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This is gaudy. And today here on a beautiful, fantastic Monday, a magnificent one if I might say so. It's sunny outside. We had some rain showers over the course of a few days and now the sun is back to smile on us to ensure that we continue to keep our beautiful skin tones and to ensure that the world can know that the sun shines best on the beautiful Bahamas. In just a few months, you know, it's going to be very cold to the north and so even though we may want to complain about the heat, your air conditioner is not working in your car and you want to, you want to simply just say my, let me suck my teeth on this one because it's really hot.
Just consider, like I said, in a few months it's going to get extremely cold and we're going to have people that will be visiting our shores from all around the world. So let us use this time wisely to prepare ourselves for the tourists that are about to come in the winter seasons ahead.
Our tour will take a slow roll as we move towards September, normally the month of September, the middle part of September.
We normally have a dwindling effect of vacationers. We have more of the settled elderly people that will come and visit our shores or those people who don't have the big money to spend.
And there may be somewhat of a dry spell until around just before Thanksgiving of this year. And then we go into our yuletide season. And so right now, if you're making some money, my word to you is to save as much of that money as you possibly could, you know, because some days are going to be challenging. Up ahead, this is Guardian Today. Yesterday, for those of you who are tuned in to Guardian radio, you listen to your lane at four and then you listen to remark at five.
I did get some people who scolded me until they heard what a wonderful job our guest host, Ms. Gabby Eneas performed yesterday. I enjoyed the program myself. As a matter of fact, I was listening to the show on my radio. And for those of you who are using the Guardian radio app or if you're streaming live on guardiantalkradio.com on your laptops or your streaming device, you would have enjoyed a refreshing female youthful voice as opposed to my elderly, decrepit old bass voice. And so I just want to say thank you to Ms. Gabby Ennis and her guest.
She promised you that she would bring you another good show because people did call and they said, you know what? It's so refreshing to hear that the hoax. I heard that comment. The hoax took the time to allow the young people to speak.
And I said, well, look at here. Well, la.
And so she made mention that she's. She's willing to do the show next week because, you know, I'll be here for a few days with you. And she also mentioned that she's going to be here today. And so as I was bringing my greetings to you today on this beautiful, magnificent Monday, guess who walked in if the, if the dress was white.
I said, well, my God, we having a. We having a wedding today.
But she come in this type of brass. I don't kind of color to call that. You know, we say brown or whatever or tan or whatever, but it has a glowing effect. I didn't know remark could do that to you. Remark just brought out this remarkable look on you. I gotta be corny this morning. Gotta warm up.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: You sure?
[00:04:38] Speaker C: How was the show, man?
[00:04:39] Speaker A: Listen, you're glowing. I'm gonna greet the people, then you're here.
[00:04:43] Speaker C: Good afternoon, Bahamas. It's so good to be here. Thanks for having me today and thank you so much again, guys for allowing me to sit in on your show yesterday. We had an awesome conversation about, you know, youth involved in issues confronting our nation.
So it just wasn't even enough. It's never enough time really. So we'll continue the dialogue next week and I'm hoping to bring another guest, hopefully from someone from the PLP side.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Oh, you had someone from another side?
[00:05:13] Speaker C: We had. We had. We had F and M Vice Chairman Denari roll yesterday. So next week we're gonna look for some another useful plp so hopefully they can bring their flavor to the conversation.
[00:05:26] Speaker A: So you want the people to really mash me up then?
[00:05:29] Speaker C: No, man, we have to have a balanced conversation when the third party people.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: Say where it is in this equation. But I ain't getting in that. I mean, the show ain't this show. This show ain't about that. We ain't going down that road by just saying when you use the word balance these days, there's some people who ain't as balanced as you and they want to Know what's going on. I only saying.
I only saying. I only saying, you know. As we picked up the Guardian today, for those of you who are just joining us for the first time, I dislike the headlines. Even though this is what the Guardian does, they can't hide from telling these stories. But it's not a beautiful story. I don't even really like talking about it over the microphone, but it's there and it's in bold print. Two killed, five injured in shooting. Now, if you recall, on my last show, I think it was on Friday, I made mention that you young men got to stop hanging out the way you do. Stop. I said it boldly. Stop liking, man.
[00:06:21] Speaker C: Remember they used to have a show, you remember that, Sawyer? Boy, those used to do something called stop liking, man.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: Yeah, something like that. But my thing is this.
How often have we seen the same story play out, you, the group of y', all hanging out, having a good time. Nothing wrong with that.
But the problem is that we are not aware as to who in this group would have brought this type of situation.
[00:06:46] Speaker C: On the weekend we started to talk.
[00:06:49] Speaker A: About it, I went on with this because this ain't my show today.
[00:06:51] Speaker C: I noticed it in the show today, but we. It's a broader. It's a broader issue.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: Two victims is on bail.
[00:06:57] Speaker C: It's a broad. But how. Look at how. Look at their ages, man.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Listen, I don't even want to talk, but at the start of my Monday, you don't understand it. I just want you to know it's there. And the people I want to talk just out of respect for the wheelchair bound team that walks. I like that story.
That's very, very positive. I talking nothing else on this front page. But if you want to pick up the Nassau Garden to see what other interesting stories are here, it's all full of great news, by the way. Great news. And the Guardian has been in business from 1844, giving you great news. And so I want you to go ahead, don't just listen to what we have to say. Go ahead and pick up your Nassau Guardian. I grew up actually with parents reading from the Bible for those who were Christians. And they also had a copy of the paper so you couldn't tell them nothing because they already read it and they saw it for themselves. And so by you reading, you become more informed and you can actually add more to a conversation. But I just want to say to everyone, once again, Happy Monday.
And I got something interesting for you today. So let me throw the numbers real quick. Gabby, I think you're gonna like this. This one. I think maybe people could actually appreciate this one, but I think they may even hate me after the show. And I have no problem being hated because I'm just gonna tell you the truth. Can I just say the truth today? I always do. But I just want to make sure that they understand that it is not my goal to be liked by these people. I don't want to be liked. What I want to do is to ensure that you are informed that. And that you know what the right thing is. And you could make whatever decision you want to make after that. So let me throw these numbers out to you quickly. 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Anywhere from the family of Island 300-5720. Or you can text 4224796 and God.
[00:08:49] Speaker C: The caller just corrected me and said it was in Sawyer Boy Collage Entertainment that had the stop alike in mind.
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Thank you so much, Dexter, for I like Sawyer Boy. I don't know too much people, so I'm glad you brought it to your because I don't really do that. Brother Kermit, I don't know if I could get that little song. Is that ready now? Or so. Okay, Kermit can work on that for me. But listen, folks, this is what I want to talk about today.
I entitled this show in my house. Can I talk about in my house?
In my house? And people have been speaking over the weekend or all of last week. I listened to you and we were speaking about the housing crisis here in the Bahamas.
[00:09:23] Speaker C: It's a soft spot.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Sore spot. But, man, you know who I am.
[00:09:27] Speaker C: This is a soft spot.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: I might be the fellow who stood at the foot of the cross.
I just got to let you know that someone getting crucified today and it might be me. It might be me. It might be me. But I'm willing to go up.
I'm ready to go to Golgotha and ready to make a statement. Can I make a statement?
[00:09:44] Speaker C: Go ahead, Doc.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: Okay. While Kermit's getting ready for that, here's what I'm saying to you people.
I'm hearing on the streets, Gabby, that the young people especially.
And then there's some other people who.
[00:09:55] Speaker C: No, I ain't not.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: Are you young? Stop. Stop teasing me. What you teasing me for? As an old man? Okay, okay, okay. But here it is. But she young.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: Anyhow.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Most people speaking today who reside either in apartments or you're living with Family.
There is an ambition that exists that you desire.
A house.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: My God.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: Is that something you desire as a young person?
[00:10:24] Speaker B: It is.
[00:10:25] Speaker C: And, and as we get deeper into this conversation, I will let you know my. My recent journey even into property ownership and the leaps and bounds and hoops alleys. And if you do not have the tenacity, the fortitude, the go forth, the all, the patient, your patience of the beginning, more patient than job to deal with this situation in the Bahamas.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: I want them to notice. And guess what? We really got a call. I ain't even jump into the program good yet. I wanted to get something good to say. Call it on the line, go ahead. Let me see what they got to say.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: Well, good afternoon to everybody and you know, thanks for taking my plug. I have a lot to say.
How will the Bahamian people afford a home?
And it's simple. You know, what's the first thing you need if you're trying to get a home besides money?
[00:11:14] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: You got to put the home somewhere on land, right?
So young people trying to buy land, it's almost out of their price point.
We got rid of the immovable Property act, remember that in the 90s. We gotta thank whoever did that. You know who it is? I won't call names.
And so it put the land out of reach. But if we got 3 million plus acres of crown land, the only person here wear a crown is the Governor General.
If it's the crowns land, but we say it's the people's land.
And we only have a couple hundred thousand people out of 3 million acres. Why wouldn't we give each Bahamian young person an acre of crown land?
[00:11:53] Speaker A: Did you, did you use the word give?
[00:11:56] Speaker B: Let me explain.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: I'm asking, did you use the word give?
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: What does give mean? I know, I want a definition of give, please.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: So my definition of give is with the stipulation that you use it to put somewhere to live, not to sell. To buy a Honda and a trip to Miami.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't like that definition. Give me a definition, generally speaking, of what it means to give.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Well, if your dad gave you a piece of property in life or t clear and free of debt, it is yours. You're a Bahamian and you were his son and he gave you that property and you built somewhere to live on it, maybe a duplex. And you lived in one and the other one you rented for some income to supplement your basic necessities. You see, the wealthy people use land to make themselves wealthier what we do is we put people on a job so that they're in survival mode, looking for rent. See the difference?
[00:12:53] Speaker A: Well, I'm gonna say this to you, and I appreciate your call, Graham, call me back later on in the show, of course, because this is exactly what I want to address today.
The whole idea of giving. What does it mean to give? Because everyone is asking for it and they're asking for it for free.
And the last time I checked, Bahamas, there ain't nothing free. I don't care who you are, it can cost you something. I asking you. Everybody crying for this freedom. Everybody's crying for this thing to be given to them. I have a problem with that. I do.
And this is why I said to you, I'm going to Golgotha today. It may be me on the cross. I may be the thief on the left, I may be the thief on the right. But I can only ask the master to save me today. Because you can't do it. That's what I say to you today. Now, I ain't scared. So let's jump into this. Gabby, here's my problem with this giving idea.
It seems to me that there are generations of people, and I use generations. I'm not just going to label the young people. There are generations of people who expect something for nothing.
They just feel that because I am. Give it to me. So let me get a little preachy on them. Gotta get a little preachy.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Go ahead, God.
[00:14:06] Speaker C: I want to hear you out fully.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: There's a story in the Holy Bible, I gotta call the name of the book, because not everybody's Christian, okay? So I want to give respect to that, but I'm going to use this particular book, okay, of a young man who went to his father and said, what?
I want you to give me all of my birthright. I want it now.
Okay?
The good father, I would say the good father looks at his son, he got two of them, and says to one son, you know what you asked for you because I love you. I want to respect you. No problem.
And gives him his portion.
This book says he went into a far land and found friends.
And when you focus on the story, good. Now, friends, I ain't trying to preach nobody today. But he found friends.
His friends knew that he had these things. His friends knew he had this money. His friends knew he rolled in software. His friends knew, boy, you dressed good. His friends knew he could have anybody for a mate that he selected. They knew this friend, this young man was well off.
The story goes to say that hard times came and he found himself with nothing. The man who had plenty now has nothing.
And he says, you know what? I was better off going back to live in my daddy house. I say, talking in my house. I ain't talking about your house. I don't. In my house, how things is run.
I rather go back there and be where I don't own nothing. I just want a job. You ever hear these people on the street talking about, I just want a job here. I just want a job so I could do better.
You went out there and did what you had to do. And now you realize, you know what? I was better off where I was. But seeing that I am not at the same title and level, let me now just humble myself. I thought, I just want to talk like this.
And I would still be better off than I was when I lost everything.
Now, you all know the story, and I had to preach no sermon, and this ain't no church.
But the father takes him back, kills the fatted calf, puts a ring on his finger, gives him a nice good robe. And who got a problem with that? The other brother? What about somebody been faithful? I mean, I did what I had to do. I was a disciplined man. I followed the rules. And you will share my things with him.
And the daddy said, well, you should be glad that your brother is home.
Now, are you smart? I love you so much. Yesterday on that show, I see you calling, come in here.
What did the daddy say? You should be glad your brother is what? Home, home.
Who owns that home?
[00:17:00] Speaker C: The father.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: The father. Now, call up, y', all, but interrupt me. Go ahead, call it. Let me say what you got to say. I ain't gonna cut you. Go ahead.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Morning. Morning. Morning.
How you doing?
[00:17:10] Speaker A: I, I, I, trying to warm up a little bit, but I, I, I good. How about you?
[00:17:14] Speaker B: Yeah. The word, the word Portugal.
Sorry, you know the meaning of that, right?
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Well, I didn't use it today because everybody don't understand it. But go ahead, be listening.
[00:17:24] Speaker B: Everybody. That means squanderers.
He squandered away.
What was that he blessed him with? And the lesson in that, too, is the father being so generous when he tell him give him what he has for him, should have said to him, he want his inheritance. Well, you know the word inheritance, man, that means after I pass away.
[00:17:47] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: I love this conversation because it's more. Because it's more than just he won being a good father, knowing that even though he love him and given what he gave him, he went out there and he gets swing from all his friends.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: Get swing.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Like you just said the other brother and the love in the heart from the father is that be happy that he is home.
Now where, where, where are we? And I'm gonna chime in on let.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Me say like this caller.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Give, give me to grant right now in this world if I grant your co host a piece of property I can't tell her what to do with that.
No, she got control of that. But if I give her some rights to property in a certain way when I ensconcer like Aaron used the word one day and I told explain that so people can understand I give you a right to what it is. Now if I give my son or my daughter the right and ownership and pass with me then nobody could come and swing him or her, right? Because let's just say we're talking about lying here. So everybody there's a law on the book called intervable shift of real property, right? And that means you can turn over rights or interest in your land or your home to your child, your spouse or your grandchildren, right? And when you give them right to it that don't mean you have to turn it over to them because when we turn around and then may get sleep sometimes you may end up and I know of certain persons that happen to you may end up in the old folks home and then the boy come and show him I'm read an invitation, right?
But next thing you know they get strength from somebody who probably from someplace else and you don't know where it is. But you have to be fair and balance and that's protection and to show okay my name on it, it's mine. I, I, I am like the prodigal son daddy. And if you want interest, let me see if you could build something with me on that property that I have in my name that I will put in your name guard and your brother resource to them may not have interest in it. And I bless you like that. Now let's see how you gonna work because what they say by the start of the bell shall eat bread and you should be right. So what you get? Father may have, mother may have God.
[00:20:44] Speaker A: Yes sir.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Well I appreciate that call when they do that.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: Yes sir.
[00:20:47] Speaker C: But guess what? This also goes into a deeper issue then, right?
So you're giving someone something who is unprepared to handle the weight of what you're giving them. Have you trained them, have you taught them, have you brought up train up a child in the way they should go so when they are old. They will not depart from it.
And now this even goes to bring it home. Now I want to bring it back from the biblical standpoint because, as you mentioned, everyone may not subscribe to that.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:21:22] Speaker C: Let's talk about the principles we're teaching our children right now, even in school.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:21:29] Speaker C: Are we equipping them with the tools that they truly need? Because we spend time on religious knowledge, Civic is still an option. Knowing your history of where you come from is still an option in school.
There's no financial literacy so that they can understand what it is simple money management skills that if I, as the parent, is giving my child $5 every day, $5 right now, I can't do nothing for nobody, for no lunch money, because the meals, that's another story. But if I'm giving you $5 every day, and for this argument's sake, we're gonna say that that is sufficient to cover your meal, your bus, because one time ago, it used to be sufficient. But the cost of living has skyrocketed so much in this country that when my niece told me the other day that they used to carry 10 plus dollars to school for lunch, I say.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: Well, there's more than that actually now. But, you know, you got this thing, gabby, you so smart. And then you send me this text for these people. Send me this. What the person said before that last caller call. Good day. The father doesn't own the property. It's a brother who said, who owns the property.
The roaming brother already got his property and wasted it. So the caller, when they called in, I think they would have corrected this particular text. Now, the prompts to the father, we don't understand that when the half came about, the half was an intention of the father to give away the whole. And because you're asking for your half prematurely, the father says, I'm not going to battle with you. I'm going to allow you to diminish me potentially for the future by 50% and lets him go and see what he's going to do to 50%. The father is still operating now on how much? 50%. The father still has a fatted calf. The father still has a goodly robe. The father still has a ring to put on the finger. The father still has servants and. And attendees. The father still has another son. The father still has resources in so much that this son that went awake understood that it's better at home with my father as one of the servants than it is when I make my own foolish decisions.
And so when you spoke just Now, Gabi, you're saying that how many of us are truly prepared for a home?
You want a land. So brother Graham called in, right? We know Graham, what you're fighting for. So let's talk a little bit, Gabi, then about this crown land.
And you all say we entitled to at least one acre of crown land. That's what they're saying to me, right in your father's house. Now let's talk about now.
Loser say here and now, but let's talk about now.
You're living at home. You ain't got no house right now. So you want this land. You say for whatever reason you want it for, whether it's a farm or you figure you're just entitled to it. So give me which is. Which is supposed to give me. That's what this, this prodigal said. This daddy, just give me mine and let me do what I got to do. I want to know, Gabby, what these people thinking, what you check. If I give you land, let's say the government gives you an acre, right now, what do you think is the next thing we got to do?
[00:24:44] Speaker C: Gabby, the thing about it is, I don't want to cast a sweeping generalization on everyone.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: We're not.
[00:24:50] Speaker C: So there are some that like the story you started off saying will sell their birthright.
It doesn't matter how much you give them. Money in the hands of a fool will never last.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: So we got some fools. Not everybody.
[00:25:04] Speaker C: We got some fools.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: Now we use the word fool. Let me tell that is white. I guarantee you that someone out there who say we call them fools. That's how the fool is work. The fool can't help but be fool, you know? But I leave that alone. See, I ain't scared of these people. These people who. Who idiotic. I scared of them. I stayed away from them. But go ahead.
[00:25:21] Speaker C: Money in the eyes of a fool is never going to last. So it doesn't matter how much you give. The Bible tell us the poor will always be amongst us. And why do you. The poor and I. And. And I start to think on that. For the. For the Christian dwellers and everything.
Why do you think that is?
[00:25:36] Speaker A: I mean, explain to me, you young.
[00:25:37] Speaker C: I old, why do you think that is? And. And I go back and if you look at. At some of our bank accounts, your bank statements, they'll tell you show me what you spend your money on and I will tell you what you love.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: If you got a bank account, if you got one.
[00:25:50] Speaker C: But even if you don't have a bank account, if we just track our spending and our expenses, that's our county in our accounting. Yeah, a lot of us. Well I won't say us, but a lot of people.
Cuz I think I can.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: You won't fit in that.
[00:26:03] Speaker C: I don't fit that.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:26:05] Speaker C: Vices.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: Uhhuh.
[00:26:08] Speaker C: Vices.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Don't be scared.
[00:26:09] Speaker C: Tell them to their demise that you have persons making an astronomical amount of money. Because the hotel industry, hotel workers particularly. I, I'd speak to that.
Tourism industry pulls in money.
There is money in the blue economy, there is money in the orange economy. There is money in this country. This country is rich. This statement is not to ignore the fact that there are people struggling. There are people struggling because when you add up the cost of living, I think we're what, number six?
[00:26:43] Speaker A: We were number four the other day. So I feel.
[00:26:45] Speaker C: But somewhere in the top 10 of most expensive countries to live in.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:26:53] Speaker C: So is it that all of our monies is going to paying bills, BPL.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: And the other rent?
[00:27:02] Speaker C: Because those are, those are complaints that we are and those are necessities. Those are basic. Maslow's hierarchy of needs talks about what the basic needs are for an individual to reach self actualization, for them to be their best self. If we want productive citizens in our society at the bottom of that pyramid, it's a psychology theory that speaks to their physiological needs.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:27:27] Speaker C: They need food, they need shelter.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:27:31] Speaker C: So they need somewhere to live. So we cannot, we cannot ignore that fact that rent is just too high.
Rent payments right now is the costs of a mortgage and in some instances even more.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: I don't want to define what do I mean. Let me take this call a real quick go ahead caller.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Yes, good day.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: Good day my friend. I didn't want to keep you holding too long.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: Yeah, you know my view on the prodigal son is that it's really about principle of the grace of the father, you know, not, not the so called foolishness of the son, you see. But, but, but, but, but watch this now when it comes to crown land, right?
What the problem is that you have Crown grants to select group of people. I mean our marshes groups, you understand. We have a citizenship of the Bahamas of probably about 200,000.
Could be maybe 100,000 if you count the behemoth who's been here for 14 generations.
You understand?
You know, it's only about maybe about 100,000.
[00:28:35] Speaker C: Could you.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: He's all been organic behemoths. That's what he's trying to hint to us.
[00:28:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm Talking about the Bahamians who, with the real state, who, you know, who come here as immigrants, who came here against their own free will. The colored ones, the black ones, or even the white ones who've been here for, like I say, 14 generations.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: The Greeks. Okay, go ahead.
[00:28:54] Speaker B: Right, and then, and then we, let's look at like land, right, and its distribution.
So what would you say about the Palestinian people? Would you say they going to lose their land? So, you know, so, so you're saying they, something's wrong with them, is their fault that they lose in the land or is it the fault or because of the oppressor?
You know, there are people that lose land because people steal from them, not because they are foolish people.
You know what I'm saying? Because they are not, they're not physically or militarily able. They don't have arms to protect themselves or a system to protect themselves in the land.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: You know, I'm not, I'm not fighting those people who have land, you know, assaulted or, you know.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: Right.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: I'm not.
What I'm speaking about is the, the whole idea of entitlement of land. Because with entitlement comes responsibility. It's the point of trying to drive home at this particular time.
It's generally heard on the streets. I'm not saying everybody desires land. I happen to have more than one piece of land. I mean, there are people in this country who has multiple plots of land or multiple homes. That's the way it is. But the person who doesn't have it, there's nothing wrong with the aspiration of desiring land or desiring a house. But I am not convinced that everyone who's making this cry understands fully what this entails. That's where I'm at right now. Because you want it now, you want your half now, but you don't even know how to manage your half is the point of it trying to drive home here. So I think your points are very valid.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: Watch this. My father was, was on a million dollars in that. My father was a millionaire in the ghetto.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:30:39] Speaker B: Right. But I had neighbors who didn't have the same, wasn't in the same situation as I.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: Good.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: You know, so those people that they need crime grants, bro, they need this land.
Whether they scorn, whether they don't hold on to it. It's, it's, you know what I'm saying?
[00:30:55] Speaker A: Okay, let me ask a question online. Let me ask you a question.
[00:30:58] Speaker B: Like I say, 14 generation women.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: Let me ask a question.
Are you familiar with the term Jones Sure. Oh, you know, but Jones are you old enough to know. But Jones are.
Okay, let me ask you another. No, you sound like a brilliant person. So I'm not even. I'm not trying to battle with you here. I'm trying to define some things here.
What happens normally to a normal human being when you get into a tight squeeze?
[00:31:23] Speaker B: You do what it do. Do you do your best to survive.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: You do your best to survive. Sometimes require sacrifice. Gabby. How you get so smart?
[00:31:32] Speaker B: Yeah, okay.
[00:31:33] Speaker A: So. So. So hold on. I got this plot of land. Because I can tell you a story in a minute. I got this plot of land that they gave me. This, this one acre land. And the value of that one acre land is $80,000.
I looking for money right now. I need money.
And this land just sitting there.
[00:31:51] Speaker C: Depending on how tight this land sitting there.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: And guess who won't buy it.
The people from all the way across the world, they want that land. You know they got the money in the briefcase. You know they got this money in the briefcase. You know, the man from the south of here then been hiding his money on the rock. You know he got that money too.
And you know people from all over the world, they want piece of this rock. And you in a tough situation and you got this. You ain't got no Honda, you ain't got no, no, no, no. No other house. You ain't got no other land. You ain't got no job, but you need this little bit of corn, but you got this land.
Who's supposed to stop them from selling this land? Let me hear this.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: In other words, if they sell this land at whatever value, they sell this land, right, It'd be their fault. But no, no, no, because they didn't make the wrong decision about buy this.
That, that has nothing to do with you. You.
[00:32:49] Speaker A: You already complaining to me that we got an invasion on our hands. You learn about to tell me we about to be overtaken. You then tell me every. Hold on, hold on. Every 10ft from east. I can call the name of the streets for you. East Street, Blue Hill Road, Market Street, Down Bernard Road, down our cowpoint Road. Down. Down to Michael Road. These people coming and buying up everything.
I saw the man myself. I can get a location. I ain't telling a lie. On the corner of Faith Avenue, Michael Road. I was there. The man said, the man come to him with a brief face full of money, say, sir, I want this house. I hear the man say, when you look at that briefcase. So what the heck you all think this is? So, so, so, so, so, so. No, I know it sounded extreme, right, But. But I think what Gabby is saying is that we got to put some check marks in place before you start talking about giving everybody something. Yeah, go ahead.
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Well, and good that you educate them on how to. What you call it.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: When. When are we gonna educate them?
[00:33:51] Speaker C: It starts in the school.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: It starts students.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: Right, but when we gonna start?
[00:33:55] Speaker B: Yeah, but so, but yeah, you do that. But don't say you don't give them the land.
I'm talking about them 14 generation. The image, bro, not the third. I talk about 14 who now claim as immigrants. Now who claim is immigrants before independence, you understand me? Once they come as immigrants.
[00:34:14] Speaker A: So, so. So you got 14 generations here and you tell me they ain't got no line yet.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: Only been here for even me myself.
[00:34:20] Speaker C: A lot of them had land and sold it. Because when you titles and you do title searches and you see the families and the names of the persons that own these lands in abundance, it's just, it comes from. And I don't want to call any names on air, obviously, but it comes from a certain groupon of people who understood the value of land. They understood the power that it was. So they approached persons. They didn't steal these land from these people. They approached them and they said, listen, I'm going to give you $5000. Because back then, $5000 was a lot. Yes, I'm gonna give you $5000 for this piece of property.
How did you think a lot of the properties out West Ridge and all of these various places out west now, persons were sitting on it, sitting on the land. And somebody who realized the value of that land said, listen to me, we got. These Negroes ain't got no sense. We could give them some money now so they could feel fat. And they wasn't feeling. Thinking about their children and their grandchildren and their great grandchildren. They was thinking about what that money could do for them. Now they were thinking about the cash for gold that they could have buy all the slave band, all the jewelry up to their neck. That's what they were.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: Caller, go ahead, you got 30 seconds. Go ahead, call her.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: Go ahead, answer this question.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: Go ahead, call her.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Do you guys believe in reparation or land distribution or land redistribution? Not distribution, but redistribution.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: I have a level of understanding for that. I do.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: I'm not understanding.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:35:55] Speaker B: I told you what I. Reparation.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to me. For a lazy man, reparation is a death sentence.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: No, but I'm not asking you that.
[00:36:04] Speaker A: You ain't got to ask me that. I got the mic and I telling you. You try to ask me to believe in something to the detriment of many, and I'm not going to say yes. I asking you.
You can't give a lazy man a bone.
We are not prepared for the reparations.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: So how do. How do we. How do we have a democratic decision on this?
[00:36:21] Speaker A: Well, let's find it from the other callers.
[00:36:23] Speaker C: From the other callers on the line.
[00:36:24] Speaker A: Let me find another caller, but thanks for calling again, my brother. Next caller, please.
[00:36:28] Speaker B: Hey. Hey. I had to call you.
[00:36:30] Speaker A: Of course you had to, Graham. I had to make sure you called back.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: But I don't want to argue.
Yeah. Education, you said education. You're correct.
[00:36:38] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:36:39] Speaker B: If you had land or. My dad gave me an acre of land. Right.
Could often sell it to whoever. Just reach and go buy me a nice Honda or BMW, whatever. Right.
[00:36:48] Speaker C: A depreciating asset, by the way.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: Yeah, we know that. Money in school. Let's teach. Brilliant. What? You said, let's teach money in school. You haven't taught your people about money or power, what to do with land.
[00:37:00] Speaker C: Because then we'll understand the budget. Gram. We understand exactly what's in the budget. We'll understand that the money still in. In the bank for certain things. We would understand these things. So when you come and say, whereas this is that and that is that, and can you use all illegal jargon, if we start to teach our people this, they will understand and cut through the foolery that is being told to us.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: Okay. Go ahead, Graham.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: I only get 45.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: Yeah, go ahead, Graham.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Go ahead, Graham.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: Go ahead, Graham. Go ahead.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: Bottom line is right. I didn't say just give it willy nilly.
[00:37:31] Speaker A: Right.
[00:37:31] Speaker B: It takes. It takes me with you or any single bohemian.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: Not even a half hour.
[00:37:37] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: Before I give you this land to explain.
I just spoke to the producer. He's a young person. Watch this.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: Let us make friends.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: If I gave either of you right now an acre of land in Blair Estates. Right.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: I'll take it.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: Of course you would, because a bank would tell you, sir, would you like to build a big, lovely home? And you'd say, I want a triplex.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: I could do it.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: You'd live in one and the other two would be 100 a night on Airbnb, 200 a day, and in one week you'd make one.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: Hold on.
[00:38:04] Speaker C: But in Blair Estates, you have to talk about it.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Go ahead, Graham. Go Ahead, Graham.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: I get 40 seconds.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: Go ahead, Graham.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Let me build a case.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: Go ahead, Graham.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: When I give you the land, as I may do to my heirs and successors, I would teach them short order, real quick that you put something on these heads, but it's an appreciating asset.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: On Airbnb of 200 a night, that's US$1,400 a week. Do you see what an acre of land would have done to both of you if I gave it to you?
[00:38:30] Speaker A: Who's going to teach that?
[00:38:32] Speaker B: My God, it didn't even take me 30 seconds. And I just taught you.
[00:38:38] Speaker A: I could understand what you're saying. I asked and you can teach them.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: You listen. Whoever is giving the acre of crown land, that ministry will say, please come for a half hour course before I give you the land. But my wife sitting with me said, you cannot discriminate. Where the lady sitting with you will get the acre and trained. I train you, but you seem like you can't get it as good as her, so you don't get your acre.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: Have you. Have you ever. Remember you asked a question, have you ever been an educator or teacher?
[00:39:07] Speaker B: Yes, I. I teach people all the time.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: No, no, I'm talking about as a profession.
[00:39:11] Speaker B: No, I don't have a degree.
[00:39:13] Speaker A: Oh, no. Okay, I want you to go and ask the Ministry of Education to allow you to sit in the classroom for one week. I want to see you last. Because you talk about educating people. I'm not, I'm not diminishing anybody here, but I'm saying this to you. I have been a teacher.
Okay? I've been a teacher. I've been in a classroom where no teacher lasted for one week.
[00:39:33] Speaker B: Right.
[00:39:33] Speaker A: I was the fifth teacher by the end of September.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Well, let me give it to you. This just random individual, your producer, look at him right now. I explained to him what you could do with snake her.
He could nod his head and wink. But let me tell you, there's nobody in my country that is not intelligent enough to understand what to do with land. You have two choices. You can burn it or you can use it to give you income for life. Generational wealth. So you will pass it on to your kids. But I'll leave you with this. 200,000 adult bohemians and 3 million acres of land. Leave plenty land for future generations. But we don't want to empower our people. Want to keep them with 265 minimum wage. My God, you shouldn't even be talking about that. My people, you want to keep them in Survival mode and not owning anything. And I agree. If that's how you want. Talking about the people that set the policies.
[00:40:24] Speaker C: Thanks so much for your call.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: Thanks, Graham. Next caller, please, quickly.
[00:40:27] Speaker B: Hey, good afternoon and good. Good day. Good day.
[00:40:29] Speaker A: Hey, man.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I really feel that, you know, the Bayman people really been, you know, dumbed down in a way, you know, because I mean, good show. I'm listening to the show. Really good show. But what I'm getting from you guys, right, is I know while you. I know you really don't mean that all people have that negative point of view. That's correct of life and correct.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: That's correct.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: Right. I know that. Right.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: But I just need you all to see if you all could calm that down to the point that. Because at the end of the day. Right. It come in. Cause that.
That the majority of us out here are people would don't have the capability of understanding anything, especially if it ain't coming from. Somebody would read looked at a F and that is no longer a reality.
Beaming people that they can understand and interpret and desert things what is occurring in this country. Right? So while you can help some people and there are fools, right. In every instance of our life, you have people dumb who fall under the category of a fool. Right. So at the end of the day, the beheming people, we don't need nobody to be talking down to us. Like all. All of us have that type of mindset of not being interested in achieving what our parents or our grandparents didn't achieve. If the land quite. If the land wasn't an issue in this country, why did we have a government came and repealed a law would make it so easy else to access the land except the regular behemoth.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: I appreciate your call and I want to address that. And that's. We're not here to beat Dharma, but I'm simply here.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: No, no, I beat dumb.
[00:42:12] Speaker A: I know I'm about to show. Show you what I'm meaning in a short order, but I have to respect the callers. And that's why I. I really do appreciate your call. You're making a lot of sense, but we got to take it a step higher. We're in a housing crisis. The word is crisis. So we need to understand why we are in a crisis. It ain't got nothing to do with the land. It has nothing to do with a house. But this is what we're going to talk about today. Thanks for your call. Next caller, please call. Go ahead. You're the last caller before the News caller, go ahead.
Is the caller there?
Hello?
Okay, good, Gabby. And I'm gonna let you close off as we go into news. But Gabby, here's our issue.
No one wants to prevent you from being a landowner or a homeowner. I don't think anybody deliberately wants to do that.
But I have this notion, and I see this daily, that the undertakings of land ownership and house a discipline it does, it takes a discipline, a discipline that has evaded many and I can tell it evasion. I'll tell you how I know this.
We're going to go back after the news to the rental market, where it is now and why the rental market continues to increase and why land ownership continues to decrease amongst Bahamian people. But I got to give this beautiful lady some respect today. Gabby, you know, I know your husband is listening, so, you know, I, I want him to hear your voice one more time because we'll go ahead keep on the day after me.
[00:43:53] Speaker C: You know, I want to address something Nicola said, though we are not casting that expression dispersion on everyone. That's the first thing I said to Goth. We're not going to create a sweeping generalization and say that this is for all behemoth. All behemoths don't understand. All behemoths are this. All behemoth are that. But I'm saying that there is something that we lacked. I will tell you, for me as a young bohemian going through school for 12 years, regular school, another six years in college, there is a lack of financial education and financial literacy. Just going through the process, still in the process recently of closing on a piece of land. I still waiting on the title search to come back now for months.
There is so much. So even for those of us that are smart enough and educated enough to understand the processes, there are still things that frustrate the process, clog up the process, clog up the search system for us to be successful in owning land in this country.
Then another point is if you happen to even inherit a building, we can go around here because a lot of these houses that we see dilapidate dilapidated are inherited by persons who cannot afford to upkeep them and maintain them.
[00:45:08] Speaker A: We want to get into all of that today.
[00:45:10] Speaker C: So behind after the news, we're probably going to finish this conversation and talk about that. How you have persons.
[00:45:18] Speaker B: We.
[00:45:18] Speaker C: When you get that mortgage, when you get that home, what goes into making sure that this home, some people ain't dang, even you don't need somebody to come and cut your grass My granddaddy used to take the lawnmower, put the, put the gas in that and he push and he weed whack and he cut down. He he grass himself.
But we have houses where persons own the house and they ain't even coming outside to make sure that the yard is clean and well kept and maintained.
But we won't blame someone else for that, too. And I think that's all of that is the conversation that we're talking about today. Where do we put the onus on ourselves? For those of us that are the homeowners, how are we maintaining and keeping that when we own them? For those of us that are in apartments, the landlords are also saying you're breaking down their place. So every, every, every year they got to go up on the rent because they're coming there with the churn, the trailer and they walls, you know what time it is packing up everything.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: We we got it. We got to finish this after the news, folks. So we're going straight into the news and want you to call us on back after the news and we're going to continue this hot conversation in my house, in my.
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[00:49:47] Speaker B: Just letting it all hang out.
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[00:50:38] Speaker B: Hey, good afternoon. Good afternoon.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: Good afternoon.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if y' all answered the question.
Like I said. What you saying? Something about considering what is a reasonable price for rental. Like say for instance, you get a one bedroom fridge and stove, air condition cleaning, fan and electricity.
What do you consider a reasonable price?
[00:51:03] Speaker A: Well, I can address that later on in the show, but that's a very good question.
Yeah, I want to address that. I want to address that. Okay, I appreciate you, man. I'll address it in the show. Next caller, go ahead, please.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: Yes, how you doing? Just let me. How you doing? God. And your guest? I don't get your guest name.
[00:51:19] Speaker C: Yappy.
[00:51:21] Speaker A: Well, we know who you are.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: I'm really joining your show. But I was able to catch. When you talk about land now, I think it's important for us to have this conversation. Conversation, consent of land, especially in light of those individuals who claim that you will be able to simply. That land is the single impetus to building wealth.
Land is a small, but a small process of it. The concept of simply owning land.
Bring that to fruition if you want to.
You can just look at individuals who have said they have had hundreds, if not thousands of acres, as well as individuals who had 1, 2 acres, quarter acres, 8 of an acre, whatever, all around New Providence because it requires capital also.
But capital has a dependency on ideas as a multiplier. And that requires some financial competence.
[00:52:25] Speaker C: You did say you just was just catching the show, but that's what we were talking about earlier. Putting land in the hands of persons, or even money in the hands of persons who do not have financial power in the fourth way to understand processes, understand what they have and how to leverage what they have to gain wealth.
[00:52:48] Speaker B: I like that idea. Right. Because you know, what happens is that it's the easiest way for me to get a few thousand acres.
If they were to give everybody in the Bahamas an acre of land, I easily would just try to capture probably 20, 10, 20% of that. Because the easiest thing for me to do. First of all, can I just put in perspective what land value is in the Bahamas today? You're talking about crown land.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: I got my formulas lit up, so give it to me.
Go ahead. I'm giving you a minute.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: If I need to, I'll give you a minute.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:53:16] Speaker B: It takes a bit simple because see, we're talking about.
You talk about and the person talks about educating on New Providence. This is not someone. I'm not someone who talks about something that somebody told me that I think I believe. You know, I heard.
I talk on what I know land and New Providence on Average is about $100,000.
[00:53:39] Speaker A: That's correct.
[00:53:39] Speaker B: Grand Bahama on developed land is about 20 to 50,000.
[00:53:42] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:53:43] Speaker B: The family islands for accessible land is between 10 and 25,000.
[00:53:47] Speaker A: You're correct.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: Remote islands, undeveloped keys is between 2 and 10,000. And this is per acre.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: Understand this from average, but then it begins as you begin to move when you incorporate crown land value across the entire Bahamas. On average, a crown land value is between 500 to $2,500 at its max.
So you're talking about, like Mr. Graham Weatherford said, we're going to go build a bed and breakfast and all these things. I would say, Mr. Graham Rutherford, if you know how to put together a business plan for a person to build a bed and breakfast with only say 5,000 value of land, you should do it now because that means that you must have a blueprint or something to execute that to convince a bank or lending institution.
[00:54:39] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: What has to be done now you could buy, see I could make $50,000 a year on a hundred thousand dollar land. Right now on New Providence, I talk about the acre. I'm just talking about $100,000 piece of land, an eighth of an acre, a quarter acre. There is nothing that should stop you.
You have a multiple of income that you can go to a bank with and you can show hey, here's the $52,000 a year I will make.
[00:55:08] Speaker A: Just like I think, I think you're correct. Let me take another call. I see Alan, but I really appreciate the information. I know we could talk with us all day, but brilliant.
[00:55:15] Speaker B: Another time. But let me say, yeah, you can call back but I'm thinking I may not call back today. But this, I'm saying to you what happens, right, we have transition into a conceptual economy, a knowledge based economy.
And our great friend to the north, Mr. Donald Trump is changing financing, financial services and banking like the world have never seen before.
But what it does though, it does open up the opportunities for us because and you said, one of you said something about a housing crisis. We do not have a housing crisis.
The correct word is we have a housing affordability crisis. And so when you combine those two things to understand the difference between a housing crisis and housing affordability, for me to go build multitudes of housing for you if you can't afford to live.
[00:56:04] Speaker A: In this, I like it and I want to expound on that a little bit more. So see. Allen, thank you so much for your call. Next call up quickly please.
Next caller, please. Caller, go ahead.
[00:56:15] Speaker B: How you doing man?
[00:56:15] Speaker A: Hey, you're doing good. Trying to get through all these calls. Go ahead.
[00:56:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I think the lady see it, the nail on the head is sometimes we are put in positions where as I travel a lot of family islands, people got land, you know, they can give their children and just sitting there, generational properties, just sitting there, just sitting there. Because you don't have to.
There's the process and it's the financing, it's surveying is all these stuff that goes in lawyers, this is the thing, right?
I, I got some beautiful land and, and I could, you know, get it now you got to get an environmental assessment.
[00:56:58] Speaker C: Now we getting somewhere.
[00:56:59] Speaker B: Right. So. So, you know, sometimes, you know, when we talk about these things, it's, it's all about.
And one thing about behemoth people, once we get frustrated.
[00:57:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:11] Speaker B: It's the discipline to stick with the process.
[00:57:14] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:57:15] Speaker B: And. And one more thing.
[00:57:17] Speaker A: I, I like your call. I really like your call.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: I have, I have an acre property that I purchased in 19 and 19.
[00:57:25] Speaker A: You want to give that to me? You want to give that to me?
[00:57:28] Speaker B: And that was $45,000 in the Carla area.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: Jesus.
[00:57:32] Speaker C: I get a piece now, Right?
[00:57:34] Speaker B: And so what I'm saying to you is. Right.
And that's what a few of us who had this particular.
We buy these properties.
[00:57:41] Speaker A: 180.
[00:57:42] Speaker B: Right. And we sit. We sit on them for years.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: Yes, Bill.
[00:57:48] Speaker B: On them. Build 5,000 square feet homes. 2800 square feet homes. And don't think long term.
Don't think long term. Because as a community. And what is missing from this farmers as a community housing shortages is sometimes bohemians building outside of their range.
When you can build five bedrooms homes that I live in a 1200 square foot home and that's too much space for me.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: How many square feet?
[00:58:18] Speaker B: Twelve hundred.
[00:58:22] Speaker A: You're trying to make me look, you're trying to make me feel bad.
[00:58:24] Speaker C: I know, but that I can't believe.
[00:58:25] Speaker B: No, I'm serious.
[00:58:26] Speaker A: Let me tell you why.
[00:58:27] Speaker B: Let me tell you why.
[00:58:28] Speaker A: Go quickly because I got another call in the line. Go ahead.
[00:58:30] Speaker B: I know I just ended with this. I have a. I have a daughter who went off to college and I realized I only spent the entire time in our bedroom and kitchen.
[00:58:39] Speaker A: That is true. And I can talk a little bit that too, today. All right. I try to get it. He's saying. I appreciate your call, man.
Next caller, go ahead, please.
[00:58:47] Speaker B: Hey, guys, good afternoon.
[00:58:49] Speaker A: My friend Jeff. What's happening here?
[00:58:51] Speaker B: Coast. Let me just say one quick thing right here. Ownership.
Unless we get rid of real property tax in this country, owns their home.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: Okay, very solid point. Go ahead.
[00:59:04] Speaker B: That's all I have to say.
[00:59:05] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:59:08] Speaker B: What?
[00:59:08] Speaker C: The callers just said go. You can drop the gun.
[00:59:10] Speaker B: What?
[00:59:11] Speaker C: The college just said real property tax. And that ties into why the landlords now also have to increase the price of rentals. Because this is an investment for them. The government isn't giving them a break on the taxes. You need to pay this real property tax on this land. Once your home is valued at over a specific amount. What's the amount? 250, 300,000. 250 or 300,000. Somewhere around there. It's 250. I think they went up to 300.
[00:59:39] Speaker A: They may help, but I know because.
[00:59:41] Speaker C: It costs you now to construct.
Costs what? 350 around anywhere from 315 to 358.
[00:59:48] Speaker A: About 324 block.
[00:59:50] Speaker C: Yeah. A1 concrete block.
[00:59:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:52] Speaker C: To build an out. So to construct an average three bedroom home now can run you anywhere if inclusive of the land to 300 over $300,000.
[01:00:03] Speaker A: Okay, so let me break it down, let me break it down to. And let me just get these texts of the way really quickly and then we break. Let's break it down. Okay.
Because I know you all text us have been waiting for quite some time.
Why is my phone acting the fool? Let's go. I just tuned in. I considered a similar proposal, although I am totally against a particular party.
A contract to assure that the property may not be sold and building has to be completed starting in five years time. So if they're going to give you the property, you have those stipulations put in place that, you know what if you don't build on this in five years time.
[01:00:38] Speaker C: Okay, on it in five years time.
[01:00:40] Speaker A: We're going to get to that.
[01:00:41] Speaker C: The only thing we could do is make the banks rich because you're going.
[01:00:44] Speaker A: To go to them just like trying to get to. Let me get you these texts. Good afternoon, Garth and guest and Bahamas. Simply just one quick lesson from that story. The real prodigal son stayed at home. Okay, well that's. That's your view? That's the way you want to preach that story?
I'm not going to fight. You see, I don't come here to fight about Bible and what we know. I just brought you a story, Garth. I don't think the issue for most of us is getting something for free. But land and home ownership shouldn't be so far out of reach. Sir, these prices are insane. Okay. I mean these are actually great texts. Gabby. I think these people have some merit to conversation. I like it.
And you were just saying, Gabby, in terms of home attainment and land attainment.
[01:01:30] Speaker C: God. I want to read one more text before you go in. It says if you have a home that's worth in excess of $350,000, why should you not pay taxes like everywhere else in the world? Only bohemians have an issue with this.
[01:01:46] Speaker A: Okay, I like the tax. Okay, so here, let me get back to the whole idea of in my house.
Everybody wants a house.
We have been created. I still got to go back now to bring everybody Back center. Now, with a house, the conch has a shell. The snail has a shell. The tortoise has a shell. Animals know where to go to find a home. There's no animal in the world that doesn't know how to find a home. A house. This is what creatures do.
Unfortunately, the house that we were given is our very own flesh and blood. Follow me, Gabby house, which consists of eyes and ears and nose and mouth and tongue and teeth and chest and waist and everything else. God built you like the Bahamian woman, a brick house. Come on, let me talk about my brick house.
You remember the dimensions of the brick house? 36, 24. 36. What a winning hat. God created you just like that. Now watch this.
How much does it cost you to maintain your hair?
How much does it cost you when your eyes begin to dim? How much does it cost you when you got to get your teeth cleaned or your teeth fixed? How much is it going to cost you to put on your little eyelashes? How much is it going to cost you to wear those Jordans with these fellows that want to wear. How much is it going to cost you to dress yourself up and keep yourself healthy because you can't eat from fried food every day and expect to have a good house?
Because then you got to go see someone called a doctor and that doctor didn't give you no good news. But the first bad news is going to tell you you got a bill at the front desk.
And if you got to get medication, that's another bill that's your own. That's. That's you living in your grammy house and your mommy house. That's the first bill you can get. I just letting you know that your own house that you build with gonna cost you. And many of you don't even want to maintain that.
Let me get to that voice now. You say I want my own house. I want my own land. The government.
I asked the question who is the government? Because last time I checked, use the government.
So what government you want give you this house? We have people in place to ensure that whatever transaction takes place that our nation is protected without hurting or affecting the person that next to you. That's why the government is really there. So you want this acre of land. So let's say I give you an acre land right now I can't give it to you in Nassau because Nassau already full of right. So let's go to make one of. And I don't want your company. Don't, don't go down to my hometown or Betsy Bell.
But let's say you get this land on a family island.
[01:04:28] Speaker C: Let's start there.
[01:04:29] Speaker A: We always pick it on Andrews. Mama, leave my address alone.
[01:04:34] Speaker C: Big, It's a big idea.
[01:04:36] Speaker A: I want to take some of your exhuma. I want you all on the McKinsey line.
[01:04:39] Speaker C: They can't get it together neither. That's another thing.
[01:04:41] Speaker A: Okay, so let's. Let's get this land. What's the first thing when you get this land? What you got to do? I think one of the callers mentioned it. You got to go find a surveyor.
That ain't free.
[01:04:51] Speaker C: You need a lawyer.
[01:04:52] Speaker A: If I give you this crown land right now, do you have the money for the surveyor?
[01:05:00] Speaker C: That property has to be properly marked, labeled out.
[01:05:03] Speaker A: Not only that, you got to keep the surveyor happy voice.
I just letting you know that ain't coming cheap. I don't care how much they charge you at first, that incoming cheap. After you do the surveyor, then you tell me what you got to do.
[01:05:16] Speaker C: After you get your surveillance, you still need legal representation. And all of this, you got to pay lawyer. You can't go nowhere.
[01:05:22] Speaker A: So you got to pay a lawyer.
[01:05:24] Speaker C: Before you even get to the surveyor. You need to start with obtaining legal representation.
[01:05:28] Speaker A: You call us. I want this y'. All. So I better take you all because I want to try do something today, but y' all ain't gonna let me. Go ahead, call her.
[01:05:34] Speaker B: Hey, what's happening?
[01:05:35] Speaker A: Hey, doing well, man. You know I let you hang long. That's why I gotta stop. Go ahead.
[01:05:38] Speaker B: Yeah, appreciate that, man. You know, I. I think one of the. One of the things but people need to understand with land and money, getting it is not hard.
Keeping it is hard.
[01:05:50] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[01:05:51] Speaker B: Anyone can make money.
[01:05:52] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[01:05:52] Speaker B: Trillions of dollars of flow. My New Year's need to put position yourself to get it.
[01:05:56] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[01:05:57] Speaker B: Same thing with land you could buy. You could go to the bank with a thousand dollars with a down payment and you could get your line and meet your monthly payment anywhere in the Bahamas. You could just meet your monthly payments. But again, you got monthly payments to pay.
[01:06:11] Speaker A: I like it.
[01:06:13] Speaker B: And grandma, we got service charge to pay.
[01:06:15] Speaker A: Okay?
[01:06:15] Speaker B: We don't have stump talk, but we got service charge.
[01:06:17] Speaker A: Okay?
[01:06:18] Speaker B: You don't pay a service charge after a couple of years.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: Thank you.
[01:06:20] Speaker B: Sorry. Come up for your land.
[01:06:21] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[01:06:22] Speaker B: Same thing within the family, Alex. You don't pay a stamp tax. People come in for their land.
[01:06:26] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[01:06:27] Speaker B: Let's take for instance, just simple as health insurance. How many people.
How many people right now, if something would happen to the house, cannot cash it on their insurance because either the host is under insured, the house is undervalued, or some particular reason is as simple as an insurance.
[01:06:44] Speaker A: That's it.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: It's not. The hardest thing is not getting it. The hardest thing is keeping it. And I want payments to understand.
You are not entitled to no one acre of land or you are not entitled to $100,000. Go there and wait for your thing. Stop waiting. Stop waiting for people to give you this acre, land or this hundred thousand dollars. Go wait for your things.
[01:07:05] Speaker A: That's a profound caller. Next call on the line. Go ahead.
[01:07:08] Speaker B: Good day, Mr. Roseborough.
[01:07:10] Speaker A: Hey, man, I like how you call my name. At least you don't call me nothing else.
[01:07:14] Speaker B: And do you guess? Yes, I concur with that last caller.
The problem we have as behemoth is we have too many expensive bad habits, okay?
Every day we want to buy bears. Every day, you know, we want everything we want by woman. You won't buy everything.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: Yeah, but you can't sell them.
[01:07:39] Speaker B: What?
[01:07:39] Speaker C: Sell them.
[01:07:40] Speaker B: Four. You can't buy a woman three, four times.
[01:07:43] Speaker C: That's an expense that ain't gonna never go away.
[01:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's an expense that. That's the mortgage within itself. These guys buying woman three times a day, a week. Three times a week. That's a mortgage right there. You understand?
[01:07:56] Speaker A: Let's say the story of the prodigal son.
[01:07:58] Speaker B: Save that money and go buy a home, man. You know, all these expensive bad habits we have and everything. If we cut back on these bad habits of smoking, I mean, these. Some of these guys wake up with a joint in their hand. You understand? This is expense. If they save some of this money, what they have all these bad habits with, they could pay for a mortgage. They could pay for their own home and stop depending on the government and relying for the government to build house for you or buy house for you and everything. Come on, man, get rid of those bad habits and fix your life, man. It's just simple. As simple as that. All right.
[01:08:31] Speaker A: I appreciate the call, my brother. Very good call. Listen, I am so happy when you call in to the show because you save me a whole lot of rocks getting thrown at me when I come at the station. And they're all talking some truth. You're all talking the truth. You know what I'm now realizing as I'm sitting here that the majority of people who talk about this dream of owning land and houses because they don't have one. For those who have one, two, three, four or multiple houses, we kind of understand what it means to own land and own houses. It's nothing short of difficult. It's extremely difficult. It's a very heavy responsibility.
But caller, go ahead. I can let y' all talk. Go ahead, call her. Because me and Gabriel see. Gotta do this again later. Go ahead, call her caller, Go ahead.
Did I lose him? Okay, good.
Let me, let me put it to you all this way.
Oh, that's my boy singing. Yeah, I thought I was me singing just now.
That ain't me.
[01:09:33] Speaker C: Go to a break.
[01:09:33] Speaker A: But that ain't me.
[01:09:34] Speaker C: That ain't you. We gotta go to a break and we gotta call on tonight.
[01:09:37] Speaker A: No, but they got to wait on Luda.
Play that little song. Turn that up, man. We can be back after this break, but please play a little bit of ludo for me. Let me cool down.
[01:09:57] Speaker B: A chair is not us.
[01:10:03] Speaker A: And a house is not a home.
When there's no one there.
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[01:13:04] Speaker A: I see.
[01:13:08] Speaker B: Just what you mean to.
[01:13:11] Speaker A: Me Here in my heart I believe.
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[01:13:41] Speaker A: And we're back. We're back. We're back. This is Garden Radio, 96.9 FM right here in Nassau, Bahamas. You're tuned in, tuned in to this hot show called Guardian today.
And you know, we. We love you all. We love our friends, our colleagues, our associates, and you know, I. I just jamming a little bit of love today because there's no malice here. There's no hatred here.
And we gotta. We gotta learn how to work together. Even in this conversation, there's a divide that now exists even as we speak about this, between the homeowners.
Those who come, I guarantee you, you got two dividing lines. The homeowner, the one who don't own, and the government.
But let's take the call. Yeah, let's take the call. I know you got one friend calling. Call it. Go ahead. Let me see who that is.
Oh, that's my cousin.
You trying to surprise me with my cousin? I don't. I know that voice anywhere.
My good cousin from Andros, my masterpoint breezy Hill people. Go ahead, baby girl.
You could take the whole show from here.
[01:14:46] Speaker C: No, I don't want to take the whole show.
[01:14:48] Speaker A: Go ahead, Jesse.
[01:14:49] Speaker C: Piggyback off of what the caller said before, like, kind of toned in late.
[01:14:53] Speaker B: When he was talking about take a thousand dollars to.
[01:14:55] Speaker C: Where are you taking a thousand dollars to.
[01:14:57] Speaker B: To own any kind of property because you have to come up with 10% of whatever it is for a down payment. Then you have to pay the lawyer.
[01:15:04] Speaker C: Whose fees are usually in the thousands of dollars.
[01:15:07] Speaker B: If you don't have thousands of dollars, and I talking about a good nest.
[01:15:12] Speaker C: Egg, you ain't getting nothing.
[01:15:14] Speaker B: And that's over here.
[01:15:15] Speaker C: They make home ownership here.
[01:15:17] Speaker B: Like, I don't even know how to put it, the common person. It's very hard for you to own anything over here in terms of land affordability, homes, anything like that. It's very expensive.
[01:15:30] Speaker C: So I don't know where. If he can Maybe call back and let us know where you take $1,000.
[01:15:35] Speaker B: Or what kind of what program this.
[01:15:37] Speaker C: Is for $1,000 to own any kind of home.
[01:15:41] Speaker A: Hey, thank you so much. Now listen here before I get to the next. Before I get to the next caller, that's my beautiful cousin. I want a broke man talking to my beautiful cousin. She need that money because she need no two bedroom house. When you say 1200 square feet is too much. My cousin need but one five or six thousand square foot house because she's a queen. You know, queen is living osmos. I can live in a castle. So that's my beautiful cousin. Thank you so much for calling in, cuz. Next caller, please.
Calling you on the line.
[01:16:07] Speaker B: Hey, Good afternoon.
[01:16:09] Speaker A: Hey, Dr. Tones, what's happening right here, man.
[01:16:12] Speaker B: Good afternoon.
[01:16:13] Speaker A: How are you feeling? How you feel?
[01:16:14] Speaker B: You know, I, I'm holding. I, I feel. What? Because you know, my, my friend isn't there.
[01:16:19] Speaker A: All of us, all of us have some feelings, but you know, the world keeping on turning, so we just got to turn with it sometimes it's not easy, but you know, we just got to keep moving. I mean, either we stop the world and let us off or we keep moving.
[01:16:33] Speaker B: Yes, you got a turn, but you still, you're still also up to acknowledge.
[01:16:36] Speaker A: Well, you have a. You have our sympathies as well.
[01:16:39] Speaker B: Hey, hey, God.
[01:16:40] Speaker A: Yes, go ahead.
[01:16:41] Speaker B: Yes, the world keeps turning, but you have to also continue to acknowledge the realities of the present.
[01:16:48] Speaker A: But we know that. But you got a minute now, John? I know you got something to add today. Go ahead. You got, you got one minute before I got to take a quick break again. Go ahead.
[01:16:56] Speaker B: One minute, then call back later.
[01:16:58] Speaker C: Then one minute ain't never enough for you.
[01:17:01] Speaker A: Call back.
[01:17:02] Speaker B: This conversation regarding land.
And one of the callers suggested that persons should not depend on the government right to belong. Right.
I completely, in the strongest sense of complete disagreement and absolute disagreement, disagree with that statement because the government has the biggest response responsibility in this country to create the environment where persons can afford to thrive and survive in their country. And a part of that prosperity is home ownership. Home ownership is one of the biggest single factors of wealth creation.
[01:17:40] Speaker A: So where we failed, where we failed. Where we failed in home ownership.
[01:17:44] Speaker B: Anton, Most persons on the planet will ever attain.
[01:17:47] Speaker A: Anton, I know this is a different.
[01:17:49] Speaker B: You.
[01:17:50] Speaker A: Where have we failed in the whole scheme of home ownership? It cannot just be. Home ownership is the end result. Where is the beginning of the failure?
[01:17:59] Speaker B: Professor Gar. One of the biggest problems that we have in the country. I Hope. And I've cautioned PM Davis and the government and send out some signals when myself, yourself and Howard previously spoke about this matter.
God is that. Look, we made a mistake in Nassau, right? In the capital.
We have allowed for the very poor policy of Prime Minister Ingram. That poor policy with that non reform bill.
[01:18:31] Speaker A: You're pointing. But once again, Anton, listen to what I'm saying to you. You're pointing at the government, right? And I'm saying, hold on. I'm saying to you, I am certain, I am very certain since 1973, I'm certain about this life was about four or five years old, that certain opportunities were made available to the citizenry of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas.
[01:18:50] Speaker B: Right?
[01:18:51] Speaker A: Those, those infrastructural situations were available to all and sundry.
[01:18:57] Speaker B: And that's what I want to tie into.
[01:18:58] Speaker A: God, go ahead, please, because I don't want to blame the government for this totally.
[01:19:02] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[01:19:02] Speaker A: Okay, go ahead.
[01:19:03] Speaker B: No, but follow what I'm saying. Before that policy was created, land was supportable pretty much anywhere in this country, okay?
Out west, right in the capital. After that policy came into effect, it took affordability of access to prime land. Not just any land, prime land. It took access and affordability of prime land completely out of the hands of the majority.
[01:19:29] Speaker A: Okay. Can I ask a question? Because you're very, you're very astute. I want to ask you a question.
When we first won the government, we have a new grouping of people that are going to now manage this country. That means that all the land of this archipelago was available to us.
How much money did we have available to us within the first year?
[01:19:51] Speaker B: You mean individually?
[01:19:52] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no. I talk about the government. I talk about under Sir Lyndon Pinling himself. You're now in charge. The responsibility of the archipelago is upon you. You now have local governance. The power of local governance. What was the financial state of that particular cabinet or that particular administration?
[01:20:10] Speaker B: Well, back when we took over, there was a positive.
We were in the black as a government. However, God. What you have to. What you have to acknowledge. Did we have the simple as that? Simply because when. When we, when we came to office as a government, as a solenoid, pennant era, government gas, We. We had complete underdevelopment and every category and every area.
[01:20:30] Speaker A: But did we have money? I don't know if we had money or we had to find collateral to get some money.
[01:20:36] Speaker B: The average and everyday citizen for the majority did not help.
[01:20:39] Speaker A: Yes, I talk about the government. Now. The government's going to the treasury how much money is available to us to pay civil servants after we got the government? That's what I want to know.
[01:20:48] Speaker B: The government had had their hands on the finances of the country or the ability to borrow monies.
[01:20:54] Speaker A: Okay, stop, stop, stop, Anton, that's a different show. Now. That's a different show. Use the word borrow.
They had to borrow. So we got to go through the whole. Like, even the government has to borrow or tax. Yes, you're quite correct. I told you smart. I know you might find you smart. So you borrow or your tax. Now, today, in 2025, right. The government is still borrowing and the government is still taxing. And while we're borrowing and taxing, you in the midst of all of this, as a financial crisis is saying to the people, I can give each one of y' all an acre. Land for what? Let me hear this.
[01:21:30] Speaker B: Who's saying that?
[01:21:31] Speaker A: No, I asking you. I just asking you. I just asking you. Because we talk about housing crisis or housing affordability crisis. Because last time I checked, we still didn't afford to run this country yet on our own with our own money.
Last time I check.
[01:21:44] Speaker B: We have some decisions to make, and I agree that we do.
[01:21:47] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[01:21:48] Speaker B: Decisions to make that would benefit.
[01:21:49] Speaker A: And while you're waiting for them to figure out how to financially folk this country, you can suck your teeth across your arms.
[01:21:56] Speaker B: However. However. God. However. Right. And the purpose of why I called him.
[01:22:00] Speaker A: Yes, sir.
[01:22:00] Speaker B: To acknowledge that, look, the government has the biggest and the greatest responsibility.
[01:22:04] Speaker A: Yes, you're right.
[01:22:05] Speaker B: Affordable housing.
And it is also in the best position. Right?
[01:22:10] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:22:11] Speaker B: Based. Based on leveraging its ability to build in mass.
[01:22:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:22:16] Speaker B: And based on its ability to purchase everything in mass, which would. Which they would then be able to pass those savings on to the bohemian people. Okay. Based on its ability to sell or to guarantee.
[01:22:29] Speaker A: I appreciate you, Antonia. I got to take these five calls. I got calls with my phone lit up. I. You could call back, but I got to take these calls.
[01:22:34] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:22:35] Speaker A: Much appreciation. Next caller, please. Go ahead.
[01:22:38] Speaker B: Yeah, good day to you.
[01:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah, go ahead.
[01:22:42] Speaker B: All right. I will lose my china.
Yeah. Another lamb. What I try to figure out. I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, Right.
If you have parents and they died and they leave a will for you.
[01:22:56] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:22:56] Speaker B: Right.
Someone in charge of the will back it up.
Right. Satan. That have any become of age.
And if that person decide to take whatever assets was left and use it up for themselves or to get personal gain from it, wouldn't. Wouldn't that seem like something wrong with that they, they.
[01:23:18] Speaker C: The thing about what I know personally about wills and, and leaving executor, these are legal documents. So that person, the executor can't just do what the will doesn't give them the authority to do. So they can't just go ahead squander that person's inheritance.
[01:23:37] Speaker A: They shouldn't they?
[01:23:38] Speaker C: Well, not unless the will gives them authority to spend. And even when it does, it says that only within reason. And the lawyer and, or the legal firm representing that is supposed to check be the, they're supposed to be checks and balances in there. Whereas if, let's say if it's a home you're managing and taking care of so the, that person, the executor has to present receipts and bills for, for these various things.
And if you have a good attorney, they would structure things in a way. Whereas whomever you in intend to give this house, let's say we're using house since we're talking about housing. House 2 does not squander away whatever funds you may have left for your child to maintain that house or do anything outside of that.
[01:24:29] Speaker A: Checks and balances. Go ahead, call up quickly.
[01:24:31] Speaker B: Yeah, well, the government is guilty of that. The reason why I said that, right, and that's your ancestors came into this country. They suffered, died, bled for this country, died for this land.
And when the Queen decided to give us the Constitution, she turned the land over to us. That is called crown land.
And today we are not benefiting. And some Bahamians feel as though they don't deserve it even though their ancestors fight and die.
[01:24:59] Speaker A: Let me ask you a question.
[01:25:00] Speaker B: The government is taking it and giving it to whom they will.
[01:25:03] Speaker A: I can ask you a question though. Do you recall when the Flamingo was attacked?
[01:25:09] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:25:10] Speaker A: Okay. Who came to our defense?
The US or the US did So we independently entitled to this land. Can we defend this land?
[01:25:19] Speaker B: No, we can't.
[01:25:20] Speaker A: Okay, can we go ahead and say we're going to take over Haiti, we're going to take over Jamaica, we're going to take, take over Cuba, we're going to take over Barbados, we can't even.
[01:25:28] Speaker B: Take over the Bahamas.
[01:25:29] Speaker A: Okay, so when you say this our land, you talking about a man who can't defend his house? If the thief know we ain't got no systems in place. If the robber know you ain't got no systems in place. If the murderer know you ain't got no systems in place, they come in to take their things that ain't yours no more, that's theirs and so what I keep trying to say to people is that when you speak about this independence, you talk about this our land, it telling you crown line because it is the crown that protects you. I asking you this. The relationship with Britain and America is for your own benefit and your own protection. And like you know, there is nothing for free. That's why you got to pay property tax. That's why you're paying vat. Vat. You don't even know where the money going. If you so much in charge, you tell me where the money going. I don't know. You don't know. And guess what? Don't care what government you support, whether it's the PLP or the fm, ain't none of us tell us what where have that money going.
I look, I looked at an article.
[01:26:27] Speaker B: From 2022 and they spoke about the $7.7 billion allegedly are in the control of something.
Now when that was brought up, they say there people from life and stuff like that. But that's where the money is going right there.
[01:26:46] Speaker A: When that's yours, I ain't fool with that. Let me take another caller. Next caller, please. Go ahead, next caller. Go ahead, call. Go ahead. Hey, how you doing my brother?
[01:26:56] Speaker B: Everything good?
[01:26:56] Speaker A: Man, you called and tell me they clean up my property. They clean up the property next to my house.
I am a party. I ain't getting a drink, I ain't getting nothing, I ain't getting my yard playing. What's going on?
[01:27:09] Speaker B: I can have a big party for you. Is that Gandhi? No, Gabby, I talk on for good show.
[01:27:18] Speaker A: She do a good note. She do a good show on my show.
[01:27:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, she did.
You need to bring on with you sometimes.
[01:27:24] Speaker A: No, no, no. You're trying to fire my boy Diamond. You can't fire darling Russell. Go fire Diamond.
[01:27:28] Speaker C: Listen, I try to cause no problems in this house, huh?
[01:27:32] Speaker B: That's woman nice man bring woman on. Let me have some woman voice on her.
[01:27:36] Speaker A: But I got some woman who love Darvin Russell and if I give it him.
Okay, go ahead, Will. I got two minutes. Go ahead.
[01:27:43] Speaker B: The will is the final.
[01:27:46] Speaker C: Testament.
[01:27:48] Speaker B: Testament of the of the dead person.
Two things will does and I'm speaking from experience.
Either brings a family together or tear them apart or divide a family.
[01:27:59] Speaker C: That's what death is doing, is tell you apart.
[01:28:00] Speaker B: Listen to me and I'm not ashamed to say this. I have a brother that says that. He's a bishop in Freeport, Grand Bahama. Yeah. This year I've made six years since my mommy died after the Will was read. The request was to read the will at the revive.
[01:28:18] Speaker C: What Jesus?
[01:28:19] Speaker B: My brother haven't spoken to me from the veil was read. So today he's supposed to be the peacemaker.
[01:28:25] Speaker A: We gonna pray for reconciliation. Julian and I appreciate your call. I got two minutes. Could I take another caller? Go ahead.
[01:28:32] Speaker B: Listen, huh. I say to man, it's a rare one of the biggest Baptist church in Grandmama.
[01:28:37] Speaker A: I hear you, but I got to.
[01:28:38] Speaker C: Get you these callers man as well. Though your brother is but a man.
[01:28:42] Speaker A: So let me get these other callers on the next show.
Next caller, go ahead, please.
[01:28:48] Speaker B: Hey, I had to call back. You know, we talk about the real property tax and now let's talk about another matter. You know, we talk about the Ingram administration introducing that.
Exactly. You know, the irony of this whole thing is we had successive governments even after his administration who did not bother to even change this thing. But it opened blaming. You could keep on blaming Ingram for this thing. We had the Christie administration, we had the Minnesota administration. Now we have the Davis administration and nothing is being done to repeal this thing. You know, we keep on blaming the. You know, honestly the way how this country is going to between these two political party governments. And I'm specifically putting it like this because out here they said Peter and Paul are twin brothers. Okay? The things that does not work in favor of the Bahamian people. None of these administrations came forward and repealed them, change them back. We talked about the real property tax.
[01:29:56] Speaker A: We're gonna have another show on that another time. Jeff, let me take another caller because we run out of time. Thanks a lot. Jeff. Jeff. Next caller, please, quickly. You got one minute.
[01:30:03] Speaker B: Yes. You know, like they said it. Only.
Only problem with a foot, the white man. And I disagree with you too. Right? And you know, this, that's. This, this is. No, that's. This is what you call it. A neo. Neo colonial.
What you call it. A playbook. You know what I'm saying? A new level playbook. No land distribution. Sell out. Sell private assets. You understand me? No, no social programs. That's what this playbook is wrote. I mean, talking about reparation.
[01:30:38] Speaker C: All the way.
[01:30:39] Speaker B: Oh, Lord. 40 acres in the land plus.
Come on now.
[01:30:44] Speaker A: Well, listen, I appreciate you.
[01:30:46] Speaker B: This, this a playbook. This is a playbook for the, for the, for the. What you call it?
The foreign investors. And you understand.
[01:30:53] Speaker A: Okay. And I, I, I can, I can join you on that. And I.
[01:30:56] Speaker B: That's. So that's, that's what you call it?
Opposition. What you call it. That's what you call it?
[01:31:03] Speaker A: We can Continue this Part 2 later on in the week.
But let me. Let me take. Let me take these. These callers, man. The line lit up. I just gave him already 30 seconds. All right, next caller, 30 seconds. Go ahead.
[01:31:14] Speaker C: Five minutes left in the show.
[01:31:15] Speaker A: Yeah, right here, man.
[01:31:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I just want to ask you to listen to me and I.
The father of the boy that was killed on the 3rd of August.
[01:31:26] Speaker A: My Lord.
[01:31:29] Speaker B: I just want the public to know that there's nothing to do with gang. My son was not a member of any gang.
[01:31:36] Speaker A: Could you leave your number with the producer for me, please? Call him back and give him that number for me, please. I want to talk to you. Okay, thanks. All right, next caller, go ahead, please.
Next call.
[01:31:47] Speaker B: Hey, yeah, I only need 30 seconds.
[01:31:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I got. I got it lit up.
[01:31:52] Speaker B: I can call you.
[01:31:53] Speaker A: No, Anton, I got to do it. Another call, another call. Go ahead, please.
[01:31:58] Speaker B: Call.
[01:31:58] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[01:31:59] Speaker B: Yes, let me use my 30 seconds to maintain a property in the Bahamas.
[01:32:03] Speaker A: This is Yellen. Yeah, I'm sorry, I gotta take another caller. Come on, man. Let these other folks say something. Let these other folks say something. Next caller, go ahead.
[01:32:09] Speaker C: Oh, that's the caller from.
[01:32:11] Speaker A: Okay. All right, folks, I. I gotta. I gotta give these people some respect. I know everybody wants to say something and, and you know you want to say it, but other people want to say. They'll say too. So you got to forgive me, but I got to do these things, you know? God's human Ingram is still to blame because of the high cost of land. Because he wasn't supposed to repeal the act, he was supposed to abolish the act.
He repealed the Immovable Properties act to implement a strong act. This is how we got here today. I'm only reading, folks.
I can't even. Yeah, I can't even scrutinize these. Good day. I should have. I should not have to pay tax on a $300,000 house because my house price is artificially inflated. Inflated. One idiot is one idiot. Two idiots are two idiots. 10,000 idiots are a political party.
That was a quote.
Why are you trying to answer the caller? Who wants to know where to get land for a thousand dollars down as the Port Authority in Grand Bahama, you can buy land in certain areas of Grand Bahama for $7,500 with 10% down and all legal fees are down in house, including title search.
That's good information to know.
Next one.
The biggest issue is banks. I know lots of people that make good money and have great jobs and the bank will not loan them enough for a proper house in a safe area. They make 200 million in net profit and can't lend us back any money.
Next. Next text. Oh gee. See, here we go again. Challenge Anthon to prove where my government has built any home in the last 50 years. There are solutions, but it is not on the lips of the current leadership. The International Landholders act did not have the impact Anton speaks of. So Anton, you're going to have to have another show where we discuss these things. Good afternoon God. Interesting show. You started the show by referring to the story of the prodigal son and he said you are not preaching, but you have a good voice for preaching and you can tell you are supposed to preach the word using bible stories.
When I used to be a preacher, they fire me. They get rid of freeing me like you did. It's good too. Yeah, they fire me after sending them told me to baptize them. They fire me.
[01:34:15] Speaker C: This is a hot button issue. Some people feel like you should just give them land Behemoth. You should just give bohemian people land.
[01:34:22] Speaker A: Some people feel it say those last two callers are die hard PLPs and don't want to admit their failures in certain aspects. I'm only reading through them, Gabby. I only reading through them through it quickly. Good day gods and guests. The ownership of the Bahamas will always value our land for their financial gain. The organic Bahamians do not own anything that's tax free. Never will happen. So think again Behemoth, and become independent for real. Ask Jehovah God Almighty say a lie. I think that's going to.
[01:34:48] Speaker C: My only thing is when we.
[01:34:51] Speaker A: One more text. Gabby. I just finished paying off my mortgage last month. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah. We got a party for for you. And I would tell you it's fees on top of fees on top of fees. Jesus, you know. So listen man, folks, I know we can't take any more calls. Gabby, take the show.
[01:35:08] Speaker C: I mean we have about one more minute left.
And the thing about it is it's so much things tied into this housing thing. This isn't just a one cut and done. Give you some land and boom, you able to run with it. There is you give persons land there has to be. Because even when we give these persons land what the rich could come and do, they find some way to swindle you, order it because you ain't know no better or guess what? You will be now at liberty to the banks because you need their money to build on this land. So if you miss a payment, God help you. During the pandemic was the prime example of that.
The bank wasn't.
The prime minister begged and pleaded for, hey, give. Give homeowners a chance. Guess what? The banks had to put people out. Put people out of their mortgages. You were not making payments. The pandemic had nothing to do with them. They expect their mortgage payments to be met every month.
[01:36:08] Speaker A: Well, listen here, man, we. We got so much things to talk about. I mean, this ain't remark. You know, this how we jam on Sundays. But we've been given an opportunity. Opportunity to sit in, to fill in this space, this void. And like Antoine says, we're all family. We all love each other, but. This is Cotton Radio, 96.9 FM. Guardian. Today, we had a great time in conversation. I almost think that we got to do this again Thursday or Friday, Tuesday and Wednesday. I don't know who's sitting here next, but I enjoyed my Thursday, Friday, Monday with you. And with all due respect. Mm. People, let's get the land, let's build, let's maintain it, and let's make this the greatest country on earth. God bless you. Until we speak again.
[01:36:48] Speaker C: Good afternoon. Bahamas.
[01:36:57] Speaker B: I just don't wanna stop oh, my God.
A million days in your arms now.