Guardian Radio Today - June 10 2026

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This is your host, your favorite host, the one, the only, Gabby. Welcome to Guardian Radio Today. I am delighted to be in your company. It's Wednesday again, y'. All. I can't believe it. It feels like it was just yesterday when I was here telling you about my amazing trip to Eleuthera and Harbor island and Spanish Wells. And it's a wonderful time talking about that. And I feel like it was just yesterday that I was telling you about how the F and M is going to wait 16 months. Well, purported to potentially wait 16 months before they have a convention. Feels like it was just yesterday. But you know what, let me get the protocol out of the way quickly so we can get in what happened yesterday. So today's conversation I so happy for you to be a part of. 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Register now at GDC GD cancersupport group.com that's GD cancers support group.com Y' all so much things that h happen. I don't even know where to start. Wow. Yesterday. Let's start with yesterday. So y' all know I like a good story time. Yesterday I decided that I would go to the House of Assembly. I haven't been there in a while. From time to time I do sit in the gallery and listen to the contributions of members and as they debate various bills that are being tabled in the House. And I haven't been there for a while because some seats are hard. They creaky. It just gives me like spooky vibes coming up the stairs. I just feel like I'm about to fall through it. I mean I just try to avoid having to spend long periods of time in the gallery of those of us. I mean it's not comfortable to do so I feel like they need to break out that they probably try to lynch me for this, but I feel like they need to break out that whole smoker's room or like eating the thing is we doing in there and upgrade that and make that a nice add that to the nice sitting gallery. That way they can add a bathroom for the speaker so the speakers also can stop complaining about not having a bathroom there. Their chamber if they do a little bit of modifications around there, they can really make the House of Assembly. I know it's a historic building, but I mean come on, we have to do something with that. The creaky chairs. Does the chairs need to be historic as well? Prehistoric. I mean, come on. I is sitting at with the faith of Job that my bottom ain't gonna break it and I ain't gonna be embarrassing there. I I really is wondering how some of y' all is going there and and I smile. I you know, I little skinny and I just be going in there and I I just gently ease down on the chair and I just say God, please don't let the chair break because this video before long before my time. And so yesterday I sat in Parliament and I got goosebumps. As the member of Parliament for Freetown, Mr. Lincoln deal gave his maiden contribution to the House. I mean, it was such a joy to witness because when we're looking at a time when persons are tuning out of listening, they feel underrepresented, especially the youth, they feel underserved. Persons have gotten opportunities in the past and quite panned out. So you have the anticipation for this speech and for this contribution. That person. And can I tell you all that he did not disappoint. I am going to bring in as well. My guest walked into the studio who's going to be joining me today, and I'm going to invite him into this. I really want to hear his feedback. I'll let him say hello to you, but I want to hear his feedback because. So, I mean, I sat there and the room felt airy. It felt like the purpose of a member of Parliament, not to say that everyone. People are calling me and be like, so whatever. It felt like his contribution felt so balanced, so constituency focused. So I came here to represent a group of people and this is what they told me as I walked the streets to knock on their doors. These are the challenges that they're facing. So this is my contribution to this budget debate for them, not for myself and my personal gains or whatever personal feelings I have towards it. He also was hackled a bit by members of the opposite side, but he still, he stayed steadfast. He engaged in some light banter with them. I mean, he. It was light hearted. It was. It brought a renewing of contributions for me to the House. And when I tell you I ran into some young people who was talking about it like I washed the house again. Can I tell y', all, I felt. I felt hopeful again. Mandel, welcome to the. Welcome to the show. Welcome. Tell the people, hi. Tell them what you thought about. [00:09:23] Speaker C: Always a pleasure to be here at my home here at Guardian Radio. It's always a pleasure to be here. But, you know, on your invite, in terms of yesterday's presentation from the member of Freetown, he being somebody that we mutually know and work along with, I must say I was greatly impressed by his presentation. I have long looked for a leader that has the ability to humanize their mental message, is what I call it. And when I say that, what I mean is we have a lot of leaders that understand what's going on, but do not know how to communicate it in a way that the average amongst us and the lowly amongst us, the most populated amongst us in some cases, or the voiceless amongst us in a lot of cases, are able to connect with their message. And that's what I was looking for in the member for Freetown's presentation day. And he hit it like from the beginning straight to the end, from the elderly right down to I think the only thing he didn't address was the fetus in the womb. But he touched everything outside of his presentation. What I did take note of intentional not to go and look in the early part of the evening. Yesterday I waited till late night and more so this morning just to see what kind of public feedback persons would have shared. And to my surprise, I saw my music teacher. Now I'm in my 40s. This is my high school music teacher, [00:11:05] Speaker B: so he is at least 60 plus [00:11:08] Speaker C: and he's also the president of an administrative union here in the country. Speak about the member for Freetown's presentation and how as a citizen of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas, he was moved and felt hopeful by the presentation that the member for Freetown gave. And so for me, I would hope that this is a time like you said, a lot of young people are saying, man, I can tune in next time. Today I started to ask one or two people, did you get a chance to hear him or anything like that? And a lot of people said that, no. But I'm going to go and listen because I'm hearing people and I'm seeing people online talk about it. And the funny thing about, about, about the member for Freetown is I think he came to be to light politically in his party as a result of a speech that he gave at a convention, I'm told at some point in time, in his very early years, somewhere around the age of 16 or something like that maybe. And so I was really looking forward to, like you say, his maiden presentation yesterday. And he did not disappoint, I must say. And I hope that he's able to stay in that kind of delivery. And it almost made me feel like I wish my representatives in my constituency was able to communicate the needs of our constituents like he did. And again, like I said, he did it in a way that made people feel like this person is completely here Zen the people in his constituency. And he I don't know if it's his tune, his delivery, but people felt what he said. And I could even the speaker herself, she said my hair might have been down, but I was listening. Boy, [00:13:01] Speaker B: she took a. Because usually the speaker sits upright, right? But we have a peculiar speaker in a very peculiar speech. [00:13:11] Speaker C: I love her. [00:13:12] Speaker B: I get the deep the weeds of that today. But we have a peculiar speech speaker because usually the speaker sits upright as they deliberate the proceedings go of the house. And she took hand to the chin to lean over very much in tuned with what he was saying so she wouldn't have missed anything like she may have missed a. Because. Because a present day, a presentation or two before she didn't hear what a certain member had to say. But this one, she heard every word [00:13:45] Speaker C: and she said it herself said I listened to every word. And so I just want to commend the member for Freetown in, in. In his maiden, like you say, his maiden voyage and hope that he's able to stay on that kind of wicked representation and most of all stay humble As a young person. Leadership is about preparation, in my opinion. And I believe that as a generation a time will come when in a greater fashion we'll have an opportunity to really show the kind of support that we have for leaders such as Lincoln and many others. Because I love the young lady that's in the Senate d', Asante, a number of young leaders that we have emerging. I believe our country is going to be in great hands when these young leaders take the reins of leadership nationally in our country and in their parties. [00:14:41] Speaker B: So let's invite our callers, of course, to be a part of the conversation because I want to get deeper from that speech into some boosters inspired yesterday. So calling. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby and Mandel. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Gabby and Mandel, good afternoon. [00:14:56] Speaker B: Good afternoon, Gabby. [00:14:59] Speaker A: I just came from that same hallowed chambers about two days ago sitting in the Parliament. So I can identify it readily with your description of what you experience in the gallery. Sitting in that gallery for quite some time now. I can say with confidence that I now understand the urgency to the Parliament into a new building because I think that that space now has become very tight. I believe that now to allow more Bahamian citizens to come in and actually listen to the proceedings, we need a lot more space in there to allow comfortable seating and proper chairs. And two, while I'm on that vein, also Lincoln Deal, who I know him, he personally, I know his parents personally. They're very good friends of mine. And he is one of the most aspiring young politicians in this country. A breath of fresh air that we need to see. And you know it, then you know it just encourages the other young persons using him as a. Not a mentor, but using him as an example of what politics can possibly be going forward. You know, I believe that he can be that lightning rod, that inspiration for others to aspire to want to help to build the country from a nationalistic standpoint and not a political party standpoint. So I'm going to go on record today to publicly say to Lincoln, deal, you know, congratulations on the excellent work that you're doing. Congratulations to his parents for raising a standard bearer of a man in this country. And I believe that the country is going to be in good hands if we could find 40 more good persons such as he is to represent us in our parliament, even after we would have gone, our children would then be the recipients of the gift that they bring forward. So thanks for taking my call, Gabby. [00:17:05] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you so much. [00:17:06] Speaker A: I'll continue to listen to. [00:17:07] Speaker B: Thank you so much, Jeff. I want to get the next call on the line. Caller, you're live on Guy Today with Gabby. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Hello, [00:17:15] Speaker B: caller. Okay, there's some powerful words and Mandela I actually want, I want to take those words from Jeff and lead into some of the discussion I wanted us to have today. And on the flip side of Lincoln Deals, but before I because I also wanted to acknowledge that Jay Leo Ferguson also gave his maiden presentation today, his maiden contribution. His was done today. I was able to catch a portion, a beginning portion of it, but I was getting ready to head out to head to the studio and do some things. So I didn't catch it in its entirety, but a very strong voice, a very strong voice. And in case people don't know who he is, he's the son of the [00:18:06] Speaker C: late John Lee Ferguson, former senator John Lee Ferguson. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Yes. And he who previously ran in my car and was unable to secure the seat, in fact, when he lost by how much votes were now about four, I think it was, it was tight. It was about four votes. [00:18:23] Speaker C: They say Mr. John Lee was so close that they thought he was the member of Parliament. [00:18:28] Speaker B: It was a tight race. [00:18:29] Speaker C: And so for me, even with that particular candidate or now member of Parliament in Mr. Leo Ferguson, I've been trying to anticipate what kind of feeling that gives his family. And when I say his family, it's not about it ought to be about that we serve. But in reality of the life we live, some of the first service we're gonna give is to the people closest to us. That's where we get the receipts from, actually. And so let's just be honest with it. And so for me, I've been trying to just fathom how does his family feel to know that he has been able to cross that threshold that dad did not make it and what kind of feeling, that inspiration that gives to his family and friends and other people that knew Mr. Ferguson, he was an amazing educator in our country, and people supported his run for parliament. And so now to see his son fill those shoes and even cross that threshold into Parliament, it's something that I've really thought about a lot. But again, being someone from my Cal, I desperately want to hear what the member of Parliament in Mr. Ferguson at [00:19:44] Speaker B: the time, so he already. I can tell you, he already started to hear, hit out and talk about just the beauty untouched of the island. And with a little bit of infrastructural updates, making sure that the transportation to the islands are reliable. I mean, I've been to almost every island in In Ma, and the fish there are so big, they just die old age. [00:20:11] Speaker C: The people tell me it's called bass kept secret. [00:20:14] Speaker B: So y' all talking about y' all as boatmen and seamen, the biggest fish y' all is be selling me these little snapper when I gotta be getting the bone stuck all in my throat because. Because they so small. You all need to go down south. The fish, they're dying old age. Okay. [00:20:30] Speaker C: And Leo, Mr. Ferg, I. I happen to know him personally and. And so affectionately. Listen to me. And so a lot of us, we. We call him Leo. And. And for me, my introduction to him was someone had sent me a video of this gentleman being kind of escorted to the airport by residents in Inagua being from Inaugural. I said, let me see who this is and look and find out. And when I looked in the video, knowing my community, I saw people of all political persuasion in the video. And so I was like, okay, who this guy is? And then when I got some answers, they said, he's the senior officer that's being transferred. And the people don't want him to leave, but they. They have no. They can't force him. They can't make him stay. But they wanted to ensure that he got the kind of send off they felt he deserved, based on the level of human investment that he made to the community. In Machu town, Mr. Ferguson, during his tenure as the. As a senior officer down there, he's not a native of Inaugural or nothing, just by virtue of being there and just being the person that he is, adopted an entire graduating class. And all of the children in that class, male and female, almost call him daddy or papa or this, that or the next. And he does his best to ensure that those young people, wherever their life pursuits take them, are able to get some form of assistance or stay in connection with him or able to excel in life. And so to see that even with some of the seniors in my community in Nagua, the kind of affection that they had for him, that's the level of representation I believe Bahamians all across the length and breadth of our country now want to see, regardless of which party they support. What I'm hearing more as you go about and maneuver during election season, people are concerned about representation. The kind of representation representation that not only I could reach them when I call them, but representation that's connected with me that even when I called what my needs are. And so I think him being someone whose family is descended from Auckland's. Mr. Ferguson also was born in Maicana and so it's like Mical is in his DNA. And I look forward to the kind of leadership that he brings to mycal. We've long since the days of Mr. Vernon Simonet, we've long desired for someone. Mr. Gray did an awesome job as well. Someone who also resides in Maiqal and lives there there has residents in my cal. But the people of Mai Kal are very unique in terms of wanting their own to represent them just for the mere need that when you hear about Inagua Megana they say that's behind God back way down there. So if you don't have someone that represents us, that understands us lives us live what we live, they know it is to go in the lake pump and the light O's pump the cat shot and bony sticker and do these kinds and live the kind of life we live down there or go for the thing, the Madera Bach and different things. If you don't know the life we live in Maikal, you won't know how to truly represent us. And so again, I look forward to Mr. Ferguson's representation and I just want to see what they'll do. [00:23:53] Speaker B: Speaking of representation, I want to point out while we're on this, before I move off of this particular topic, the lackluster behavior of many of the member Parliaments. I was just taken aback by persons asleep for like literally asleep in parliament. I mean, acting as though they were you. You want. You expect the children to. To behave a particular way, but they were doing the absolute most, we would say, just doing the absolute most. Like I can understand moments of fanfare and sharing and even jarring. Right. But it seemed to be a completely disruptive time when they say that they are conducting the people's business, serious business, and we're going to be doing this and that on your behalf. And half of the time persons are doing every and anything else they're not Giving their colleagues any type of respect. Respect by listening or even taking notes of what they're saying so that they can properly refute anything that may not be true. They're not. It's just, it was just like a little. It was like the party when you, when the teacher in there, when the teacher go to the classroom and everybody just start. [00:25:19] Speaker C: I mean nobody taking names, nobody. Yesterday for the opening of the House I, I had the opportunity to hear the chaplain. I caught it that early that even if you're listening to ZNS like I was 104, I listened to the chaplain as he did his daily devotion with the House. And yesterday he spoke about empathy. Empathy. Yes, you were in there. He spoke about empathy. And I think a lot of our leaders, I would like to recommend a book for them to read called the Spirit of leadership by Dr. Miles Monroe. One of the first lines in this book, it says that the pillars of leadership. The pillars of leadership stand on inspiration and motivation. When you're not inspiring or motivating the people, you are not leading. And I think there's a misunderstanding that happens either intentionally or unintentionally with a lot of our members of Parliament in terms of it's become too common to them. You know, there's this thing they call about the career politicians. [00:26:37] Speaker B: Uh huh, [00:26:39] Speaker C: yes. Being in parliament for I believe a lot of our leaders has become so commonplace that I tired listening to all of this that the next. And so I only hear for when it's time for me to give my contribution and move on. I'm consumed by so many different things and I think that is something that we as a people ought to look at and gauge and make a determination on when we think that, you know, Gabby, your representation for the last five years has been stellar and so based on our belief as a people, you ain't got regardless of your party sending information or not, you ain't going back in Parliament. And so we, I think the time is coming or we're upon that time where as a people we need to make. [00:27:27] Speaker B: I think people are going to start to be in this season even more critical. [00:27:31] Speaker C: See in a leader, we don't love the Parliament. [00:27:33] Speaker B: You watch them, they just there. And it's the same way because they carry these things throughout their duties and throughout their constituency. Lackluster in Parliament, lackluster in the constituencies. [00:27:45] Speaker C: A lot of our sitting parliamentarians are lodge members and there's a scripture in Lodge that I hear a lot of people use or quote said, oh how sweet it is for brothers to dwell together. For it is like oil that flows for Moses, bare down to the hem of his garment. Well, I believe that the spirit of leadership is exactly that. In its essence. Whatever you as the leader possess is what will flow from you, the head, right down to your constituents. And as we talk about people being disengaged from our politics, being tired of either the fnm, the PLP, or any other thing, UBP or any other thing, this behavior contributes to it, that's what you're putting out by when someone takes the time out in their house or at work to sit and listen to the proceedings. That's what's emanating from your representation. And so we need some of our leaders, we need to check some of them, and we need them to check themselves and understand what it is that they're giving out, what's causing this voter empathy to exist in the way that it does. [00:28:50] Speaker B: I want to take this call. And then when we come back, we're going to switch gears into what I, what I wanted to talk about today, which was a part of the headlines. So I encourage you to grab your copy of today's Guardian newspaper because, you know, at some point we're going to dissect and we're going to get into the headlines. So calling your live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby and Mandel. Oh, hi. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Hi, Gabby. Now you know us. [00:29:19] Speaker B: Good. How are you? Spocky? [00:29:21] Speaker A: Right here to your friend. Oh, how sweet and pleasant it is for brothers to tell together in unity, like the sweet oil that travels from Aaron's bed down to his ends of his garment. I remember. I hear you. [00:29:35] Speaker C: I, I learned that in the Church of God. A prophecy. Machu town in Nago, Spocky. I never crossed no threshold. I never crossed no threshold. I never do none of these above. But no, sir, but I trust. I trust. I trust in He. I trust in the Lord. I trust in the Lord. And so I just want to make that clear. [00:30:00] Speaker A: Gabby, when you look at, I listen to you, I'm in the. I'm, I'm, I, I went through, let's put it, I am 31 days older than the prime minister, brother Philip Edward Brave. When I was going to Eastern St. With him, we just know him as Phil, but we know he's Philip Edward. Now, I don't know when the Braves started, but see, he get him and fight and I lose. I don't know, he might have been like David, but the Rock didn't hit Goliath. I don't know. God let me Tell you something, I went through the pending age. The bird was 75, you know, I was 75, made a port the month before him. I went through the Pinland time, Independence time, the rolling Sunday time. I went through all of them different times. And like you said, I watched the House of Assembly yesterday. I'm sort of like a little invalid right now. I can walk there, but I need a walker to help me walk. But I watched. I've been seeing the change in the House of Assembly with the younger people who going in for the first time and the comments, their attitudes. And I believe they coming from the heart. I believe most of them coming from the heart. See the older ones, like some of them we know they still have that law talk. Always law, law, law, always Rowan, Rowan, Rowan. The same like they really talking about the people of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. And that's the people who are the bosses and they are said to be our servants. But as soon as they put on and hold that Bible and become family to the king, they become our bosses. And when we talk about the House of Assembly, Gabby, I've never been 75 years. I've never been in light those halls. And one of the things I must say most of these government places, like one time ago, I was representing the Bahamas in volleyball on the volleyball place National Day. I could have run up and down them steps and stuff. And if you got a wheelchair or walker, you can't walk up there. You're 75 years old, you go to these lodges. The old people can't go to lodge no more. I told him when I was 24, build elevators because if I walk over to see the chairman of Parks and Beaches, he got to come down in the lobby to me because I can't get up to his office. I can't get up in the house of 76 like y' all and watch. I can't get up in some of these places. When the architects and the contractors and the ministry of work, they okay these plans and don't even think about how invalid the b, you know, poor people, old people to get in to have meeting with the people that they begging to help them. You understand what I'm saying, Gabby? [00:33:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:02] Speaker A: And it's a shame in 2026, I wonder if they build a new house in 70, why does it have to be right there in Parliament in Rockton Square? And if I go, if I'm still old enough, if I get to go [00:33:16] Speaker B: with it, can I get upset for accessibility purposes? We've definitely been talking about that more being a more inclusive society. Stop parking in the blue parking spot. It's not for you. You could walk. You have mobility. Leave that for the people who it for. Listen, we have to take a quick break and when we come back, we're gonna switch gears into what I wanted to talk about today, just for a portion of today's show. And then later in the show we could talk about some of the good things happening down there in Exuma and are they progressing and the progress that people are purporting to see. We'll be right back on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Giant slices, perfectly baked, foldable Marcos is bringing New York to your Neighborhood for just 19.95 meet the Marco's New Yorker Pizza. Built with Marco's fresh dough, rich sauce and fresh never frozen three cheese blend, this is pizza the New York way. If you can't fold it, it's a is it really New York style? Go big fold it. Love it. Big slices, big flavor. The New Yorker Pizza now at Marco's for 19.95. 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It's a beautiful Wednesday afternoon in the capital of Nassau, New Providence, and of course, the studio situated on Oaks Field. We are just, you know, talking about Parliament paying, you know, homage to the, to the great contributions that were given yesterday and today by the newer members of Parliament and the expectation of leadership. Speaking of leadership and contributions, have you picked up your copy of today's Nassau Guardian? Because Loroder says, I strongly disapprove of prison commissioner's comments amid backlash and calls for the resignation of Commissioner of Corrections. How do you pronounce his name? Dawn? Claire yeah, that's what it is. Dawn Clare, who holds new female recruits to a harsher standard than male recruits. Minister of National Security Miles Larota stated that he strongly disagrees with Claire's statement. During a ceremony for the newest cohort of Squad A corrections officers on Monday, Claire told female recruits that they could be quickly fired after making a mistake while saying that he would have more patience for male recruits. I shall end the reading there. That's the reading I wanted to put into your hearing today. That will guide a portion of today's conversation in the news. The prison Commissioner issued an official apology to his comments. But what a statement has sparked is what I really wanted to talk about today. In a society where women are leading just about everywhere, in every corner, this. Is this by choice or is this because of the lack thereof of men to step forward? It starts really at the, in the homes where everything starts, the birthplace. It takes two man and a woman to create a child. Yet we often see more than 50% of our population, single parent households, which encompasses a single mother. Now, does that mean that only the mother needs to wear that child because her and the father is no longer together? No, that's what it often translates to. My best friend and I were having heated discussion with a gentleman by the name of Tim. Hello, Tim. Good afternoon. If you're listening, while we were down there in Eleuthera, Tim is married, has children and we were having a conversation about the role of men and the importance and what it means to be a good father, I guess you can say, because Tim was adamant that he was a good father, you know, and he was, he could do anything that his wife can do and he Is, you know, totally and completely involved in everything. And, you know, he takes care of his daughter and we love that. For Tim, the issue with Tim's statement came when Tim told us he made this a sweeping generalization that this is all these men around. Basically, that's what, that's what Tim was saying. The majority of the men around, they are great fathers. And it's the woman fault. This is what Tim tell us. It's woman fault. Y' all is the problem. Y' all don't want these men to be involved. Y' all want this. Y' all on that X, Y and Z. You are crazy. You know, they love that. That's a favorite word. This woman crazy. Why would you want to have a crazy person? Is was my first initial question. It takes two persons. You just found out she was crazy before, after you inseminated her with your semen. Which, when, when did you find out she was crazy and unfit to be your child's mother? Before, after the intercourse. So that was the first issue with, with Tim's statement. Then you know that this crazy woman is rearing your child and you decide that you could leave the child with the crazy woman. You could leave the woman and you could leave the child who you purport to love and can do everything for. And the argument of another gentleman that was present, he said, santi, Santi, say no, man. It's to the process. It's too much to go through. It's too much. It's too much. You have to go through. You have to go through this and you have to go through that. So you know your child with a crazy woman or crazy person and your excuse for not being there or being involved and not taking responsibility for that child is because the process is too difficult. It's too much for you. It's too much to bear to go through a process to say, to tell, to go before our magistrate, justice or whomever, family court, and say that I am the fit parent in this case to rear this child. It's too much. It's too much for you. But it's convenient when you could be a part time daddy, because that's what a lot of you are. Part time daddy. If you ask, you ask a lot of the men right now if that child has an allergy. A lot of them don't even know that the child allergic to nuts. There's a good daddy. A lot of them feel like, yeah, I take my child to school, I drop them off, I pick them up, I do these things. So, you know, I'm a great parent. But are you involved in the rearing process? You know your child's blood type, you know your child's favorite food, because guess what? If a mother don't know that the child have an allergy, you say, you'll say, that's a bad mother, what kind of mother that is. And here starts our problem. Manela, I won't bring you in yet because you. I want you come in. It's a touching one, but I. I go in because I want to connect this to what the commissioner had to [00:45:18] Speaker C: say about the male role of the male. [00:45:22] Speaker B: I want you to see how the. The deterioration starts, the state of fatherlessness, the corrosion starts at the household. You leave your child, even your male child, for the woman to raise and figure out what type of man he needs to be or how doing the best she can be. And you make every excuse in the book for why you cannot stay with the male child. And some of the reasons also include because she really chooses not to be in bed with you anymore. You choose that you. You go abandon that family and some even choose to go make another family. Because if you can't stay with me, forget you. I could go make another boy somewhere else. And we have the brokenness. And here the process starts right here, right there in the family. We blame everyone else for the wolves and the ills of society. We gotta start at the foundation of where the child was created, where the men are supposed to be created, where they are supposed to be read and brought up to be the leaders that you say they are called to be. [00:46:47] Speaker C: And the challenge with that, Gabby, is [00:46:49] Speaker B: that as a nation, I know y' all could get on me. [00:46:51] Speaker C: Now, as a nation, we. We have not truly addressed the state of fatherlessness in our country. It's ironic that we find ourselves here in this conversation with this scenario with the commissioner of the prison, as we just days out from Father's Day, the former Minister of National Security in the person of Dr. Bernard Nottage. Dr. Bernard Nottage is one of the few individuals I know that has done a study on fatherlessness and being the product of fatherlessness, of not having my father in the home, my biological father. I understand the role that a lot of our mothers play in the development of our families, our homes, and our country at large. And so for me, I've long desired for our country to have a balanced conversation about this, because trying to have it in a way. There's a caller earlier that said there's a gender war that we're going through. I understand what he trying to say, but that's still in the right context because that in itself can create a war. So we need to find a more amicable way, like how we say when we break it up and then get on the board, find a more shared way to have the conversation about parenting. Share parenting voices, single motherless and single fatherlessness and, and all these different aspects. Parenting is what we need to happen. [00:48:15] Speaker B: I want to, I want to squeeze this call in before we go to the news and of course we're going to pick this up after the break. Caller, you're live on Guardian Radio with Gabby. [00:48:22] Speaker A: Gabby, how you doing? [00:48:23] Speaker B: I'm great. You come to baptize me? I only spark in the conversation, you know, hey, listen. [00:48:31] Speaker A: Yeah, listen, Gabby, I grew up in a home with mother and father. [00:48:34] Speaker B: Uhhuh, right. [00:48:35] Speaker A: Let me tell you something. If you have a strong woman in that house, you have a strong home, you have strong kids. You know something, my father never beat me, but my mother always beat or used to beat her. We can mother my mother beating us. You won't get between them, between us. So, woman, let me tell you something. When it comes to sun, women are more attached to their sons than their daughters. You understand me? And if you have a strong woman in any of whether the father present there or not, and that woman is strong, them kids are going to be some great kids. Trust me, Gabby. [00:49:08] Speaker B: But can a woman raise. My question to you is, can a woman raise a man to be a man? [00:49:14] Speaker C: I think we have many, many women that have made raised amazing men in this country. [00:49:19] Speaker A: Somebody, you know, women would be much more open with their kids than what a man would be their kids, you know, you know, and most in most instant. But you know, like, like I said, what happened to Gabby? I look at the school, I ride past a school the other day in the south and if you see how these children like these children look at old people, they hear picky and what the government needs to be done, they start, you know, it start from home. But when you get in these schools and how these children dress and how [00:49:41] Speaker B: did their parents do, man, you send them to school looking like that. We gotta run to the break. I'll invite you to call back as we continue the conversation. We have to run to news. We'll be right back on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. I'd like to think you feel the same. [00:50:12] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, your station for [00:50:15] Speaker B: up to the minute news and intelligent, [00:50:17] Speaker A: interactive and engaging conversations. 96.9 FM. [00:50:32] Speaker B: 96.9 FM. Guardian Radio today somebody call a leader of the woman. Name the new leader. I put him on a better trial run. I put him. Y'. [00:50:44] Speaker C: All. [00:50:44] Speaker B: Latray Ramen has been auditioning for the lead of the Woman. I mean, initially I was starkly against it. I said latre, you cannot lead the woman. Damn. I don't know about this. I don't know, but I'm gonna put you on a beta. You know, it's when they say it's a battle, it ain't a full version of the thing. There's a trial run. This is a test run. And if you don't pass this tech. Listen, any form of love bombing, gas lighting and manipulation, you terminate it. Fired, you're gone. Okay, this is a test. [00:51:17] Speaker C: Someone believe on. Tell me what is he what you call leave on. [00:51:22] Speaker B: Say he don't know how Latrae could be the leader the woman there. But I tell. I tell Yvonne we're putting his application out to public consultation because Latray been applying pressure. So I had to give him. [00:51:36] Speaker C: You see what Latre laid out yesterday. [00:51:38] Speaker B: That's. That's. That's why I had to pronounce interim. Well, not interim. It's a beta test because I know but that I know if he really love us like that. [00:51:47] Speaker C: Look. Yeah, you gotta really love him. From what I know about the woman. Them as long as things in the equation as far as they concerned, they secure leading the race with the things latrae said he got three scholarship I. [00:52:01] Speaker B: I promote Nim let him compare to come on the show to promote what he giving out. No, no, no, no. He ain't getting. That's as much as he could get from me. That's as much as he could get from me. You get cut off right there. Cut the music. He done. You're finished. That's enough. [00:52:15] Speaker A: That's enough. [00:52:16] Speaker C: I want to hear the leader them. The what is he? [00:52:18] Speaker B: I'd like he's the. The better. The better version we have him tap. I'd like to have his comments on this. If you're listening. [00:52:27] Speaker C: I really want to hear call into [00:52:29] Speaker B: the show because we'd love to hear how you feel about this. But before we went to break, we had a call on the line and Texas, I'm gonna get to you because I already see the shots coming. And I wanted to really stir your emotions today for this conversation of really all of these things starting in the household and the lack thereof and fathers choosing to abandoned their placements causing it to have a spiraling and a trickling effect because it has an effect on women as well, who don't get to see that side of how they should be courted, loved, how they should treat a man because the man was never around to be. Every time they hear mommy talk about the man, he didn't even send no money for you this week. [00:53:18] Speaker C: Gabby, should there be any consideration for how a mother treats a father? Let's take it a little bit beyond just gender, male and female. And I said to my wife last night, I said, I remember Boys brigade is what taught us how we ought to coexist as male and female. But I'm wondering if we're training our loved ones or any kind of way of how to respect each other even in our various roles in other. [00:53:43] Speaker B: So let's say I found the caller's [00:53:45] Speaker C: mind in a shared way. I don't think we're approaching this conversation about parenting in, in the responsible way that we should call her. [00:53:52] Speaker B: You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. Good to be Gabby and Mandel. Yeah. [00:54:00] Speaker A: Now, Gabby, I hear you. Yes, I hear you. [00:54:03] Speaker C: I trying to hear too call. I trying to let her have us say. [00:54:06] Speaker B: I just want you all to know what I say. No, you're y' all hear me, but are y' all listening? I'm not saying that this is a, is a, is a man problem, but I need you all to understand what is happening as a result of your absence. [00:54:21] Speaker C: Gabby. And here's what. [00:54:22] Speaker B: As well. [00:54:23] Speaker C: Here's what we would like for you and every other woman to understand that we have a. If we could have this conversation in a shared approach instead of just, I need y' all to. [00:54:33] Speaker B: I get, I get, I get to the woman in a second, but y' all either. Let me get there. [00:54:37] Speaker C: We need to understand when, when you say what we need. [00:54:40] Speaker B: Let's hear what the caller has to say. Caller, go ahead. We ain't gonna interrupt you. [00:54:44] Speaker A: Okay? Now, times have changed since that approach with man used to take arms. I'm not saying that, you know, we don't still have a few men doing it, but the younger generation now, it's changed. And I believe somebody need to step forward now to change the law because the, the unmarried woman have all rights over the children. I don't think that should be so. The man can't even get a passport for his child because you need the mother's signature. These younger women today, they completely different from our mothers and auntie and grandmothers and all of that because the child is there with them. But it's just like they they upset no training. Okay. No kind of up here when. When it comes far as comes the morals, you know the cursing to carry on. This person coming in this day, the next person coming in if you know, you know and things she has complete different. So you know I look at it because I've been through it. I. I see a couple of my family members being through it and things have to change. But I understand what you're saying because we still have some of that out there but more of the male is stepping up in their children life no matter what what all they getting put through from the mother, the police harassment or you know take something change. But I understand you and I hear you. [00:56:36] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you Rich. And call. I want to get the next call on the line because the lines are loaded. I know you have a lot to say to me. So call her. You're live on Guardian Radio. [00:56:44] Speaker A: Hey Gabby, how you doing? [00:56:45] Speaker B: I'm good. How are you? [00:56:46] Speaker A: Good. Happy belated anniversary. I hope you enjoyed. [00:56:49] Speaker B: Thank you. Yes. I was to tell you all about my good anniversary too dread I tell you a lot but in sorry D. I can tell you all about that [00:56:55] Speaker A: next week but listen to me of me being secretary general of the women them I got to support Leon Miller. [00:57:04] Speaker B: Oh Jesus. [00:57:07] Speaker A: So I got. I can support Leon not train now the TR is my friend. [00:57:11] Speaker C: This is the sitting I need to put on. [00:57:15] Speaker A: You always talk not you but people in general always talk about the single mother. What about me who had my children for the last 11 years. [00:57:27] Speaker B: You make up the minority baby. [00:57:29] Speaker A: My son is now a man. He's going to be 22 this year. My. My daughter's now a woman. She's going to be 28. Their mother died 11 years ago and I had all kind of family members. But man give me your son. I got grace. Your son. I say no no, no. I raised him my son. Now my daughter end up with my sister for a while but she. She missed the father in love. She came back home and I had my children here. I never had to go to the school for my son. I never had to go around the police station for my son. Like I said my son is going 22 in August. Okay. So let's, let's, let's. I'm waiting for. [00:58:06] Speaker B: I salute you. I salute you. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Let us, let us give some. And it's not only me one. You know [00:58:13] Speaker B: children up not enough. Not enough to make up. [00:58:19] Speaker A: Gentleman said earlier I. I didn't catch his name. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Huh. [00:58:23] Speaker A: Back in the day you see the CMA some of these women running around living. [00:58:27] Speaker B: Huh. [00:58:28] Speaker A: The women in the old days used to live like that too. You know. They were very the street. [00:58:33] Speaker B: Huh. [00:58:33] Speaker A: You know when I was wrongable 10 I found out why my mommy bedroom door had a back door. [00:58:43] Speaker B: Why that didn't tell us. [00:58:45] Speaker A: I never knew why my mommy bedroom door had a back door. I never saw a man come I never saw a man come in my mommy out. I never saw my mother with a man. My mother died at the age of 87. I never saw my mother with a man. But my mommy dadrum back in the day had a back door. That's how those people lived. They look very but they said today like the gentleman say one come in the Monday they break up at Vanity and the Xboys and come in. So the children are confused and then you have some of the girls figuring that's the way you're supposed to live. 28 has been then get rid of this one. [00:59:30] Speaker B: Mm. [00:59:32] Speaker A: You know. But we have a serious problem with our men not helping to grow our children. My uncle, my uncle, my big brother. Those have raised me. I'm the last out of nine. You know that family net. It's not there I was and I'm not ashamed to say this, I was 26 years old when I knew who my daddy was. And that's my. One of my aunts took me to him because I was getting married in another three to four weeks and I wanted to invite him to the I always heard about him, but he never acknowledged me as his child. And I only wanted a picture. So when I have my children I could say, well, this was your granddaddy. He died without me getting a picture of him. That hurt me more than anything else. [01:00:17] Speaker C: Man. Sir. You touching a spot. I asked to go to church. Sir. I said I just won't go to church with you on Sunday. [01:00:24] Speaker A: I only wanted a picture. You know, I. I figured he must be doing. I wanted to come to him to ask him for something. That's my. My wedding. My van was already paid more. I wanted a picture with him and my mummy. What I could have cherished so when I have my children today, I could. But my children know my mummy. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Wow. [01:00:39] Speaker A: But they never knew my daddy. And. And. And I promise God, I gotta break that curse on my children. [01:00:44] Speaker C: Amen. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:00:45] Speaker C: Amen. [01:00:46] Speaker B: Thank you so much for your contribution to this discussion. But again, I salute you and every other father, dad man like you. What we cannot ignore is the startling statistics that exist that more than 50% of these households do not have A man in it and even, hold on, Mandela, they don't have a mat in it or anywhere around it providing guidance. You can survey right now, from the primary school to the, to the high school to the education student right now, even to us as adults, you can survey it. And me and you were having a conversation off air. And simply for some of these men, sending some money is enough. I knew your $200 for the month, whatever the court ordered me to pay, and that's as far as it goes. Because oftentimes you also get visitation writings. In some of those court situations, it [01:01:59] Speaker C: even ain't about about just a 200. If I sent 1000 and you only need 500. In some instances, again, I call it the miseducation of parenting. Not having the shared conversation about our various roles and parenting and what this child needs holistically of us. In a lot of instances where in, well, let's say I send a thousand and you only need 500, as far as I'm concerned, based on miseducation is as long as I send that money, I do in everything I doing everything that child only live with you. Is my money used to go to the food store? With is my money used by the school fee? With is my money? Is this that the next thing? And again, a lot of us as fathers or men feel or believe that that is parenting. It's not. And again, I say a shared conversation because we have had some help in feeling that way, in being led to believe that in a lot of instances, and I use my personal example, maybe it started from slavery, you know, maybe [01:03:01] Speaker B: that far back separated the men. [01:03:04] Speaker C: Gabby. All I heard my ma say, your pie ain't send her money and this, that the next. And so as a male growing up and coming into fatherhood, as far as I was concerned, money was going to define what kind of father I can be. That's where a lot of us. And that's miseducation. I'll ask you this question, I'll ask the nation the question. How many women out there, you think where the fellas say, I really, really, really ain't got it to give them cheer lunch this week? And that woman can just say, well, you know what? Here's what to do, just come drop them to school or this, that and the next, and I can take care of that. In a lot of instances, I saying it don't happen, Gabby. But in a lot of instances, if you ain't got the lunch money for them, don't come see them this week at all it just is what it is. [01:03:45] Speaker B: Let's read some of these text messages because they're definitely piling on and I love to get my taxers involved. This texter says, gabby, why you ain't talking about these gals who keep children away from their father. Boy plenty good daddy sodium and y' all and the court don't allow them to see their child no credit. You speaking from your point of view, the female point of view. Plenty women crazy in this country. I just was telling you the story. I. I just was telling you the story. Just because they can't be with the man. They want to control the only thing the man cares about, his child. All over the Bahamas this is happening. The courts are complicit, especially female judges. Who, who man leave them. What that got to do with me? Jesus text does say it. And so hold on, my neck is the text is going crazy. This text to say, Gabby, you missed understanding what Tim meant by crazy woman. What he is was saying is she will show you some of her ways you have never seen before after having a child. Now if he had a second child then that's another story because mind you, they got, they got more than one sometimes they got two, three, four children with these women who they calling crazy. So fool me once. Then what you already see how postpartum and postpartum is another thing we also don't talk about, right? What, what women also experience after a near death experience. Because that's what pregnancy is. They always say one foot in the grave and one foot out after a near death pregnancy experience, burying your child. Boy, you see how ugly some of these women is turning, turn into monsters, literally like their facial features. Everything dissolved while trying to bring forth life into this world and then to be abandoned. Maybe empathy, let's use the word empathy may be what's needed to really meet in the middle and understand the challenges that are faced. Because right now I done going through this crazy, this wild experience and my emotions are unstable. I'm in a volatile place because I don't feel as sexy as I was before. I. You you're looking at every other woman while from I was pregnant. So some of them are experiencing different situations and we're not making excuses for women. But something is happening. There's a disconnect between the man and the woman that are. That is bringing us to a place of brokenness in this country and quite frankly around the world. [01:06:27] Speaker C: And I cannot approach it from a one sided view. We must come to a mutual amicable understanding of what we as parents need to provide this child with child to grow up whole and healthy or still have some sort of insecurity here about they self or this, that or challenged in some kind of way. And so again we gotta come together that the. Yeah, you may have the child most of the time, but at the same time the presence of the father, whether he got the money or not, serves a purpose in the development of the child. [01:07:05] Speaker B: What purpose the caller thinks this is going to serve? Caller, you live on Guardian Radio today. [01:07:11] Speaker A: Gabby, the guest is Mandel. [01:07:13] Speaker B: Yes. [01:07:15] Speaker A: Mandel, how you doing, man? [01:07:16] Speaker C: I'm okay. So good afternoon. [01:07:17] Speaker A: You speaking, you speak of some true facts. [01:07:21] Speaker C: I lived it and still living it. [01:07:23] Speaker A: We have a lot of, of women out here who complicit in the fact that if they break up with a man, they have a child with that man just because the man dating somebody else or getting bored with someone, getting married to somebody else and all that they don't want their child around that female. Not for the fact that that female is a bad person, just for the fact that the man with that female and they know that man and they're using that as the excuse, you understand, not to have their child around that whole family or organization. Correct. [01:07:58] Speaker C: Gabaci, the man in the congregation standing up, clapping them. [01:08:05] Speaker B: But what, what is the workaround? Because if I know persons who've gone to court and it's mandated that 50 of the time, one week on, one week off. [01:08:16] Speaker A: So what you do in your week, [01:08:18] Speaker B: what you doing every year is you've [01:08:20] Speaker A: been called but 10 times every year trying to get that female to abide by what the court tell her to do. And as a man lives with her [01:08:28] Speaker C: and as a male, we have, we have to prove a woman to be unfit. And it is, it's a little beyond us when like you said, we didn't lay down with this woman and had a child with her. Now in order for us to access some form of rights, we got to go and prove that woman to be unfit, who our child with. [01:08:50] Speaker A: And so eventually come to our house. [01:08:52] Speaker C: Thank you. [01:08:52] Speaker A: You understand? Come down, they don't got to go to the mother, the mother might be crazy. They never come in there, you understand? They say we gotta prove that as men. So we, we at a disadvantage in this whole situation trying to rare and raise our child, our children. [01:09:06] Speaker C: And hence I believe you find a lot of men willing to walk away from the responsibility for peace of heart and a peace of mind. [01:09:16] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:09:17] Speaker C: Those are things you can't go in the food store and purchase peace. Peace is the continents of a man if he can exist but it does not exempt him from his responsibility. That's it right there. That's what a lot of men say [01:09:31] Speaker A: with them then and then explain to them what your mother do why I was never involved in your life. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Before a child reach reaches 18 though they are there are other parameters as well that because once they can they can speak and they can say I want to live with this parent. I want to this parent. I want to do this thing. The these are cases that have been presented again I'm saying like the. Like the person said to me oh, the court process is too hard. It's too difficult. If you are invested in this enough invested in your child enough nothing will be too difficult for you to mount [01:10:13] Speaker C: Gabby I was invested went through the courts got and by the end of the day when the woman reached the station nail bend story end because why here you have a woman at the police station saying this man and something to do with her girl child don't care what court documents or paperwork I had. It did not matter. That is. That's. That's like the culture of our country and we have to address was not until I walked in my lawyer's office one day and I picked up a book on something about law and parenting and father and it's only when I looked inside that book and saw what the law mandates of a father to be responsible for beyond monetary provision is when it hooked it stuck to me that hold on, I got some rights here. No, I support my child supposed to know what it is to go to bed and see me and see me before they go to bed and what's not stuff like that it does something for the development of the child but where we don't really have a misunderstanding understanding or miseducation and parenting and I'm not talking about from a gender point of view. From a. From a parenting point of view. People who work in the national parenting program. If you see most of the people who take part in our national parenting program that's offered by the government have to be mandated by the court. How much of us will take the time with us parents today to say let me just go learn or what I think to our own understanding and say I don't need nobody to tell [01:11:42] Speaker B: me how to raise Manual for Parenthood Mandel calling you live on Guardian Radio today. [01:11:48] Speaker A: Hello. [01:11:49] Speaker B: Hi alive. [01:11:51] Speaker A: Yes, ma'. Am. Good afternoon to both of you. [01:11:53] Speaker B: Good afternoon. [01:11:55] Speaker A: I like to always bring my point from a biblical point of view. I would encourage all men. I have a few principles that I would like to give man. Read the book of Proverbs from 5 through 7. You will not get a clear understanding until you get into the word one. Two, you have to remember you're fighting a gender war. War is coming from the daughters of Jezebel. Jezebel went after the prophet Elijah. And the prophet Elijah run from Jezebel. She was so dangerous. Three, we have to realize that the enemy want to dismantle the family structure. This is why the church, schools and basically all these institutions have been effeminate. Because the seed and the principle that God set up from the beginning the enemy he do not like that. And this is what's going on. And four, I will say to, to, to, to, to,. To, to. To the sisters. If you believe that being spiteful, especially boys, that trying to spite or use spite and anger, you will see if any money for a lawyer. Then you will be one of those who go and said, my good child, nobody will win. Nobody will win. This spirit is coming and being intensified from the daughters of Jezebel who have issues and of the principle of God. [01:13:55] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:13:55] Speaker A: And guess what? Until the brothers read the book of rewards and understand what is it that they're fighting, we will always be in the red. [01:14:05] Speaker B: Thank you so much for your contribution caller. We'll take the next call on the line calling your life on Guardian radio today. [01:14:10] Speaker A: Hey, good day, how you doing? [01:14:12] Speaker B: I'm good, how you doing? [01:14:13] Speaker A: Boy, that one is good to send the watering all over again. [01:14:17] Speaker B: I get the that I taking a bait. [01:14:21] Speaker A: You know the problem is. The problem is right. You ever see go to the number house, the bank or any business establishment rate, sit inside your car for about 30 minutes, right. And see what type of men come to these women. These women like bad man. They would have four or five sh for bad man. All of a sudden they were settled down with a good man, huh? To take you to five children for six baby daddies. [01:14:51] Speaker B: Why are we producing so much bad man, though? [01:14:54] Speaker A: Oh, that's what women like. If you want to be in the jail, guess what [01:15:01] Speaker B: I as a woman, I know, but none of that. [01:15:05] Speaker A: If you. If you be in the gym, right twice they get pregnant for you three times. [01:15:13] Speaker B: I can't allow you sweeping generalizations. And you are coming on this airway. Where is the defender of the woman them when we need him? [01:15:25] Speaker A: Look at these, look at these young girls nowadays. If you want have a gun, they knew, oh, go to jail if you ain't got a Care rope, that's a problem. They knew and then when they got fortune right, then all of a sudden they set themselves down for a good month, then they're ready to get married. [01:15:46] Speaker B: My lord. But again, I take us back. Thank you so much for your contribution. I take us back where it begins. Where are these young women finding these qualities from who? Who is it that they're is exposing them to these things? Is it because they themselves didn't have a father or a father figure to look at? [01:16:16] Speaker C: There's a possibility and some, in some instances, Gabby, they have been the home. But again, where the home has been broken and the value for that father that was present was, was not retained, you will still find a woman, go outside of what she was brought up under and end up in a situation that is unbecoming. I try to tell my daughters, hey, look here, don't go there and get nothing less than your daddy, nothing less than your part. If that's the case, stay home. I could pay the light bill and then just stay home. But how many of us are present enough in our daughter's lives to be that model that they could say, but look here, you know, you say kid isn't home to mommy or daddy because you ain't making no sense. And daddy them didn't tell us. But it's just you knew within yourself, yeah, be vikid this fella, if you could have came to your mind, you know, you knew. And that's because either her or your father or some other woman in your life, your grandma, he talked about your grandmother a lot. And they, they ensure that they invested that in you then that when Gabby golden look for a man, even if she, she fall down here or there when she really settled on it can be someone of substance. [01:17:28] Speaker B: The funny thing about it is, and I don't talk about it much, but I actually use the inverse formula to look for anything of a man that I saw growing up and was brought up with. It had to do with a lot of what I would deem as common sense. But clearly it's not a common thing, right, Because I didn't grow up in a two parent household. My dad used to send us $200. I heard my mother say, and I love my dad to death. Now, like at my grown age, there was a point where I had to tell myself that I have to forgive him for what he has done and could not or was unable to do. And then I had to forgive my mother for the role she played in fracturing some of that relationship too because of his shortcomings as well, for whatever the reason may have been. Because I realize the effect that women can also have on their children in saying so that's why I'm chuckling when I hear you all say that. I only say speaking from a words like naturally, feeling like. I understand that there are different situations and scenarios because they'll tell you I only getting. I. I used to have my. She's a say it all the time. But if you, if you have my mom, we talk. She would. Well, my mommy tells the story. She fall out and she get up with her children. [01:19:03] Speaker A: She. [01:19:04] Speaker C: Her children. [01:19:05] Speaker B: Her children. She fall out and she get up with children. She fall out and she get up with them. Right. And that's her story to tell. Because there were a lot of sacrifices as a single mother she had to make. And so there were a lot of things in her based on whatever inadequacies or whatever shortcomings that my dad, when he decided he wouldn't go make he next family over there. Because I could tell you before I got to the point where. And again, like you say, reading, understanding, psychology, just personal growth and development, where I understood that I cannot carry these things with me for the rest of my life. And I have to forgive my parents for what they could not do for me and realize that as an adult now I have to determine who I want to be, who I want in my life and how I want to raise my children and the environment that I intend to have my children be a part of. See, so I saw my cousins and the sisters and everyone else becoming single mothers. I saw the types of men they were dating. I. I grew up around it. But did I decide that that's what I want for me? Because listen, when I see a relative getting slapped down, oh, child I know cut up his height. And I don't want to feel that I don't have to go buck my head to realize that that is going to hurt Gabby. [01:20:36] Speaker C: Something that's dropped in my spirit that I want to give to as many of our men out there as you talk about where are our men? Where are our men? And the need for them to step up. A lot of our men use the excuse of she crazy, she this, she that, she the next. And I'm a product of that. I will never forget. And I want to encourage men to go and seek the necessary help that you need to find a professional, your pastor, your counselor, someone in chur, somebody to go and talk to. I went to the crisis center where I met Dr. Kavita. But I knew her from right around this table at Guardian Radio, listening to her. And that's what caused me to open up as a man and know that the crisis center, Dr. Sandra Day in Patterson Doors, they do a phenomenal job. They're opening the center for men. It ain't just a place for women who are hurting to go. It's a place for men who are hurting and have experienced trauma in their life to go also. And it was only there when Dr. Kavita said to me, I want you to go and just tell your father you forgive him. I say, for what? I'm gonna wipe with him. She's like, no, I need you to forgive him for not being in your life. I said, but I wiped in with him. But she said, you don't understand how the trauma of that absence has affected you. And when I listened to her and I did it, my father responded in a way that was surprising to me. But for me, me as an individual now being a man, the caller that just called in and talked about the picture that he wanted with his dad, I remember I said, man, daddy, I just want to go to church with you. I just want to know. I've been in the same. I could evening. I sit in the same pew, you know, I just want to know. I see you in church. And I was in church, and his words to me was, bro, leave it alone. Let the ghost go. And that hurt me for years, to the point that it wasn't until one day reading my Bible, the book of Malachi says, when the hearts of the fathers. The scriptures say, when the. Say when you hear from heaven and say something about when the wicked. And they turn from their wicked ways, they hear from. Okay, well, there's a similar scripture given to men in the last book of Malachi, which is the last book of the Old Testament, the last chapter where God says to the men, when the hearts of the fathers return to that of the children, I will heal their land. And as a father, all the trauma that I had been through, either from my father or what I was experiencing myself with my own children, made sense to me then, if I could keep my heart on my children, because then God will heal my life as a result of it, whether they were there or not. Once my heart remains on them, my life can experience heaven. And that's where the turnaround started for me. So I want to encourage men out there, regardless of the search circumstances. The Bible, our God, our creator, says, when your heart turn to your children, heaven will heal your land. [01:23:23] Speaker B: Calling you live on Guardian Radio today. What a conversation we're having. [01:23:28] Speaker A: Good day, Gabby. [01:23:30] Speaker B: Good day. [01:23:31] Speaker A: Good day to your guest mano and to the nation. Gabby, the moral of your story is bad man love crazy woman. Okay? [01:23:42] Speaker C: So you just said we gotta find a bad man, right? So we gotta have equivalent crazy woman then. [01:23:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I could tell you we have some model citizens in this country who are raising great kids and. And they don't have any issues, you know, So, I mean, because I can tell you I love my children and the judge or the police that could take my kids would have my last name and give it to another woman named Barnett and his mother and daddy dead. Okay? So I can tell you ain't nobody could take my kids what have my last name and give it to another woman or give it to a woman who just carried them for me. You know, I'm a good father and I send shout outs to all the good fathers out there who are taking care of the business as fathers and everything. Because it is very important as fathers that we connect with our children and raise our children the right way that they will become modern citizens. So, you know, but it's a good conversation, good topic, thank you and everything, and I appreciate everything that I'm here. [01:24:42] Speaker B: All right. Thank you so much. Mandel. We got to. My texts are on me. I'm not reading their text. We hear yapping, so. So we gotta get our texts in some text. I come into the text line because y' all have paid us, and these. So this text says, good afternoon, Gabby. In the armed forces and where there's more physical labor involved, women are tolerated like they are only there because of affirmative action and not because they earned their sport through qualifications and training. There's a sentiment that women have an easier time getting promoted than their male counterparts. This in a country where despite households being raised by mostly women, the men are groomed to have an inherent disrespect for women in leadership. We woman cause this. We raise our boys to treat women bad. We allow men to get away with the bare minimum to earn crab and rice. This is coming in from the text line. This next text says, gabby, I don't think men believe that they need to be in a traditional home to raise a child properly. That's why they tend to be all over the place having kids. They may want kids, but don't want the marriage and the responsibility of a family. This next text says, great show as usual, your daddy, your daddy. But your daddy don't know a lot of people in that Situation. [01:26:16] Speaker C: They have amazing outstanding fathers. Outstanding fathers. I telling you, Gabby, in situations where your daddy, your daddy and your daddy don't know outstanding fathers with no biological [01:26:30] Speaker B: condition, does the daddy even find out? Because I know of situations personally where persons have taken care of children for over a decade. Even recently in the newspaper we saw where a judge had to reward the dad of over somewhat twenty something thousand dollars back in child support of where he would have taken care of this child that was not biologically his woman. You all need to do better. Come on, man, you're making me look fat. This next text is said, good day. Mothers teach girls how to be women and show boys how they should be treated. Fathers teach boys how to be men and show girls how they should be treated. This is coming in from our text. [01:27:12] Speaker C: Mommies do some damage to. Because I had to forgive my mother for something she said to me. Gabby, I remember by the time I was 12 when my mother died, so I only had few years with her. So I held onto every little thing. I heard mommy say I will never forget one day. And I hear mommy say, woman, come dime a dozen. I know what she mean as a mother today. You know, I know what she mean. But as a. I came through an era of my life where that impacted my. The values of a woman to me. And so I had to even. [01:27:45] Speaker B: Yeah. So you, you felt like, like, like the commissioner's comments. You felt like it's so much of y' all around here, I could just treat you all any kind of house of y' all and I could just pick up another one. [01:27:56] Speaker C: Like the, the, the text I just said in my first child's case, I felt that I could be a father without having to be in the relationship with that mother. I just need to do what I need to do to raise my. To, to parent my child. Child from my own point of view. But realistically, that child needed both of us. [01:28:17] Speaker B: Boy, Mandela, this next text said, I have no faith in the justice system. Though this is a different circumstance, justice should still be the main factor. I was a wrongful price of 400 in child support for one baby who I did not get to see at all. How I got to pay that $400 is wrong because the judge didn't have my salary slip nor my list of expenditures my lawyer didn't even have. So how can you just tell me to pay $400? That's not fair. That's not justice. This is coming in from. [01:28:58] Speaker C: Well, I'll say this, Gabby, and then maybe this is something that we need to look into to in terms of our legal system where persons are saying there's no justice when it comes to parenting, the court takes the position of wanting to know what's in the best interest of the child. The court isn't there to determine whether they like the mummy or they like the daddy. And in a lot of instances, the court isn't there to say, look, your mommy and daddy all do need to get along better. The court tries to provide some form of mediation or intervention as best as they can. But it's not the court responsibility to ensure that that mother and father gets along. It's the court responsibility to ensure that the needs of that child, the monitor needs in particular, are provided for that child or else the state got to do it. [01:29:44] Speaker B: And so I'm a water of the state. [01:29:45] Speaker C: So, so, so as parenting, we got to get a little bit beyond the court. If the court said give $200, you can't just convince yourself that, hey, once I didn't give this $200, I in my right and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm in right standing as a parent, it has to be a lot more than the $200. [01:30:02] Speaker B: Boy, this is a great conversation we're having today. We're talking about parroting. I, I think it's gone beyond a moment and daddy and it's gone really into parroting. And we are going to definitely expand this conversation in the future. Mandela, invite some of those persons from the crisis center, some of those counselors. Counselors and talk further. But we're going to take our final break of the show and we'll be right back on Guardian Radio today. 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Man lie, woman lies. Six and a half doesn't seem thing. I like cheat woman like cheat6. [01:33:17] Speaker C: What we are experiencing in our society is the result of unintentional parenting as a result of two people who just went to say, oh, and I, we didn't go to have children. We just went to say and as a result of I glad you said that. [01:33:32] Speaker B: So let me read this text to just tell me. They say, gabby, these people need to stop fornicating and just have churned with their husband and wife one time. There's a Christian nation, stop fornicating, y'. All Stop fornicating. So you alone slip up and have these children which you all didn't plan for. That's another conversation. That's a conversation. Another day. Family planning. [01:33:58] Speaker C: Yes. [01:33:58] Speaker B: It's, it's, it's not spoken about. It's like it's not important. I hear people telling people to just go, you don't have a boyfriend, nothing. They just telling you because you reach a certain age, you know there's a sting. Even though you in a healthy relationship, they just telling you girl, your clock's going up, you need to go hurry up and have a chat. [01:34:17] Speaker C: You know there's a stigma on family planning in our country. And when I say stigma meaning you on the shot. [01:34:24] Speaker B: Uh huh. [01:34:24] Speaker C: And so the conversation doesn't, doesn't get to center around family planning for he says we're using the methods of family planning for to stop to fornicate more also. And so it's a result again of miseducation and we need to take the time as a nation to educate ourselves on, on, on why Family planning is important, you understand? If I see mommy plant of me, well, I keep a plant of my own. [01:34:55] Speaker B: I have a. I have a whole husband, Mandela. Whole one. Not a half a one, a whole husband. And one of my gripes with people is, oh, when you're the first just get married. When you eat a man, a child. Well, mother said, why are you in my vagina? That's what I really want. No, why all up in here? I could say that out there because I feel I live vulgar. That was a little vulgar. [01:35:22] Speaker C: But what when y' all haven't. Y' all ain't no church yet. [01:35:28] Speaker B: Did you give us the house to live in yet to put the child in? You wanna know why we have all these craziness going on? Because now when we have the child and they gotta grow up in poverty and then now they gotta start teething because they. They wanted something what we couldn't get them. What you could say what you could say again. [01:35:44] Speaker C: This is the result of a society which has the precedent of the days of all. You understand? So when mommy them could have had potential for no man that was married to them and still raise all them children in a. In a home whole. [01:35:59] Speaker B: And what's not used to go far. [01:36:06] Speaker A: Gotta. [01:36:06] Speaker B: They gotta buy lot. They gotta buy flour. They gotta buy all the things one [01:36:11] Speaker C: of them child eat all them all them. Nowadays you gotta guess something for nowadays, Gabby, if you got two baby one on different. One on different. [01:36:21] Speaker B: This one they lactose intolerant. This one got gen. Need gentle formula. And then they talk about oh, give them the breast milk. Do you know how many women who wear their breasts are not springing or they only are producing 2 to 4 ounces of milk. And that child drinking 4 ounce of milk every two hours. And you are telling. You see, a lot of people are not understanding the health challenges as well associated with these pregnancies. So you say it. Oh, the. You could drink the breast milk. You could just. You could. This. This thing or what you could do, Wrap them up with the Claude and wash it over bompas and put a pin on the side. [01:37:01] Speaker C: See? And when you have a lot of our women who go through this process seemingly alone, here's where that aura or pride of my child. Because I mean, if only me here, [01:37:17] Speaker B: who else child is child. Baby. [01:37:19] Speaker C: It's my child. And so we have to come to a place as a nation, as a people where true education. Even if you're a single parent, there's still a need for a village around that child. [01:37:32] Speaker B: So it still takes a village. [01:37:34] Speaker C: It still ain't only my child. And so we have to rid ourselves of some of these norms that don't pay us the dividends that we want. In terms of other people, whether it's your child or not, your uncle or your brother or somebody is attempting to only fill the role that the father is missing in that child's life. And if you're just open to that, if only, because in this day ain't nobody saying that to my child. Don't say nothing. You always got something to say to my child and this and that the next day, like everybody just wants to stay stuck in the same struggle and cycle. As long as I could go to it alone. [01:38:08] Speaker B: Mandel, let's take our final caller and then text us y' all for the last five minutes remaining on the show. I'm gonna read your text. The next four give a minute to wrap up and then, Mandel, we gotta come back and do what we actually were supposed to do. [01:38:20] Speaker C: We doing that today. [01:38:21] Speaker B: We can't even do it today. We got no time. [01:38:23] Speaker C: Okay. [01:38:24] Speaker B: So yeah, yeah, next week we can come back to. We supposed to do. We can do it at the top. Okay, we can do it at the top. So when we get back, because my [01:38:31] Speaker C: exumer people said they wanted to know [01:38:33] Speaker B: what's going on, we could do it at the top. And let's take our final call of the caller. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [01:38:40] Speaker A: All right, just want to make a quick comment and a question. Can men have babies? [01:38:48] Speaker C: Not to my knowledge. [01:38:49] Speaker A: No. Okay, it sounds like a crazy question, but let me just tell you something. A lot of what is going on in us as far as parenting is concerned, the biggest responsibility is in, is to the woman. And the problem is a lot of women nowadays, not everyone, but a lot of them nowadays, they've come from single parent homes where the mother teaches them, you don't need no man for nothing. And we then wonder why society is the way it is, why we don't have fathers in relationships. Marriages are going wherever it's going. It's simply because of the ingrained concepts that we've had. A lot of these mothers being have taught their daughters over the decades of how to approach men and relationships. And as a result of that, we're just reaping what we sow. My biggest thing about it, let me very honest with you. I truly believe that you can't, you can never please a woman because the mother of all nations, she had, she had, she had eaten and she still wasn't satisfied enough to tell you something. [01:40:19] Speaker B: You are open up something at the end of the show and I letting you go right now because you try to open up something at the end of the show and I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And I can let you go right now. [01:40:37] Speaker C: She say, let me hear what he got to say. [01:40:42] Speaker B: Listen, why you wait till I do that? He mean to do that. I can talk to you next week. Second back when we have this conversation because I want. I ain't even starting that debate with him right now. This, this text that says excellent talk show gab today, lady Gabby and guest. Very interesting and necessary talk show about parroting in the Bahamas. We have created this disaster on parenting, especially with fathers. Jehovah, God Almighty is our who have never changed. So why can't we live in harmony and unity? Let's build a better Bahamas for the future. Selah from the mayor of Grand Bahama. Amen. That's coming in from the text. I'm on there like gotta run through some more of these. This, this text, any topic, just tip of the iceberg. It really is just the tip of the iceberg. This next text says, good afternoon, Gabby and guests. We need to have more conversation about this. We will, we will. Because the social ills have to really be tackled from the home. And who's bringing up these, these, these toxic people? [01:41:44] Speaker C: As a community treatment specialist, Gabby, this is the work that I desire to do to help heal our country by having conversations as such. [01:41:53] Speaker B: This text says these women love toxicity. Bunch of women who haven't healed. Heal the world, make it a better place. I think we need that song going out. Producer Heal, Heal everybody, everyone. We need. [01:42:06] Speaker C: Let's make it a better father. [01:42:07] Speaker B: Yes. [01:42:07] Speaker C: Just how about that? [01:42:10] Speaker B: This text says, Gabby, these women, like the caller said, choose bums to have kids. Who with then they want to settle down with a good man to raise kids after they done get ring outs. This is coming in from the text. Life this next Texas says Gabby, a woman could. Okay, we read that one could raise a man but to be a man. I saw it happen. I look confused. Gabby, I have a problem with a male manual. I ain't talking about that. That manual bring in politics and everything. Why you're supposed to mess up everything with politics. It's just a national issue and you're talking about politics. I don't care about what the politics of that man is. Anyway, this text says good day. Great Show. I was mad with my dad for years until of late when I found letters and check stubs my dad was sending to my mom for us. She had it hid under her bed. My dad used to come to hail us, but my mom meet him at the gates. She said things to him. He would speed off. We spoke. Lately I cried on his shoulders. My God. Manual woman. Gotta stop this. [01:43:29] Speaker C: Very fitting of that text right there because I wanted to say it. And it came in my spirit to say, to give the chapter out to our listeners if there's some unresolved trauma in your relationship with either your father or with another male that you had a child with. Let's use this Father's Day and the time leading up to Father's Day as an opportunity to try and resolve some of that trauma, even if it doesn't require you having to speak to them if you think that that's gonna create more problem. But find the peace within your own self as a woman or as a man, to say, you know, know what? We gotta heal from this trauma so that we could. We could be better examples to the next generation. [01:44:07] Speaker B: Boy, I think I can close out on those words because we are out of time. And I really, I really want us to heal the Bahama line, heal the men in this country, heal the women in this country, because they are impacting the future leaders of this country. Men, women, they're impacting the next generation as well. All of us have a role to play. [01:44:29] Speaker C: You know, they say there's this thing we just came out of election season and you hear people saying they tired of fm, they tired of plp, they tired of this, and they tired of that. If we don't be careful as a people and start to truly heal ourselves, we can be tired of each other [01:44:42] Speaker B: and a little bit. Wow, listen, Father's Day is coming up. I want to wish my dad a happy Father's Day. And all the men of the nation, all the fathers and father figures of the nation, the father figures, because a lot of you stand in the gap. [01:45:02] Speaker C: My biological father, I know him, have a good relationship with him. But I got a million uncles who have stood in the gap. And I just want to tell all my uncles, Uncle Stanley, Uncle Cecil, Uncle Mike in Atlanta, everybody, all my uncles, all the men, Pastor Henry Higgins, Pastor Raymond Wells, Valentino Williams, all the men in the Bahama land who have been an example to me, the men in Grady Nagua, you name it. [01:45:29] Speaker B: From Gabby and Mandel, thank you so much. To my producer. We love you. We appreciate you. I'll be back next Wednesday. And. And I think I'm going to continue with this conversation, but we're going to invite some more people in the room. Good afternoon. Talking Heads is up next.