Guardian Radio Today - September 1 2025

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent. [00:00:05] Speaker B: Interactive and engaging conversations. [00:00:08] Speaker C: 96.9 FM. The views and opinions of the hosts. [00:00:14] Speaker A: And guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the management and staff of Guardian Radio. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. This is your show today, Guardian radio today on 96.9 FM. My name is Garth Maynard Roseborough. For those of you who are tuning in for the first time to this particular program and today we should have had an appearance from the office of the Prime Minister. And I just got a note that they want to reschedule for the next time that I sit here in this space, if that's even possible. We'll find out by the end of the show and give you some advisement as to their coming on this particular program. This is Guardian Radio Today. I listened to the conversations that you had with Erin Green and with CA Nury and of course, you know, you all started your day with morning blend with Mr. Dwight Strong. As for me, returning back to our shores, I had a very, I would say intimate session on Sunday which was yesterday on my show Remark, which actually comes on every Sunday from 5 to 6:30. And we spoke a bit about religion in politics, religion in politics and how religion basically shapes our political landscape until the politicians take over. And then of course, religion takes a back seat. While I woke up this morning, I spoke to a very dear friend and there's so many things that are happening in our country. Everyone has their theories, everyone has their philosophies, everyone has their understandings. And I tend to listen to my friends and what they have to say and I dissect and I do not have to be correct on every situation. I do not. There are many times that I sit and I listen, I simply absorb and then I assess and I analyze and if necessary I can regurgitate or I may put another twist on what's being said. And that twist may happen because the twist seems more probable to me or the twist may occur because I want to challenge you, the listener, to dig deep into your mind and bring out what you know to be more probable. I hope that makes sense to you because I am not the one and only AI or know it all. I'm simply here to fill in in this space for this time that you, the listener, may have a voice in your country for your interest and for the future of your children. And so Guardian Radio today I saw some of the headlines in the newspaper, of course you, your Tribune, and I like to remind people of how formidable The Tribune is. It's been around since 1844. Now, many of us, we go into business and we cannot last even two to three years because the first three years are extremely difficult. This newspaper has been around from 1844. So for those years, as you count them, you would now recognize that they must have been doing something right. And they're still existing. But the real truth today is that they can only exist with your health. And so for those of you who have businesses that you want to survive past the three years, you can now make the investment by calling 302-2300 and you can place your marketing ad with Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Because the people listen to Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Not only will you do that, you'll understand that as we get deeper into the political season, that more and more people will be listening to Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. And so I would say to you, and my encouragement to you would be to be a part of the Guardian family at this particular time while the rates are affordable. I'm almost certain that those rates may increase as, of course, the electoral season becomes more and more intense. I sat in this space and I've listened to you and many of you have tried to invite me or entice me into a political conversation. And that is extremely exciting. Oh, I love politics. I love breaking down politics. And people say, oh, you must be a plp. Oh, you must be an F and M. Oh, you must be a third party representative. And I constantly have to remind you that my name is Garth Maynard Rosebarrow. I am that I am. I don't belong to a particular faith name. I do not belong to a particular sect or society. I am Garth Maynard Rose Barrow. Each day that I awake for those people today who are having challenges in their life, let me give you a secret. Every day that I wake up, I first of all give thanks. I don't care what life is going to throw at me today, I, first of all start with a positive note of giving thanks. It could always, always, always be worse. Always. There's a million ways for your body to shut down and delete you from existence. The mere fact that you are here today must mean that even if you are not aware as to what your purpose must be for today, there's something within you that says you are important. You don't have to be wealthy, you don't have to be middle class. You could be poor. But I tell you this much, the fact that you are here today, you have a Purpose. And if you are poor, I want you to understand a principle that poverty is only a state of mind. If you remove the state of mind, you can enter into a middle class way of thinking or you could enter into a wealthy way of thinking. I have learned that the secret to wealth, and people may challenge me on this and I'll tell you how wealthy I am. The secret to wealth is in appreciating who you are. Period. Period. Whether Will Smith or Jada Pinkett or whoever, Beyonce or Jay Z eats a steak today, you can eat a steak today if you so desire. If you plan for it, you can ride in whatever color. Riding. If you got to lease it, rent it, buy it, you can experience that if you want. You can travel around the world if you took the time to study. How do I travel around the world? Do you know that there are so many countries around the world that you can live on less than $800 a month? And all you have to do is have some residual income. Maybe you have a rental apartment unit, you have an Airbnb and all you need to do is jet set and start your voyage to the places that you plan to live for less than $800 a month. And you live like a king or a queen. That's possible because in this world, as long as you can appreciate that you have the ability to think, the ability to move, then nothing in this world becomes impossible. The stories of Bill Gates tells you that you don't have to finish university to be wealthy. You just have to think wealthy. You look at all of these super pastors in the clergy around the world. These people you watch on TV and tvn, they all had humble beginnings and then they become superstars. You look at the Steve Harvey stories and you look at. I think the Tyler Perry story was similar, where you are homeless and you live in your car. And today look at yourself. Now only you can take yourself from where you are and place yourself to a higher existence. In my conversation, I spoke to my friend and he said to me, do you think the Bahamian people are suffering? Suffering? As Darvin Russell makes his way to the show today, I will share this with you. What is. I just called his name and he shows up. My Lord, I must be an honest man. I will share this with you. I want you to study the average bohemian, just average. And you can fight me if you want. You can call in the show and say, garth, you're wrong. Listen, I could take a cuthip. If anyone in this world knows how to take a cut hip, I Guarantee you I am that Negro on the plantation who could take a good cut hip and go to work tomorrow. Because I love to work. I just love to work. Work has nothing to do to cut up for me. I have what they call a work ethic. And that's something I try to employ Bahamian people to adopt. No one needs to force you to do. You do because you can and because you appreciate the productivity of what you do. And so let me say this to you. The average bohemian may say to you, child, I broke. I ain't got it. They want to borrow something from you, but once a year at least, they're on a plane going to Florida. Whether that's back to school, like many people have now done, or that's vacation at beginning of June, or that's Christmas shopping in the time of December. All of a sudden a miracle occurs and these people got money. Watch when they reach the airport, watch the type of English that they speak once they approach the ticket counter. They're not talking the dialect that we are so fond of as a culture. We speak the Queen's English because we want to ensure you understand that we know exactly where we're going and we know exactly what to do when we get to the Border Patrol. We have to ensure, once again the communication is clear, that we're going to Fort Lauderdale. And we're going to be staying on a particular street, Second Avenue, at 3130. That's the address, and we'll be there for seven days. We know exactly how to drive the rental car. Once we get there on the right hand side, ain't nobody swerving around. Nobody's being indecent and disrespectful, as if to say, I'm not going to let you in or let you out. No one is throwing garbage out of their windows all over the highways of America. You know how to act accordingly. You shop until you drop, and then you return home to the Bahamas and you get 10 bags. So for bag number four, five, six, seven, eight and nine, that's a hundred bucks, maybe even one. 25 to $150 a piece. Where you get that money from, man? You got the money and you clear all them things. And you're trying to tell the customs officer, I leave Nassau with them things, man, because they don't got no tags on the clothes. But you can see the clothes never got worn a day in his life, man. Could someone tell me I preaching the truth? I mean, these, my good Christian people. Now, I just want you to know that these were good God fearing people now, but we know how to slip through the crack. And then we go home, we got to put all our stuff on the truck, we go home, and then all of a sudden we remember we're beheming, what's wrong with these roads, man? Why the light cutting off, man? Why, why the lines hanging over the road, man? What's wrong with this country, man? What's wrong with this hospital, man? What's wrong? [00:12:57] Speaker B: Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. [00:12:58] Speaker A: And then we start to complain. But while we was in Florida, oh, man, oh, man, we living good. We living good. So do you really believe the average Bahamian is really suffering? Because when you suffer, you got to run. When you suffer like they do in Haiti, you got to leave that place and run to the Bahamas. And I want you to know something that my lady said to me this morning. She said, the Bahamas, Darwin, is the new America. Everybody knows you go north here illegally, now ICE looking for you. But you come to the Bahamas, they got opportunity. They got opportunity. The new Americas, the Bahamas. You could come to this country from the Philippines, you could come from Africa, you could come from Jamaica, you could come from Cuba, you come from Guyana, you come from Costa Rica and Panama, you come from all these places. And guess what? You could live good in the Bahamas. I would talk a little bit about that today. I want to give you those numbers. 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Anywhere from the family of Island 300-5720. Or you can text at 422-4796. And then my friend Darwin, before you take the microphone, said to me last night, he said, garth, you know what I want you to put out there. So I'm not going to take credit for this question. He says, why are we not applying income tax on foreign workers? If you got a work permit, you should be paying income tax. That way, some 15% of their income goes back to the treasury to support the Bahamian people who are not employed. That was just his question. Darwin, Russell, welcome to the show today, sir. [00:14:56] Speaker C: Good afternoon, guards. Good afternoon to the nation. September 1st, first day of the ninth month, eh? [00:15:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. And traffic. How was the traffic for you? [00:15:06] Speaker C: Today's traffic? [00:15:09] Speaker A: You didn't experience? No, no, no, I don't experience. He's one of bougie people. Y' all don't have no traffic where you live? [00:15:13] Speaker C: I am. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus. [00:15:14] Speaker C: I, I'm. I. [00:15:15] Speaker A: You don't live on that side of town? [00:15:16] Speaker C: No, no, I don't, I. [00:15:20] Speaker A: Well, One thing with Mr. Russell, he works for himself and I'm almost certain he knows how to meander his way through traffic or he knows how to schedule himself to where he doesn't have to endure that traffic. But if you had a horrific traffic story today, I'd be interested in hearing someone's horrific traffic story today. You know, that would also be interesting. So when you hear about taxation for foreign labor, do you think that will affect our immigration situation in terms of people coming here to labor to work, the maids of life with key and the butlers and the gardeners and the handyman and the hotel executive workers, those people that have these work permits, will that somehow decrease the amount of foreign labor or foreign presence that we have here in the commerce of the Bahamas? [00:16:13] Speaker C: I think, Garth, it could have an impact, but it won't have the impact that you think it may when you deal with the nature of our immigration is twofold. It's on the high end, it's on the low end. Payments on average aren't competing for entry for middle market managerial jobs for the most part in certain subsectors, maybe. No, that's not where the immigration fight is. The immigration fight is on the top end. The CEO, those people reporting to the CEO for the, for those offshore banks and those hotel high end work permits, those top tier roles. And it's on the low end for the, for the housekeeper, the gardener, the landscape of the contract worker, the contractors, helpers. I should say on, on that end it will affect those on the low end. If you make the income tax burden high or even if you make it above, let's say 20, 30%, those employers are not going to increase the salary to compensate and they're not going to pay the income tax on behalf of the employee. So what we used to call it when I worked in the US was a gross up. Right. So they're not going to gross up the salary and incur that expense. But I would argue that they probably will do that for high end workers. So, so you have to deal with those two problems differently. I, I would have different solutions and different strategies depending upon which which side of the, of the immigrant level, if you will, that I want to influence or empire. [00:17:56] Speaker A: Well, I'm thinking the amount of people that we have in this country each year that applies for a work permit. Of course, we're not competing for their jobs. We don't want their jobs. Their jobs are the pits. But the revenue that we can stream from those multiple individuals that can possibly make an impact on our spending when it comes to situations like health care. We know that in many of the clinics, the foreigners that are actually in there for the most part utilizing our doctors and our nurses and getting medication from our pharmacies, these are all cost in terms of the population of people in the country. That's going to require additional policemen, that's going to require additional civil service to be rendered to these type people. And it puts a strain on electrical cost and other utility costs. And I'm simply saying if you were able to get at least 15% from these individuals, either that would deter them from living here because it's extremely expensive, the cost of living is very high, or that would give us at least a bit of lift in terms of affording our daily lives here in the Bahamas. [00:19:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, they would argue that that's what the work permit fee is designed to do. [00:19:18] Speaker A: I don't think that's sufficient. [00:19:19] Speaker C: I mean, you may not, but I believe that this is once again one of those policy decisions that depending upon who you're trying to target is easily evaded. [00:19:28] Speaker A: Easily? [00:19:29] Speaker C: Yeah, very easily evaded. [00:19:31] Speaker A: So then we need to ensure that this then is not overlooked. We need to put some strength into the process. [00:19:38] Speaker C: I don't think there's a single administration that has the appetite to do what you are proposing. [00:19:42] Speaker A: What you're talking about. [00:19:43] Speaker C: Okay, you. Traps you today, I could see that. [00:19:46] Speaker A: No, but you, you tell me there's not a single administration for the last 52 years, not one that is not serious about that. [00:19:52] Speaker C: Not one. So let me play this scenario out for you. I'll just give you one potential outcome. Right? So let's say you start to, to do that, impose that income tax, let's say the high end sector, those offshore bankers, those, those vice presidents of the major hotel properties, those people are disproportionately American and Canadian. Okay, let's say in retaliation the United States decides it's going to do a reciprocal income tax escalation on Bahamians living in Canada and the United States. Okay, so for every 15% we tax them, they add 15% of the taxation of the Bahamian who's living abroad. Okay, how you think that's. [00:20:31] Speaker A: But it won't be only the Bahims, it'll be the Jamaicans and everybody else who lives there. [00:20:34] Speaker C: Okay. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Okay. [00:20:35] Speaker C: So how do you think that's going. [00:20:36] Speaker A: To go over and bring your backside back home? [00:20:38] Speaker C: Okay, so the very people who would be responsible for implementing that policy are the children who live abroad. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Okay, I Could. I could give you that. But also where they live is also our banks here in the Bahamas. [00:20:51] Speaker C: It's never going to happen. It's never going to happen. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Boy, you got me at a standstill. 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Anywhere from the family of Ireland. 300-5720 or you can text us at 422-4796. We're gonna take a quick break folks and we'll be right back. 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[00:23:27] Speaker A: Eat who am I to be blind pretense? Even me I saw must disregard a broken bottle top and a what? [00:23:39] Speaker B: And so. [00:23:42] Speaker A: They follow each other on the. [00:23:49] Speaker B: Go. That's the man in the mirror. [00:23:58] Speaker A: And we're back, we're back. We got our main man Kermit there on the board and I, I really do appreciate him much and you know, coming to the next time I see, you know how I do it, I gotta make sure you stay cool. But we got a text that came in and said, Good afternoon, Mr. Garth. Can we add 3 to 5% on money orders leaving the country by work permit holders? Just a thought. My opinion. Go ahead. Darvin. Russell. [00:24:25] Speaker C: I love that one. [00:24:26] Speaker A: Why you love that? [00:24:27] Speaker C: Because that one can be super targeted and once again, two tiered strategy that deals with the lower income earners within the country and we know that they come here, work and repatriate the majority of their funds. So if you want to target that subsegment, that's a, that's a, that's a beautiful way to do it. [00:24:46] Speaker A: And 3 to 5% is sufficient? [00:24:48] Speaker C: Well, I mean you would have to run the numbers on it to see and extrapolate across the, whatever you believe the population of that is to see the potential revenue from that. But it's a reasonable enough number. It's reasonable, I think so. [00:24:59] Speaker A: Would it deter somebody from sending 3 to 5%? So it needs to be higher? [00:25:04] Speaker C: No, you're not. The whole purpose of them coming here is to send the money back. There's nothing you're going to do that's going to stop them. All you're trying to do is have a benefit accrue to the country over and above their work permit fees. And a lot of those people who would be paying that particular fee that the Texture is proposing aren't paying work permit fees because they're here illegally. [00:25:26] Speaker A: This is the issue that I'm having now. [00:25:28] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:28] Speaker A: And then this national insurance situation, same situation. [00:25:32] Speaker C: If they're not regularized, they're not paying national insurance. So you have to go after the employer in those particular cases. You have to attack these problems from a multitude of avenues, they said, other. [00:25:45] Speaker A: Than the VAT and other handling charges. So they want that money from them too. [00:25:51] Speaker C: What's the point? [00:25:52] Speaker A: The point is that they want to charge them this 3 to 5% on the money orders. And that's apart from the fact that they're going to be spending in this country and other handling charges. In other words, they can assess some additional fees. [00:26:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I think we have to have an understanding of how the government actually collects its revenue in the Bahamas. Right. We collect our revenue mostly from consumption based taxes, which is what makes it regressive. Consumption taxes. Fat. And the like are very difficult to evade whether you're here legally or illegally because you still have to eat. So unless you're smuggling your food in, you still have to pay some minimum level of taxation, of course, but those fee based taxes, a work permit fee, a building permit fee for the residents that you live in, if you had a rental tax of some type fee. No, you're evading all of those taxes because you are illegally occupying a space, you are illegally employed, or you probably either paid directly from the Bahamian that employed you. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Okay. [00:26:55] Speaker C: In cash from the Bahamian that employed. [00:26:58] Speaker A: The same behemoth who complained. [00:26:59] Speaker C: That's correct. [00:27:00] Speaker A: About the immigration situation. Oh, okay. But let me take this call. Go ahead, call her caller. Go ahead. [00:27:08] Speaker C: Calling you on Guardian Radio. Go ahead. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Yes, how you doing? [00:27:11] Speaker C: We're good, how are you? [00:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I want to get in on the conversation. It's my understanding that you all are saying that can be done with the taxation, but we have never been under Pintard administration or even given, I can say the coalition, but I can leave that alone. I don't want to disrespect anybody. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Yes. [00:27:33] Speaker B: But the reality is if that was done, we would detour a lot of people because there's a lot of slackness going on in this country concerning taxation and also a lot of slackness going on in the Princess Margaret Hospital. [00:27:46] Speaker C: Understand? And I can accept both of those points. The only thing that I don't know how much of what you caught, but the only thing, my point was not that it cannot be done. I just don't believe that it will be done because of who it impacts. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Right. [00:27:57] Speaker C: But fair points. Yeah, fair point. Thanks for your contribution. [00:28:01] Speaker B: Pardon me? [00:28:02] Speaker C: I said fair point. Thanks for your contribution. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:28:05] Speaker C: Have a good day. [00:28:06] Speaker A: Yeah, you see, I heard him mention some names there and I know they probably feel, Darvin Russell, that I'm running from the situation, but it's not that I'm running. We continue to feel the solution to our problems is in parties and people. We keep putting our trust in mankind. And as we look at the faces of the solution, we tend to overlook the system that's in place. And we almost want to make it seem as if the person is larger than the system, not understanding that the person themselves is attempting to get into the system. Since they want to put me there because he put me there. So when you have this confidence in a man that they will do as soon as they stand downtown Bay street, they first make an oath to another man. Come on, man, I want to talk to you not to the people, to another man. That I'm going to do my part. And when they get there, they have instructions that they have to follow. [00:29:21] Speaker C: Can I go deep? [00:29:22] Speaker A: Please go deep. Because I respect the caller, but I keep telling these people, I don't think you'll understand governance. Governance doesn't work where you think a man could wake up tomorrow morning and change everything. It doesn't work that way. The world isn't created that way. The systems of the world are interlocked, intertwined, and there are rules and regulations that you got to follow. You want to break the rules, then there are dire consequences. But go deep, Darwin, Russell, go deep. [00:29:48] Speaker C: You sure you're ready for this? [00:29:49] Speaker A: I am so ready for this. [00:29:51] Speaker C: All right. I heard a preacher say something that I thought was so profound. He asked question to the audience and he asked him, he said, what is it that gives you faith or confidence in God? That when you read your Bible and it says a thing, you have confidence and assurance, a faith that knows that it will be done. Is it because of the thing that was said or is it about who said the thing? When you think about who is pronouncing a thing, if you say to your wife, baby, when I get home, we going out to dinner now, make sure you dress when I reach. If you walk in the house at 6 o' clock and she's not ready, chances are you have disappointed her before. If I say to my daughter, daddy could be home in 30 minutes, be ready, she could be ready in 25 because she knows as much, as sure as the sun rises and the moon rises, her daddy will honor his commitment to her. When you think about the politicians that propose a thing, the reason people lack confidence in a manifesto, in a platform is not that the idea itself is an issue that they can't get behind and can't believe it. They have no trust and confidence because those men and women have chronically been a source of disappointment to them. They have not been men and women of their word. That's the issue. So I fundamentally believe that one man, a group of men, a group of women, have the ability to change this nation. [00:31:49] Speaker A: You do. [00:31:49] Speaker C: Period. [00:31:50] Speaker A: How? [00:31:51] Speaker C: Because if they honor the things that they say, they will do as much as you detest, for some people, in some circles, some politicians, when you develop a reputation as a man, as a woman, as a business person, as a parent, as a spouse, for delivering, as Mr. Ingram, which would be referred to as delivery boy, the reason he got that moniker is because actually did what he committed to you. He would do that is incredible currency in politics. When you get branded as a person who does not fulfill their promises, who does not do what you commit to people to do, Bahamians write you off without fail. [00:32:37] Speaker A: Caller, go ahead. You're on the line. Go ahead, caller. Are you call us. Recording the call. [00:32:47] Speaker C: You can call by caller. We didn't, we didn't disconnect. [00:32:49] Speaker A: They were trying to record the call. This text is. Last week I heard someone raise the preposterous argument that we need more immigrants in country to contribute to and build up nib. I say preposterous because the argument was made in context of Haitian migration. Legal or illegal, the Haitian migrants who land here are below the poverty level. The trade off between NIB contributions and the social burden they place on the country is beyond imbalance. We need order, not a mass influx of poverty. [00:33:32] Speaker C: Once again, I think the context is super important when we talk about this kind of stuff. I don't know who it was that the texter is replying from, but there is an argument, a very sober, cogent argument around a controlled, deliberate, strategic immigration policy that increases the population over and above the natural birth rate of the Bahamas. That's actually not a bad policy, period. And I wouldn't even do it from the national insurance perspective. I would do it from a jobs perspective. I would do it from an ownership perspective. I would do it from a skills perspective. There are many reasons for you to target certain immigrant populations, certain sectors, certain industries to help your country grow. The Bahamas population of 400,000 needs to grow. It benefits all of us if we have a more wise, targeted immigration policy that allows our population to grow above our natural birth rate. It's wise policy. But what we've been saddled with is a significant illegal immigration problem that taints our whole perspective on the issue as a whole. Callie on Guardian today with Garth and Darwin. [00:34:46] Speaker B: Hi, Darwin, how are you? [00:34:48] Speaker C: I'm fantastic. [00:34:48] Speaker A: How are you? [00:34:50] Speaker B: I'm good. And Garth? [00:34:52] Speaker A: I'm here. [00:34:52] Speaker B: I don't know if this is Darvin Russell. This is Dr. Lavette Scott. [00:34:57] Speaker C: Oh, my goodness. This is my former classmate, Lavette Scott. There is no way. This is wonderful to hear from you. [00:35:08] Speaker A: How are you? [00:35:08] Speaker B: Calling from North Carolina. [00:35:10] Speaker C: Oh, my God. My sister lives. I mean, I tell all my business on national radio. My sister lives in North Carolina. Yes. [00:35:20] Speaker B: And can talk and that sort of thing. But I just wanted. I'm. I, I started to hear just a little of this and I was supposed to come on last week when I heard that you were coming On. [00:35:29] Speaker C: Okay. [00:35:30] Speaker B: And I didn't know you come on on Sunday. I listened periodically, but not as much as I listened during the week. [00:35:36] Speaker C: Okay. [00:35:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:37] Speaker C: Thank you, honey. Oh, same here. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Nice. I always hear you too, Mr. Gotham. You. You definitely make a lot of sense. I don't say anything about the country because I don't live there. So I don't call in and talk. I just talk about, you know, sometimes. My experience. I call white shows sometimes. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Okay. [00:35:59] Speaker B: And I also call what's his name on five o'. Clock. [00:36:03] Speaker C: Okay. [00:36:03] Speaker B: And Chicago line. You know, I call those shows. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Well, you gotta. We got. [00:36:07] Speaker C: We gotta catch up. You gotta hit me up on Facebook. Send me a Facebook message with your number. [00:36:11] Speaker B: Okay, I would. I would definitely. [00:36:13] Speaker C: I would have a fantastic afternoon. Good to hear from you, dog. [00:36:15] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:16] Speaker A: A lot of behemoth over there, but my family's from Winston Salem. Go ahead. [00:36:20] Speaker B: Yes, sir. Good day to us. [00:36:21] Speaker C: How are you, my brother? [00:36:23] Speaker B: Not bad. You know, I heard you say that that income tax introducing income tax would bring a reciprocal tax. I don't. You know, that's. This is reciprocal tag. This. This was a. This is a Donald Trump thing on. [00:36:37] Speaker C: It is on. [00:36:39] Speaker B: Not on VAT tax, but on. It should have been. It's on. [00:36:44] Speaker C: It's on tariffs now. Yeah, they're doing. But they're doing it on tariffs. They do it on. On visa fees. It's not just tariffs get the biggest play in the. In the media. But it's on more than tariffs. But, but make your point. [00:36:57] Speaker B: Right, but we have. We have a. And we have a custom duty. We do. It is real high custom duty being a reciprocal tariff on it. You know. [00:37:09] Speaker C: No, but the, the but. But Garth's proposal was targeting just foreigners. Everybody pays duty. That's the difference. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Everybody needs to pay income. [00:37:21] Speaker C: I agree. [00:37:22] Speaker B: It's hard to say that. Say that the Progressive Liberal Party, right? [00:37:27] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [00:37:28] Speaker B: They bought. Rather than bring a progressive income tax. They bought a regression. [00:37:33] Speaker C: Exactly. You got it. [00:37:34] Speaker B: And that's. That's. That's extremely sad. [00:37:36] Speaker C: Yes. [00:37:37] Speaker B: You know, this is the kind of revolution we need. You know, we need a revolution from us, from our economic government covenants, not the plp, the FNM or the coalition. [00:37:49] Speaker C: Sure. [00:37:49] Speaker B: You see. And you know, we did what it is you said about the delivery boy. [00:37:56] Speaker C: Yes. [00:37:56] Speaker B: You know, I disagree, you know, because I don't know who he was delivering. Privatization of btc. [00:38:06] Speaker C: Okay. [00:38:07] Speaker B: Okay. Definitely wasn't no people. It wasn't Elvis mandate. [00:38:10] Speaker C: That's a fair point. [00:38:11] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, and that's. That's the problem we have in this country, you know, when we, when we. We've been taught that China was the buggy man. [00:38:20] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [00:38:20] Speaker B: And really China is like the people demand that the wise man from the east, you know, they, China, China does the thing that they. When. When the oligarchs do corrupt things. [00:38:34] Speaker C: Yes. [00:38:34] Speaker B: They go to jail. They get their well taken, same as the politicians. When the politician in China, they got issues, major issues, you see. And you know, and China's. China doesn't care about the white collar workers like the bankers and you know, executives. [00:38:52] Speaker C: The state is definitely in control, you see. [00:38:55] Speaker B: And this is what our government needs to do. We need to care about our workers and we need to come. We need the commanding heights of our industry and we say that tourism, then our government should own it. [00:39:07] Speaker C: Interesting point, my brother. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Interesting and attempted to do. [00:39:10] Speaker C: Interesting point. [00:39:11] Speaker B: Thanks for your contribution not bringing in income tax and you know what I mean. Not getting rid of the bird. Right, citizen? Yes, right. But he did. Penland bought the hotels and we sold it. We sold them, you see, Electricity generation, telco, you know, things like that. You know, we did the owning, you know. And you know, I went to school in the eighth grade. You know what I did study in school? [00:39:37] Speaker C: What's that, sir? [00:39:38] Speaker B: I did electrical technology. Not electrical installation, electrical technology, metal technology, you understand me? We did things like make chisels. You know, there's hot cold chisels, there's a rock chisel, you understand what I mean? There's a wood chisel. And we had to learn the technology around making those three different chisels of the same metal just through the heat technology and the heat. We did the forging, you know, we did things like, like what you call it, simple DC motor, electrical motor that consists of metal work, you understand, Forging of it, woodwork, as well as the technology. [00:40:21] Speaker C: Alrighty, my brother. [00:40:22] Speaker B: So we need to teach our children not just another trade, a technology, the trade is something that is easy to learn. [00:40:34] Speaker A: Trade the call. I think you're on target and feel free to call back again. [00:40:39] Speaker B: One more thing. You see, we gotta train our people to deal with our economy, to function within our economy. Then we have to choose what our economy needs to be. [00:40:50] Speaker A: Well, I like the idea. Yeah, thank you so much, my brother. Not rushing you off, but I gotta take another caller. Go ahead, caller. Hey, Anton, I was trying to get to you. Go ahead. [00:41:02] Speaker B: Yeah, thank you. Good afternoon. Yes, sir, I wanted to take it back to what Davin was talking about regards to immigration. And then you, you were making A point God, before your break, with reference to the humans placing a trust politicians or the wrong people or something of that premise, you were saying the politicians do not be answers or honest solutions. But Dalvin started to speak about something other than what you were saying and I want to hop on that because. [00:41:35] Speaker A: Go ahead. [00:41:35] Speaker B: It's very critical and Darwin, I absolutely support that. The politicians, they do make the difference. They are the difference in your society. Because the stroke of a pen is what makes it more difficult or more easy for all persons to access not only the already super wealthy who pretty much takes up all the air in the economies, especially in small island developing states. And the difference between that happening and continuing to happen is to stroke up a pen by the actual politicians. The politicians are the difference in our country and people. Unfortunately, as Darvin had pointed out, as I point out regularly as well, people have lost faith to a large degree because of broken promises, because of lack of planning and execution of those plans, because we simply haven't been delivering on the things and not to go back to because I do have some concerns that too. Although the delivery boy as he was going did do some good, he also did some bad, right? But the politicians of the day will either make it more difficult for Bahamians to access its patrimony and the opportunities which exist currently not what you have to create. And also they will make the difference in creating that access and that platform for Bahamians to create new opportunities to generate new wealth in the country, but also to access existing wealth. Because there's a tremendous load of existing wealth that not being shared throughout the country the way it ought to be. Because those who already have continue to choke the light out of the economy. And that's unfortunate on the migration part. It's very sad that this conversation becomes so emotional because the fact of the matter is we expand our population except save and accept behemoths are prepared to pay through their noses increase in taxes, increase in fees, whether it be for services or whether it be when you're importing stuff at the bottom. Anton, we do not want to see. [00:44:13] Speaker A: Pardon me, Anton, I like what you're saying. I want to continue that trend of thought. You know, we're about to go to the news. I want to take one more caller, but I want you to hold that thought for me because you're saying something similar to what Darwin said and I want us to go a little bit deeper into that if we can. Is that okay? [00:44:28] Speaker B: No problem. I'll catch you on the next side. [00:44:30] Speaker A: Thank you. My Brother. Take care. Next caller, go ahead, please. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Hello. How you doing? [00:44:34] Speaker A: Oh, we're doing well. I was trying to get you before the news, so go ahead. [00:44:37] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Darvin made a very valuable point how in many countries certain people get punished, politicians and leaders get punished for making wrong mistakes. There's been many things that has happened, and I could say this, especially under the PLP government, but the. The one thing that keeps coming to mind is remember when all those cars were caught and I never heard anything from the news with that. All those cars that came in and they couldn't figure out who owned the cars and all that, then finding out that they might have been stolen cars. Other thing is Mr. Miller and I have a lot of respect for Mr. Miller, but Mr. Miller had owed a lot of money to Bec. Was that ever paid? You know, things like that, because the government is now Mr. Miller's building. But was the bill ever paid? You understand what I'm saying? How is it that you could benefit from the government, the same government and the same people who you never paid your bill with? I have a problem with that. And these are the states blackness that the PLP is allowed in this country. That's all I want to say. [00:45:48] Speaker C: Thank you for your contribution. [00:45:49] Speaker A: Thank you for your call. Davin, you got a text here. Good afternoon, Garth and Darvin and Bahamas. The Bahamas is like Egypt and America wrapped up in one. [00:45:58] Speaker C: Wow. [00:45:59] Speaker A: There's plenty corn and a goodly amount of freedom in those countries. And likewise the Bahamas. The Bahamas must be careful, though, that we don't become like that great city in the Bible that people stand afar off and lament its downfall. We must allow our charitable and loving ways to neglect ourselves and become extinct in our own country. Darwin, you want to respond to that? I don't know if you have a call on the line, caller, go ahead quickly so Darwin can take us to news. Hello, caller, we lost him again. Go ahead, Darwin. Russell, your response. Anton, for the most part, until such time that we return to the subject matter after the news. [00:46:43] Speaker C: I mean, I think, you know, he echoed similar sentiments as I do. We have to. If we're going to move resolutely down this immigration reform idea, I would like it to be a comprehensive proposal both dealing with focus on both the high end and the low end of the spectrum as it relates to the income of a foreign worker. I think you have two different problems from two different spectrums. So I would not see an across the board. I would not expect to see an across the board immigration reform that is narrowly focused on only one and not the other. We have two sets of issues that we need to make sure we have some control and understanding around. The legal immigration in the Bahamas is very well documented. The data is published. You can get it up through 2024 I think was the last time I downloaded it and went through the data. So it's available. But that's as I indicate that's on the high end. It's those on the, on the lower spectrum that Bahamians cause the greatest level of consternation. [00:47:45] Speaker A: Well, I'll say this much, Darwin Russell, I listened to a number of the callers calling. They mentioned names. I don't know why we're so caught up on names. I guess we want to be specific but you know, calling names these days it brings about something called lawsuits. So I tend not to get into people's real personal business. But there is a text that just simply says that possibly the renting of the building is to assist in paying the electrical bill owed. Quite frankly it's taxpayers money. It is your business. But at the same time people today are a bit sensitive. And so as you make assertions or you make assumptions, I would just like to just give you a slight warning that you don't want to go where you cannot afford. And that is where the Bahamas has found itself even in some legal cases against politicians of the past. Absolutely. You know we made assumptions and assertions and then we found that you know what, it couldn't stand up in court. And then of course a lawsuit was, was, was given and of course millions of dollars was lost from the treasury. This is scouting radio today 96.9 FM. I'm here with Darvin Russell, the co host of the program remark every Sunday 5 to 6:30. I am Garth Rose Burrow. I'm sitting in today filling in for this particular, particular space and we're going to go straight to news and you know the phone number 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Anywhere from the family violence 300-5720. You can text at 422-4796. Keep those numbers close to you. 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[00:52:36] Speaker A: And today is September 1st as Darwin Russell has said and you know it'd just be great if we all just took a look in that mirror today as we start the new school year and yesterday Sunday we on the program remark 5 to 6:30 and I gave a challenge yesterday. The challenge was to parents whether you are single parent or there are two parents in the home to not be satisfied. Darwin with the progress of your child last year it's possible your child was not number 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 in the class. It's possible that they were number 21 or 28. All I got Rose Burrow was I was probably number 30. I was the dumb one, you know. [00:53:22] Speaker C: 30, and there's only 29 students they bought. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Well, I gotta say this, you know, Chris Petterman, I, I just felt like I went to church every weekend. My, my, my stepfather. My mother became Seventh Adventist. I became Seventh Adventist because they became Seventh Adventist. That's what belief is all about. And they had this philosophy and this doctrine that Jesus was coming any day now. I said, what? Matthew 25, you know, the bridegroom cometh. And they were not ready. I have to be ready. You don't need a PhD to be ready. You don't have to be brilliant to be ready. You don't have to do homework to be ready. You don't even have to go to school to be ready. You don't need a job to be ready. You don't have to be a Bahamian to be ready. Or all you got to do is give your life and be ready. Because he more than likely. Like a thief in the night. Yeah, because I'm not expecting him to come tomorrow. That's probably when he's going to come. So if Jesus is going to come tomorrow, guess what, Chris? I don't have to do no homework tonight. I did that for six years of St. Augustine's College. [00:54:28] Speaker C: Well, you must. It seems as though your, your knowledge of the Bible was limited because they didn't talk to you about second Peter 3 and 8. No, days are the thousand years and a thousand years as a day. So it may have been imminent. Just not for you. [00:54:40] Speaker A: He didn't come. He didn't come. And I went to Aaron Bailey for an extra year to get a transcript because they couldn't read my transcript. And I said, well, you know what? Let me try and do some homework. And I went to number one in my class. And then I went off to school in Jamaica. And I saw some serious situations of poverty. And I said, my God, if it wasn't for my parents, where would I be? So I decided I'm going to get a job on campus. And I worked as a resident advisor and a security guard. And even though it was Jamaican currency, okay. The work ethic was inspired in me through seeing poverty. And I said, boy, better work. It don't matter how much you're making, you just make sure you make enough to stay alive. And so I went through Hurricane Gilbert and went to school in, in Michigan and worked five jobs While I was there. And people say you must be a Jamaican yourself. You work so hard. Well, listen, poverty frightens me. And so you know, your child, if maybe you need to give them an experience, you know, take them on a trip to another part of the world that has some poverty, like when you go to America, believe it or not. And Darwin, you know this very well. I'm certain there are certain parts of Washington D.C. that you will see homelessness like you've never seen it before. It's in Los Angeles, I think. You got places in. Right. In Florida. You got places in Mississippi. We got places especially Detroit. You know, let your children see that you are so fortunate, you are so blessed. All I need you to do is to apply yourself so this does not happen to you. And you'll be surprised that maybe, just possibly the Garth Rose Barrow in your house will wake up and say, you know what, I better try harder and I better do better because your child has the potential to be number one. You believe that Darwin was. [00:56:29] Speaker C: I do. [00:56:30] Speaker A: So let's have that conversation on this first day. We're back after the break. I know Anton said he's going to call back to finish a statement. And Darwin, I listened to what you said and I listened to one or two of the caller ins say to you that they actually agree with you when you speak about we need possibly this increase of population. Did you say that? [00:56:50] Speaker C: I did. [00:56:51] Speaker A: And that because we have this need for increased population, the migration situation, how would you word that again? It's necessary or would you say. [00:57:03] Speaker C: I don't know if I would say it's necessary. If we do it correctly, it would aid in our growth and development as a nation. Yes. It does not have to have always be considered or look through the lens of it's always a negative thing. [00:57:16] Speaker A: So when we look at we as Bahamians and not all of us can find the type jobs that we want. And then Canada, let's look at Canada to the north, which is another commonwealth nation, says we are accepting immigrants into our country. Especially if you have a skill set or you have education. [00:57:35] Speaker C: Sure. [00:57:36] Speaker A: And many of our people left from here or they left based on what they call victimization, I think it was, or social victimization. And they laughed to Canada and they immersed themselves into Canadian culture and the Canadian nation and they brought hopefully a contribution to Canada. Are you saying that the same thing can now apply here to the Bahamas where we can bring people from Haiti and Jamaica and Cuba and Guyana and those places? [00:58:04] Speaker C: I'm saying if you are going to choose those nations. [00:58:08] Speaker A: You choose. Choose them, yes. Or we can choose which nations we want immigrants to come from. Absolutely. [00:58:13] Speaker C: I mean, you can target your immigration policy, where you do it based on a lottery, a targeted lottery system, where you can say that there are a certain number of legal slots available for immigrants or migrants from these particular countries. So If Jamaica gets 75 slots a year, then you can do it by offering that to the Jamaican public and saying, you know, you can do it with. If you do it with a lottery, say basically it's arbitrary. Or you can target it by industry. You can say you're trying to attract an additional 75 engineers. [00:58:48] Speaker A: So we don't, we don't have a lottery like that here. [00:58:50] Speaker C: Not to my knowledge. [00:58:52] Speaker A: Because I always thought, well, you know, I think we got some teachers from Indy, that we would have a better rate of expression success in our schools. I always felt that way, even though I had a chemistry teacher in St. Augustine's College. The name was Ms. Patnagar. [00:59:08] Speaker C: Yes. [00:59:09] Speaker A: And I went in her class and Ms. Patnagar said, tonight I want you to go home and I want you to remember the periodic table. I said, this woman got to be on her friggin head. Who could remember that? NaCl, come on. [00:59:26] Speaker C: I still remember the first 20 elements. [00:59:28] Speaker A: Something wrong with you. Well, you ain't normal. [00:59:31] Speaker C: Well, I had a little, a little saying that the teacher taught us. And I don't know why, because I don't have the greatest of memory, but I remember my first 20 elements. [00:59:37] Speaker A: Chemistry. [00:59:38] Speaker C: Chemistry. [00:59:38] Speaker A: Boom. Boom. Call you on the line. Go ahead. [00:59:41] Speaker B: All right. Yeah, good afternoon again. Back with you. Back with you all. [00:59:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I wanted to respectfully allow you to finish what you were saying, but I wanted to get in, so go right on ahead, sir. [00:59:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And so, you know, Gavin Davin, sorry. Started to operate on some other aspects of some things that, you know, you remind me. Taking me back to brother Steve McKay's many, many, many months ago and the types of conversations we used to have over there and conversations that, that I used to bring to the table as well, along the lines of we, we do need to expand our population. We already understand what the numbers are. We already know what the circumstances are. [01:00:26] Speaker A: You say expand the population. I just need to ask you and Darwin where y' all gonna put these people? [01:00:30] Speaker B: Yeah, well, let me, let me, let me. Go ahead, let me put it this way. Several things has to happen simultaneously, right? One of those planks the government is finally starting to pursue, and so we starting to move in the right direction as it relates to for instance, National Training Agency, National Apprenticeship program, the expansion of btbi, the polytechnic school down World Road, close to automotive industrial distributors. And that's another plank. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Who's attending those classes, though? [01:01:09] Speaker B: Those, those would be, those would be the senior students at the, at the high schools. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Are they behemoth? Are they of Haitian descent? [01:01:20] Speaker B: If they either either behemoth or persons who are legally residing in the country. Legally. Work permits. [01:01:26] Speaker A: Can you attend that if you have. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Illegal parents through work permits? I don't. That would be a policy. Anyone with courage anywhere on the planet. Right, but it's possible. People's resources. No, I don't, I don't, I don't think so. Especially where the nation's resources are funding those costs. I don't see it happening. But, but, but, but to move on, to make my point quickly so I can get off the line, that's. That's a plank. Right. And that plank will. We will begin to realize the fruits of those investments in years to come. Right. However, there's still a gap in the interim, which is another plank which is what immigration is supposed or SMART is supposed to assist and aid us in filling that gap until behemoth get up to scratch. Right. In terms of soft skills, hard skills, whatever the case may be, technical skills, high level technical skills, etc. Etc. Right. As it relates to immigration, as it relates to farming, feeding ourselves, as it relates to construction in particular, which is a very strong industry in this country and we need even more construction. And so looking at the bigger picture, which would tie into cost of living in the country, being able to afford to survive and thrive in your own country is a major plank that the government has to begin planning towards in order to make it. In order to ensure that the white picket fence, as they have a saying in the US Is not out of reach of the local citizenry within your country. So that we all will be able to afford at the end of, at the end of that planning or that money, which is what it really should be, we are in a better position financially, economically, and we are similar to China, capable of taking full advantage of all the opportunities that will come about in our country. [01:03:35] Speaker A: You got to breathe on, but you gave us a lot to talk about there. I appreciate your call. I want to go ahead and read some text and I'm going to allow Darvin Russell to respond to what you have said so far. [01:03:48] Speaker B: Can I just say one more thing before you let me. [01:03:50] Speaker A: All right, 10 seconds. Go ahead, go ahead. [01:03:53] Speaker B: As it relates to one of the callers Raised an interesting point earlier and Davin spoke about it as it relates to taxation. Right, but that's already happening through our financial services. In order for us to remain viable, we had to fall in line with agreements that these first world nations are putting in place in order to capture all of the income that their citizenry is realizing internationally in order for them to realize that loophole that currently exists, the Bahamas to conform. And so that's already happening. And so a lot of things are happening in a positive direction. And I pray that we continue to move forward in the right direction. National planning, national think tanks, et cetera, et cetera, so that we can get this done for our people. [01:04:39] Speaker A: Thank you so much for your call. Thank you so much. Yes, sir. Text right here. As a new host, you probably was not allowing more than one minute to express your points, but some people are still allowed to have their own way. Well, guess what, as a new host, sometimes when you are saying feel may add more to the conversation. I will make that allowance meant to be disrespectful. As you can see, the board is now clear. And I always make a point that if someone else is calling in that I wear the line as quickly as possible. And so yes, I do not have a watch on, but I am listening. Darvin Russell, I do think I am listening to what is being said and I do attempt to give you the best show possible. Like I said, I'm only filling in for this particular time. I'm not a new host, I'm just a temporary host. And I could tell you right now I'm sitting here and I said, Darvin Russell, I want to put my boat in the water so bad. You don't understand the sacrifice to sit here and speak with you today. But you know what? We're not going to cry about it. We enjoy being here. We enjoy talking with you and listening to you. So we're not going to make any spilled milk about this. We're just simply here to have a great conversation with you that hopefully will add to the building of our nation. Callie on the line. Go ahead. [01:05:56] Speaker B: Yes, yes. Excuse me. Come on, man. Please tell Anton stop talking about things that are not facts. And that when we bought in fat taxes they deemed it to be easier. Not, you know, and all international organization. They told us we need to we should do an income tax. A progressive income tax. Come on man. I'm turning to what you call it defend the plp, the so called progressive who's supposed to bring in progressive tax that bought a regressive tax, tax, you know, and you talk about immigration and we need more workers. Come on, man. We can have immigrant workers without giving away citizenships. [01:06:43] Speaker C: Agreed. [01:06:43] Speaker B: Bombs is too small to be giving out citizenship. Donald Trump is just sending too much people in this country. He's asking, he's saying he can't afford to have all these immigrants in this country. Asking poor nation situation, take them. What type of side this is. Please make that make sense to me. [01:07:02] Speaker C: Appreciate you, my brother. [01:07:03] Speaker A: Hey, man, we appreciate the commentary. Someone says here, I agree completely with an orderly, well thought out migration policy. Last week the response to immigration expansion was made in relation to a comment in the news from a political candidate of passports being given out handy to Haitian migrants. My comment was expanding. Haitian is not where we want to go. We do not need population with persons below the poverty level. You want to respond to that one quickly? Darvin Russell says I agree. You agree? Okay, then another person here says tax, tax, tax. Darwin, you know, Darwin said he is an economics major. I think you are, you know, at the masses. You know, when you talk about money. I love to have him in the studio with me because it makes me lazy. But I am listening. But where are all the tax dollars going, Darvin? And this place is really a. Well, they said blank hole, but you know what they said, you know, a fecal hole. I'll say. Especially downtown, a lot of cars with carbon dioxide. It's hard. The straw market is so jammed up you can't even breathe. Abandoned buildings, tourist everywhere. Not a police in sight. Said, please stop the traffic on Bay Street. My God, the air would be cleaner. 50 plus years of craft leaders who put their pocket first, not country or citizens. Governor, when I returned from Atlanta I thought about that because you know, every year we had to do the emissions test. [01:08:40] Speaker C: Yes. [01:08:40] Speaker A: And we had to pick the taxes on that. That's what you pay for every year to ensure your vehicle was emitting clean air. I don't have a problem with that because you see, oh, that's another cost that increases the cost of living. But do you know how expensive healthcare is when people have asthma pay and go through the rate of cancer in this country through these emissions you can make smart decisions like this. And if you want a car, you pay for it. If you want a car, you gotta pay for the gas, you gotta pay for the oil, you gotta pay for the servicing of your car, the painting of your car, everything with your car. You might as well pay also for emissions because your emissions affect us all. I detest and I hate Seeing buses with that black smoke coming out of it and those big heavy trucks, the black smoke just. I mean, what type of country are we running here? Darvin Russell, Is this paradise? Call on the line. Go ahead. [01:09:34] Speaker B: Hey, good afternoon, Garvin and Garth. [01:09:35] Speaker C: Good afternoon. [01:09:36] Speaker B: Hey, Garth. I can change my name to G Man because it's with the lady name Gabriel, Garby. Garth and. And Garvin. Right. [01:09:44] Speaker A: Darling. [01:09:45] Speaker B: I like listening to Garvin. You know, Goblin is very, very intelligent. Hyper intelligent for me. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Right, yeah. That's why I keep him around. He makes me look good and I listen. [01:09:52] Speaker B: Yeah, but. But I. I want to make God find these people from. But you know, I like the last caller. Right. So, so, but you know, you have to understand. Let me disagree, right. It's all out of what's in people's head now. I don't know nothing. I just ask good question. Because I see it in reality that having a large population does not equate to economic success. And so what I want Anton to know is that politicians on a geopolitical scale look at every citizen as a taxpayer. That is why Anton is spreading this farce of a narrative which really doesn't. It could be debunked right away because Haiti has a large population. A lot of places have large population and they're impoverished nations. So we know that the best resource for the nation is the people. So somebody was on the radio talking about how many technicians China have. And so if the government have been educating us and then we cleave all this juxtaposing the socioeconomic fallout as a result of unabated migration. So my math teacher at sc, my first year there, when I my only year there was an Indian teacher named Mr. Bhagwandon. [01:10:58] Speaker A: Jesus, right? [01:10:59] Speaker B: Yes. He was a very good math teacher. And so I agree with you with people from India. And my chemistry teacher was from Grenada, a very nice lady. But I didn't see to me, I really would wait behemoth teachers. But I've had a lot of foreign teachers. But then I had a behemoth. My biology teacher was a Bahamian. I got a B in O level. So it doesn't for me it's the student. And we're not looking at external. [01:11:24] Speaker C: Factors. [01:11:24] Speaker B: External vices that influence child behavior and learning. And so I just wanted to debunk that myth because it depends on the quality of life, adequate resources, infrastructure, employment opportunities and economic management without problem. See, what I'm saying is to the benefit of the capitalist, as you even speak about the sickness the level of sickness. The level of sickness exists because of our ignorance and the influence of transnational companies and capitalism to inflict whatever they can on people. Like Dr. Pinto mentioned the other day that I had really forgotten that they irradiate some dairy products, you know, radiate. So we are all ignorant. And so I just wanted to debunk that. Having a large population does not equate to being economically. Because if we had our population growing sustainably. That's the word they use, then we would be in a better position. We would have these fallouts. And maybe we need to hear from some teachers who can admit that half of their classes cannot speak English in some of these inner schools. Dilemma within itself. We are all fooling ourselves. And me, who suffering the repercussions, have to put my son in a private preschool because there's no space in the government preschool. I don't need to hear anything from anybody because I'm on the ground in the city and I live with these people and I love these people, but I don't know who love them because people left passing this fast narrative and they have no idea what's going on in the city. They're not waking up and seeing strangers from people and don't know who these people are, what they're capable of. My Lord, I into that. [01:12:50] Speaker A: We appreciate your brother. Next caller, go ahead, please. [01:12:54] Speaker C: Call her on the air. [01:12:56] Speaker A: Go ahead, caller, call you there. Let's take the next caller. Go ahead. Call her, caller. Go ahead. [01:13:04] Speaker B: Hey, yeah, just stare at me for one. One minute, please. [01:13:09] Speaker A: Okay, Anton, I gotta give you 30 seconds. Go ahead. [01:13:13] Speaker B: Yeah, 52. First and foremost, you can't compare a failing economic economy to a successful and thriving economic economy, right? Secondly, when you manufacture or when you analyze the expenditure in our country versus the revenue intake in our country versus the GDP and how that passes down to citizens in a real way in our country versus the level of growth that we experience. Either we grow the economy or we grow the persons who can afford to shoulder the expenses in the country. [01:13:54] Speaker A: I appreciate that, Anton. [01:14:00] Speaker B: Sorry. The smartest way to engage persons and. Andy, Hello. [01:14:05] Speaker A: Yeah, you got to go quickly. [01:14:06] Speaker B: The smartest way to engage the persons in the economy, where you have a lack of capacity to technical jobs in the economy is one of the ways, is through migration, through smart migration. And one of the ways to shoulder the burden of the expenditure in our country in order to. In order to put us in a better financial position outside of growing the economy. [01:14:30] Speaker A: Quickly, Anton. [01:14:31] Speaker B: Grow the population. [01:14:31] Speaker A: All right, my friend. Go ahead, caller. Go ahead. [01:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm God. And Gavin. [01:14:38] Speaker C: How are you, my brother? [01:14:39] Speaker B: What Anton failed to understand. Right. What Anton fail to understand is this. Yeah, you want to grow the economy, but what's the rush to grow the economy as if you're going to live here forever. What about future leaders? What about classroom space? What about bedroom space? All of these things need to be factored in before you issue out work permit and citizenship. Why do you think we have Bohemians? I had a friend just the other day visited the horse, had to be rushed to the hospital, had to wait 24 hours just to be. Before he could even get a bed. [01:15:17] Speaker A: From the amount of people in there. Huh. [01:15:20] Speaker B: You really believe that's fair? But Anton, please use common sense and intelligence when you're trying to push a narrative. We can't just create this new citizenry without building new hospitals, new new schools. Look, and, and, and, and, and work and, and having a collaboration with these various agencies that is possible. The politicians haven't done like that. [01:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's Pl. [01:15:43] Speaker B: Medical insurance. [01:15:44] Speaker A: We want to follow up on that. I appreciate that comment. Let me take another caller. Go ahead, caller. [01:15:48] Speaker B: Yes. Boy, this is a show today. [01:15:51] Speaker A: Well, I'm trying to get in it and on it, but, you know, I got to let the people do it. Go ahead. Go right ahead. [01:15:56] Speaker B: Good job, man. [01:15:57] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:15:58] Speaker B: You know, I've. My research has shown that Dominica is the country where most fraudulent passports are. [01:16:04] Speaker A: Dominica? [01:16:05] Speaker B: Yeah, Dominica. [01:16:06] Speaker A: Wow. [01:16:08] Speaker B: In the Caribbean. Where most fraudulent passports are issued. Coming from. And I've also noticed that it is only under the current. You know. You know, I call them no name because I know you don't want to get sued. The current administration that we seem to have this influx of passports that the passport department can't say we actually made. So there's some. There has to be a connection between this administration and fraudulent passports. [01:16:35] Speaker C: Well, the other challenge, caller, is we don't know the actual numbers and that. [01:16:40] Speaker B: Makes it even worse because they deliberately don't want you to know the actual number. Were you able to determine, because I didn't get the show. The persons who are born that are undocumented and I appear in our hospital, I was not. [01:16:51] Speaker C: Because the data, by the way, I did answer that question on air. The data is available because when you fill out your birth registration, you have to disclose that information. So the government has it, but it's not disclosed information. [01:17:04] Speaker B: There's a reason why they don't want. [01:17:06] Speaker C: To do that because I would not disagree with you. Yes, sir. [01:17:08] Speaker B: All Right. Good show, man. [01:17:11] Speaker A: We appreciate you always, man. Let me take another caller. Go ahead, call her. [01:17:14] Speaker B: Yes, how you doing? Seattle and Johnson both Davenant to you guys and I hope you'll find me some time for us to have a conversation. [01:17:21] Speaker A: I could give you two minutes a day. I'm giving it two minute time today. [01:17:24] Speaker B: Come on now, you give, you give, you give people who just talk for the sake of talking, you know, I don't call them opinion. [01:17:29] Speaker A: Well, how you go. [01:17:30] Speaker B: But you know, I called it what I know, but if somebody told me what I believe, what I heard or what I was. [01:17:36] Speaker C: No, go ahead. Don't waste your two minutes depending yourself. [01:17:40] Speaker A: Let me tell you what happened. Anton called right before the news. So I said, you know what, let me let him get some extra time. [01:17:45] Speaker B: Let me just make my point and regardless, regardless of the time I get to make, but I get to squeeze and I get to. [01:17:51] Speaker A: Thank you very much. [01:17:51] Speaker B: Okay, go ahead. So when you talk about capital, human capital and growth, that is a conversation within itself. But you know, you guys ask about size, like you said, where the people are going to go. Singapore, which is just one and a half times of Freeport, not Grand Bahama, not the Bahamas, one and a half times the size of Freeport has about 5 million, 6 million people of that, right? Then Freeport is like 560 square kilometers and Singapore is 735 square kilometers compared to New Providence, which is 200 square kilometers. And so it's not a population goal, it's a strategy for particular growth. But even when you look at Singapore, we talk about the breakdown of citizenship with those people, you know, believe it or not, only 50% or more, closer to 60% of those are citizen. Then about 10% of those are permanent residents. And then there's a separate designation of 4 million people. That is, that is non resident. No, 2 million people, that's non resident. I'm doing it calculating my head. So I'm simply saying that we don't have conversations in context. So when you start talking about growth, there has to be a strategy of growth. And we talk about these education and training, but no one could tell you what are we training our people for? What are we preparing for this population growth. And so when we talk about maximizing human capital, education is an economic strategy. But in this new dispensation we're in, you must have a digital first workforce. Okay, I can go into details on that. Let me move to what you said, Garvin, about Darwin, about taxation. The Bahamas I think is the one Two, the fifth sixth largest tax exchange country in the world, meaning that we have agreement, tax, tax, whatever that means, Tax information exchange agreement. We are the only place signed more than us is Monica for 35. The Bahamas has 32 hours of 2025. Now you can count OED country, you only have three countries like Canada, UK and Germany have a higher count. What does that mean? Your taxation here information is exchanged and we have in the U.S. u.S. Citizens pay taxes no matter where they are. And so in the same capacity, when they pay taxes here, they also must be able to write it off wherever they are. So there is a balance in that whole conversation that we'll be talking about almost for the agreement that we have with this minimum top off pack. And so there's a larger conversation, but in the same capacity, when we talk about immigration, it has to be purposely directed immigration. And we have no strategy for the growth and development of the Bahamas. And so that's when you start talking about the ownership of the economy. And I think many times you guys focus on this and you have leadership and they repeat this over time that they are barriers to open the country. And we have leaders that sit down now and say, oh, we're going to tear down the walls of ownership. We're going to tear down the walls of the oligarchs. And I say to you in that studio, anyone else call me or call me out and explain. Name one single barrier to ownership in this country that still exists being held or controlled by the oligarchs. It does not. Now, if you live in the cave, you see everything in black and white or shadows on the wall. When you leave the cave to go into the sunlight, you begin to see trees of colors, dogs of fur, all these other different things. And so the problem is like even access we say banks. There is methods now with fintech in the world and even more now with the two bills that Trump signed, opens up doorways for behemoths to have access to capital. The fact that they are totally unaware of it because the tree fall in the forest and you wasn't there, you didn't understand it did not mean it didn't happen. The problem we have again brings us back to education. We have not been educated to the strategies that's available to us for ownership of the economy. Finish the nation. You know, you want to build a bed and breakfast, develop a business plan, suffice enough that you can just talk to 1000 people out of the 11 million or out of the 300 million in the US or whatever. In Canada to convince 1000 people to invest 1000 in you and the dare bill and all of these opens these doorways. [01:22:24] Speaker A: Seattle event, One minute. [01:22:25] Speaker B: Stop complaining of where we are and begin to point the pathway forward. Get individuals that understand. [01:22:34] Speaker A: You know what, I gotta go to a break. I gave you an extra two minutes into the break and I was trying to hint to you we got to go to a break and you're still going on. I need you to just pay attention. And as we come back from the break, I have some other callers on the line. Stay on the line for me and see Alan. If you want to call at the end of the show, I'll be quite willing to listen to what you have to say in continuance. But we got to go to a break. 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[01:27:11] Speaker C: Smart talk all day. [01:27:17] Speaker A: Been a victim of a selfish kind. [01:27:20] Speaker B: Of love it's time that I realize. [01:27:27] Speaker A: And we're back. We're back. Listen, man, you know, the time is just ticking away. And you know, you people, you're attempting to cuss me or fuss me today, whichever which way. If he's a Christian, you're fussing. If you're not a Christian, you're cussing. And you talk about the time I give people. So let me just put it to you this way. When I give you extra time, you still take more time. Now, what you call that? That's respect or disrespect. I keep telling y'. All, try to keep your commentary to within one minute. I came off a trip from Fort Lauderdale for four or five days last week. I came into the studio today. I feel a bit refreshed. Darvin rustled after that rain that we had yesterday, and I felt like I'm in a good mood. I don't mind giving you a little extra minute and then you can tell me. So you need more time Than that. I give you a little extra time and you still want more time. How much time you want? There are other people on the line waiting to talk and I trying to get to everybody. That's all this really is. It ain't got nothing to do with how intelligent you are. It's not personal. God doesn't dislike you. God doesn't think you're not smart. We know that. You're a great people. You all are brilliant people. So watch what God does now. He's talking now. And watch what God does now. Calling you on the line. Go ahead. See that? [01:28:35] Speaker B: Hey, God. What's up, brother? [01:28:36] Speaker A: I shut my mouth so you could talk. Go ahead, my brother. [01:28:38] Speaker B: All right. Good afternoon to you and to your guests. I just wanna. I just wanna talk about something. Yesterday I had a. I was a family function here and I had one of the. A major business holder, female at that. [01:28:53] Speaker A: Wow. [01:28:53] Speaker B: From Grand Bahama. I'm not gonna call her name. She's a major business owner. [01:28:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:28:58] Speaker B: And she says to me, you know, I don't. I ain't for no plp. I for no F and M. I ain't no politics places. But the real estate in Grand Bahama is booming. Jobs are booming. And listen to me, God, this woman will do nothing in politics. Nothing. And it's so amazing, right, that when these persons from Grand Bahama call your talk show, they don't talk about the goodness. Have a good day, bro. I ain't gonna take up no time. [01:29:26] Speaker A: You tell that lady she needs to tune in here to Guardian Radio Today, 9649 FM. And I sitting here, I want to know who this woman is. Because anybody who got goodness, I need to know them. What did you say, David? Surely goodness and what mercy shall follow me, follow God all the days of his life. Next call on the line. Go ahead, go ahead, call. [01:29:44] Speaker C: Are you on there? [01:29:45] Speaker B: Call. [01:29:45] Speaker A: Are you there? I think the caller probably fell asleep on us. Here's your text. Good afternoon, sir. Where can I find the information about passport that was issued in the Bahamas that the passport office don't know where they came from? I heard one of your callers made this claim and you guys agreed with it. I remember that one. But anyhow, you'll need to stop allowing persons to make statements. That is not true. You recall that? No, I don't recall that. So maybe they're hearing things, but I don't recall that. Okay. Hey, bro, this a good week. You have Michael in the background. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You talking about Michael? [01:30:28] Speaker C: Michael Jackson? [01:30:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:30:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we got Michael. You know, Michael is an entertainer, but he also always has a good message and I hope people can get to understand that. I try to give you a good message. God, this is a hot show today. My office is listening and fully entertained. But one of our Texas OR callers was right. That's Cleaver. Okay, since he was right, I'll call the same. But Cleaver was right. You intend to increase the population and you don't have a corresponding plan for health care, education and housing. It just doesn't make sense. And your Sunday show was lively as well. Kudos, Garth. Well, kudos to you, Darvin. [01:31:09] Speaker C: Thanks. [01:31:09] Speaker A: You always make a great show, you know, next person here says, well, let's take a caller, go ahead, call her. [01:31:17] Speaker B: How you doing, Marvin? [01:31:18] Speaker C: We're good. [01:31:19] Speaker A: Doing real good. [01:31:20] Speaker B: This my dragon here from North Africa. [01:31:22] Speaker C: I'm my driver from North. What's going on in Abaco? We don't get a lot of North Abaco calls. [01:31:27] Speaker B: No, no, no. I don't know if y' all knew who I really is on a talk Tr I. I do bad. I can tell you that now. I want to jump on some point. Point. [01:31:36] Speaker C: Go ahead. You got one minute. [01:31:38] Speaker B: What do you mean I got one minute? [01:31:39] Speaker C: Go ahead. [01:31:39] Speaker A: Well, it's 151, so, you know, we got to get out of here. I don't know. Yeah, I don't live here. [01:31:45] Speaker B: United Liver Train Boat Island. Okay, look here at four family members with these young fellas every day on these little motorbikes. I don't lose four family members lose their car. The fellas losing control on these motorbikes and running to you. None of the bike lights in and they only 10, 17, 18, 19. Wow. I told them. And they end up injuring themselves or they end up dying in the car feeling wow. So I have to meet with manual or the commission of police. She have to do a road block just specifically for these young fellows. On these motorbikes. All my family members car get right off and they lose they car run. [01:32:26] Speaker C: Right into them and they don't get arrested. [01:32:28] Speaker B: Broke leg or brick. Ripped the next one dead, then the next one neck injury. [01:32:33] Speaker A: Wow. [01:32:35] Speaker C: And no one, no one gets arrested. [01:32:37] Speaker B: That doesn't matter. Up to bed with urgently between the commissioner police or. I gotta go see her. I can see her soon before I go back. [01:32:46] Speaker A: I like the call. I like it now. [01:32:48] Speaker B: So it's become a wild goose town. [01:32:50] Speaker A: I like it. Someone just mentioned that to me. Even today, going on one wheel is even illegal. And the police May see it in this. Let them ride on by. So yeah, you're on target, man. I appreciate that call and hopefully you'll. [01:33:01] Speaker B: Be calling before I go. [01:33:03] Speaker A: What you want to tell me Use. [01:33:05] Speaker B: My former co. Wake up. [01:33:07] Speaker A: I. Your former coworker. No, man. No, man. That's someone who sound like me and look like me. That's all right though. [01:33:14] Speaker B: I do a little two years there. [01:33:16] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you. You're well rounded, man. I. I take it. [01:33:20] Speaker B: But I like. I take. I have a lot of binding matters I want to touch on. [01:33:23] Speaker A: But please. I'll be back. I'll be back on Thursday. Tomorrow we have uncle who will be here Tuesday and Wednesday. And I will be back on Thursday, Friday and Monday. [01:33:34] Speaker B: Listen to me before I go, this might have to be. [01:33:39] Speaker A: Okay, I will take a note and when I return, we can talk about it. [01:33:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:45] Speaker A: Okay. Thank you so much. NHIA has yet to pay its providers the outstanding funds for July 60% outstanding nor the outstanding for August 100%. I heard the white smoke from vehicles is even more dangerous than the black. Maybe someone could probably teach us about that. I listened to 52 more than Anton. We all know Anton has an agenda behind him. And we know 52 is the average man on the street. DeWitt is a party man. Ask Mr. Lang how is Freeport booming? Well, you know Mr. Lang is on another show. That's the show after this, which will be Z Line, which is coming up in a few minutes. And you can feel free to ask Mr. Lang good day, Guardian. Stop doing crap. Anton had free reign and everybody else you cut who making sense. So this person want me to know that I must see like Anton. But I know I ain't like that. I like that. Now you see what I do when I told Darwin watch when I open up this door, what can happen and what has happened exactly what we think was going to happen. This is why I tell you people one minute. So when I say one minute again and I cut you and I cut everybody. I don't want to uncry to me, man. Because you see this is any problem in the country we made the laws, we bend them just a little bit so you could smile. And then you're still mad with me for letting you bend the rules. So I ain't bending no more. This tree don't bend. Caller, go ahead. [01:35:11] Speaker B: Hey, what's happening guys? [01:35:13] Speaker A: How are you doing? Good, my brother. [01:35:14] Speaker B: See, I gotta let you talk about God. I really would like to know exactly which part irritate me. These people who don't know nothing about God, Mama. They hear a little rumors about grandma and then they call with the information against gospel. [01:35:26] Speaker C: I guess. Could it be that his section is booming? I guess. [01:35:29] Speaker B: Say it again. [01:35:30] Speaker C: Where he is is booming. [01:35:32] Speaker B: Believe it in a grandmama. If you want to take the industrial sector away from grandmama, you may still pull the plug and cut the light off. [01:35:39] Speaker C: So you have not seen the benefit of what's going on at celebration key. [01:35:44] Speaker B: That is not because of celebration Key. Now Port Lakai is even a ghost town. Even more of a ghost town. [01:35:50] Speaker C: More of a ghost town. Okay. [01:35:52] Speaker B: Freeport harbor is even more of a ghost town. That traffic that used to go to celebrate day the Port Lakaya and the harbor. [01:36:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:36:00] Speaker B: It's now going. [01:36:01] Speaker A: Wow. [01:36:02] Speaker B: So the taxi drivers take them bleeding. [01:36:04] Speaker C: So Celebration key. So are you able to go on to celebration key even though you didn't come on the carnival cruise that came there? [01:36:14] Speaker B: Listen, I cannot go to celebration key by day pass with me and my family. I cannot go unless I wake them. [01:36:19] Speaker C: Gotcha. [01:36:21] Speaker B: So you know, these people need to get it right. Man. If you take away the industrial sector and grandmama we never had an issue with the industrial sector. The industrial sector for the callers who don't know, that's Freeport harbor, the shipyard, that's Bcotina, Port Bradford, Marine bomber Rock still there. Areas like those, Freeport power, that's the industrial sector. We never had issue with the industrial sector. We never. The only complaint we got about the industrial sector is about the work permit that you give to these foreigners to come in and work. Tell these people stop wanting to talk show talk and foolish. [01:36:55] Speaker A: Well, I love the people of Grant and I'm wishing all the people of Grand Muhammad well as we continue continue to push towards a better nation. I got another text here. Mr. Thompson, all that talk still does not show that high population equates to a successful economy. It rather stretches and stresses the economy. Be real. Is this fair to the Bayman taxpayers? Darvin Goss, can you google then question if a high population equates to economic growth or success? Please do. This is from 52 caller. Go ahead quickly as we wrap up. Running out of time. Go ahead. [01:37:29] Speaker C: Last caller. [01:37:31] Speaker B: Listening to the caller just now talk about the celebration key thing. [01:37:34] Speaker C: Yes sir. [01:37:35] Speaker B: I mean you're going to have positive sides, you're going to have negative side. As I commute throughout the community and I look around I see hundreds of persons that over the years in Grand Bahama that weren't employed dress and celebration key and they're in the liquor stores, the food store. [01:37:52] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:37:53] Speaker B: Taking the money that they make down in Celebration Key and they're investing it right back into the community. So, I mean, everybody's gone. Not everybody's ever going to be happy. [01:38:04] Speaker C: That's a fair point. [01:38:05] Speaker B: Celebration Key, it's positive and it has its negative side. It's just what you want to be focused on. And those taxi drivers, yes, they're complaining, yes, they can go down there, but they have to understand that Celebration Key made a major financial investment and its priority is Celebration Key and making their funding back. [01:38:28] Speaker C: Thank you, sir. Appreciate your contribution. [01:38:30] Speaker A: Like 52 said, I can remember when one or two persons would pass with a weed whacker. Now, at least 6 to 7 would in the mornings. [01:38:39] Speaker C: You know, Garth, before we go, one of the things that I always have to admonish people periodically is I want Bahamians to recognize that your experience is not a universal experience. [01:38:52] Speaker A: I like that. [01:38:53] Speaker C: Just because you are catching l doesn't mean that everybody is catching out. Just because that investment didn't work for you doesn't mean that it isn't working for everybody. Any or anybody else, I think. You know, I always used to tell my staff, you know, you can walk and chew gum at the same time. Two things can be true. You know, Celebration Key can be beneficial and it benefits four or five hundred people, and it can also be detrimental if it affects taxi drivers in that way. Both of those things are true. Be your own lived experience. But you do not want to extrapolate that across the board to say it's either good or bad. But on measure, depending upon what the measurement is, it's probably a positive thing from an economic perspective for the island. So what we need is more balance. So you need now economic activity in Freeport proper that will help augur and support what Celebration Key has brought to the table. But this was Guardian Radio today. You were listening to Garth and Darvin. [01:39:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I want to get this last 2 tax in there quickly. Yeah, just squeeze them in there. Brother Garth, whenever there's consistent industrial unrest in the Bahamas, if it'll not go well for the sitting government, no matter how well your performance was before the general election, 2026, the people are ready to execute something. So beware of fooling politicians. Jehovah, God is on the move, Brother Garth and Darwin, every time when an Anton calls a talk show, he is sometimes speaking as what the Prime Minister should be saying and doing, not setting out our country, hence the Bahamas as a British is not a relationship with the French who cares for none other than themselves. Wow. Think Bahamas, think again. And then I'm not going to read the rest of that one and then the last one is Good day. What is the update on Resolve, Bob? A number of politicians and influences were included on the delinquency list. Listen, you people know how to talk but I love when you talk. I love you people. I want you to have a great day on the job and those people listening in the office who love Guardian Radio today with G M Roseborough and Darwin Russell. We thank you, we thank you all. We love when you say hello to us, when you see us on the streets, you see us in your businesses, we want to be a part of you because you're a part of us. Take care. Have a great day and we'll see you next time. [01:41:24] Speaker B: I'm gonna make a change. It's gonna feel real good. [01:41:32] Speaker A: Just live yourself.