker C: And so I, I. We have to ask each other, what are we women? Are we men? Are we little boys and little girls? Are we invalids? Because we have the capacity to do for ourselves. And we're watching. There are nations like Burkina Faso. They're doing it. There's nations like Togo. They're doing it. There's Benin. They're doing it. So this notion that it can't be done unless you have this military might, that is not the truth. But it also means that the church has a role to play. If the church is not revolutionary in its thinking, I don't remember. So please don't misquote me. I'm talking revolutionary, meaning to change the way we think, to revolve, to go back, to go forward. An African saying called Sankofa, you must go back. To go forward, you must pull the arrow, the bow back. For the arrow to go forward, you must look at your past and retrace it in order to blueprint your present and foretell your future. Sankofa. And so that idea, if we are not stewards of our past, you know, in church we talk about being stewards. Stewards. Well, we. We. Part of being a steward is to be a steward of the past. If it's the biblical past, then we got to get back to the law. We can't. We can't say, I'm a steward of the kingdom of God and heirs to the throne of God. Well, if you're heirs to the throne of God, God's throne has rules. [00:20:22] Speaker D: Yes. [00:20:23] Speaker C: And if we are going against the rules of that throne because somebody else came along and told us, you don't got to do that no more, While God in Matthews 5:17 is saying, you do got to do that to the end of the earth, and earth is still here, I got a problem. [00:20:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:37] Speaker C: And if there's pastors who read that enough to say that or will try to wiggle away from that because they're doing corruption too, then we got to hold them to the fire, hold them accountable as well. [00:20:48] Speaker D: Yes, yes. [00:20:52] Speaker B: Another. Another question. [00:20:54] Speaker C: Hey. Hey. [00:20:55] Speaker B: We do what we do, right? [00:20:57] Speaker C: We do what we do. [00:20:58] Speaker B: It's African Holocaust Month, and we want to make sure that we, you know, we want to speak up and make sure that the voices of our ancestors are being heard, because too often we ignore, you know, what they wanted for us to do. But. But we can do different. You know what I mean? [00:21:15] Speaker C: Right. [00:21:15] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:21:16] Speaker C: Because the people who were fighting for. To overcome colonization and slavery, I don't think this is what they saw. In fact, I know if they had a crystal ball to see what we're doing right now, they'd have been like, man, I ain't sacrificing my life. [00:21:28] Speaker B: No, exactly. Exactly. [00:21:30] Speaker C: But obviously they saw us winning. Obviously, they saw a greater future than what we presented as our present. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Yes. [00:21:37] Speaker C: So I think we need to continue to work to get to that future. Future. To get to that future and. And turn away from this idea of, I don't need nobody. I got this. I don't follow no man, or that kind of silliness. It ain't gonna work. [00:21:50] Speaker B: And. And so, segueing into another question that came up over the past two weeks, a young lady called in and she. She asked about. About, you know, how. How do we see that as. As a church? [00:22:05] Speaker C: And. [00:22:05] Speaker B: And how does it. How did it. Does it factor into how us originally as a people? So I wanted to throw that on the table as well, because the change in times is going to dictate some change in the family as well. [00:22:17] Speaker C: Well, no, it's not about changing times. We've been there. Nothing changed. Ah, there's Always been more women than men. That's not new news, not like CNN breaking news. There's more women being born than men. Didn't even know. I couldn't. Come on, let's stop, right? The reality book of Isaiah, chapter four says, in that day, seven women will take hold to one man and will say, we have our own wealth. We have our own home. Please come that we may be with you. That we may have a name, not a last name. They use the word Shem. That we may have a legacy. The word Shem. So that's what we're dealing with now, everybody, like I've said a few years ago, with the great Shanique Miller there in the. In she, lovely lady. And she always has brought us up and showed us nothing but respect and love, and we extend that same to her. And in the conversation, I said, Bahamas has 20, almost thousand extra women to men. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Yes. The last census, 15. Yeah, right. [00:23:24] Speaker C: So, okay, so it's just math. It's just a math thing. You got 90,000 men, let's say, and 110,000 women. Now, if I'm female, I can say, God's going to send me a man. That's wonderful. You know, nowhere in the Bible does it say, God gonna send you a man. But. [00:23:43] Speaker D: Okay, right. [00:23:43] Speaker C: But we're gonna go ahead and we're. [00:23:45] Speaker D: Gonna rock with that for right now. [00:23:47] Speaker C: Right from where? [00:23:49] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:23:53] Speaker C: This is not like, you know, oh, we could just. If we put a little bit of salt and pepper in the pot, we just stir it up and add a little. Couple more. You know, you can stretch the pancake batter. That's not what we're doing. You're asking to be sent a whole human being who has not been born. [00:24:10] Speaker B: Wow. [00:24:10] Speaker C: Too young for you. You go into jail. You are. Kelly. You screwed right now. Again, that might sound harsh, but it's not to be harsh, it's to be truthful. Now, so most females in some way, form or fashion are going to be sharing their man globally. Globally, globally. I, I'm not saying right and wrong. I'm not getting into who cheated, who didn't cheat. That's for each person's life experiences. And he wasn't truthful. If he had told me, yada, yada, yada, you know, throw it all in the table, no problem. 20,000 less men than women. You're. You can't. You, you can't marry what ain't been born. So our forefathers, how many the people in the 1940s and 50s and 60s in Bahamas had fathers Grandfathers who had multiple families that they took care of, and everybody knew about it. [00:25:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:25:06] Speaker C: It's not. It's not breaking news now. It's not. It's not breaking news now. Yeah, but you know, my grandmother wasn't having that. Whether you monogamy, protagony, whatever, happy. That ain't got nothing to do with. With how you're married. It has just to do with two people being unequally yolked. Let's just have a real conversation. Because Abraham had three wives. David had more than one wife. Solomon had more than one wife. Judah had more than one wife. Jacob had more than one wife. This is. We praise the Bible when we want to praise the Bible and then we reject it. Yeah, but the. Paul said. Paul was a Roman and the Romans was into boys. So of course. [00:25:37] Speaker D: And. [00:25:38] Speaker C: And men. So of course guys that's into men are going to tell you they only want one wife. That's what the Greeks were doing. They all had one. One wife. And then I had a bunch of male friends with quotations on the end. But these were not the people of the covenant. The people of the covenant lived this way. And there was no single parents or single mothers. There weren't orphans. These things didn't exist right now. Does that just be every man, Go out there, grab a woman, get two, three dogs? That's not. We didn't say that. I said scripture. I said culture. I said rules. I said laws. There's laws that govern it. The Bible says if a man has a wife and he has a second wife, and he hated the first wife, but they fought because they fell out, and. But he's still obligated to take care of the first wife and the children. [00:26:26] Speaker D: There were rules. [00:26:29] Speaker C: There were rules. There were laws. This was not. But today we're socially cool. You know, you'll get with a lady and she say, baby, we just got together. What's your fantasy, guy? Oh, man. Threesome. Okay. We could try it. I think we can find somebody that's okay. Which scripturally isn't right. Two women should not be in the room. The scripture says a woman should not look at the naked body of another woman and a man should not look at the naked body of another man. So if it's three of us in the bedroom, somebody violating somewhere. Right, but we okay with that. We're okay with that because it's not legal. We can do wife swap. We can do couple swingers. We can do truffles and truffles. We can do polyamory. We can do all of that. That scripturally says no. But the thing that the scripture says, polygamy as they call it, which is just family, which was just culture, that thing we're against. So it's not about what do we say Everybody is in some way, I can't say every single person on the planet, but most people in some way, some film or fashion are practicing some form of. There's an extra person in the equation at some point in your life. You may not be practicing it today, but we are all a part of this club of, oh, I did something I said with somebody who knew somebody, who got somebody. Let's have a real conversation. [00:27:47] Speaker B: Yes. [00:27:48] Speaker D: Right. [00:27:49] Speaker C: We shake everybody's past right now on, on the radio. Just shake them. Everybody got that one little skeleton gonna roll out the. [00:27:55] Speaker D: Oh, no. [00:27:56] Speaker C: Right, so are we going to be hypocrites about it? How many, how many times have pastors been caught sleeping with the congregation? Oh, wait, change this up. Commercial break. [00:28:06] Speaker D: Right. [00:28:08] Speaker C: This is real and it requires being an adult. You know, we have a thing that I refer to as being emotionally underdeveloped. We're having a grown folk conversation with people whose emotions are underdeveloped. That. No, we all know, we all, we, we're not little kids. We all know what's been going on. We all see it. Right? But then we're going to play hypocritical religious instead of being spiritual religious and say this is what it is. Now what does the scripture tell us to do in this circumstance? Right. No, this girl's going to be banned from going to church because she slept with the pastor or with the deacon and she. Or somebody who was married and now she's pregnant. So now she got the scarlet letter. Now she's a, she's a white, a husband stealer, a house rat. [00:28:54] Speaker B: Right. [00:28:59] Speaker C: If some of these house records in the scriptures didn't house wreck as you call it, there would be no Jesus because he came out of the line of these house records. Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. [00:29:14] Speaker B: Take this phone call here on Guardian Radio today. 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Of course, in the family of islands. 2423-00-5720. Our text lines today powered by BTC 422-4796. Of course, standard tax rates do apply. Calling you live here on Guardian Radio today. [00:29:36] Speaker D: Good morning, Andrew. [00:29:37] Speaker B: Good morning. How you doing? [00:29:38] Speaker D: I got a question for our friend. [00:29:41] Speaker B: Sure. [00:29:43] Speaker D: What impact does he Think the social welfare legislation that happened in America in the mid-60s had on the impact of the family, you know, in terms of how it, you know, it seems to have spilled over outside of the US and into the Caribbean also. [00:30:08] Speaker C: Well, here's the reality that those social programs. There's a senator at the time named Patrick Moynihan, M O H A Y A M A N and he did what was called The Moynihan report, U.S. senator that spoke about removing the effects of removing the black man out of the house. They created social welfare programs that said in order for black women to get more social help, they could not have a man in the house. In fact, James Earl Jones and Diana Ross, Claudine, I think it was called. They did a whole show, a movie about it. [00:30:46] Speaker D: Right. [00:30:47] Speaker C: And how the system. And then through the Peace Corps, which was another weapon of colonialism at the time, the Peace Corps went all around the world and had a program, and all the programs were always, save our girls. Save, save all girls. Save all girls. Girls got to be educated. Girls got to have rights, which are all true. Not Anthony. I'm a girl. Dad too. Got six daughters. [00:31:07] Speaker D: Right. [00:31:08] Speaker C: In this. Save our girls. Save our girls. Save all girls. No one was calculating, well, who's going to marry these girls? So there was a shift again to remove the black boys out of the equation. And the great Francis Quest Walston, Dr. Francis Quest Walton, one of our Thomas Popes, said that they understood that because the black male had the genetic material to combat what they're referring to as white genetic survival. So these programs that have spilled over, not just Bahamas, is in Liberia, is in Nigeria, is in Togo, is in Congo, is in Angola, is in Haiti. These programs were never intended to help. To help us. Were our not so distant fore parents, were they intelligent enough and scholarly enough to be able to use these programs and make it work? Yes. But then a generation of people came who didn't study those strategies and strategies and instead just interpreted it and have applied it exactly as it's been given to us. And that's what's put us in this condition. And so go ahead. [00:32:13] Speaker D: Yeah. And if we read the news as carefully as we should, we would see that these programs are ongoing. [00:32:23] Speaker C: Of course, colonialism never ended. Colonialism by another name. Slavery by another name is still slavery. [00:32:32] Speaker D: Michael and I always talk about the neocolonial framework. [00:32:40] Speaker C: People get angry. [00:32:41] Speaker D: Anyway, man, thank you for the information. [00:32:44] Speaker C: Okay, Right. [00:32:45] Speaker D: But people. [00:32:45] Speaker C: People get angry again, we're not angry at people for getting angry. [00:32:50] Speaker D: Right. [00:32:50] Speaker C: We have to Understand the condition called cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance means I see reality. But because the reality that I see, I don't like. I'm going to create a alter reality in my mind, in my mind alone. And I'm going to defend that alter reality with every waking breath because it's the thing that I prefer to see. Right? But what I like about this whole nationalism that's going on across the globe is helping people to wake up, see, we don't got to do it anymore. I just like, hey, what my president say today? Oh, look, won't he do it? You follow what I'm saying? [00:33:21] Speaker B: Yes. [00:33:22] Speaker C: You know, let them Modi in India, he making it clear. The protests happening in England, they're making it clear. What's going on in France, they're making it clear. What's going on in Morocco, they're making it clear. They're making it clear. What's going on in South Africa. The white farmers massacring black people. But it's being said that black people are killing white farmers. They're making it clear. We don't have to argue. What we have to do is organize. Yes, organize to survive and thrive, position ourselves. Those people like the gentleman who's calling in, who can see, we say join us because we're all seeing, but we're not organized. The great El Haj Malik Sabaz, who most of us know as Malcolm X, he said, we're not outnumbered. We're out organized. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Yes. I got a text here. [00:34:14] Speaker D: Go ahead. [00:34:14] Speaker B: The Book of Enoch. Someone was listening earlier. [00:34:17] Speaker C: The Book of Enoch. [00:34:18] Speaker B: Okay, let's go say the Book of Enoch clearly does not describe a globe system. It talks about the movement of the sun, not of the earth. This is what the text is saying. [00:34:28] Speaker C: Okay, which translation of the Book of Enoch? You know how many translations of the Book of Enoch there's been? Are we reading the Book of Enoch translated by melanated people of the land that Enoch came from? Or are we reading the translations done by the translators of the translators of different systems? Whenever a person translates a book, it's different copies of the Book of Enoch in my life. And each one says something encounter that's different to the other. Whenever a person translates any book, the first question should be asked. Or writes a book based off of history. What do you ascribe to? Who is funding the writing of this book? That should be the first question. Who's funding the writing of this book? Because whoever's funding the writing of this book, like with many people who do research the persons who are paying you to do the research expect your research to lean in their direction in some way, form or fashion. [00:35:23] Speaker D: Right? [00:35:24] Speaker C: Okay, so in that same way, yes. The Book of Enoch, which copy is about 16 to 17 copies of it, each by a different translator. And this is why. But we live in a day and time that. Guess what? How about we go get it and translate it ourselves? Because the software is available. See, that's what the holy cryptic Church of the Black Massage. What we do, we don't go off of just what the translators say. We read everybody's tranquil Revelation, so no one can tell us something that will catch us off guard. Right? We study to show ourselves approved. [00:35:54] Speaker B: Right? [00:35:54] Speaker C: However, once we finish reading. I got so many Bibles on this, on this shelf and in my. My trunk. So I got like, I think at least I got about 60 different Bibles, but that's a different discussion for my crazy self, right? But once you. Once we read everybody's Bible, we said, now let's go look at the language and we're going to translate ourselves, right, so that we know what it said for us, right? We got brains that work, right? We got black scholars, we got linguists, we got educated people in all fields. So the Book of Enoch in that translation says that. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Thank you. We got to call it. [00:36:28] Speaker C: But Enoch was in Babylon. The Babylonians knew that the. That the sun didn't move around the planet. Whoever translated that was trying to get you to not read outside of what they wanted you to read. [00:36:38] Speaker D: I pray that makes sense. [00:36:40] Speaker B: Okay. Yes, indeed. Let's run back to the phone lines here, because you're only here for the first hour. So. Callie, you're live here on Guardian Radio today. [00:36:47] Speaker D: Yes, sir. Good day. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Good day. How you doing? [00:36:49] Speaker D: In fact, I'd like to say, say good day to the people that are old diplomas and certificate and certificated. But this is a bad day for the poor people. You know, maybe I feel, you know, I like. [00:37:03] Speaker B: You believe people who hold a certificate ain't poor. [00:37:06] Speaker D: Pardon? No, that's all the educated ones, he. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Believe because you educated for the poor. [00:37:12] Speaker D: Folks, for the enclaves who they are uneducated ones, you see? But I like dialogue with your guess and that, you know, whether he believe in reparations. [00:37:25] Speaker C: Okay, forget what I believe. Have we been given reparations? [00:37:29] Speaker D: No, we haven't. But why ask, right? Because today in the uk, That's. That's. [00:37:33] Speaker C: That's. [00:37:34] Speaker D: That's. That's in the news today in the UK. That's right, in the UK okay. It's in America. [00:37:39] Speaker C: It's in America. Two, two years ago, Tariq Nasheed, Dr. Kabakamini, they had a whole thing and protesting Elijah Muhammad made it. We can't expect if there's a global system of racism, white supremacy that only survives by keeping black people down. Europe will die if they ever allowed Africa and the Caribbean Indian nations to be free. Are we understanding? We are asking the people who are sucking on the breast of Africa to stop sucking on Africa and Bahamas and Trinidad and Jamaica and Santa Domingo stop sucking on our nipple and die. They're not going to do that. They'll be rep. Like them. The Ukrainians will get money for what's happening there. They'll get moved to other countries to give resources. [00:38:29] Speaker D: See in the Bahamas, you know what you call it? The house slaves, the educated ones. The educated slaves, right? They says that our reparation and reparation for the field slaves should be, should be spent by the government and social programs. You see what I'm saying? Like the poor people need. The field slaves need to be, be educated like the, like the poor, like the field slaves are stupid, right? [00:39:00] Speaker C: But, but let's say this to the field slaves, all the, all the educated slaves, all the house slaves because we're all slaves in some capacity. What would our fore parents do? It's called numbers, right? Let's take a hundred educated rich people, let's take 20,000 poor people. Who has the power the 20,000? They just don't realize it. The 20,000. No, no. Garvey proved what I'm saying. Garvey didn't convert the rich 2 million people, the regular 2 million people. But because of their numbers, the math added up. Elijah Muhammad didn't convert the well educated scholar PhD worth 100 billion dollar black people. He took Malcolm X, who was a former pimp, drug runner, numbers runner. People like that cleaned them up, showed them how to do for ourselves and turned it into the great nation. And I can do that with so many black organizers. [00:40:03] Speaker D: We have to understand our problem is. You see this media, you on our problem. This media is 99%. See, we don't have alternative media in this country, in this Bahamas. They all are. We don't have like in no way. [00:40:20] Speaker C: But you do. You have social media. [00:40:27] Speaker D: At least, at least have a little alternative social media. [00:40:33] Speaker C: See we can complain about what we don't have or we can take what's available and do something with it. [00:40:38] Speaker D: You have social media, this, this, this mainstream media. We have this media media that drives. [00:40:47] Speaker C: Yeah, but, but Let me say this. Just take. What's his name? Shannon Sharp. Right. His club. Sh. Shay. [00:40:52] Speaker D: Right. [00:40:53] Speaker C: Or Cam Newton or. I forget the two gentlemen. They do basketball. There's people. Yes, you can. We've. Yes. They're not playing fair with us. Yes. It ain't right. Yes. They're not making sure we get reparations to do right. Yes. All that's true. Yes. We got some people that are puppets. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's been the same from 1914, when Marcus Garvey was fighting for blackness. There were people like WB Dubos who were speaking against him. There's always going to be that. That's not going to change. [00:41:24] Speaker D: Right. But we don't have a WD boys in the Bahamas. We don't agree. We don't have. What you call it. Not an lbc. [00:41:33] Speaker C: What you call it. [00:41:34] Speaker D: The Al there in the Bahamas. All we have in the B. [00:41:37] Speaker C: We don't have something. [00:41:38] Speaker D: We don't even have MSNBC in the bombers. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Let me say this to everyone. When we don't have something, necessity is the invention. [00:41:50] Speaker B: Amen. [00:41:50] Speaker C: So if you know what we don't have in political government, whatever you feel we don't have become that, you become it. That's the difference. That's revolutionary thinking. If you. If I don't agree with all the leaders, I'm gonna go become a leader. I'm gonna do whatever they're doing to become a leader so I can do the right thing for the people. People. Right. When Ibrahim Tors in. In. In. [00:42:13] Speaker B: In. [00:42:13] Speaker C: In Faso, huh? When he didn't agree with the former pride presidents of what they were doing, he stood up with men like him who were organized and they've turned their country in a better direction. That's all we're saying. Yes, we. Yes, all of that is happening. But what this messaging for this program today, what did our predecessors do? They didn't just sit and point fingers. They became yes. So if I don't like the leadership in Liberia, Congo, wherever I'm at, boom. Leader, lead me by example. [00:42:48] Speaker B: Yes. [00:42:48] Speaker C: Your works more than your words. And that's what all of us got to do. I hold myself to that standard every day. I can sit around and tell. Tell everybody what's not right, what's not right, and be a better person and organize. I'm not trying to overthrow nobody. I got no buns, no guns. [00:43:03] Speaker D: No, not that. [00:43:04] Speaker C: But I got sense and you got sense. Everybody listening to this program right now got sense. If you don't like the barbershop, you. [00:43:10] Speaker D: You Working in. [00:43:11] Speaker C: Go over your own barbershop. You don't like the church you go into, Open your own church. You don't like the school. Your kids are going to get them to another school. Oh, but I don't have money. Okay, go get some money. [00:43:21] Speaker B: Don't. Stop making excuses. Yes, yes. [00:43:25] Speaker C: Cut grass, paint, tap dance, strip. Hell, you stripping anyway. Just do something, try something. And I'm not saying what to be funny, but I'm saying that that's because again, if not, we just gonna keep complaining and keep complaining and they. And they. Who's they? We the day. We are the day. [00:43:42] Speaker B: Yes, yes, we're the day. [00:43:44] Speaker C: Let's stand up, do something. This is something better. [00:43:47] Speaker B: This has been too quick. [00:43:48] Speaker C: Mediums that you do have. I'm sorry. [00:43:50] Speaker B: Yes, I know. [00:43:51] Speaker C: I'm gonna come up with soapbox. Hold on. [00:43:54] Speaker B: Thank you much, so, so much. REV. Dr. A.J. vama, my brother. [00:43:58] Speaker D: Thank you. [00:43:59] Speaker C: I appreciate you. [00:44:00] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I appreciate you taking the time. Indeed. And then just before you go, just tell people where they can see you this weekend for African Holocaust Month. [00:44:09] Speaker C: Oh yes. African Holocaust Month. If you text 646-479-9465 and ask, just type the word African Holocaust Month and we will send you the link. It's a free program, it starts Saturday at 11am sharp and it ends at 2pm sharp. We were like five minutes early this week, but it's a three hour program, it's free. So you just text 646-479-9465 and put the words African or just put AHM. African Holocaust Month. AHM and somebody will send you the link. Saturday, 11am Eastern Standard Time. It ends at 2pm Eastern Standard Time, which would be 4pm GMT and we'll end at 7pm GMT and you can get your local time from those. [00:44:58] Speaker B: All right, thank you my brother. Namastu. [00:45:00] Speaker C: Oh cool. [00:45:01] Speaker D: Thank you. [00:45:01] Speaker C: Namastu. 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In next week, Guardian Radio Today will be moving into this, into that spot from 2pm until 4pm so just join me and Garth Roseborough and friends every weekday here on Guardian Radio Today, starting at 2pm beginning Tuesday of next week, right after the holiday. [00:51:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:26] Speaker B: So there's a lot going on in the country. There's a lot always going on in the country. I understand that. You know, the streets were filled. I was trying to figure out why all these barricades was being put up this morning before all the people got there. And I see that the prime minister came out and actually spoke with the protesters, et cetera. And that kind of made me, you know, think about this revolutionary spirit that, I don't know. We've kind of lost it, right? We've kind of lost it. In the first hour. We kind of touched on some of the spiritual aspects and understanding who we are as a people and conversation. But I want to add to it because there have been causes for the waning of the revolutionary spirit in this country. One of the first things that has caused us as a people to wane with regard to this revolutionary spirit is this political disillusionment. This political disillusionment, Right. Failed promises. How many times have we been promised things that have not come to light? Right. The promise of a more equitable society under this majority rule government and Independence has not been fully realized for many Bahamians. We have a caller who always talks about the house slave and the field slave. Right. This gap between revolutionary ideals and the reality of persistent social problems such as the high crime, inequality has led to deep disappointment. Many of us are disappointed in this Bahamas that we live in today. Right. Even the people who strive to make it a better place, people who go into the political mill and realize that they don't have enough within themselves personally to change the system. Right. It's a systemic problem. Right. We have stagnant politics. All right. Plp F M. It's a two party system. All right. Of course, you know, the COI is, is hot on the trail and we'll see how they do in, in, in in this upcoming election. Of course, you know, the DNA was a party that, that seemed like they would do something, but again, there's nothing, nothing's come out of that wish for a third party to, to dominate in the political landscape. [00:54:01] Speaker C: Right. [00:54:02] Speaker B: These two dominant parties, the Progressive Liberal Party, the Free National Movement, are often perceived as stagnant and they exercise. A stagnant exercise in gimmetry. A stagnant exercise in gimmetry. Both parties of alternated power since independence with little significant change for ordinary citizens. And this is why we have voter cynicism. Again. We're trying to figure out where did this revolutionary spirit go. We was fighting for some things that really manifested as Vaughan P. Miller would say, we gotta make the wealth common in the Commonwealth. Right. Do we trust our leaders, whether politically or socially? You know, there's widespread public perception of government corruption and a lack of transparency. Right. That just. Which is further eroded public trust in the political leaders. Right. We're always questioning, we always asking why we always call in the radio stations. But can we actually do a deep dive into what's really going on? How do we really do the research? We had our guest, Dr. Tinker on yesterday and he said even though we have a Freedom of Information act, even if they release what you asking for, they can redact. In other words, they could take a black marker and they could cover up all of the words that they don't want you to see and still give you the document like that, so you still can't really read it. Right. This is the system that we are, that we're talking about. I'm talking about personalities. This is the system that we are. Are talking about. This lack of campaign finance regulation. It leaves avenues for powerful interest to influence politics. Right. Public procurement. Right. All of these things have Been susceptible to coruscantary spirits. We saw some of that downtown today, right? We saw the unions shoot kind of a. They say that's a shot over the bow. They didn't bring everybody from you know, the family islands, but just, just, just to let the prime minister and, and et al understand hey this, this thing could, could get worse, you understand? Because you are playing with our money, you're playing with us, you understand? But we got to imagine a Bahamas that is capable of bringing forth the dreams of the people who fought for this majority ruled Bahamas, you know was when they fought for what they were fighting for. Is this the Bahamas that they saw? I highly doubt it. I highly doubt it. You know, we're heavily dependent on tourism but ask yourselves this, right? And we're gonna have a show on this coming up soon, right? But imagine if the industry only to serve the tourist product. So you have these mammoth hotels. We decided we wanted to build these huge hotels. Atlantis Bahama. But all of these rooms, they need beds, they need furniture, right? They need appliances. Like even if we just made the appliances, even if we just made the furniture that went into these rooms, right? I know we do some making of mattresses. I don't know how many of them get into the hotel rooms but we are making mattresses. But our economy, our economy just seems to be non existent. You know we are very much a consumer oriented people, right? We buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. We don't make. And then, and then of course the unemployment increases because there's only so many jobs that can go around off of this model we have for an economy. And so this is why we started the first hour imagining live when we were successful as a people, when we did for self. Let's run to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio today. 323-623-2325-431632-54259 in the family of violence. 2423-00-5720. Of course, the tax line is powered by BTC 422-4796. We're streaming live on guardiantalkradio.com as well as we are on Cable Bahamas 969 and BTC Flow Channel 612. Let's run to the phone lines here on Guardian radio today. Call you live here on Guardian radio today. [00:59:02] Speaker D: Uncle. [00:59:03] Speaker B: How you doing my brother? [00:59:04] Speaker D: Good afternoon sir. [00:59:05] Speaker B: Yes, thanks for calling. [00:59:07] Speaker D: Good conversation you had a little while ago. [00:59:10] Speaker B: Yes, thank you. [00:59:13] Speaker D: You know when I look at, I always try to find out how much earning that the union Leaders there make a month that never been disclosed that even their members don't even know. And I understand why they have to be fighting so hard. They don't care what they gotta fight for, what they gotta do if they don't, if they honest with their members and stuff like that. Why the members them never know how much these money these, you, these leaders them is taking home and suffering that it would be a surprise to know that the money they are making and stuff like that. Now I see now where the union them is fighting for women that have. When you have sick leave, maternity leave, they want it now 20 weeks, they drop it down to 16 weeks. I mean that's like four, four months. You off from a job? [01:00:28] Speaker B: Yeah, but you know they just, they had a baby. They ain't just home. They had a baby. You have any children? [01:00:36] Speaker D: Yeah, but I understand that, but. All right, if you was working with 12. If he was working with 12, okay, yes. Just, just take it to 14. And every time, well you carry up and stuff like that. And not only that, so you. They want the husband of these women who they have trained for to have all time off too. And we know, we live. [01:01:00] Speaker B: Paternity leave is in. I got paternity leave when I had, when I had children and I needed, I needed to be able to. My wife, she just either had a C section or she just pushed a baby out what she could do. I gotta run around. I gotta be able to do things in order to. Lord help you if you have complications with the child. [01:01:21] Speaker D: Okay, so. So if you're working for somebody else. So that means another company is supposed to pay you to stem with your wife then. [01:01:30] Speaker B: No, because the same government who asking women to have children need to figure out how when they have the children they are going to actually deal with the children. Children just seen something that you have so you could tax. They asking the women to have more children and they don't want the men to leave the women. So if the men are going to assist the women, they need time to do job. [01:01:53] Speaker D: Should be paid to a government to pick up that tab then. [01:01:57] Speaker B: Well, the same tab that, that. All right, let me say it this way. The same child that's going to eventually put money into the nib, right into the, into the, into the system. [01:02:10] Speaker C: Right. [01:02:10] Speaker B: Should be looked at so they could grow up to be able to be taxed. So it's not a one way street, right? That same. The same. Because obviously in any business you have to prepare for. If you have female employees, you have to Prepare for them having children. [01:02:31] Speaker D: Okay, my last point is mentally disturbed. [01:02:35] Speaker B: Okay. [01:02:35] Speaker D: I mean, many of the stuff that's a broad. That's a broad thing because many of the stirrups should be in the contract now that if something you going through, you can't take it well, you. That. That is a part of your sick days. You should just. Well, your boss will give you time off, you still get paid, stuff like that. But then again, they say I mentioned the story too. I need some money now. Okay. I need some money. I try to figure. So we saying man of the story, man, we will be inside a problem that we are creating, a problem that we better be careful what we are doing. Thank you, sir. [01:03:15] Speaker B: Thank you for your call. You know, I guess the first thing you mentioned is how much these union leaders are making. That's something for their members to agitate for. Right. I can't get that. I ain't a part of the union. Right. They gotta agitate for that. So, you know, that's. That's. It is what it is. As far as maternity leave and all the other aspects of what these are. These are things obviously that the members are agitating for and the leaders are doing their job as far as I understand it. All right, let's run back to the phone lines and then we'll take. Take some text calling. You live on Guardian Radio today. [01:03:56] Speaker D: Cool. [01:03:57] Speaker B: Good day. How you doing? [01:03:58] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm okay. Great conversation you had earlier. I was, you know, listening in. You and the gentleman, very good show. But I'm not calling you to understand is that this call out talked about union leaders and their. What they're doing the government. But paternity and maternity, they be a way behind the rest of the world in that regard. You know, we must be about 50 years behind. So we're just catching up. And in terms of Belinda, Belinda Wilson, I call her the goat. She is the greatest of all time when it comes to union presidency and trade union matters. Now you got to give Belinda her credit and she is consistent. She go after both government. But you can't say she is part of the time. [01:04:44] Speaker B: Right. [01:04:44] Speaker D: You know, but you would you ask a question about. About our forefathers and how would they would think if they were to come back? [01:04:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:51] Speaker D: And look at the Bahamas. [01:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:53] Speaker D: You know, they would be appalled. You know, it would be appalled. You know, because the thing called bohemianization is basically over. [01:05:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:02] Speaker D: And those of us who know about Bahamianization, we're becoming too old to fight for it. So God help us with the younger People who were born in the 90s who have no idea about Gombe Summer and all of those other things, Gombe Village, et cetera. So God help us. But what do you think about that? Our latest, that latest appointment? Now, what I can describe is now Ambassador Hershel Walker. What do you think about that? Do you think the Bahamas can benefit big time from that? [01:05:30] Speaker B: I think we need to figure out how we can best utilize this arrangement. You know, I, I don't. Herschel Walker has his own views on a lot of different things that I don't agree with. Right. I've, I've watched him, I loved him as a football player, and that's, that's kind of where my love for him stops, you understand? Because I've heard him speak on some things that I just, I just don't agree with. Right. I don't know him as a person, what I would be interested in. He claims to want to come here and I guess bring some more influence of America into this space. I don't know how much more influence they could have, but it seems as if he's ponying up to figure out how to lessen the influence of China in our. How, you know, he plans to do that. I do know that with the proliferation of guns, they got more guns in America than people, you know, and if he could help us to stop those guns from coming into this country, I'd be grateful to him for that. You understand? Yeah. [01:06:48] Speaker D: He needed to help us, you know, because our government isn't listening to us. You know, they're talking about, we don't have an immigration crisis, and we know we do because a lot of these immigrants end up into the U.S. i hope Donald Trump can come down on countries like the Bahamas like a ton of books and cause them to address this vexing problem, because it's only hurting our citizens. [01:07:12] Speaker B: You know, we die. [01:07:14] Speaker D: You know, we pay these, we pay these politicians big money. We give them the best when it comes to health, and they have all the work and all the traffic trappings to go along with these prestigious jobs that they're holding. But then look at how they treat us. Look at what they give us, you know, in terms of our hospital. [01:07:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:34] Speaker D: You know, the ambulance. And then what I, what I don't understand. And who, when you, when there's an emergency, the ambulance fly in with their sirens to get you. When they pick you up, where you end up right in the corner in the ne. And one journey, you don't even get to see doctor. So I don't Know what's all that hull of blue with them? You will think they're siren. But I hope that when President Trump through the new ambassador put pressure on countries like the Bahamas and you see the US shouldn't be seen, you know, to be duplicitous, befriending countries like the Bahamas who seems to have an open door policy when it comes to immigration. And you know Trump don't support open door, open borders. No, he doesn't support it. So I don't know why they would want to keep friends with countries like the Bahamas who soon to be like they support these things because there's no such thing as the Bahamas. Bang for Bahamians first and everyone else can follow suit. You know, it seems like we always laugh. Look at what is happening out there now in the public service. You know, I believe Pierre Global is doing a good job as a member of parliament. But we have too much unrest, too much unrest within the country and I don't know why the government successive government ankle. You give them a mandate, they come in, they say what they're going to do and when they get in do something totally different. And they see what happens to government when they don't listen to the people. So I don't know, I don't know what's going on in that parliament but it could be so cohesive if government, if they could only be deceived there to be working for Bahamian. [01:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah. What do you think about this MOU that was struck October 6th between the Republic of the Philippines and the Bahamas? This labor cooperation is established a framework to promote safe, orderly and fair labor mobility between the two nations and strengthens protections for Filipino migrant workers in the Bahamas. Would you, Ivy, would you be able. [01:09:44] Speaker D: To normally take these groups? You know, but I'm going to do my part, you know because I will be reaching out and I'm going to try to see how best to our advocacy to get this government to pay attention to what's going on with us. Because there's no way, man, I have relatives who would have visited that hospital. And I always say on public radio I don't have no big time medical insurance. [01:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:11] Speaker D: And if something would have happened to me, I could be one of those persons that I look at over on those gurney in PMH and this is bad. It shouldn't be happening, man. Our population is too small. [01:10:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [01:10:22] Speaker D: Too small for these type of legacy issues that successful government seem to turn a blind eye to. [01:10:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:29] Speaker D: And go up by pmh. [01:10:30] Speaker B: Wow. [01:10:31] Speaker D: You'll have a terrible day and it's just disturbing. And these politicians don't seem to care. But we'll see what happens going forward, you know, but we need to do much better as a country and as a people. [01:10:42] Speaker B: Thank you, man. I appreciate the call. He's very right. I mean, I worked around PMH and I've seen exactly what he's talking about. This text that says teachers know exactly what their president makes. It is all in the contract we agreed to and clear as day. See, I tell you, that's why I don't get in people business. The people know what they need to know. So that's why I'm getting in that. So I'd call who was concerned about how much the union leaders make. I guess you got to go join the UN Union. All right, let's jump back to the, to the phone lines. Kermie, I think we got some phone, some phone calls. Call you live on Guardian Radio today. [01:11:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:25] Speaker D: You know, you know, each time, you know, each time, each time we, each time we talk about this label thing, right. One thing sticks in my mind. Label. If you're on the job, right. You are actually producing enough to pay for yourself and for your company, right? Ideally, yeah. But we have a government service in particular where each year our government has to borrow money to pay for salaries and other things. [01:12:02] Speaker B: Yep. [01:12:02] Speaker C: Okay. [01:12:03] Speaker D: Yeah, they, they. [01:12:04] Speaker B: And debt. [01:12:05] Speaker D: They borrow money each year. You know, we have to get this labor thing sorted out in terms of. We gotta, we have to become producers and not just consumers, you know. You know, and that, and that is, I think it's a baseline, you know, anyway. [01:12:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:27] Speaker D: Yes, sir. [01:12:27] Speaker B: Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Yeah. I mean, ultimately, if you go back to the goals of Sir Randall Fox and what he aimed for in labor, you know, we could begin to understand we've made some strides. We've made a lot of strides. You know, we've established the trade unions. Now the decent wages and the working conditions, that's another story. We don't know. In some instances, maybe, but not in most. Right. We've created Labor Day. Right. They continue to fight against injustice. Right. Political empowerment. Well, you know, they're out there today with using their voices for the workers rights. So the spirit of surrounding is still, still with us. But we gotta keep fighting. Let's, let's, let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio today. Callie alive. [01:13:24] Speaker D: Didangu. [01:13:25] Speaker B: Yes, my brother 52. How you doing? [01:13:26] Speaker D: I give thanks, you know, Cleve, but I wanted you because the next time you tell AJ W he can't just come on for an hour no more. [01:13:34] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. He was planning. He was planning on staying for two hours, but he had something that came up because I want. I wanted you to call in and talk. [01:13:42] Speaker D: Yeah, but what happened? I said to make a doc and diamonds. I reached back too late. But I wanted to know which Book of Enoch that that text was actually reading. And the fact that the prophecy and the religious powers that be, they really thought that the Book of Enoch had disappeared little later. Ethiopia had preserved this book, right? Yeah. And the unadulterated text, they had preserved that book. Also the book of Jubilees and many others that were not canonized. You know why they were not canonized? They didn't want you to read Tabernacle. Like I said, it's like you go into court and you have 88 books, but you only giving me 68 books of evidence. But guilty. They're guilty of obscuring, hiding. It was not hidden. You know, it was really forbidden and suppressed. You know what I mean? But I wanted to get on to really what she was talking about and to mention something that the doctor was talking about when he. I like how he said he was not talking about a violent revolution, but of course, the revolution of the mind, which is the. One of the hardest revolutions given the level of, you know, ignorance. And I don't know if it's willful ignorance, but I'll be fighting ignorance. Yeah, we fighting ignorance because sometimes people. But sometimes people don't want to unlearn what they've learned. But that's the most frightening pot. [01:14:50] Speaker B: But see, that's the beautiful thing. That's the beautiful thing that was happening in the world today. They ain't got to learn it, but they're coming. [01:14:56] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. Revelation time. But schoolmate there to call whoever some of the house slave and the field slave, etc. Etc. Yeah, he said. But he said that we don't have a William E. Du Bois here. We. We have many William E. Du Bois still, because we're always pitting a black man against another black man. You understand what I'm saying? [01:15:12] Speaker B: Yes. [01:15:12] Speaker D: So is the moral of the story as it relates to the new Herschel Walker, et cetera, et cetera, and our geopolitical position. What I look at is, you know, we are torn between two lovers. So I just have a little joke here. We have a confluence, the dragon and the eagle. Right? Right. [01:15:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:32] Speaker D: So, you know, it's up to our government to be prudent and act on our behalf. But for me we just political pawns. It's all about the rich resources and it's the superpowers, the strong oppressing by the weak. This is biblical. This has nothing to do with the third world leaders who are powerless. Who rich in. You know, uncle, I don't know if I've ever sent you the. The documentary of the Iron Mountain report. Have you read the literature? And what I was trying to show people them like your military might determine your sovereignty. So something that you and Dr. A.J. warmer was talking about in the prior show. Rich and I wanted to juxtapose that with the. During the pandemic. Remember during the pandemic in which third world countries were more or less being ostracized or forced to give up their sovereign assets like ports and hospitals and different money making things to the Pfizer and the company and the big Pharma company. You didn't remember that? [01:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I heard. [01:16:28] Speaker D: You never saw that. [01:16:28] Speaker B: Uncle, I heard about some of it. [01:16:30] Speaker D: But this was actually news. That's what I'm saying. So that should have frightened them to give you an idea that you all are on the right path. But really one of these days we really get into the book of Enoch and these hidden books that were forbidden. Yeah, good written. Give thanks. [01:16:43] Speaker B: Yes, my brother. Yes indeed. 52. Yeah, I, I thought about you. And he said he only could be on for an hour today and so we can get him back and have him hanging here for, for at least two hours. Let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio today. Call it your life. All right, next caller, call your life. Call it going once. All right. 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Of course in the family of violence. 2423-00-5720. The revolutionary spirit in this country, where. Where has it gone? [01:17:29] Speaker C: Right? [01:17:30] Speaker B: Why is it dissipated? I think we all have our opinions on it. But what say you? We got it. We got another live here on Guardian Radio today. [01:17:39] Speaker D: Hey bro, what's up? [01:17:41] Speaker B: What's up my brother? [01:17:42] Speaker D: All as well. Listen, you know, sometimes when, you know I, I like to call your talk show in particular but today I need to straight note from your. When we, or when lots of people in this country say we have an immigration problem. Help me to understand what your concept or your perception of an immigration problem or immigration crisis. Help me and then I can tell you why I say all of that to say that. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Well some of the things some of the things that I've heard is a burden on like let's say our public systems, the hospitals, the schools, right? The, the idea that you, you would have perceived illegal immigrants because you can always tell if prison is illegal, right? But you have people in your country who can't even speak English running businesses when Bahamians supposed to be the holders of business licenses when it comes to retail and wholesale businesses. But you walk into these stores and it ain't just Haitians, right? You see a lot of Indians, you see different nationalities that run in stores, right? On your main thoroughfare on Bay street, you could just walk. And you don't see bohemians or seemingly, seemingly, see Bahamians are owning stores. Yeah, right. Because you don't know. You don't know. Right? And of course, the problem with, with the shanty towns, et cetera, right? Which when they go into the shanty towns, they find out that not everybody in there or most people in there are not illegal. [01:19:24] Speaker D: Ah, now we're getting somewhere, right? [01:19:25] Speaker B: So a lot of it is perception by some people. But I feel for the people who say, man, I gotta rush to register my child to get them into school. Because I find in that a lot of the students that are in that school are not even behemoth. Whether they here legally or not, it's a burden. Or we have to figure out how we're going to house the legal immigrants here along with our Bahamian children, you understand? Same thing with it in the hospital. We got to figure out how we're going to care for whether you legal or illegal. The fact is the infrastructure is not serving us well. And so those are some of the things I've been hearing about. [01:20:11] Speaker D: But what say you let someone. I'm not talking about even me as a caller, Let someone come on your talk show from the Department of Statistics and they. I talk about someone who's not going to be biased even if you support the government or you don't support. I'm talking about someone who's going to be neutral. Listen to me, sir. [01:20:36] Speaker B: Factual. [01:20:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:20:38] Speaker D: In this country, we have so many. I can use my brothers and sisters down in the south, with the greatest respect to them Haitians who born here. [01:20:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:50] Speaker D: And listen to me, brother, listen. We have more legal. Yes, we have illegal, you know, immigrants here. But I, I want a lot of. [01:21:03] Speaker B: Behemoths to understand. [01:21:06] Speaker D: When you see these persons and you look at them, right, maybe they might not look the way that we might look, right? But they are Bahamians, they born here, they've been here like 20 and 25, 30 years, 40 years paying nib, doing everything, you know, and that's the problem right now. And then I want to clarify something else again of your callers. A few months ago you had President Donald Trump wanted to ask Caribbean countries when they were doing that, mass deportations of illegal immigrants to accept people. You could remember that? [01:21:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember that. [01:21:47] Speaker D: Okay. What did the Bahamas do? [01:21:49] Speaker B: I think we denied it. Eh? [01:21:51] Speaker D: Okay. [01:21:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:21:52] Speaker D: Okay. But still one of your callers called and say that the government ain't standing up or you know, in some sense like that. Because listen to me, I could be. [01:22:04] Speaker C: Real with you, brother. [01:22:06] Speaker D: Whether you agree or disagree with me as a hang up. You got more people in this country who is called Haitian Bahamian. [01:22:11] Speaker C: My brother. [01:22:12] Speaker D: I ain't calling nobody no Haitian Bahamian from you been here over 18. I call you Bahamian. I don't believe in that thing. No Haitian Bahamian. All right. Because if someone born in the States and they live in the Bahamas, so you behave an American a. Have a good day, bro. [01:22:30] Speaker B: Thank you for the call. You know, we're going to run to a break, but what I want to talk about when we come back from the break is the idea that in one breath we're saying that Bahamian women are not having enough children, whereby we Bahamian families are not growing at the rate that we want them to grow. And so what's going to happen if we don't have some type of immigration policy that allows for people to come in here? What's, what, what, what, what, what, what? What are we thinking? Are we going to start having more children? Are we going to be bringing people into the country? That's, that's, that's kind of where we at right now. But let's keep it locked here. I want you to keep it locked here on 96.9 Guardian Radio. Guardian radio today. We back right after this. [01:23:36] Speaker C: Everything is bigger and better at Burger King Nassau. In the you have a big appetite. BK has a royal deal for you. 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All right, this is by Kyle or Kyle Campbell of a Tribune staff reporter. I'll just read a little bit here. Says Bohemians have been told to have. Bohemians have been told to have more children. The country's low birth rate threatens the long term survival of the National Insurance board, says Miles LaRoto, the Ministry of Social Services, Information and Broadcasting, who warns that too few workers are contributing to sustain future pensioners. We have a declining birth rate, Mr. Laroda said yesterday, if you take immigration out of it, the Bahamas is far below. I think we're talking about 2 plus percent growth. We are at 1.7. So this is the dilemma we are dealing with. All right? Behemoths ain't having children like they used to. All right, so what was the plan? Let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio today. Call you live. [01:27:51] Speaker D: Excellent, excellent show, uncle. Boy, I tell you, I really enjoy listening to you and your guest. [01:27:56] Speaker B: Thank you, man, thank you. [01:27:57] Speaker D: You do a very, very good job at it, man. You know, I really admire how he pointed out the fact that the colonialists tell you point blank, look, Africa, we know you've been blessed with all of the minerals and all the resources, but we need it. [01:28:14] Speaker B: Understand? [01:28:15] Speaker D: Here's the deal. It's yours, but we need it. [01:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah, we need it. [01:28:18] Speaker D: It's amazing. And on top of that, if you're not interested in letting us have access to it, we can get rid of you. [01:28:24] Speaker B: Yeah. They have what's called manifest destiny. You know, God tell us we could come in here and take this. [01:28:30] Speaker D: Yeah, well, God also told me that I'm his chosen people and I can kill everybody around me. And there's no problem with that. I don't know, where does God come from telling these people these things, my lord? But, but Laroda is on to something that I think we need to really look closely at. I'll tell you a little secret. You know, most of the foods that we buy in the food store, packaged foods, processed foods, not good for us. [01:28:52] Speaker B: That's correct. [01:28:52] Speaker D: But I find that the people who come here, they are farming and they are eating purely from the land that has not been poisoned by bombs, weaponry. But we are not buying from them because we trying to avoid that. But we prefer to get the letters in the store that taste like plastic. But when you look at these people who are on the side of the street, they are growing right in front of you and selling it to you, which you could have grown yourself because you're too lazy. Well, listen, so obviously the children of these undocumented individuals are going to be more healthier. Follow this. [01:29:32] Speaker B: I'm with you. [01:29:33] Speaker D: And this is the dilemma that we are facing that we're not being aware of because we got to buy packaged food. We have to buy $5 way to cancer from the fast food place. You don't hardly see them doing that. They boiling their food and they're having strong bones, strong sound minds. The only problem they have is that little bit of Money that they could have had if the country was in a better position. But they're deprived and they realize where they are and they working their way out. We got the edge and they ain't pushing forward. What's wrong with this? [01:30:06] Speaker B: Well, we are very much influenced, influenced by the West. So we, we always try to keep up the norms of the west or what we perceive the norms of the. [01:30:16] Speaker D: West and then we feel to be right. Yeah, but you could clearly the current president right now is letting you know point blank I don't want nothing to do with your ethnicity. I want to promote my white supremacy. [01:30:29] Speaker B: That's right. [01:30:29] Speaker D: The same history that been going on. [01:30:31] Speaker B: From time very Planners day. [01:30:33] Speaker D: Okay. Thanks man. [01:30:34] Speaker B: Yeah, my brother. 323-623-2325-431632-54259 in the family of islands. 2423-00-5720 our text line powered by BTC is 422-4796. Let's run back to the phone lines. Call. Are you live on Guardian Radio today? [01:30:54] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm just going to be very brief. I find it very disturbing that everybody's talking about a problem and they don't know. They don't have the figures. How can you solve or run a country when you don't know if you're having a party and you don't know how many people, how are you going to provide? So there's something that disturbs me. We don't know how many people are in this country. [01:31:25] Speaker B: Mm, Okay. I didn't cut you there. Something happened. [01:31:30] Speaker C: Call. [01:31:30] Speaker B: Call back caller. Call back caller. Because I listen, your cry has been my cry now for a very long time. The ability to actually analyze data in this country has been difficult. And I'm not, you know, saying that there aren't people who aren't trying to put some things in place. But it's difficult to have a real conversation when you know the data is not there. You know. So like the caller is saying, how can we have a realistic conversation without real numbers? You understand? In 2024, all right, the imports, all right, food and live animals represented 16.5 of imports with the value of $815.5 million. Okay, this is what we're importing in food. I ain't talking about machinery and mineral fuels and manufactured goods. I, I touched that yet I just talking about food because the previous caller talked about growing food. [01:32:39] Speaker C: Right? [01:32:39] Speaker B: And the fact that we are so hemmed up on eating what we see on tv, you understand? And I get it. You know, we. I have my. My fast food from time to time. Right. But when you make that a staple in your trouble, understand, as I hope this is our caller who got cut off unintentionally. Go ahead, caller. [01:33:06] Speaker E: Yeah, so the thing I would ask if. If somebody could give some real statistics, and it's very. It's something to think about. Haiti is a country with 13 million people. Can the Bahamas sustain 5 million or 6 million people? So it has nothing to do with anything. It has to do with how we are organized in our country. Canada has a quota, okay? And countries have quotas. Switzerland, those countries have a quota. The Bahamas should have a quota of how many people can come in, be naturalized, and so on, so that we are not endangered. And until we have picked up and given every child a proper education and a job, I don't think we should be talking about anything else besides what we have, what we owe our people. [01:34:00] Speaker B: No, you make a valid point. All I'm finding when I do any research are estimates. All I'm finding are estimates, right? There are estimates from the International Organization for Migration and others are living in the Bahamas is anywhere from 30,000 to 80,000. And a Haitian diplomat claimed in 2022 that there were 150,000. Right? So that's a huge disparity. Anywhere from 30,000 to 150,000 Haitians living in the Bahamas. Right. Let me. Let me look at other nationalities, right? Because it's not only the Haitians, Right. Oftentimes Haitians are looked down upon because of their economic state. Right. In terms of. Has been done. Because he. Because of what Haiti represents. Haiti represents freedom for black people. All right, let's just have a real conversation. Haiti, Haiti, the revolution and. And overthrowing racism, white supremacy. Haitians started that in this part of the world, and that's why they get beat for it. You understand? And so the economic. Not that there aren't rich Haitians, don't get me wrong, there are many rich Haitians and morally more rich Asians than rich Bahamians. But the ones that are seeking economic and social asylum, they towed a huge brunt of the backlash that they didn't necessarily cause. Let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio today. Call you live. [01:35:48] Speaker D: Hey, good afternoon, uncle. [01:35:50] Speaker B: Good afternoon. How you doing? [01:35:51] Speaker D: Yeah. And go. I'll ask you a question. If you, you know, this is saying. I said goes like if. If you can't help yourself, right. I think that's how it go. Or. Or you're supposed to help yourself before you help people, right? [01:36:08] Speaker B: Well, I know when you go on the plane I can bring that up too, right? [01:36:14] Speaker D: That's correct. What type of, what type of what, what, what are we demonstrating or saying to the behemoth? That it's okay for us to ensure that people are safe and secured and covered and protected and have everything they need, but when it comes to you, we can think about that. I mean, and, and, and, and we are behem pretending that that ain't what, what's happening. You know, we have to be. There's nothing wrong with taking care. The Bahamas, I believe was taking care of the Caribbean for quite some time simply because our dollar value, you know, just the only reason, you know, because if our dollar value was say like one of those Caribbean nations or where these people coming from, you think they would have been coming out? No, they were thinking, been coming here. But, but, but because of that fact, right? It's the main reason why they come in here and be the main reason why we put a control on situations. Because there's a lot of money that is being made in this country and it is swiftly being taken out of this country. Now what are we. Where some of this money had to remain on the ground so it could cycle for Iran, for the, for the natives would have to remain here. [01:37:40] Speaker B: But this is, this is the, this is the big question that people are having, right? For example, you talk about, not you, but they talk about the tourist numbers rising and you always hitting these records numbers of tourists, but that money is not trickling down to the average Bahamian. [01:37:58] Speaker C: Right. [01:37:58] Speaker B: We're not, we're not seeing economically the effects for the most part of the tourists coming in, but that's our main industry. You see what I'm saying? And so what a lot of us are frustrated with, like the last caller, is that we are in the dark about so many things in this country. The need for transparency that we are faced with in this country because it's very difficult to get real data about the circumstances in this country to the point where we have to go and make stuff up to get people to respond to some made up situation, to try to get truth out of a matter. Right? I'm not saying that's what you should do, but we got it. We, we got to figure out how we're going to get actual data and actually understand what's going so we can actually assess, analyze and actually respond to what is going on. This is where the frustration is for many people and this is why we take it out on each other. And the crime rate goes up and the social issues continue to pervade in the country. And so that's my time, people. I thank you all for listening. See you next week on Guardian Radio Today. Thank our guests in the first hour. REV. Dr. A.J. varma. Thank you, the callers, the texters, and of course, you, the listeners here on 96.9 Guardian Radio. Fresh news. Smart talk all day. My name is Dr. Cleveland W. Eneas III, also known as Calhoun Ankusara. I leave you today by saying namaste. I bow to the divinity in you. Take care. [01:39:44] Speaker C: SA.