Guardian Radio Today - September 3 2025

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. [00:00:08] Speaker B: 96.9 FM. [00:00:11] Speaker A: The views and opinions of the hosts and guests are their own and do. [00:00:16] Speaker B: Not necessarily reflect the views of the. [00:00:18] Speaker C: Management and staff of Guardian Radio. [00:00:26] Speaker A: Guardian Radio today is brought to you by Alive, Burger King, the Cleveland Clinic. [00:00:31] Speaker C: Commonwealth Wealth Bank, Epic Battery, Popeyes, Prince. [00:00:34] Speaker A: Masters Rods, Electric Motors, and the Shoe Depot. [00:00:49] Speaker B: And good afternoon and welcome to another edition of Guardian radio today, the September 3rd edition. My name is Pastor Dr. Cleveland W. Eneas III, also known as Kahun Ankusara. As always, a pleasure to be here with you. And we have another exciting show for you today. I have a guest in the first hour of the show and that prompted the actual topic for today's show, which is how does your mental state affect your. Your ability to learn and properly process scripture? How does your mental state now. And I know we back go. We have back to school happening now. The dynamics have shifted, right? Traffic is, you know, you got to Renavigate, you know, traffic in the morning, you got to Renavigate. Traffic in the afternoon and the evenings, you know, homework is a reality again. Not to mention those children who have to graduate soon, there's a different urgency with them. They have a different uniform for their senior year. I mean, there are a whole lot of different things going on. I mean, then of course, there are those who are starting university, but generally around this time of year, obviously the tourist industry is kind of slow, so hotels are not, you know, as full as they normally are. So I don't know, people may not. People may not actually, you know, have the same type of work that they normally do. But we're here to have a conversation that I pray will assist you in the first. First half of the show. In the second half of the show, we're gonna. We're gonna jump back into some of the topics that we were discussing yesterday. But, Kermit, my guess is saying they may not. They may have the wrong link. I. I used the link that you gave me earlier. That link didn't change. Right. I'm just. Okay, so we're going to get our guest on in just a second. Her name is Dr. Nicole Ford and. Sorry, I'm just making sure she has the right link so she can come in through zoom. I'm just sharing it right now. But ultimately, listeners, the reality of how your mental. And, And. And this is interesting because we didn't plan, you know, to. I should say I didn't know. C.A. nury and Aaron Green, were you Know, having a similar conversation with regard to mental health and counseling, etc, so this kind of segues into that. But there's a lot of mental stress that people are not necessarily talking about. I think people are, for whatever reason, not necessarily aware of some of the signs that may be arising based on just having some mental challenges. You know, I think oftentimes when people are having mental challenges, you know, it's a situation where just making sure I have this to the right. WhatsApp. But when people are having mental challenges, we like to self medicate, we like to, you know, maybe just withdraw. You know what I'm saying? And it's not necessarily easy to talk to every and anybody because I ain't gonna lie. We just judge people, man. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like they'll, They'll. You have people who will pretend to be helping you in one breath, and then in another instance, they talking about you, right? You confiding in them, you're showing them your vulnerable side, and now they are looking at you different. And so all of this goes into today's conversation, but we, we also add in a scripture scriptural component because we understand that as a, as a, as a, as a country that ultimately prides itself on being a Christian country. If we're not assessing our mental state. And Kermit, I don't know if you. Can everyone just take a look at what, what the guests are seeing. I. I'm gonna resend what he sent me, Dr. Ford, because I really want to get you in here, Naomi, and she's in the middle of her. Her work day. I know she has a patient not too long after this. I just resent you the link, Dr. Ford. But, you know, if we're, if we're not. If we're not honest about, you know, that same conversation that Aaron and Ca Naree had on Guardian Radio AM just now, where people actually have a place where they can actually just be honest, just be vulnerable. You know, just, you know, take the time to. To share what's going on with them. You know what I mean? I think sometimes in a family, adults may not want to show children their vulnerabilities because, you know, you're supposed to be the adult. You know what I mean? You ain't supposed to be having difficult times. I mean, that's how some children think, right? Some adults keep that facade up in order to make things seem better than they actually are. Right? And I'm not saying you should or shouldn't do that. That's why we bring in an expert in. To explain our way around some of these difficult discussions. You may be at work. You may be the team leader. Who does the team leader go to when the team leader is having some difficulties? Right. If the team leader shows any weakness or vulnerabilities, are they team leader material? Right. You know, when we talk about scripture, are we only talking about the Bible? Are we only talking about, you know, monotheistic scriptures? Or are we talking about the reality that in ancient times, you know, we looked at our sciences and our social sciences and our, you know, cultural realities as a scripture. We studied those with the same intensity that we would a Bible or a Quran. Right. These are all the questions that I have for. For our guest, and I pray that she gets on zoom right now. I'm just checking to see. Just let me know when you're in. But we don't take mental health as serious as other places. I think she's in now. We don't take mental health as serious as some other countries. And I think, you know, these are steps to assisting us in actually being able to do that. If, unfortunately, we don't get there, then we're gonna see, you know, the self. When I say self medicating, I mean you sitting under the tree smoking and drinking. I don't just mean you go into the pharmacy to get pharmaceuticals, but you're trying to find a way to escape. Right? But I guess today is none other than Dr. Nicole Ford, all right? She's a licensed clinical professional Counselor with over 15 years of experience working in both private and public sectors. And she sees so much more. Right. I'm gonna let her add to that short bio. But, Dr. Ford, how are you doing today? [00:09:40] Speaker A: I am doing wonderful. [00:09:41] Speaker C: Welcome. [00:09:42] Speaker A: Let's get it right, Wednesday. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Go a little closer to your mic so we can hear you nice and clear. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Let me go here. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Ah, yeah, that's. That's a lot better. That's a lot better. [00:09:53] Speaker A: Nice and clear. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. So. So give. Give our listening audience just. I know I gave just a brief introduction to who you are, but let. [00:10:04] Speaker C: Let. [00:10:05] Speaker B: Let. Let the listening audience know who the. The conscious counselor is, please. [00:10:11] Speaker A: Greetings, everyone, my Bahama family. I am Dr. Nicole Ford, coming to you live and direct. I am actually in Chicago right now. [00:10:20] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:21] Speaker A: I'm coming from the United States. Right? [00:10:23] Speaker B: Yes. [00:10:24] Speaker A: And I'm actually coming to you. I am just one of those, you know, ladies of true faith. Right. I am a Nazarite, or striving to become a Nazarite. And so in this conversation today, Day. Right. I would like us to be able to talk about how our mental states affects our ability to learn and kind of properly process the Scriptures, right? [00:10:51] Speaker B: Yes. [00:10:52] Speaker A: And so in the process of this, we're going to be talking a little psychology. We're going to throw a little Bible in there. We're going to be talking about faith, but we're going to keep it relevant. We're going to be talking about things that's actually happening right now in Bahamas today. Wow. [00:11:05] Speaker B: That's powerful. That's exactly the type of conversation we need to have. So, Dr. Ford, let's just jump right into it. [00:11:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:11:13] Speaker B: Mental. A mental. What is. What is a mental state? We talk about this idea of a mental state. [00:11:19] Speaker C: What. [00:11:20] Speaker B: What is that to the labor? [00:11:21] Speaker A: We're gonna keep it simple. Yeah, we're gonna keep it simple. A person's mental state is just their condition of their mind, but their mind includes their thoughts, their feelings, how they perceive things, their beliefs, their desires, their emotions, and their memory. [00:11:39] Speaker C: Right? [00:11:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:40] Speaker A: And so when you're looking at it from, you know, a Christian perspective, as people that, you know, read the Bible and have faith, sometimes these emotions pop up in the Bible, Right. They might be in Genesis 2. 25, that talks about shame. [00:11:55] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:11:55] Speaker A: Or depression. Genesis 4. 5, with countenance dropping, being low. Right. Or even sometimes it talks about grief and mourning. In Matthews 5, 4. So the Bible is full of wisdoms and things about mental health, but now we got to talk about the ability, right? Because your. How you think, how you feel affects the choices that you make, the habits that you gauge in the lifestyle decisions that you do each and every day. So your ability is just your ability to do. [00:12:29] Speaker C: You're. [00:12:30] Speaker A: You're just being able to act. That includes your talents, your mental endowments. So, for example, Ephesians 3:20, right? Now, to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think according to the power at work within us, that power in that verse is, that's your ability. [00:12:51] Speaker B: Okay? [00:12:53] Speaker A: Those are your talents, Right? And those talents sometimes are given to us genetically, but sometimes we have to learn, right? Learning is getting knowledge. It's something cultivated. It's studying, reading and thinking about it. So Proverbs 1:5. Let the wise hear and increase in learning. So when we talk about how does your mental state affect your ability to learn and properly process the scriptures, we're talking about that. Your ability to look at scriptural information. This is going to be about your focus, your memory, your emotional responses. What are your values and Ethics. And so as Nazarites, we teach the most potent organ of the human body is the brain. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. [00:13:45] Speaker A: It's the seat of both your knowledge and your ignorance. So when I was young and I was out there in the club and if I was drinking alcohol or I was hanging with people, that was a conscious decision. I was using my brain to make that choice. [00:13:57] Speaker B: True, true, true. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Right. Or if a person decides, I want to go to school, I want to become a doctor, instead of going to the parties, I'm going to go ahead, I'm going to hit the library. [00:14:08] Speaker B: Right. [00:14:08] Speaker A: I'll party later. I'm going to make my sacrifices. So the brain is the seat of either knowledge or ignorance. And so it can either your habits can either make you be in bondage because now you have to go ahead and do things to support those habits, increase that pleasure or your liberation. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:14:29] Speaker A: Does that make sense? [00:14:30] Speaker B: It makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense. I mean, I wanted to have this conversation today because I think oftentimes as a people, we have tools available to us that we don't necessarily. I wouldn't say we don't know how to use them in all instances. I, I was. We had a show recently with, with Dr. Varma and he was, he made a good point. He said a lot of people just don't read the Bible to begin with. Right. So you gotta at least be reading it. But even for those people who are reading it, you're bringing a different perspective. You're. You're a counselor, so you're, you, you're seeing people who have issues on a daily basis. Right. And are you finding that sometimes the issues that people are having are based off of the fact that they're not properly processing scripture or just in general? I mean, what are you seeing? [00:15:33] Speaker A: Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I'm a very hopeful person. [00:15:37] Speaker C: Right. [00:15:38] Speaker A: But I want to make sure that when I'm talking to the people listening today, get close to your speakers. Now, today the challenge for people of faith and many others is we believe the negative self talk we have. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Wow. [00:15:56] Speaker A: And as a result, let me tell. [00:15:59] Speaker B: You, I'm guilty of that sometimes. I'm just gonna be honest. I'm just gonna be honest. The self doubts are real. Yeah. Yeah. [00:16:06] Speaker A: You know that. That net those negative thinking patterns. Right. And as a result, we create limited beliefs. [00:16:14] Speaker C: Wow. [00:16:14] Speaker A: That limit our possibilities. And we believe this ongoing script, this ongoing narrative. And the reality is we have more power within ourselves. John 1:5. The light shineth in the darkness, but the darkness Comprehended it not right. [00:16:32] Speaker B: As my brother Kahud Mantuta would say, stick a pin for a second. Right. You, you're saying to me that there is a power that is linked to the self talk the thoughts that. [00:16:49] Speaker A: Yes. [00:16:49] Speaker B: I don't want to run past that. I really, really, I really want you to build on that. Please. [00:16:55] Speaker A: Yes. So a lot of times people don't know if you, if anybody. Right now I want you to go to Google, everybody. I want you to go on your phone and I just want you to type in how many. Go ahead, Calhoun. How many right now negative thoughts do we have each day? [00:17:15] Speaker B: How many negative thoughts do we have every day? [00:17:29] Speaker A: Could you go ahead and read that for us? [00:17:31] Speaker B: I never even thought the ox Google is questioning though. Let's see, let's see what it says. There's no universally agreed upon number, but studies suggest a range of negative thoughts per day around 11 for a specific poll to much higher figures. If you include repetitive thoughts, research widely cited. An article suggested that a significant majority up to 80% of our 12,000 to 60,000 daily thoughts can be negative with 95% of them being repetitive. So 80% of our 12,000-60,000 daily thoughts can be negative, with 95% of them being repetitive. [00:18:14] Speaker C: Wow. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Why? That's a lot of thoughts. [00:18:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:18:20] Speaker C: Wow. [00:18:21] Speaker B: Wow. [00:18:23] Speaker A: That is constant. That keeps us in a constant state of stress. [00:18:26] Speaker B: I mean that's like, that's like, that's like a cage. That's like a cage built around your whole thought process, you know? [00:18:32] Speaker A: Yes, yes. And getting people to understand this. So when the Bible talks about those powers and principalities that we are facing, if we just kept the math, you know, real simple, that means if you have 12000 thoughts, and I'm going to simplify it just as an example, 10,000 thoughts out that 10,080%. [00:18:57] Speaker B: Wow. [00:18:57] Speaker A: That's 8,000 out of 10,000 are negative. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Wow. And this is a study. This is not something. [00:19:08] Speaker A: This is research. [00:19:09] Speaker B: Right. This is research science. [00:19:11] Speaker A: Right. So this is, you know, that, that state. So when we're talking about, you know, the ignorance that that light is power, that knowledge is power, we have our abilities within us that we can control and be in charge of this light. Right. And I'm not saying this in, in a negative way, but there's really nothing out here. [00:19:35] Speaker B: Right. [00:19:36] Speaker C: Wow. [00:19:36] Speaker A: I mean, we can't wait for somebody to change our condition or magically say, hey, you all need to know this information. Do you all know we don't know? [00:19:46] Speaker B: Right, Right. [00:19:48] Speaker A: So we have to be able to take care of our problems. So the reality is we have the power to change our circumstances. Does that make sense? [00:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it, you know, you hear a lot of cliche scripture. I, I guess that's the best way. You know, as a man thinketh in the heart. In his heart, you know, or she, a woman thinks in her heart, so is he or she. Right. But to hear this scientific research, it really has me, you know, I'm at a pause right now because that means this ability that we have in order for us to, to properly process scripture or life in general, we have to, I'm asking the question now, do we have to stop and just evaluate our thoughts? How do we stop doing that? How do we stop this negative thinking? [00:20:42] Speaker A: Yes, yes, exactly right. We have to kind of take a moment, right. And one of my favorite Bible quotes is Lamentations 3, 4D. It talks about, let us test and examine our ways. We got to take a look at ourselves, right. One of the famous renowned psychologists, his name was Amos Wilson. [00:21:04] Speaker B: Yes. [00:21:04] Speaker A: And he always talked about power and he talked about how we waste a lot of time trying to transform other people instead of transforming ourselves. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Wow. [00:21:14] Speaker C: Wow. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Guilty again, doctor. Yes, indeed. Because if you could transform yourself, I mean, that's. That, that speaks to how you can even affect other people. [00:21:29] Speaker A: Yes. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Wow. [00:21:30] Speaker A: So now we're in a place, right? It's 2025, right. Like I said, I'm gonna make it, making sure it's relevant what's going on here now. Right. There was a recent article in which Mr. Dillon knows, he is the Grand Bahama Chamber of Commerce president and long time ago, churches and schools we like, we learned a lot at home, right. We will learn certain information about, you know, how to do, do what, what we need to do with these abilities and these skill sets. And so he recently reported that there's some issues regarding the schools, Right. In Bahamas, right. In which he was saying, hey, we have a great literacy rate, 95%. We have over 90% of the children attending school. People are going to school. And he says, my personal belief is we are going about it the wrong way. We are teaching to teach people how to pass tests rather than teaching people how to learn. And we have got to figure that out. The consequences are going to be that the cost of labor will continue to skyrocket because you end up having to pay for non productive staff and less efficient staff. And we're already at high price labor locations. So that doesn't bode well for us in the long run. When it comes to having jobs and being able to compete in a global market. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Why is this important? [00:23:00] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:01] Speaker A: First Thessalonians 4, 11, 12 encourages people of faith to aspire to live quietly, to mind your own affairs and to work with your hands. Instructed you. Yes, First Thessalonians. [00:23:16] Speaker B: Say that again. [00:23:18] Speaker A: This is a Bible verse. Yes, it is. [00:23:21] Speaker B: Please say that again. [00:23:23] Speaker A: First Thessalonians 4, 11, 12. [00:23:26] Speaker C: Right. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Aspire to live quietly and the mind your own affairs and work with your own. With your hands as we instructed you so that you may work properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one. [00:23:43] Speaker B: That's powerful. That's powerful. First Thessalonians 4, 11 and 12. Yes, please write that verse down, people. Go ahead. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Self sufficiency and independence through vigilant, diligent. Diligent work. Right. And so why is this important? Because we have to always remember within historical context what was the purpose of education initially? Education under racism, white supremacy for melanated people was about basic literacy and religious conversion. [00:24:20] Speaker B: Okay, wow, wow, right. [00:24:24] Speaker A: And that religious conversion, unfortunately for a lot of us it was not about the benefit for us, but it was that person that comes before another Second Corinthians comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than Jesus repreach or if you receive a different spirit, a different gospel. This was about removing our true religious identity as Nazarites and people of faith. [00:24:53] Speaker B: Okay. [00:24:56] Speaker A: So when we're going back talking about once again the mental state and how it affects your ability to. Your ability is going to be affected if you are not in reality of what's actually happening here with us right now. So if knowledge is not to be confusing and thereby ineffective, it must be in sequence. [00:25:19] Speaker B: Okay, so Dr. Ford, I'm. I'm listening to everything you're saying and you. I mean this is a power packed presentation you got for us today. They. Because what I'm hearing is we're not even in our own mentality. I mean, we've been converted to the religion of the people who gave us the education system in the first place. Here in the Bahamas, that would be the British. So that means our thoughts have been Anglicized and so we're not even thinking in our original or indigenous thought patterns or sequence as you just mentioned. Am I getting you correct? [00:26:03] Speaker A: Yes, you are. Because no one ever wants to sit and ask. We all have to test and ask ourselves how do we live in the image and likeness of the beast. [00:26:12] Speaker B: That's a deal. Yes, so you say. Yeah, let's. Let's dive into that. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Right and so when you look at what does that mean, right? Because Romans 12:12 do not conform to the patterns of this world. But a lot of us have conformed to the patterns of this world because. [00:26:30] Speaker B: We need that job. We need that job. Dr. Ford, Dr. Ford. I gotta pay my bills. [00:26:34] Speaker A: It could be something as simple as how you manage stress, right? Right. A lot of us might overeat or we drink or we try to find some way to escape sometimes the reality of what's going on in our life. Right. And so if someone removes your style of dress, how you supposed to navigate the foods that you eat, right. Psalm 16:11 talks about you make me known to the path of life. Path of life, right? We had communities, and these communities were church centered, church based, and we no longer doing those things. [00:27:17] Speaker B: Wow. [00:27:17] Speaker A: Does that make sense? [00:27:18] Speaker B: It makes a lot of sense. I, I, I have a good friend of mine in Abaco, which is an island just north of New Providence, and he's, he repeated what you said at the end there. Where, where, where we've kind of fallen away from, you know, just a more scriptural way of life. Like he blamed so many things that, going on in this country on just that, you know what I'm saying? So I thought about him and you said that, you know, I, as I'm listening to the biblical quotes and I see the way, the sequence that you're utilizing as you, as you brilliantly explaining this reality to us, I wonder how many of the people that you see on a regular basis as you begin to share this type of information with them, how receptive are people to what it is you're saying to us right now today? [00:28:24] Speaker A: Oh, they're very receptive. Because the first thing, whenever, if you go to any provider, right. The first thing, I have conversations whenever I'm talking to my people, I'm like, okay, let's identify your learning cell. [00:28:37] Speaker B: You're learning. [00:28:38] Speaker A: What are you, Your learning style. [00:28:40] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Are you military? Are you kinesthetic? Are you visual? So as a counselor, the first couple of things, besides you coming here, the first thing we have to do is give you some basic fundamental knowledge of biology, geography, education, economics, your childhood, some basic things that you understand how this thing called your life works, right. Millie Fuller. He used to talk about teaching and he created a four part system. And I always kind of center on the two parts, right? The first part, right, of teaching is telling about or writing about culture in order to produce the most constructive results. [00:29:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:29:29] Speaker A: What is culture? Culture is what people do. [00:29:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:29:36] Speaker A: And we teach number Two is telling the truth about yourself, about everybody else's history. So that might mean your history, your mom's history, the history of the community in also the history of what was going on, the context live in. Because we can't just separate you from a context. [00:29:58] Speaker B: Right, Right. [00:30:00] Speaker A: So there I want to make sure. [00:30:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:30:03] Speaker A: Because I know our time is short, but. And I know we got to pack a lot in. Yeah, Right. [00:30:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:08] Speaker A: And so when we are talking about that negative self talk, when we are talking about the negativity, right. That ignorance that we're fighting, they. There are research studies that talks about the ability going back to that brain to increase our gray matter and increase our intelligence and our memory. [00:30:30] Speaker C: Wow. [00:30:31] Speaker B: You can increase that. [00:30:33] Speaker A: You can increase that. Right. And so one of the things when it comes to school, right. Or when it comes to learning is we always think that one, it's about memory, how much information a person can know, how many facts that they can know. [00:30:47] Speaker B: Yes. [00:30:47] Speaker A: But the human brain, right. Has a third kind of memory that is fundamental to its growth. So when people are learning, we're not thinking, like, how are we making this baby's brain Explain that. There's a third memory called autobiographical memory. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Autobiographical memory. Okay. I'm learning today. Thank you. [00:31:08] Speaker A: Right. And it's the stories of who we are and what we stand for and how we want the world to be. [00:31:17] Speaker B: Wow. [00:31:18] Speaker A: That's true religious identity. That's what the great teachers, Marcus Garvey, Francis Quest, Wilson, Neom Akbar, Right. These are Yeshua, the Messiah, knowledge of self. We have to know this. So in we. If we don't, if we're not in our image, if we're not practicing habits to kind of reduce the hypertension, to lower our cortisol levels, to drink more waters, then Malachi, four, six. We have to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers. Least I come and I smite the earth with a curse. And the curse is take a look at our children. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Wow. [00:32:07] Speaker C: Wow. [00:32:07] Speaker B: We're living in a curse because of our afraid. [00:32:11] Speaker A: We are afraid to teach them about being black. [00:32:14] Speaker B: Wow. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Afraid of teaching them how to be divine. We are afraid to teach them that they got this power within. And this is why. This is why we need families of true faith to understand that we can pray in how we praying. And we are the most religious, scripturally based people on the planet. We have the most children in the jails today. [00:32:40] Speaker B: Wow. [00:32:41] Speaker A: Are we shouting and kicking over benches and all these things? And we see our children are addicted and killing each other in the streets. [00:32:49] Speaker B: Wow. [00:32:50] Speaker A: We gotta reorient ourselves to our true religious identity. [00:32:55] Speaker C: Right. [00:32:55] Speaker A: We have to get back to the record to talk about our glory, to talk about our renowned history. So we have to read our Bible, but we read it in the very. It's very practical if you read it through the Nazarite eyes, through eyes of true fingers. So what they did, University of South Carolina, I mean South, Southern California, right. They took 65 kids from the hood, low income. Right. Stable environments. It was a mixture of all kids of color. [00:33:32] Speaker C: Right. [00:33:33] Speaker A: So it was Asian kids, Latin kids, melanated kids. [00:33:36] Speaker C: Right. [00:33:37] Speaker A: And they took these kids and for. They took them between the ages of 14 and 18. It was a five year study. And they started giving them information about, you know, who they are. Right. And they started looking at not just who they are, but how they are connected to their communities and how that connects them to the future and how they connected them to a sense of purpose. What they noticed is that these studies, their brain system started to change. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Say what? [00:34:17] Speaker A: Yes, they started to notice that the children, the way they were thinking started to change. In the brain you have two systems. You have like an executive control system. It's a network that kind of focuses on how you do goals, how you learn, you know, how you concentrate. But then you have what's called a default mode network. [00:34:38] Speaker B: Okay? [00:34:40] Speaker A: Right. It's about transcending the here and now. It's about the children not only thinking about their lived experiences, but imagining the future and using their compassion and emotions and gratitude on a higher level. And these children were able to think outside the box. They were no Longer Limited to ABC here, spot 1, 1, 2, 3. They were able to grow their brain, but the key was identity development. [00:35:20] Speaker B: Okay, See, and this is so important as these children are now back in the classrooms and this type of conversation, like I need a Minister of, of Education, I need a Minister of National Security, I need the Christian Council. I need them to hear these stories that you're giving us, these facts that you're giving us these studies that you're g. Given us because there are answers to how we can positively affect the children. Right. As opposed to just staying on this hamster's wheel. And, and they say spinning wheels, not going anywhere, but just going through the motion. And so I'm very appreciative of everything that you're sharing with us today. I want, I want to, if you don't mind, I want, I want to see if we get a call or two in here. If people want to ask you a question. Is that, is that okay? [00:36:12] Speaker A: It's perfect. [00:36:13] Speaker B: All right, I'll open up the phone line. I'll. We'll see if anybody calls us. 3236-2323-2543-1632-5425, 932-54259. Of course, in the family of islands is 242-300-5720. We are powered by BTC on the tax line. That's 422-4790, 422-4796. Of course, we're streaming live on guardiantalkradio.com we're also on Cable Bahamas Channel 969 or BTC Flow Channel 622. Our special guest today, Dr. Nicole Ford. And she, listen, she, she, she's highlighted so many different, in my estimate, answers to some of the problems that we're facing in the schools and the churches, in our homes, just by Dr. Ford, paying attention to identity, use this term. Autobiographical learning. Is that what, is that what it's called? Say it again. [00:37:18] Speaker A: Autobiographical memory. [00:37:20] Speaker B: Memory. So go ahead. [00:37:25] Speaker A: When I'm talking to my clients, it's about understanding that their mind can change, it can grow. Right? This is the whole field of neuroplasticity. But in order to help it grow, the mind has to engage with deep, powerful ideas. And sometimes we have to work backwards. That means we trace the past, we blueprint the present. You have to honor that mother and father. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Okay? [00:37:48] Speaker A: Right. Understand what worked in the past, we keep. The things that didn't work, we can modify. [00:37:55] Speaker B: Okay. [00:37:58] Speaker A: So then our young people and old people, we can engage in a way where we can co create together, right. In our society, in our world, a better place. So when we're thinking about learning and the learning processes, it's about enabling young, old, right, rich, poor to think about the kind of world that we want to live in, but also the kind of world we want to create. That's good education. [00:38:29] Speaker B: I agree, I agree. And Dr. Ford, I'm wondering because in many instances there seems to be such a huge disconnect between the younger generation and the older generation or sometimes just even between parents and their children. Is that something that you're seeing a lot in your practice and how, and if so, how are you dealing with it? [00:38:50] Speaker A: Yes, a lot of times. Once again, going back to that, that negative script, some limiting beliefs, those limiting beliefs, those negative scripts. Sometimes we have negative scripts about who our parents are because we assume we grow, but we don't allow Other people to grow. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Wow. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Because if it didn't happen in front of my eyes, if I wasn't there to watch it, it don't exist. [00:39:11] Speaker B: Right? Right. [00:39:13] Speaker A: But people grow. And so sometimes you have to ask yourself, you have to stop, stop. And you have to literally ask yourself, okay, where, where is this thought coming from? [00:39:23] Speaker B: Right. [00:39:24] Speaker A: Identify the thoughts. Right? Identify the beliefs. And this is important. This is important because once you identify the belief, then you can challenge it. Sometimes we just let the negative stuff go through our mind unfiltered, right? Just. [00:39:43] Speaker B: We don't even know that's a thing. You saying identify the thought? I'm like, what do people like? What do you mean identify a thought? Like that's a thing. You can identify it. [00:39:52] Speaker A: You can identify your thought. Right? You can literally. Sometimes it's about not just reading, but it's also observing your own life. So if you have thoughts, for example, I'm a failure, or I don't deserve happiness, or I'm not good enough, those thoughts, like planting in the garden, they're like little seeds, okay? And the garden is your mind. When you're planning these seeds or these messages from childhood too, they shape the thoughts, they shape your feelings and actions, and they're going to reinforce this negative self perception. They're going to reinforce this and inferiority complex that we often have. So once you recognize the negative thought pattern, right, that you believe, holding you back evidence, look for proof of examples that contradict that negative belief. [00:40:43] Speaker B: Okay? [00:40:45] Speaker A: Challenge it. Don't say it's one and done. Well, it's always, as a man thinking, so shall it be. Wait a minute now. What if this is not the original thought? [00:40:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:40:54] Speaker A: You can cultivate positive beliefs. So if you have that 80, what we doing with that 20, you can actively replace those negative thoughts with more positive, empowered, empowering ones. And it's not one of those, oh, boom, I just feel good, you know, I'm a good person. What Actions. It requires actions. [00:41:17] Speaker B: That's key. We got a text here, Dr. Ford. Good day. What if a parent doesn't honor the children? Do you still check when they don't want you to? So that's the texter. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Can you repeat the last part? If the parents don't honor the children. [00:41:33] Speaker B: Do you still check when they don't want you to? [00:41:37] Speaker A: So check what part that's saying check. [00:41:41] Speaker B: So they're saying, I'm just, I'm just gonna interpret it for you. If, if a parent doesn't honor the children. Oh, so should the children, I guess, respect the parents if the parents aren't respecting the children. [00:41:58] Speaker A: I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna say it in a way like this, about when you don't control your own environment. [00:42:03] Speaker B: Okay? [00:42:04] Speaker A: Right. Because it's still about the environment. [00:42:06] Speaker C: Right. [00:42:08] Speaker A: A person goes to the library. I don't own the library. Right, right. And there's certain rules about that library. They might say, be quiet or you have to leave the premises. [00:42:18] Speaker B: Right, Right. [00:42:19] Speaker A: So you can still have an adverse and negative environment and use that as fuel, as in, hey, my. My mom got it. Respect her rules. Let me go ahead and make sure I focus on these grades so I can get a scholarship, so I can leave and go to school and have my own place. [00:42:37] Speaker B: Okay? So. [00:42:38] Speaker A: So the respect is still there. If a person goes to jail, you still got to follow the rules of that environment because you don't control it. [00:42:47] Speaker B: So as children, as we're being reared, we may not feel like our parents, you know, are quote, unquote, honoring us or looking out for our best interest. But you're saying, listen, you got to work in that environment. You don't control the environment, and eventually, if you set yourself up well enough, you can be out of there and in the type of environment you want. Is that what you're saying? [00:43:12] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Okay. [00:43:13] Speaker A: Because it's still a part of discipline. [00:43:15] Speaker C: Right. [00:43:16] Speaker A: Some of us had bad, sort of neglectful environments. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:43:22] Speaker A: And we're not the first generation, but we still continue to cultivate what is in my control. My control is. Is if I know my parent, for lack of a better word, but still honoring our mother and father. So your days can be long. If I know my parent is a stickler for a clean house. I'm doing things so she. We can minimize contact. My room is clean. The dishes are straight. Dinner is made up. [00:43:50] Speaker B: Right. [00:43:51] Speaker C: Eat. [00:43:51] Speaker A: I am still controlling how she reacts because I do my part. [00:43:56] Speaker B: Right. [00:43:58] Speaker A: Does that make sense? [00:43:59] Speaker B: No, it makes a lot of sense. Let's see here. This. This next texture says you have a parent that didn't love the child from birth. Okay. Left. [00:44:10] Speaker A: It happens, too. [00:44:12] Speaker B: Left the baby in the hospital, then gave it away. Then gave it away. The. The child is grown. Should the adult still check for the living parents, although the parent doesn't have love for the child? So this. This is a person who may have been that person who was left. They're asking, should I. Should I be checking for the parents who didn't check for me? [00:44:33] Speaker A: Okay, so first let's talk about that trauma. Right. And that would be the first place I Would say is, we got to talk about the trauma script. [00:44:45] Speaker C: Right. [00:44:45] Speaker A: We got to talk about what happened first. So before we even get to mom, mom and dad on a, on a, on a one to five scale, it's going to be like, first, where are you at mentally? How do you feel about what happened? How does that affect where you are now? Right? [00:45:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:45:03] Speaker A: How do we do that? We have to talk about this childhood of abandonment, rejection, feeling unwanted, feeling unloved. And then once we identify those things, now we have to cultivate things that's gonna counter that. [00:45:21] Speaker B: Okay, okay. And that, and that's so in your field, that's what you do. You. You help people to find the ways to counter these things. [00:45:32] Speaker A: Yes. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:33] Speaker A: And so if you had a childhood neglectful parent, Right. Once you counter that abandonment, once you are able to look at your trauma and get to a place where you are starting to feel more safe and you are still building self worth. I'm worthy. And you are challenging the negative thoughts, and you sometimes even take relationship risk. It might not be initially with that biological parent. It might be through someone else where you're feeling safe enough to be around people based off of reciprocity. [00:46:11] Speaker B: Okay? [00:46:13] Speaker A: Right. Because we make sure people earn it. People still have to earn it. Right. And so there is when the Bible say, you know, you know, we got to forgive and we have to love. Right. Part of that is learning how to love and cultivate the divinity within yourself. But you have to be connected to other people. That's going to give you examples of that as people of true Christian faith. [00:46:38] Speaker B: Right? [00:46:39] Speaker C: Right. [00:46:39] Speaker B: Right. [00:46:40] Speaker A: And so with that, then you need to be part communities of faith. For example, the holy cryptic church, right. Of the Black Messiah that not only show you how to heal from that, but they create an environment of, hey, let's get to work. Hey, you worthy? Right. There's a system. There's a way of life. There's a path of life. Here's some prayer, here's some meditation. Here's some. Here's some exercise. Why? Because we have to regulate your parasympathetic nervous system. Because since young you have been overexposed to stress and trauma and now are disrupted, regulated. [00:47:23] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. [00:47:25] Speaker A: And these things, the prayer, the meditation, the reading the scripture, the doing the good work, now you're cultivating different habits to keep yourself in a more mindful state. [00:47:40] Speaker B: Right? Right. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Does that make sense? [00:47:44] Speaker B: It makes total sense. And I wish you had more time, but I know you got to run to do this great work of yours with another client. I Was your client today. But I appreciate it. So. [00:47:56] Speaker A: We appreciate it. We appreciate it. Thank you so much. So just remember, right, we can renew our mind. Romans 12:2, right? And we can do that, but you have to set your mind on being amongst those people, being amongst those individuals that want to do the same. Because there's two types of people in this world. For the young lady thinking about the parent, agreeable and disagreeable, I'm either one of the other. I would either go forth this day and make everybody's life miserable, or I will go forth and not allow anyone to make my life miserable. And then you begin your day. I want her to do some deep breathing. I want her to take some deep, full breaths. I want her to take a moment of mindfulness, and I want her to go within. Have a great day. Let's get it right. Wednesday, everybody. [00:48:45] Speaker B: Yes, Indeed, indeed. This Dr. Nicole Ford with us all the way from Chicago, Illinois, today. Is it cold up there right now? [00:48:54] Speaker A: It is a wonderful 65 degrees. [00:48:56] Speaker B: Okay, that's freezing for us. That's like. That's freezing for us. [00:49:00] Speaker C: But. [00:49:00] Speaker B: But I know that's not cold for Chicago. That's like the deep. The deep part of the Bahamas. Winter. 65. Oh, no, we ain't going to school today. No. But I do definitely thank you for your time. I know that what you said today definitely impacted the listeners in some way, shape or form. I think people really, really are listening because you. You brought it a different way with regard to, you know, smoothly inserting the scriptures into the conversation. I thought that was very powerful. I want to issue the. A beautiful rest of the day, and thank you so much for your time. We'll bring you on another time and you can spend the whole day. But thank you so, so very much. [00:49:49] Speaker A: Have a great day, everybody. [00:49:50] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Namaste, my sister. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Namaste. [00:49:53] Speaker B: That was Dr. Nicole Ford. [00:49:57] Speaker A: Who really. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Really took the time to share some. Some ideas that I pray we can, you know, bring into our schools. You know, this idea of autobiographical. And I did. Did you know you could actually grow your brain? You could grow the gray matter in your brain? You could do that. See, Kermit, stop looking at me. Standing me. When I said that you could grow your brain, Kermit, he wasn't listening. You was walking around using. There's some powerful things we've shared today, Kermit, but we gotta run to the news right now. When we come back, we can chime in a little bit more what Dr. Ford was talking about. But also we had a question from yesterday that I want to dive into about the JCNP and Junko Nu and you know, when things can get back to normal and the Junkanoo Authority and of course, whatever else you may want to throw in there. 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[00:57:58] Speaker B: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM streaming. [00:58:02] Speaker A: On guardiantalkradio.com and the Guardian Radio app. Nassau, Bahamas. Sam. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Welcome back to Guardian radio today, the September 3rd edition of our show. The rains are down. I can't see outside, but I could hear the thunder and I could hear the rain pouring. So I pray that those of you who are on the streets are being safe and you know, those who may have leaky roofs, etc. You know, I definitely have been there. I know, I know how you feel. So I just pray that you get through this rainstorm as best you can. I know the children are going to be leaving school in another couple of hours. The streets will be wet. So please, as you're driving by, you know, make sure you don't splash people walking, pay attention to the streets and, you know, just take your time. You know what I mean? So we again want to thank Dr. Nicole Ford for being with us for the first hour of, of today's show. I, I, I, I, I pray that it was something that, you know, assisted you in some way. As we get back into the new school year, get back into the new traffic season and, and deal with mental health today. We had an open line and there were, there were some things that were kind of left on the table that I, I wanted to allow people to discuss or talk about today. There was a texter yesterday who was asking about the, and I'm just pulling up a story to read a little bit. The JCN had suspended Junkanoo activities until further notice following the Government proposed authority. The texter was asking about whether or not the suspension had been lifted or if it would be lifted soon. And I'm going to read a little bit from. This is an Eyewitness news story. All right. And this is all the way from July 22, 2025. Devonte Hannah. All right. Would have written this. It says Nassau, Bahamas, the junk in the cooperation of New Providence has reportedly suspended all Junu practices and parades. Government's controversial Junkunu authority bill and a strongly worded statement. The JCNP says it does not accept the proposed bill which they argue undermines 21 years of self management. Since former Prime Minister Perry Christie empowered the Junko community in 20 in 2004. It's puzzling why the government would wish to reverse the decision after 21 years of self determination, harmony and success. [01:01:27] Speaker C: Success. [01:01:28] Speaker B: The JCNB said the cooperation alleges that political interference and a disgruntled group of junk renewers with ties to high ranking officials are attempting to dismantle the jcnp, even offering jobs to members in exchange for support of the proposed new government run Junkanu body. They've also made it clear if the government takes over Junkunu as we know it will shift from a community tradition to a paid performer performance which the JCN with which the JCNP would need $45 million annually to deliver. All right. Since then there has been some public. All right. You know, there's still not, I guess, overarching agreement or harmony between the Junkanoo community and the government. On 11 August 2025, the government held the first public consultation on this new Junkanoo authority. Then before that there were mixed views right, from the Junkanoo community. But I want to dive into this and of course, whatever else you may want to want to jump into, I'm happy to know that the minister is saying, Right Honorable Mario Boleg is saying that it's not going to affect this year's parades. Right. They still will have to do a lot of things to get the authority in place, you know, if it comes to fruition. So I'm happy to know that this year parade I want to say we'll go without a hitch. We'll see. But I pray that's the case. I know that we as Bahamians, we love John Canoe. I don't think, however, that we really understand the intricacies of what it takes to have this parade, especially in Nassau brought to Bay street and Shirley street every year. I for one, I mean, I've had an opportunity to get close enough to John Kanu to at least appreciate what that is like. But I think for the most part we just love John Kanu. We just know John Kanu is going to happen. But I don't think we understand the dedication, the self sacrifice and quite frankly the personal finances that it takes to put a whole parade together. Right. And we've heard the numbers of 20, 30 million dollars being spent by the Junkanoo community every year to bring these parades to Bay street and Shirley street respectively. Right. And like I said, there's a whole another conversation that I know I want to have about this whole reality of Junko and what. What it is that we use with regard to cray paper and. And all the different things. And that's another conversation. But I want to open the lines today. 323-623-2325-431632-54259. The family of islands. 2423-00-5720. Our text lines today. 423-24-796 caller you live on Guardian Radio today. [01:05:02] Speaker C: Hi, good day, how are you? [01:05:04] Speaker B: I'm well, how are you? [01:05:05] Speaker C: I'll be good. In regarding to this Junko thing, let me tell you this right. I know exactly was in charge of that something with I. I won't call his name, okay. But it's him and his wife. They are all over this thing for a money reason. All right. So here's a solution any. Because I remember as a child, all right and my people were from the unity in a west street going up on the Hill by St. Francis, right? [01:05:38] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [01:05:39] Speaker A: Okay. [01:05:40] Speaker C: Getting dressed like around 4:00 clock in the morning you put on your nice what you get for Christmas, Mr. Overall, you know and you go up there and you're so glad with you understand? [01:05:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:55] Speaker C: And you could stand around and some arties you ain't see for years. You ain't see. You understand? [01:06:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:03] Speaker C: That was John Canoe. [01:06:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I have a picture in that same area as a little boy getting ready to go to wash. Yeah. [01:06:09] Speaker C: You hear an everybody stuff once you find one fake. They used to have the bleachers I guess. But you could have stand run and then you hear that John Canoe convict really named Sweden. I think he died not territory. Then they reach out. Yeah. Come on. Listen everybody chair. Yeah, but now you putting this money into it. That's why it's causing all this foolishness. Listen, the love of money is the root of all evils. Hey, okay, you want to have your own thing go on the sports center all right, so let's all want that. [01:06:45] Speaker B: We look like that we. That might be what happened. I mean, you know, that's, that's. That's been. That's one of the things that's been put on the table, you know, here at Gladstone Road. [01:06:56] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't care what happened. [01:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:58] Speaker C: You hear me? But in a way, me as a child and all my good childhood memory. All right. You ain't gonna erase that out of my head or. Because you want money today, everything. People want money for money. And I don't mind. All right? Money, money. Answer it. Or you. The Bible tells you that as well, but come on, man. This is tradition. [01:07:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:20] Speaker C: You hear? If you want to do that, you'll go with them. Set with Junkanoo Carnival and whoever. Go to Sports center, have all of that. Have a different promotional, whatever. But leave the memories of people like me, me. You hear me? Leave our memories alone today. The only thing you could do now with Dono, you go on maybe Shirley Street. You get a good sight and they don't even. It even ain't a full show, but leave that alone. Leave whatever you call it. The dog. But you know that sound, when you get that sound with, with the drums coming up against the building. We're going. [01:08:00] Speaker B: The echo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:08:03] Speaker C: Leave that alone, for God's sake. Leave it alone before our ancestors don't come hide, my Lord. Anyway, you have a nice baby. [01:08:10] Speaker B: You do. Thank you for the, for the call, you know, and I, I appreciate the caller. I, I, I. And that's why I want to have this conversation, because I don't really think people understand, you know, when I read that the JCNP, you know, basically gave a bill of. Of what, $45 million to the government if you wouldn't take over this parade and pay us. That's close to the money. When they, when they were doing these studies, Dr. Nicolette Bethel did a study, and I think the number may have been, you know, 30 plus million dollars that people are literally spending out of their own money. I mean, out of their own pockets. I don't think we really appreciate that. There already is a lot of money being spent. I had a caller the last time we had this conversation say that, you know, John Canoe shouldn't be paid. You know, you should just be out there for the love of the culture. I 100% disagree. Right. But let me get to the next caller here on Guardian Radio today. Call it your life on Guardian Radio today. Caller going once. I can hear you. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. [01:09:32] Speaker C: How you doing? [01:09:33] Speaker B: I'm well, man. Thanks for calling. [01:09:34] Speaker C: I can't hear you too good, but I can say what I have to say. [01:09:37] Speaker B: Sure. [01:09:37] Speaker C: I don't. Junk isn't really. Juno is an evil thing, you know, you think it's evil is an evil and wicked thing that isn't Christian at all. [01:09:46] Speaker B: You don't think so? Okay, why. Why you say that? [01:09:50] Speaker C: Because all the blood and threatening chaos we putting into it, right? And then we go and we sit down and have a good time watching these costumes up. And it's like worshiping idols. [01:10:04] Speaker B: You think the people worshiping the costumes. [01:10:07] Speaker C: That's what it's be. You wouldn't want to see what would happen if you touch one of those costumes or. [01:10:12] Speaker B: But if someone. If someone. If someone touched your car in the wrong way and you. And you say, you know, don't touch my car because I paid all this money for this car. [01:10:21] Speaker C: You. [01:10:21] Speaker B: That mean you worship in the car? [01:10:24] Speaker C: If I taught in Christianity and someone touch my car, it's no thing. That's only iron. I don't see a key in that. [01:10:33] Speaker B: So what if they take a key and they start scraping in the imminent. That that's okay, too. What if they take a key and start scraping in the imminent. That's okay too. [01:10:43] Speaker C: You know, I'll get upset, but I wouldn't want to kill them or fight them. [01:10:49] Speaker B: I ain't saying you should kill them, but. But you would be upset because, come on, that's a paint job you got to do. And I think that's the same what. [01:10:56] Speaker C: Is going on out there, okay. Going on out with the. In the crowds and stuff. And then another thing is this. They take our stocks, their money, right? They pay for benches, bleachers. They pay for boundaries to keep us. So we got to pay for seat. They taking our money and doing this and we got to pay for seats. [01:11:20] Speaker B: But on base street you got to pay. But surely she ain't got to pay. [01:11:24] Speaker C: The street in the back road. That's where all the stuff. That's where everything is going on, right? [01:11:31] Speaker B: So, yeah, man, that's good at junking. So you was good at junking. [01:11:37] Speaker C: Street is only so. Only so big. [01:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah, he was good. [01:11:39] Speaker C: Probably can't afford these feet. It's not playing up in the Bogdale. [01:11:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So you just go to jungle. [01:11:46] Speaker C: They want to charge us for these things, this arm money. [01:11:49] Speaker B: So you want to answer me or you just go to Jungle? Thank you, man. I appreciate you calling. Even though it evil is go, buddy. But that's a yes for me. That's a yes for me, buddy. But, but, but, but listen, I remember. I remember being taught that narrative that John Canoe was evil and that it wasn't Christian, and that's a lie from the pit of hell. I ain't just talking to you, Carl. I talking to anybody who thinking like that. That's, that's. That Junkanoo is a. A remnant of, of our African identity that remains after being whitewashed as a people for 52 years of independence and hundreds of years of just being colonized. You understand what I'm saying? That's your opinion, though. You know what I mean? I'm just talking to you, caller. There are people who feel that way. But, but unfortunately, anything that's African, anything that's black is said to be wicked and evil. And if you really feel that way, then Jesus must be evil too, because he was black, right? So at the end of the day, this conversation about money, right, I don't think people understand that you cannot go to Bay street without money, the seed money that the government provides for the Junkanoo groups, especially the A groups. I might as well let you know that that can only build one costume, one lead piece properly. Okay? That might be a banner, maybe. Okay? If you understand how much money is spent, not. Don't even mention building the costumes. But you have to pay people in trucks when you transporting these costumes, right? All of the things that the JCNP has been doing for the past 21 years. And I don't know. No, no, no, people say you don't hold no water for people. I don't know, water for nobody. I just letting you all know what I know, right? If the government and, and I hear it, Aaron and Ca Nury this morning, right? And this narrative of, you know, the government ain't gonna be doing nothing. They, they, they, this, this, this, this, this Junko new authority can be independent. Y' all believe that? You believe it can be independent? What. What does that look like, right? Who's gonna put the people, the independent people, in the position to be independent? These are the questions I have. I mean, if you have a different understanding of it, Please, please call 3236-2323-2543-1632-5429. Dread 5720. Why can't the JCNP continue to run the parades in the. In Nassau and be at the forefront of any real money that could enter Junkino? Let me tell you what I mean. I. There's a conversation that's not, not Being hot about this whole situation about the potential of Junkanoo and the fact that we can. We can garner sponsorship from outside of the Bahamas. We could garner global sponsorship. Who is going to control that money? You understand this just me being a Bahamian trying to put some things on the table. All right, let's run to the caller here on Guardian Radio today. Call you life. [01:15:31] Speaker C: Hey, what's up? [01:15:32] Speaker B: How you doing, man? I think you got to turn the radio down maybe. [01:15:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:15:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:37] Speaker C: Okay. Now, I know they put a lot into it. Now, I disagree with you. But let me tell you how much government this month? Over 30. $30,000. [01:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:47] Speaker C: That Le cost going. Cost about cost that amount. Yeah. [01:15:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:52] Speaker C: Well, I know you probably being alive like. [01:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:55] Speaker C: Now I. I used to enjoy Junkano because I think that's the greatest art form I could see. I mean the things. But they could. Fame is really naturally talented. But those calls come on some look for real. I mean. [01:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:16:09] Speaker C: I. I applaud that, man. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:12] Speaker C: I go for that. [01:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah. It's genius, man. It's genius. Yes. [01:16:16] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, man. We got to say that ain't easy. [01:16:20] Speaker B: No. [01:16:20] Speaker C: Then they advance to the dancing group. [01:16:24] Speaker B: Choreographed dancing. [01:16:25] Speaker C: Yes. [01:16:25] Speaker B: And that's. [01:16:26] Speaker C: You got to put that together too. [01:16:27] Speaker B: Exactly. [01:16:28] Speaker C: And that. That. That just started coming a couple years ago. And so I think more money needed to be into it. But I'll say this. The trouble only start since that fellow won't bring up his group I won't care to name with him. Yeah. That's when. That's when the trouble really started. [01:16:49] Speaker B: That's when it started. [01:16:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:52] Speaker C: You see, if that didn't come about. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:55] Speaker C: Everything was convenient smooth. Really. It could have been the same if he gave his group another name. [01:17:02] Speaker B: This would have been you. [01:17:05] Speaker C: No noise making in the market. [01:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:07] Speaker C: You know, so I. I think they needed. You know, he. He. All he has to do is say we the breakaway Wally boys or we name this that. But they don't give himself another name. Other groups leave other groups. The one family came up from this accident. [01:17:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:25] Speaker C: And they just said he could break away. We can come rename our. So why he won't come One can a name and you know, man. And then they get involved with it. This will cause a bunch of chaos right there. [01:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:37] Speaker C: That one move. I used to go to jungle. I enjoy. I didn't. I mean my younger days. I used to enjoy my. Just to go there and look and see how them brothers put them costs. [01:17:47] Speaker B: You're like me. Yeah. [01:17:48] Speaker C: We are genius. I. I Must come in. But I think it didn't have to go this far just because of who he is. That is the problem. [01:17:56] Speaker B: Anyhow, thank you. All right. Thank you, Carlo. I'm gonna get into the, to the politics of the Bali boys. I can be honest with you. That's something that I really think. I wish could have been, you know, dealt with internally. But, you know, the caller, the caller feels that, that, that may have been the kind of the, the crux of this whole, this whole matter. I, I, I can't say that's the case, but that's the caller opinion. This text says I have missed Ennius. If the government want to control the Junko nurse, then give them the money to rush those guys, take their own money and build their costume. See, that's the, that's what he's saying right now. That's what he's saying right now. You understand? Don't make it look like it just become a money thing. It always was about money. If you want to consistently be on Bay street, you have to literally budget, right? That have to be a part of a budget. Every year you got to take out 1, 1, 2 grand, 3 grand, 4 grand, 5 grand. If you just one individual, you, you will hit two parades. You understand? And I don't think a lot of people understand that. So, you know, this whole, this whole authority now, right, I'm happy to see that there's public consultation. I don't know if maybe that should have happened a long time ago. I don't think this is the first iteration of the bill or the proposed bill. But, you know, it is something that, that I know people, you know, have immense emotions about it. Right? So now the other aspect of this conversation is the suspension of the parades, etc. [01:19:43] Speaker C: Right. [01:19:44] Speaker B: By the JCNP. I come to you right now, caller. What I want people to also appreciate is that the JCNP is not a separate entity from the groups. The JCNP is made up of representatives of the groups that speak on behalf of the group. I don't think that's also being understood. Let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio today. Calling you live. [01:20:08] Speaker C: How are you doing, uncle? [01:20:09] Speaker B: A great man, first time caller. [01:20:12] Speaker C: All right, so three points on. Like, to me, I have, I have a feeling that this is all in a move from back in the days. Remember, they didn't want junk on a base on, on day Street. And if this is going to be how they say it's going to be, Bay street, this almost the most junking off of Bay Street. [01:20:26] Speaker B: Wow. [01:20:27] Speaker C: Believe me that my third one is that they have to realize the fans. The fans, people who may not participate in Junko still have a voice in this. Because without the fans being there, Junko still is not Junkin up. [01:20:38] Speaker B: That's true. [01:20:39] Speaker C: And also it's not just the jcnp, the government and the Junkano Group. It's the third, it's the fourth investment and it's the Bahamian people. [01:20:45] Speaker B: That's true. [01:20:46] Speaker C: That goes there. [01:20:47] Speaker B: Yes. [01:20:47] Speaker C: And then there's one thing I like to see for them to improve in Junkano. So it could be really a cultural thing. Every year we notice that for the years gone by from the music point of it, that Junkanoo. We know we have the talent, we do all these things in the Junkanoo. But when you look at it, we need to tie in the bands, the behemoth groups and have the junk on the group. Pick a group, put their name in the bowl and pick a group and have them write a theme song for Junko group. That's where we could have the full culture into it. [01:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:15] Speaker C: And money can be wide or dispensed because you can make money from the music. It might sell internationally. [01:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:20] Speaker C: It can contribute back into the country. And the musicians will have our contribution into junk noodle. The government should give them seed money in that instant that whose song is the best song or the whole beheming world for that song or that year will get, you know, I mean, a prize money. Wow. Because you have to tie junk on that. We have to be. We have to open up our vision in our mind for that. That's where these people in like Freddie Munism and all them who have band and entertainers could get involved in Junkuno from the musician part of it where Junkuno groups like Valley Boys and all them will be able to pick every. Like any one of those like KBDM who could write up a theme song for them and that will promote Junkuno in a full form of the Bahamian culture in it. Because when you look at the course of Junkuno, it's mainly because is our culture. But so many things we have to import to express our culture. From the gray paper, the feathers, the cardboards, the glue. The glue. So all these pains are a high cost of Junkuno. Mind you, the talent and the culture is ours. But what infuses that is that when you put that all together is the importation of these things. [01:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:31] Speaker C: You know, I mean. And we need to put more emphasis on the themes because when we say it's our culture, but we still show what happened and we show a culture from China. We show a culture from this. So if it's truly our culture, let's go deep into it and express it to the nation. If they want to move it internationally, give it that funding to do it. The Junko groups, them come down, they come together, find the middle ground. Because it is culture that we're talking about. It's not just the money part of it. Because the money part of it has to be involved for culture to be expanded to the world. And I mean, so it's a greater conversation that need to become. Come together from both sides of the. Of the coin. And the beheming people have to be a part of that. [01:23:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:11] Speaker C: Whether they rush or whether they find themselves as a fan base of it. Because it is everybody participation in it that makes Junko what it is. [01:23:19] Speaker B: Right, Right. [01:23:20] Speaker C: I remember. [01:23:21] Speaker B: Appreciate it, man. 332-362-3232-325431-63254. 4259 in the family of violence. 2423-00-5720. That's another call. Kermit. Yeah. Let's get back to the phone lines here on on Guardian Radio today. Calling you live. [01:23:43] Speaker C: Good day, uncle. How you doing, man? [01:23:44] Speaker B: I'm great, man. How you doing? [01:23:45] Speaker C: I'm okay. Hey, Uncle, I don't know if I'll be in the law, but I think I'll be a little long. Right? But guess what I mean, like, okay, when we looking at him, basic leadership and like, you see gender and all of that, right. Do you think gender would cause a nation to be divided when disabled? If you're elevated because you're a woman, you express that you bring the glass ceiling and you encourage all the women to bring the gas feeling. Even though that we have like say about 30% or 20% of our family, then you have like, they're looking to get basically 100%. So do you think that this will be good for society when we express our sex to see Bill, this is my. I'm a man, so encourage all the man. Or it would be better for the savior. I'm a Bahamian. I encourage all behemoth. Any behemoth, man or woman. If you reach that pinnacle, you, you know, you, you would be rewarded. Which would you think it'd be better to express your agenda when you arrive? To divide or to be neutral so that you can be basically united. [01:24:47] Speaker B: So I understand the question and I think ultimately with this conversation, you want a good Representation of the population being represented in the House of Parliament. So if you're looking at the layout or the lay of the land right now in the House of Assembly, it's a, well, politics in this on the whole is a male dominated, you know, game or reality. Right? But, but, but how can we have men only? I know that's not the case now, right, but that's, that's how it was. How could we have a dominant number of men making decisions that quite frankly may not resonate with the women? Right. I don't think, I don't think we should just have a hard and fast approach to say you have to have 40 or however many percent women. I don't, I don't think that's necessarily the answer. [01:25:53] Speaker C: I don't think we should even mention to say if he's a man or if he's a woman or when you get that it's to be putting that like that because you know, in the public they say you man, woman, look on both sides of men or women. They feel good. Why are you saying that? And they feel, they feel, they don't really like that because they probably like to say, relate up certain things that happen with them by women or men, you know, and you know, then you have this, this woman come and say anything when you know the nature of them. [01:26:19] Speaker B: Well, I, I think the conversation, that, that conversation is a conversation that the political parties need to have because they are the ones who bring the candidates to us. [01:26:30] Speaker C: But you know, but you know, another thing was when I looked at that people in general, right? Hey, uncle, now you as a human, right? When you in this life and you, you, you go out there, who you represent? [01:26:41] Speaker B: I gotta, I gotta represent myself and my family. [01:26:44] Speaker C: Okay? But, but firstly you, your uncle, you gotta step on your, your uncle. And then it's you first. But your family is, is param one. Because without you, you know, it ain't no family. Yeah, but, but what I'm saying, you know, I mean like the same persons who have no confidence in, in themselves who they are identified as a human. Because then we look in the papers. I mean, when looking in the Guardian, right? I mean, I'm a Guardian obituary, right? I look through it every week, right? And you know, it's sad to know that if you even to say when you look at the age of the person and you look at the picture, but you see this other thing where it's like basically, I don't know, you have to basically wonder if that's the person because of the Vapes and all these other things. They take these photos and they put it there. Obituary, you think it's right? Because a person's knowing would you be able to identify? [01:27:37] Speaker B: Well, you know, you know most people don't know when they're gonna die. So they don't have like a, they don't have obituary picture ready. So they gotta find the best picture they can put in there. [01:27:47] Speaker C: Yeah. But regardless, don't you think it'll be better actually the person who, with whoever it was in their life to show the actual photos. [01:27:57] Speaker B: But they can put the thing, they. [01:27:58] Speaker C: Can put version or a tattoo or a hero version or whatever. [01:28:02] Speaker B: But that's the person they remember. They're gonna put the picture of the person. [01:28:06] Speaker C: Okay, so that was more important like a fantasy. But, but you know what my thing is when you've been. We talk about, at least I mentioned about this from feminization or the table politics or whatever in our society. Right. I have nothing against women. Right. But you know what? I have a problem against humans. When they can't be who they are supposed to be. When they look in a mirror and they see themselves, but they alter themselves in such a way bleaching, using all them big hair eye and all these foolishness. And when you beat IEI saying it's police commissioner, governor general, any high office in this country, these younger women, they are lost. [01:28:47] Speaker B: You gotta run to a break. [01:28:48] Speaker C: When I look at the past and they say like 50 years or 40 years ago and you look at videos and stuff and you see, you see, you see natural. 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[01:32:16] Speaker B: Welcome back to Guardian Radio today. I am your host, Dr. Cleveland W. Eneas III, also known as Kahun Ankusara. We only have about 10 minutes or less left in the show. Let's run to the phone lines and then I'll jump to the text line afterwards. Caller. Oh okay, okay. That that call is not coming. Let's run the restaurant to the text line. This this text that says uncle. On the topic of gender, studies have shown that women are that when women are in charge, women look out for their own interests. Statistically, however, studies also show that men look out for the interests of both men and women. Simple. If we elect women, they will seek their own interests and disregard the men and boys. Statistically, my name is study Man. What is what the study what the study is what the study is. Let me see what else they saying. And Cleveland, Cleveland was absolutely correct. When I look back in at the black women of yesteryear, say the 1960s, they were conservatively dressed, well disciplined, fit and spoke eloquently. And some of them were not even the best Educated, but they had self respect. Now black women go to university and walk around with their private hanging out. What have we become? Boy, you're a lot on these women. First of all, I like to, when you start talking about studies, just name the study. When you say women only gonna look out for women, I find that hard to believe because women running the country as it is right now. And if you don't believe me, walk into any bank, any food store, any, any wholesale store, you know, any, any store in the mall. Women, women, women on the ground, women on the front line. And they, and they, and they run in, you know, the households as well. Right? Because unfortunately, as men, you know, we, we, we either get locked up or we don't like women no more or, you know, things happening. So it ain't just men or women. The family has been compromised. Okay? What is sad and what I've seen in the past and even I guess in, in the present is that a lot of women don't want women to lead. That's the part that's, that's, that's, that's kind of scary for me when you start talking about a woman leading. You got women who just jump up and talk about, you know, man's boys, elite woman names, boys lead. Man. I'm like, okay, we don't, we don't have culture. That's why we saying these things. Let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian radio today. Quality alive, my friend. Yes, sir. [01:35:07] Speaker C: You, you, you on to something. Let me turn this thing down. [01:35:10] Speaker B: Yeah, please, a minute. Yes, sir. [01:35:20] Speaker C: Terribly sorry about that. [01:35:21] Speaker B: No problem, man. [01:35:22] Speaker C: Yeah, you on to something. And you talk about the women that are now in charge. The governor general, a woman. The commissioner police, a woman. The head of the senate, a woman. The speaker of those assembly, a woman. Then Mr. Davis and Mr. Cooper is off the island from the, from the. When the PLP was in power. Once Mr. Davis and Mr. Cooper is off the island, Ms. Glenis, Hannah Martin is in charge. [01:35:55] Speaker B: Acting prime minister. [01:35:56] Speaker C: Acting prime minister. Now, the Defense Force, if Mr. Cooper and Mr. Davis choose to carry the defense horse, the gentleman that's in charge of the defense force, they have a woman and a man that is his deputy. Nine out of 10 chances, the woman will be in charge. The woman that take the whole country over the top, the six, seven top positions in the country. Woman is woman. Now, I don't think I heard the caller say that the women would look out for the women. [01:36:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a taxi. Yeah. [01:36:36] Speaker C: Could I say this as A man. [01:36:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:38] Speaker C: I believe when the women in charge of the country run a little better, I. I see. [01:36:43] Speaker B: I'm glad you said it. [01:36:44] Speaker C: The country. More women run the country more like a home. [01:36:48] Speaker B: Ah. [01:36:51] Speaker C: I've been running my house for the last nine, 10 years as a meal of the passing of my wife. [01:36:57] Speaker B: Right. [01:36:57] Speaker C: But I still never believe I could have run this the way she. She would have run it. [01:37:01] Speaker B: I feel you. I feel you. [01:37:03] Speaker C: You know, let's be real with this, man. And even when the women in charge, it seems like we get a little more done. Little woman. I mean, and, and, and brother, let's be real. Let's talk real. Let's talk man. Let's talk real. The man. Them eyes looking at so much different things. A lot of them being focused on getting a job. You know, most of the women come to do. No, no mind. You get some chauvinist women too, now. [01:37:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:37:38] Speaker C: The real women, they come to get the job done. [01:37:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:37:41] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? The woman. The woman ain't looking at no little short skirt, no tight pants. The woman here that the woman come to do the work and that's it. I. I work in government corporations under their women with chairman and men with chairman. The woman ain't looking at that. [01:37:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I think most of the Permanent Secretaries. I will. Yeah. [01:38:03] Speaker C: And thank God for that to a certain extent. But like I said, though, you get some of them who chauvin. [01:38:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. [01:38:09] Speaker C: But, but, but the majority of them means well, man. [01:38:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:38:13] Speaker C: So let us, you know. [01:38:16] Speaker B: Get them a chance, man. Get them a chance. [01:38:18] Speaker C: I think I live in a constituency and I think as a Member of Parliament. Not, not, not, not. Let's not talk about the. The speak about. Of it. Let's talk about just her being a Member of Parliament. The people that gravitate around this woman. The only next member Parliament I think ever was in Bamboo Town. Ladies would have been attendants and bears. [01:38:41] Speaker B: Wow. [01:38:42] Speaker C: The people gravitate to her and she. [01:38:46] Speaker A: She. [01:38:46] Speaker C: You know, the. Literally. And I hear this. Anybody tell me, they say the men. When I move around with her, I hear this mother part. Motherbot. I die sometime, I think they say. They be saying mother Path, you see. And she. She. [01:39:05] Speaker A: She. [01:39:05] Speaker C: She's doing well. [01:39:06] Speaker B: Yes, she is. [01:39:07] Speaker C: And people like a Glenna San are doing well. [01:39:09] Speaker B: Yes. [01:39:09] Speaker C: As members of. I'm not knocking the male members of our. [01:39:12] Speaker B: No, I with you. I wish you. [01:39:14] Speaker C: You have the people like the jobette Corby. Them get the young women and the young men, the young people. The people like Ales Lews. I only could talk with them because only them are women members of parliament in Parliament now. But I don't want to make it sound like a PLB thing. [01:39:30] Speaker B: No, I got you. [01:39:32] Speaker C: The women members of Parliament are doing well. [01:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:39:36] Speaker C: You hear much complaint, but then, you know, you can have one or two complaints, but you have much complain with the women member. [01:39:41] Speaker B: By the way, I appreciate you calling me brother. Thank you so much. [01:39:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:39:45] Speaker B: The text who talked about the study is sent a study and Anku the study was gender differences in automatic in group bias. Why do women like women more than men like men? This article by Lori A. Rudman and Stephanie A. Goodwin was published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology in October of 2004. 4, volume 87, issue 4, pages 494 to 509. Women look out for women. All right, we thank you for those statistics and the study. I'm going to read it. Maybe we'll discuss it one day here on Guardian Radio today. But thank you so much for that information and I thank you all for listening. Those who call, thank Dr. Ford for joining us in the the first hour of the show. My name is Pastor Dr. Cleveland W Enos III, also known as Kahunan Kusara. I want to say continue to stay locked here on Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all day. Namaste.