Guardian Radio Today - April 16 2026

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. 96.9 FM. The views and opinions of the hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the management and staff of Guardian Radio. [00:00:30] Speaker B: Guardian Radio Today is brought to you by the Cleveland Clinic, the Free National Movement, Grace Kennedy, Money Services, Printmasters and the Progressive Liberal Party. [00:01:21] Speaker C: Every man has a place it is hard There's a space and the world can't erase his fantasies Take a ride in the sky on a ship fantasy all your dreams will come true right away and we will live together [00:01:48] Speaker D: until [00:01:50] Speaker C: the 12th of never our voices will ring forever as one. [00:02:06] Speaker E: And we are on our way to the 12th of never where our hearts will beat as one until then we will sing, we will shout, we will celebrate, we will cry together because General Election 2026 is upon us. This is the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. This is Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. I am your host for Guardian Radio today, Garth Maynard Roseborough, sitting in today with Kyle Dean, expecting Gabriel McKenzie Eneas, [00:02:37] Speaker F: and one and only Leslie Lucky Potcake Miller. [00:02:41] Speaker E: They will be here as we continue our roundtable discussion. [00:02:44] Speaker F: And as you all very well know, there was a lot of excitement, exuberance on the streets of New Providence today especially. [00:02:52] Speaker E: I have not yet gotten reports from Grand Bahama or any of the other family. This to you. As I awoke from five this morning, I got a text reminding me of [00:03:03] Speaker F: a conversation that I had with Howard [00:03:05] Speaker E: Grant right here on Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. [00:03:09] Speaker F: We were making some pretty strong statements, but that was some time ago and [00:03:13] Speaker E: a time has already elapsed. [00:03:15] Speaker F: And as you know that we are now in the full swing of electoral mode. We are in the full swing. When I say full swing, you're hearing all the jingles and the music and you're looking at all of these trucks that have not moved in months. They're now on the streets. Nobody is complaining about the price of gas for those big trucks. [00:03:37] Speaker E: Nobody. [00:03:38] Speaker F: Nobody's complaining about the F150s. No one is complaining about the Silverados. No one is complaining about the Mack trucks and the Caterpillars. Everybody is simply on the road today. The tank is full. [00:03:52] Speaker G: Huh? [00:03:52] Speaker F: Your belly full? I've been to a headquarters on Carmichael Road two nights ago. I tell you all the honest truth today. I have been to school in Jamaica four and a half years. I've tasted it from the hands of the authentic jerk people of Jamaica. And in my lifetime, from this particular headquarters, I have never in my entire life, tasted jerk chicken like I did at one of those headquarters. I'm telling you the truth, my stomach was full already. I had a scrumptious meal for one of those gyro places. I had one of those lamb gyros. And I said, let me stop and see what they saying. The aspirant for that particular area or the Member of Parliament for that particular area. He said, man, you want to taste this chicken? I said, no, man, I'm full already. But I said, you know what? Let me take a bite and see what you got. My God. Oh, my God, I'm so happy. I humbled myself to taste that chicken. When I ate that chicken, I couldn't eat all because I was already full. I'm not a glutton, but I was in the fridge. I went to my bedroom and I said, boy, let me lay down. [00:04:56] Speaker E: And you know, I ain't going to [00:04:57] Speaker F: exercise, and I ain't going to lie to y'. All. I lay down with a belly full of food. I got what they call that rightist thing, what we got, right? And my mouth started to water again. I said, jesus, Lord, I'm a glutton tonight. So I went back to the fridge. I had to finish that. Then I had to send a text to the Member of Parliament, saying, listen to me, I can eat some more that thing. But by the time I got back there, everything was gone. So I only letting you all know right now, these people cooking their best meal ever. This almost feel to me like I own that rope. I getting whatever food I want now. I getting food. I getting rum soda. I getting juice. You get the little shirt with the little flag and the hat. Mind your wardrobe. [00:05:37] Speaker H: Straighten out Thanksgiving. [00:05:39] Speaker F: If you want a little rag for your car to wash your car with, you can get that and all. If you want one show just to say, you know what I want to you, you're getting that right now. Everybody got clothes. Everybody got food. And I saw those trucks this morning. They was life and direct. I telling you the truth, my Lord Carmichael was blocked up. City 2000 was blocked up. And so today, I'm going to allow those people to call in. Wherever you are, I want you to call in and tell me your experience of on nomination day for your constituency. Whoever your man or woman of business is, they got to tell us, how did it feel at this particular moment? We have been awaiting this moment now for at least the last two years. The conversation that I had first thing this morning with Howard, with, you know, talking about Howard Grant and myself on Guardian race, faction, and the need for us to address certain situations, to improve the situation and in order to improve the nation. It was not a political device. It was simply a word of encouragement. And there are many of you, of course, who don't understand what encouragement means. You take everything either negatively or positively. But I have learned in this life that if someone says to you, you need to wash your face, my God, you can stench all you want. The fact still remains you need to wash your face. It's a bit embarrassing. Or if your breath is thick, you're suffering from bad breath, you know, you didn't brush your teeth or you need mint or you need gum or whatever, or you need to go visit the dentist, you get to take care of yourself. And if people are telling you that you are failing or that you are desiring of more, you need to take the time, say, you know what, does this benefit me or not? Today, judgment is upon you. Did you perform as you should have? Are you still complaining? Are you showing your best foot and putting it forward? Where do you now stand today on this, the 16th day of April, as we go into election, general election, 2026? The names are in. The parliamentary general has done his job. We got some names on the book. And just like in heaven, you got those who can be on the left, we got those who are going to be on the right. We got the sheep on the right, the goats on the left, we got the victors on the right and the victors on the. On the left. [00:08:08] Speaker E: I mean, the losers. [00:08:10] Speaker F: So if you are finding yourself today in a situation where it's almost I just simply evident that you're going to lose, then we say to you, you got to take this one for the team. Kyle Dean, you're here today, man. What's going on, man? You're laughing, you're smiling. You had a good experience today, cuz. You tell me you're hungry. You had no chicken like me. [00:08:30] Speaker H: You see, you see, I bought three piece of fruit here. What's up in my bed. [00:08:34] Speaker F: Fruit is good. Fruit is good. [00:08:36] Speaker H: I walked so much this morning. God, my God, my leg. [00:08:38] Speaker F: You walked? [00:08:39] Speaker H: Yeah, man. I had to support the party of my choice. [00:08:41] Speaker F: Or the party of your choice, of course. And you walked. [00:08:43] Speaker H: And I walked. [00:08:44] Speaker F: So what is the purpose of the walking? [00:08:46] Speaker H: Well, to create some excitement. Supporters want to come out to go along with their candidate as they nominate officially for their names to be on the ballot. And so you would see that straight across the board, people would have like motorcades. They would have cars and people would get on and walk behind their candidate and show up support. And today was. I could say where I walked. [00:09:10] Speaker F: Of course you could say, yeah, I [00:09:11] Speaker H: walked in the great constituency of Carmichael. Carmichael, yeah. We're the current Member of parliament and the incoming member of parliament is the honorable Keith Bell. [00:09:21] Speaker F: I would have thought you was in Bamboo Town. You were the second person from Bamboo [00:09:26] Speaker E: Town that I know that walked in Carmichael this morning. [00:09:29] Speaker F: I had someone who met me, Uncle Michael. I was changing the shocks in my car and he said, where are you? I said, I'm changing the shocks in the car close to Gladstone Road area. And they said, I'll meet you there. And I said, where you coming from? He said, a man from Michael. I said, well, you're supposed to be from Bamboo Town. [00:09:44] Speaker E: They said, well, I was in Carmichael today. [00:09:46] Speaker H: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:09:47] Speaker F: So how did Carmichael pull all you people from where you all came from? [00:09:50] Speaker H: But Parliament is a good man. He looks out for people. [00:09:53] Speaker I: He. [00:09:53] Speaker H: He does. [00:09:54] Speaker F: He's a good man. [00:09:55] Speaker H: He looks out for people. [00:09:56] Speaker F: So the person in Bamboo Town ain't good. [00:09:58] Speaker H: I say that. [00:09:58] Speaker E: I'm just. [00:09:59] Speaker F: But I just got to say, you know how people go, [00:10:03] Speaker J: listen, man, this [00:10:04] Speaker F: is God in reality. Day 96.9 FMC Then start I I I and you know, we don't I I, I here. This is Guardian Raider today. We're still waiting on Gabby McKenzie Eneas. We have Leslie Lucky Podcake Mueller coming in here because we want to understand from him the entire process of being nominated and succeeding. And so let's take a quick break, folks. This your favorite show today. Guardian Raider today 96.9 FM. I will throw those numbers out to you. 3236-2323-2543-1632-54259. Anywhere from the family of islands toll free. 300-5720 or you can text in at 422-4796. We take this break. Yes, we will and be right back. Stay t. [00:11:02] Speaker C: All your dreams will come true. Mil says we'll bring together until the 12th of never. [00:11:22] Speaker K: New roads on airports are connecting our islands and electricity prices down while young Bahamians are stepping up, gaining new skills for new opportunities. Respect for workers, support for entrepreneurs. We are modernizing energy and infrastructure across our islands and preparing Bahamians to succeed in a new economy. Transformations this big take time. Let's choose progress paid for by the plp. [00:11:55] Speaker F: Struggling to find your financial rhythm? Make that move to fidelity and let us help you orchestrate your financial goals into Practice perfect harmony with free financial coaching sessions. Make that move today. Call 356-7764, Fidelity. [00:12:11] Speaker C: We're good for you, [00:12:18] Speaker G: Girl. [00:12:19] Speaker L: Junior just showed me Bella boy in his phone. [00:12:21] Speaker M: What you mean? He take picture of that good for nothing boy? [00:12:24] Speaker C: Shh. [00:12:24] Speaker L: You don't want Bella hair. You say that. You know she always say. That's my good child. [00:12:28] Speaker M: So what he doing in Junior phone? [00:12:29] Speaker L: Oh, he there. Cause the police looking for him. He on that wanted list. [00:12:33] Speaker M: Wanted person in your phone now. [00:12:35] Speaker L: Yes, child. And when police won't find anybody. Quick, quick. After something happened, they can send pictures direct to your phone. Go to Google Play or App store and search for crack crime Bahamas. Then pick install and we'll go straight to your phone. Yes, girl. Everybody needs to get this app so police can tell us right away when these people go missing. Just like an alert system. Yes. [00:12:54] Speaker M: It has numbers for Crime Stoppers Bahamas so you can call and nobody knows you. Call directly to Miami and give the information without giving your name or anything about you. I tried the other day and when I hear Junior and his BO talking about where they hide those guns, I walk quick, quick round the corner and call that number. [00:13:10] Speaker N: Call 328-8477 from Nassau or 242-300-8477 from the Family Islands. [00:13:16] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all day. [00:13:26] Speaker C: We'll be together until the 12th. We all will live long forever as one. [00:13:46] Speaker F: Come to say victory in the land of ecstasy. Oh, man, some jams right there. Hey, Chris, we back? [00:13:55] Speaker E: Hey, listen. This is Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. I am in election mode. My head swinging from left to right. I am excited. I cannot wait for this moment to pass. For some of you, it may be fantasy. That's why I'm playing fantasy for you. But you know, we are simply in the land of victory. And so until the day of victory, we got to walk this pathway. And I just got a text. [00:14:26] Speaker F: I know you people thinking, but you people, I don't know if there's a science behind your belief systems, but you know, this is a show that's based [00:14:36] Speaker E: on your involvement and your opinion. And so, Kyle, I'll read this text for you. Garth will be one of the candidates that will win for the plt. Let me repeat that again, Garth. I think they're thinking Sebass will be [00:14:55] Speaker F: one of the candidates that will win for the PLP. But I see the PLP party losing to the FNM. The results will be FNM. [00:15:14] Speaker O: Oh, boy. [00:15:15] Speaker F: 30 seats. ELP 11 seats. [00:15:21] Speaker H: Got that person. [00:15:22] Speaker F: C o I, zero seats. PCP, zero seats. Independents, zero seats. According to this text because they believe only two parties exist. And they gave 30 to the Free National Movement and they gave 11 to the now sitting government as we go into the election. Callie alive on the line. [00:15:49] Speaker P: Hey, guys. What's up? [00:15:50] Speaker E: How y' all doing, man? I'm right here, my brother. What's going on? [00:15:54] Speaker P: Yeah, I think that person who just texted. Are they kind of delusional? [00:15:59] Speaker Q: Right. [00:16:00] Speaker E: Okay. [00:16:01] Speaker P: I believe now I'm being very realistic. Yeah, I know PLP will probably be returning. I know they're gonna be maybe a handful of seats that will not be in their favor. But I think he has that as the opposition may get about 11 to 12 seats and the rest will go to the government. I don't know. And I'm not just saying that I don't know whether or not people are really paying attention to what is actually happening and what is going on around the country. And it's kind of sad that only like everything else, everything else is Nassau central, Nassau centric. Nassau centric. If you were to look at the family islands and whatnot as well, maybe one, two, that may be a little off, maybe one being Grand Bahama and Abaco. But if you look around, I don't see. Personally, I don't see. And based on some of the things I've been told from some colleagues and whatnot, I don't see the opposition caring much of anything out there. I think their salvation would probably just be Nassau. But I don't think it's going to be a turn of government or anything of that nature. I just think it's going to be maybe, like I said, maybe 12 seats are opposition and current government will carry the ballot. Bain is concerned. I don't know what kind of campaign he's running. I don't know what kind of campaign they're running. It's like they're invisible and they're thinking that just being on social media alone is going to make brave big of a difference. And the way that they're campaigning is not. It's not usual. So I'm trying to, you know, like. Like other people who I know and I've been talking to, I'm trying to [00:18:12] Speaker F: figure out what are they doing. [00:18:13] Speaker P: I mean, this. You got weeks away from a campaign. No public meetings, no nothing like that. They're expecting for everybody to either go online or go down by their headquarters meeting, and you don't hear nothing in the islands. You don't hear. How could, how could be people take them serious, man. [00:18:35] Speaker E: All right, I appreciate your call, man. That is a caller that has some opinions. Number one, he does not believe that the government is going to change. Number two, he believes that the salvation of the royal opposition is going to be in Nassau only. And he also believes the COI at this time seemingly is absent or invisible, nonexistent, because they have not touched the family of islands in depth, and neither have they touched the Nasuvian people other than social media to have public gatherings or any other device in terms of rallying the Bahamian people's support. And so that was a very much on point observation. Of course I said it's his opinion, but it does sound somewhat sensible. But if you disagree, of course you have every right to do so. You can call in at 323-623-2325-431632-54259, anywhere 720, or you can text in at 422-4796. Calling you on the line. [00:19:42] Speaker F: Hey, great Shu, Garth, how you doing? How you doing? [00:19:44] Speaker E: Good, my friend. What's going on? [00:19:46] Speaker F: Yeah, my opinion is right with the coi, right? [00:19:49] Speaker O: They're not going to win the election by any stretch of the imagination. [00:19:52] Speaker F: That's just simply not going to happen. But you have to admit with me on this one, they're going to be spoilers if you are. [00:19:59] Speaker J: I guarantee you. [00:20:00] Speaker F: God, if you add loser rate, if you put the loser rate and then you put the votes that the COI pulled, if those votes actually go towards the loser, they probably would have won election. [00:20:12] Speaker E: What the other side to that is, what if those people that voted for the CIA are also part of those people who choose not to vote at all? [00:20:24] Speaker O: Okay, you could look at. [00:20:26] Speaker J: Point taken, point taken. [00:20:27] Speaker E: So it's possible that they are appealing to those people who were borderline in choosing not to vote, but said, you know what, I'll vote anyhow and throw my vote. I have someone in my household, someone in my family, who was at one point just simply wanting to throw away the vote to an independent, just give it away because they weren't satisfied with the candidates that were given to them. And so people have a right to [00:20:52] Speaker F: vote for what makes sense to them. [00:20:54] Speaker E: And if they feel as if there's [00:20:56] Speaker F: no sensible choice, but they do want [00:20:57] Speaker E: to participate in the democratic process, they [00:21:00] Speaker F: may simply just say, you know what, [00:21:01] Speaker E: I'll give it to them, knowing very well that it's not going to add up to anything, but it simply makes A statement that democracy is alive and well in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. That's also plausible, but I do our view. You want to add anything to that? [00:21:15] Speaker F: Yeah, that's one way to look at it. [00:21:18] Speaker E: Indeed. Indeed. Indeed, indeed. Well, I appreciate you, man. Always your support. I appreciate you so much. We are about to go through some tumultuous waters as we go into General Election 2026, and I do appreciate you always being by my side and joining in the conversation. Let me see if there's another call on the line. [00:21:35] Speaker R: Call. [00:21:35] Speaker E: Are you live? [00:21:37] Speaker S: Hi, good day. How are you? [00:21:38] Speaker F: I am wonderful. [00:21:39] Speaker E: It's great to hear from you. [00:21:40] Speaker S: Thank you. Thank you. It's nomination day and I'm only calling in to do one thing and let Jo Bette Colby Davis know it. Mash up in Elizabeth. She got this. We going all the way. Jo Bette or no Bet? [00:21:53] Speaker F: No, no, no, no. Listen, Gabby just came in the studio [00:21:56] Speaker E: and when you said that, Gabby starts smiling. [00:21:59] Speaker F: She ain't smiling when she see me. She ain't smile when she smiles. She ain't smiled when she see Kyle. But when she heard your voice on the phone, she starts smiling. [00:22:07] Speaker S: You know what time it is? It's your bedtime. [00:22:09] Speaker F: No, Gabby. Gabby. I don't know. I don't know what to say with Gabby because I look like I lose Gabby some time ago. Everybody loved Gabby, but I ain't sure Gabby still love me. [00:22:18] Speaker S: Oh, my goodness, Gabby, you gotta show him some love. [00:22:23] Speaker F: I just pull in her hair today. Man, it's so good to have your voice. And so tell me a little bit more about Jo Beth's situation. [00:22:28] Speaker E: How was it out there? [00:22:29] Speaker F: Tell me when you mean mashup. [00:22:31] Speaker E: Define me. [00:22:32] Speaker S: I mean that the Ministry of Works have to come. They have to see if they could fix the road down here on Commonwealth Boulevard. Because, I mean, the PLP just take over. Joe Bat or no bear, took over the road. There was a motorcade. I mean, they walked from the park. They walked into Delma Gibson. It was a movie scene out here. I've never seen nothing like this before. [00:22:52] Speaker E: Well, could you give us any numbers? What are the numbers looking like out there? [00:22:56] Speaker S: I couldn't even count. I don't even know if the count could go that high. I was saying 2,000, 3,000, 4,000. I said, Lord, where all these people coming from now? [00:23:07] Speaker F: Some rallies ain't even got a thousand. [00:23:08] Speaker E: What you're talking about? [00:23:09] Speaker F: You sure you calling this number right? [00:23:11] Speaker S: About Elizabeth and Joe B. Colby Davis movie time. [00:23:16] Speaker F: So if you had to forecast. [00:23:18] Speaker E: Let's say out of 6,7000 voters in Elizabeth, how much votes you figure Jobet's going to get? [00:23:24] Speaker T: How much you say? About six. [00:23:27] Speaker E: Yeah, 60, 60%, 75%, 80%, 90%, 90%, 100%. [00:23:33] Speaker S: I don't know. [00:23:35] Speaker F: You gotta be nice now. I know she got 100%. [00:23:37] Speaker S: Who else running Elizabeth? [00:23:39] Speaker F: You know, we have a decent lady by the name of Heather Hunt. She is a very decent person. [00:23:43] Speaker S: Oh, wow. She lost, she lost her husband about [00:23:48] Speaker E: some eight months ago. Condolences continue to be extended to her, [00:23:51] Speaker S: but condolences to Ms. Heather. [00:23:54] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:23:54] Speaker S: But at the same time, Joe Colby Davis, that's all we're hearing here. [00:23:59] Speaker E: Well, I appreciate you so much. God bless you. Great to hear from you. [00:24:02] Speaker F: Let me take another call. [00:24:03] Speaker E: The next caller on the line, my [00:24:05] Speaker O: brother, how are you, man? [00:24:07] Speaker E: I'm doing well, man. Sitting with Kyle Dean and Gabriel McKenzie Eneas. [00:24:11] Speaker N: Yes. Good afternoon to the rest of the team. Ms. McKenzie Eneas, right? [00:24:17] Speaker U: Yes, sir. [00:24:18] Speaker E: Don't start. [00:24:18] Speaker U: Good afternoon. [00:24:19] Speaker F: Don't start. [00:24:20] Speaker V: Yes, [00:24:23] Speaker N: I am also McKinsey. So I'm proud of the, you know, that's the name that underline C, you know. [00:24:31] Speaker E: Oh, okay. Yeah. [00:24:33] Speaker N: When I was abused and persuaded many [00:24:36] Speaker F: years ago to vote. [00:24:39] Speaker N: I have one issue that I am very much concerned of that the party that I vote for and it seems like this is a spirit and you, you, you, you and Ms. McKenzie Enius don't like to talk about it. [00:24:58] Speaker E: Listening. [00:24:58] Speaker N: The party that I vote for, there's a culture of spirit of entitlement. I know that there always is a reward. But I think some of those old God who have been supported by the spirit of entitlement for so long, I need some of, I think some of them need to go in the sunset retired and take any grandchildren. Do you agree with me or you don't agree? [00:25:30] Speaker E: Well, it all depends. But I'm listening to you. That's a conversation you must agree. [00:25:35] Speaker N: I think that's the conversation need to come up, this spirit of entitlement because now we haven't. We have an everyone now trying to do skullduggery in our country. And I'm well over 70. Let me ask you, I've never seen it this far. [00:25:50] Speaker E: Let me ask you a question. I figure in my lifetime I have worked extremely hard to be the person that I am. [00:25:57] Speaker F: I'm not yet complete. [00:25:59] Speaker E: I'm not perfect. I have much room for improvement. But at the same time, my work, [00:26:06] Speaker F: either you respect me or you don't. Either you can appreciate me or you [00:26:11] Speaker E: can't Now, I am over 50 years of age. I'm going to say this to you very strongly. At my age, I believe that I am overdue for some entitlement. I've already sacrificed most of my life. I already shared most of my life. I've given my energy most of my life. [00:26:27] Speaker F: And I'm reaching a point where I'm saying, you know what? [00:26:29] Speaker E: Someone need to give God a little something. [00:26:31] Speaker F: Just a little bit of love feels wise. My body is not the way it [00:26:34] Speaker E: used to be 10 years ago. Is it not? [00:26:38] Speaker F: I cannot push as hard as I used to yet. [00:26:42] Speaker E: My brain may be sharp, but every [00:26:44] Speaker F: now and then my body says to me, buddy, your rope is coming to [00:26:48] Speaker E: an end at 57. [00:26:51] Speaker F: If we are Bible believing people 3 score and 10, that means I got 13 years left by way of civil understanding. [00:26:59] Speaker E: Retirement is at age 65. Just being real with you. [00:27:02] Speaker F: So that's another eight years. If I cannot get any entitlement now, the only thing entitled after that is death. [00:27:11] Speaker E: But I've already worked hard most of my life. [00:27:12] Speaker F: And so I try not to get into a position of judging who should [00:27:16] Speaker E: get and who should not get because [00:27:18] Speaker F: I don't fully appreciate or understand what it took for them to get to the point of entitlement. I don't know what sacrifices they made. I don't know where. And so what I have done in my lifetime, I've stayed focused on my own path, my way forward. What can I do to make myself better? And if there's something for me to be rewarded with, I'll take it. If there's nothing to be given to me, I continue pushing forward as hard [00:27:43] Speaker E: as I could, as best as I could. And I give thanks and praise to God. [00:27:46] Speaker F: That's how I live. I don't know if you think the same way, but that's the way I live. [00:27:51] Speaker N: Can I respond? [00:27:52] Speaker E: Of course you can. That's why I'm waiting. [00:27:55] Speaker N: Even though you're selling me haven't get a chance. [00:28:00] Speaker F: Mm. [00:28:00] Speaker N: You get a bone. [00:28:02] Speaker Q: Mm. [00:28:03] Speaker N: And you still seem to be looking for more. If this is so what you were saying, and if this trend continue, when you gonna get your bone? Because the old gods will not go away. They still believe that they are entitled. How is that fair or not? [00:28:21] Speaker F: Well, as for me, as I was [00:28:22] Speaker E: saying, there's some bones that I should never have. If I eat some bones, I may get choked. [00:28:26] Speaker N: I want you to answer that. [00:28:27] Speaker F: No, I. I'm hearing you. What's your name? God's what? Roseboro. [00:28:33] Speaker P: Mr. Roseburg. [00:28:34] Speaker E: Yes, sir. [00:28:34] Speaker W: Is that fair to you? [00:28:36] Speaker N: Now you have soil and you believe you entitled. But some of the old God being here for umpteen years still believe that they are entitled. [00:28:46] Speaker W: Is that fair? [00:28:46] Speaker N: Yes or no? [00:28:47] Speaker F: I believe it's a personal thing. Honestly I do. Because age is a number. Your contribution to the universe is only a number. There are some people. [00:28:57] Speaker N: You just stated a moment ago, God only promised you three score. [00:29:00] Speaker E: Yes, yes. And beyond that is by way of strength. [00:29:05] Speaker F: Let me tell you something. My grandmother. Let me just tell a quick story. [00:29:08] Speaker E: My grandmother, Winston Salem, North Carolina, in the year 2000. She died at age 93. [00:29:15] Speaker F: My grandmother, my paternal grandmother was the president of the Senior Citizen Association. My paternal grandmother was a student at Cleveland, North Carolina. She was a student starting her bachelor's degree at age 93. My grandmother. My grandmother was the fabric of inspiration to generations after her. And she was. I mean, I feel she was entitled to more than she ever had before because her purpose was to show and guide those behind us that anything you put your mind to is possible. I don't limit people in whatever they pursue. I simply say to myself, if I can overcome, if I can stand, if I can be a witness, if I can be an example, if I can hold your hand and lead you to green pastures, then by all means I have to do this. As we look through our nation where young men are falling apart, where young women are becoming strained under numerous children being born to them, and there's no financial support, somebody got to stand. We need more elderly people to be given additional resources in order to help those who cannot help themselves. That's just the way I feel. I am not going. I'm not going to watch you and judge you based on your entitlement. I'm not going to do that. [00:30:32] Speaker W: So you saw. [00:30:33] Speaker N: So you sound like you are in agreement with the F and M. Giving single mothers $200 when they have. [00:30:39] Speaker F: Why do I have to be in agreement with the F and M? Why can't it just simply be in agreement with common sense? I have never told you I'm an F and M. I've never told them a plp. I've never told them a coi. I've never told you anything other than my name is Garth Maynard Roseborough. [00:30:53] Speaker W: Well, I have a little problem with [00:30:56] Speaker N: that from a moral point of view, okay? [00:30:58] Speaker F: I'm not Catholic, I'm not Anglican. [00:30:59] Speaker E: I'm not Seventh Adventist. [00:31:00] Speaker F: Not Roseborough. That's. That's the name I was given when I was born. And that's the name I'm sure they'll put on my grave soon when I die. [00:31:07] Speaker N: Okay, okay, but I, I. Okay, just. [00:31:10] Speaker F: It's just only a moment. [00:31:11] Speaker N: Just using a premise. [00:31:12] Speaker F: I know I'm having fun with you, having a good talk with you, and I appreciate you. I understand what you're saying, you know, but we gotta have a good talk. I gotta let you go, my friend. But it's. It's a pleasure talking to you. I hope to hear from you again. Thank you so much. Let me take another caller. [00:31:26] Speaker E: Next call on the line. [00:31:27] Speaker D: Good afternoon, guys. How's everything, man? [00:31:29] Speaker F: Are you right here, man? [00:31:30] Speaker E: I'm trying to let Kyle and Gabby [00:31:31] Speaker F: get in this conversation, but they hit me today. [00:31:33] Speaker D: But go ahead, Gabby, what you can. [00:31:36] Speaker U: Hi, my darling. I'm good. How are you? [00:31:38] Speaker W: Gabby, I must say, if I have to go off. [00:31:40] Speaker F: What I saw the crowd, the leader of the opposition had a massive crowd in grandma today. That was that, that was like no other. I, I think they're hyped up around this town. Or you see a bunch of ethnic flags around town. Are they saying they're not to fly? Nobody yet. So that ran across with the rest the other night. [00:32:01] Speaker D: They had to go back home. [00:32:03] Speaker F: So. So, so whereas I may want to agree with you that there may have [00:32:06] Speaker E: been a good crowd because I didn't [00:32:07] Speaker F: see the crowd for the leader. For the leader of the opposition. No, no, no, no. This is what I said to you, though. [00:32:15] Speaker E: No, no, no. [00:32:16] Speaker F: This is what I saying to you. [00:32:17] Speaker E: I hear in you, and I'm not gonna fight you. [00:32:18] Speaker F: All I'm simply saying you is that when we go to the next, you have receipts and proof of people say, [00:32:23] Speaker D: I mean the flights. You see people going to the airport. [00:32:29] Speaker F: Bring me the flight manifest and tell me how many people could fit on this one plane. That's all I want to know. If they had 10 planes. I ain't fighting you, man. Only saying, you know where I sit. I just want the manifest for the flights, that's all. Could I get that? [00:32:45] Speaker E: I appreciate you, my friend. [00:32:46] Speaker F: Listen, folks, man, Kyle, Dean, what you saying, man? They talk about this rent a crowd. Is this rent a crowd a real thing or how does rent a crowd work? [00:32:57] Speaker H: Oh, boy. This is a rhetoric that supporters of the Free National Movement is using to justify why they can't draw a crowd. Grand Bahama noticeably had a larger support for rallies the Progressive Liberal Party than the FNM does. You just have to admit that. Furthermore, the FNM had a rally this week sometime, right, Gabby? [00:33:25] Speaker F: Don't put Gabby And I think I'll [00:33:26] Speaker H: be doing business trying to figure out [00:33:28] Speaker U: if it's you don't go on news car. You're on the radio. You need to keep up. You need me to fact check you? Is that what you're. You're trying to draw me into the conversation? [00:33:37] Speaker F: No, no, no, no. [00:33:38] Speaker U: Okay, I'm just. Just making sure. Just making sure. So don't call for me. So they happen to all the rallies. By the way, in case you don't listen to the Guardian radio today, I had a show yesterday. By the way, it's Wednesday 2 to 4pm Oh I didn't, I didn't. Oh, okay. Now you know, continue though. [00:33:55] Speaker H: I don't go to all the rallies so I can't. I don't have the Tates down park, you know. But see Chris laughing at you. [00:34:02] Speaker F: Boy, you better get yourself straight. [00:34:03] Speaker H: She had a rally this week. [00:34:04] Speaker F: Gabby been away recently. She come back with attitude. You better watch it. [00:34:07] Speaker H: Plenty of attitude. Plenty attitude. [00:34:09] Speaker U: I pick it up right in Bimini. [00:34:11] Speaker F: Oh Lord, Bimini. [00:34:12] Speaker E: People could fight it and punch in the morning. [00:34:14] Speaker H: The crowd was not impressive at all to you. [00:34:18] Speaker J: Uh huh. [00:34:19] Speaker H: It was not impressive to anybody. [00:34:22] Speaker U: Were you present. See that's a difference. Bitches used to say a thousand words and see now let me say good afternoon to the wonderful listeners. Because Kyle and God always trying to cause me to forget my manners. So good afternoon to you wonderful people. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. We had such a wonderful show yesterday, God. And Kyle seems like he doesn't listen to Guardian radio today. So I have to try to figure out what he is we doing between two to four. [00:34:49] Speaker E: So let me fix this, Let me fix this. Let me fix this. [00:34:51] Speaker F: Maybe on Wednesday. [00:34:53] Speaker E: Just bring him on. [00:34:56] Speaker F: Listen, listen, listen. I always try to make peace. Just invite him on one show on Wednesday so he could feel the full power of Gabby. [00:35:04] Speaker U: But what I wanted to say though, and it's a reason why I tell people that this pictures used to say a thousand words. But with the creation and the implementation of a lot of AI generated things and it getting so much better. I seldom believe now what I see in pictures and even some video guy. [00:35:24] Speaker E: Okay. [00:35:25] Speaker U: Often time now you need to check, double check, triple check, reverse AI and go there yourself. That's why I've been attending everything. You know Kyle, I was at the launch of the PLP manifesto as well. I didn't see you. [00:35:40] Speaker H: We was so much people there, you could see me. First of all, were you looking for me? [00:35:45] Speaker U: I was looking for you. [00:35:46] Speaker H: You was not looking for me. [00:35:47] Speaker F: I was looking for you. You would have come on, you would [00:35:49] Speaker U: have find somewhere to stay for you [00:35:51] Speaker H: where you is and I would have come take you. [00:35:54] Speaker F: Not like them other political parties who don't take care of my house. We can go to a break. I can, I can mash this up in here and when we come back, all us going to be laughing, smiling. We could be jamming Guardian Rail today 96.9 FM with Gabby Kyle and of course you know I'm Garth Bernard, Rose Barrow, just having a great conversation. Folks, today is nomination day. You got to tell me your experience, man. Someone says Elizabeth, they mashed it up. They said Michael Pintard over there in Marco City mashed it up. What's happening in your neck of the woods? What was the performance? How did your candidate look? Give us a call when we get back. Got in with it today right here [00:36:30] Speaker E: live in a few minutes. [00:36:54] Speaker X: Five years of PLP rule. Are you better off today while you work? They've spent millions on taxpayer funded trips, a government funded luxury car and handed out hundreds of millions in no bid contracts. 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See how we're advancing the future of heart care at Cleveland Clinic today. [00:38:17] Speaker F: Always on the go. Miss the show. You can now listen to Guardian Radio [00:38:21] Speaker U: talk shows anytime, anywhere on Spotify and [00:38:25] Speaker F: YouTube by searching Guardian Radio 96.9 FM or by entering the name of your favorite show. [00:38:31] Speaker U: You can also listen by logging on [00:38:33] Speaker J: to guardiantalkradio.com and clicking on the podcast tab. [00:38:37] Speaker U: Guardian Radio continuing to provide you with fresh news and smart talk anywhere, anytime, all day. [00:38:45] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all Day. [00:39:07] Speaker E: And we are back. [00:39:08] Speaker F: I'm telling you, the tensions are increasing [00:39:10] Speaker E: as we go into general election. [00:39:12] Speaker F: I my best just to keep a stable head. [00:39:15] Speaker E: I'm trying to keep the ship balanced as we move forward. It is my every intention to allow you, the listeners, the respect to choose wisely and to choose with your God. [00:39:28] Speaker F: You continue to throw mud. [00:39:30] Speaker E: You continue to try to get into other people's head as if you are a psychiatrist or a psychologist. I don't know why you waste your time doing such. People have already made up their minds. [00:39:45] Speaker F: Your mind is made up. [00:39:46] Speaker E: You need to go there, dip your [00:39:48] Speaker F: finger in the ink, cast your vote, go home. If you don't want to go home, go to the party headquarters of choice, join in the celebration or join in the funeral service. That simple. [00:40:03] Speaker U: You see where the chicken you was bragging about you didn't invite me either. You could at least say, hey, Gabby, I'm at so and so Uncle Michael Road and I know you like to [00:40:13] Speaker T: eat [00:40:16] Speaker U: because, you know, no bed on it. You know, I could show up. [00:40:19] Speaker E: Listen to God again. [00:40:20] Speaker F: God ain't gonna never invite you to Nobody headquarters. [00:40:23] Speaker U: Why not? [00:40:23] Speaker F: Because you ain't need to know where he is. I everywhere, but you'll never know where I am. Yawning and do that to me, but calling your line with the line. [00:40:31] Speaker E: Let's go. [00:40:32] Speaker Q: Hello? [00:40:32] Speaker F: Hey, man, what's going on? [00:40:34] Speaker W: All right, I heard you said just now. Kyle just said just now about the crowd at the rally in Carmichael Road. [00:40:41] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:40:41] Speaker F: How many people was there? [00:40:43] Speaker W: About 3,000. [00:40:45] Speaker F: I was there 3,000. Okay. No, no, no. [00:40:48] Speaker W: I just saying, listen, that's why I was going seven. So about 150 people was there. [00:40:55] Speaker H: Not no 3,000. [00:40:56] Speaker W: I sit in the car until 7:30, 7:15. [00:41:00] Speaker Q: No, no. [00:41:00] Speaker W: And I go on the other day, every time I look around, I can't even move. [00:41:03] Speaker E: Okay, so let me ask you this. Two things I'm gonna ask you. Number one, you got there early and you said there was about some 3,000 people there. [00:41:11] Speaker F: I didn't say that. [00:41:12] Speaker U: It was 150. [00:41:13] Speaker F: He said 150 when he arrived. But he said there was some 3,000 people there. That's what he said. I didn't hear correctly. You said 3,000. [00:41:19] Speaker H: 3,000. [00:41:20] Speaker W: About 3,000 people. [00:41:21] Speaker F: That's what you said. That's what I just said. [00:41:23] Speaker W: Yeah, but you saying at the beginning. [00:41:25] Speaker F: No, no, no. I said you said 150 at the beginning. But you said the number was 3,000. Okay, that's what I said. Now I'm asking you A question, okay. As you attended this rally, and there's no right or wrong answer, by the way. [00:41:38] Speaker E: It's only your opinion. [00:41:39] Speaker F: How do you grade that rally? [00:41:42] Speaker W: It's a regular weekday rally. You can't compare a weekday rally. [00:41:46] Speaker F: No, but I ask you that when I ask you to grade the rally, the performance of the rally. That's all I said. You give it a 10, and you have a right to say that. That's all I'm saying. I am done with my conversation. I have to let you say what you got to say. That's all. I ain't fighting you. Okay, if you say it's a 10. Okay, go ahead. [00:42:04] Speaker W: We don't even have a representative. [00:42:06] Speaker F: Who. [00:42:07] Speaker W: I live in tall blanks. Who's the representative? I never see the man in my life. [00:42:13] Speaker F: Okay, so who's your vote going to [00:42:16] Speaker H: in tall blanks on the ground every day? [00:42:18] Speaker W: Oh, he didn't go into Dr. Davo. [00:42:20] Speaker F: Okay, so who are you going to give it to? So I would say then, based on [00:42:24] Speaker W: the big time, but everybody dropping out. One. One. [00:42:29] Speaker F: Okay, so what I'm saying to you [00:42:30] Speaker E: again is that right now you're an FM supporter. [00:42:33] Speaker F: Yes. And there's nothing wrong with that, being up here to fight. You know what I don't understand? Why y' all come on this radio with me and y' all want to fight like y' all want me fight. I ain't gonna fight you. If you believe you is Jesus, I can tell you go heal some people. I 57. I got no time to fight you. I got to go bless some people. I got to go bless some people, and then I can die. That's what he's saying. And y' all keep on fighting me like, oh, God, what you thinking? What you're thinking, God, what you is? Tell us who you is. I told you who I am. I am Garth Maynard Rosebarrow. And when the time is right, I will tell you publicly. Since you all know so bad what I am or which way I go vote. You got a problem with that? [00:43:11] Speaker W: I wouldn't even ask my children where [00:43:13] Speaker F: they gonna vote, and that's fine. But I'll tell them, since I own a public microphone, I might as well tell you. And I'll tell you why, too. And I could back up my. My statement the same way you did. Because just as you believe the F and M and you have, everybody have the right to choose what you choose. [00:43:27] Speaker W: You have the right 100%. [00:43:28] Speaker F: The right without people cussing and swearing. [00:43:30] Speaker W: Even at my age, I wouldn't vote for me if I was running because I don't believe in. I believe the Bahamas is a young growing country. [00:43:36] Speaker J: We need a young growing leader. [00:43:38] Speaker W: We don't need. No, you can't get. If you get a yard of old garment, you can't get new. You can't get a new garment or the old gar. Old material. [00:43:49] Speaker F: Oh, so let me ask you a [00:43:50] Speaker E: question then, because you seem as if you're a scholar. [00:43:52] Speaker F: Let me ask you a question. Are you now presently an employer? [00:43:58] Speaker W: I am presently retired. [00:43:59] Speaker E: Okay, you're retired. [00:44:01] Speaker F: Have you ever employed young people? [00:44:03] Speaker W: Yes. [00:44:03] Speaker F: Okay, what type of work? [00:44:05] Speaker W: I am in the hotel. [00:44:07] Speaker F: Okay, Okay. I ain't talking about no smiling, showing your teeth, getting $2. Have you ever experienced working in something like construction? [00:44:15] Speaker W: I try to, you know, and they keep turning me around. When I first was a young fellow, when they come to school, he turned me around. But I spent 47 years in the hotel business. [00:44:26] Speaker F: Yeah, that's a different type of industry. I told me some hard back breaking [00:44:29] Speaker E: industry right now in the Bahamas. [00:44:30] Speaker W: You don't, you don't think being a [00:44:32] Speaker D: chef is a hard. [00:44:35] Speaker F: Not everybody could cook. We didn't know that. [00:44:36] Speaker E: But are you talking about. [00:44:40] Speaker F: So have you found then in the kitchen that you found tenacity, you found consistency? You found in the kitchen where young people can come behind you and now work for 20, 30 years on the job. [00:44:52] Speaker W: You know what I did? I just asked him the experience I had, bad experience. I had that people are running me out because they didn't want to train me. [00:45:00] Speaker V: When I started. [00:45:01] Speaker W: The first day I go on in the kitchen, the first area I supposed to work in, I went in the pastry area. My boss sent me to the man who charged the base job. He told me, buddy, let me tell you something, you know, you ain't coming in here to take my job. Little 17 year old like. And he run me out there. I run out there anyhow. And I said to myself that day, if I. Not if. When I become a supervisor, I'll never treat young people like that. I always take care of the young people. [00:45:27] Speaker E: Well, I can invite you to talk to some contractors about our young people and working on the job, because [00:45:35] Speaker F: I want you to try it. I just want you to try and [00:45:37] Speaker E: do what I say and then come back to me, we can have this conversation again. Okay? [00:45:41] Speaker F: I'm just talking from my experience of what I know to be. [00:45:43] Speaker W: So I used to do construction in the summer. [00:45:46] Speaker F: Yeah, but I talk about consistent construction. When you find a labor force that's Young bohemian people to stay on the [00:45:51] Speaker E: job for 20 years doing construction. [00:45:53] Speaker F: That's what I want you. That's the test I want to give you. [00:45:55] Speaker W: And then they got. [00:45:57] Speaker F: Let me help you out before I let you go. [00:45:59] Speaker J: All right? [00:46:00] Speaker F: You pick them up and they tell you give them a slow 5 or slow 20 and you don't see them no more. [00:46:05] Speaker W: I know some people like that, but [00:46:06] Speaker F: that's what I trying to tell you. So when you want to hand things over to younger people, you got to make sure you train them and mentor them well. That's all I'm trying to tell you. Because those people are extremely difficult to train. [00:46:17] Speaker W: Young people you know very well, work well. [00:46:22] Speaker F: I was a young person and ain't nobody gave me no chance for guess what? They still doing pretty good, eh? [00:46:25] Speaker W: But you know, you know what happened? I think it's us, the parents. He is the one who had trained these children. [00:46:30] Speaker E: I agree, I agree. [00:46:34] Speaker W: 20 look for job. [00:46:36] Speaker E: And you're right. [00:46:37] Speaker F: But anyhow, you said 3,000 was at the park. If someone else disagrees, they'll give us [00:46:41] Speaker E: a call and let us know. [00:46:42] Speaker F: If they agree, they'll call and let us know. [00:46:44] Speaker E: Thanks for your call. [00:46:44] Speaker F: Let me take another caller. [00:46:45] Speaker E: Next caller, call of your life. [00:46:49] Speaker P: Yeah, I was one of those persons who went to both rallies. I ended up at the F and M's rally because it was actually on my way home. [00:47:02] Speaker E: Okay. [00:47:03] Speaker P: And what I end up doing, I end up, you know, parking on the side of the road. And just, just was out of interest. I just wanted to hear what was going on. And I think I was like a little after 10. [00:47:15] Speaker E: Okay. [00:47:17] Speaker P: I don't know. That caller just now talking about 3,000 people were there. They were in. The majority of people were in one little section where there were chairs. And if I'm estimating right, because they weren't. There was a lot of space in the park that cars were parked and other things, and there was open spaces. And I trying to figure out where he coming from with this number for 3,000. [00:47:44] Speaker E: So give me your number. What's your number? [00:47:46] Speaker F: Yeah, they probably. [00:47:47] Speaker P: They probably had maybe a good. Maybe a good 1500, 1800. [00:47:53] Speaker F: So someone says, and I'm I'm only. [00:47:56] Speaker P: I'm only guesstimating on that. But it wasn't that much to the point where you couldn't move around freely, but it wasn't stopping traffic or nothing. You were able to park on the side of the road certain places and move through. But to say 3,000 persons, I don't [00:48:14] Speaker F: Know where he did. [00:48:15] Speaker P: But he surely wasn't at the same thing that I was at. [00:48:19] Speaker E: But I appreciate your call, my friend. Let me take another call. [00:48:21] Speaker F: We got five minutes to go. [00:48:23] Speaker E: Next call on the line. [00:48:26] Speaker F: Hello. Good day. [00:48:27] Speaker E: Hey, good day. [00:48:28] Speaker G: Good day. [00:48:29] Speaker F: Gabby. [00:48:30] Speaker U: Hi. Good afternoon. [00:48:31] Speaker F: How are you doing, darling? [00:48:32] Speaker U: I'm okay. I'm just a little bit of exhausted of the day trying to count people at rallies instead of the issue of the day. [00:48:42] Speaker N: Nomination day. [00:48:43] Speaker U: Yeah. [00:48:44] Speaker F: Gabby, the challenge to the nomination of Sabbath and for Charlotte and Chihuahua line covered the constitutional point of section 48, section 1G. How do you feel about that? [00:49:06] Speaker U: How do I feel about it? I didn't get a chance to listen to Chivago's show today. I usually tune in but I didn't get a chance to listen. [00:49:16] Speaker R: What. [00:49:16] Speaker U: What was his points so that I can. [00:49:19] Speaker D: The COI candidate challenged his nomination because [00:49:22] Speaker F: he hasn't gazetted any concerns office and having it gazetted 30 days out. I think you paid attention to it too. Right. And Mr. Carl Dean, can your comment on your position with that we'll probably [00:49:40] Speaker E: listen to the break. We got one more caller to go and then we have to go to news. But we did hear your question and we will attempt to address that after the news. Next call on the line, please. You're live. [00:49:50] Speaker F: Hey, good afternoon. [00:49:51] Speaker O: Guard. Hey, I'm Garby. Hi, good afternoon, gentlemen. And I think somebody else there, Mr. Dan. [00:49:58] Speaker E: Yes. [00:49:59] Speaker H: Yes. [00:49:59] Speaker F: Yeah. [00:50:00] Speaker O: Good afternoon. All you got. [00:50:02] Speaker Q: Yeah. [00:50:02] Speaker O: I don't know why we are here trying to find out about crowds, Right? Because that history proved us what crowds do, right. Election over the years was a party for the PLP and the FM supporter. I used to be an AFLM supporter. So I know, right. When you go to the Israelis, right. Most more than 60 to 75% of the persons attending these rallies don't go there to hear anything what was said on the, on the, on the. On the podium, right. They go there for partying and frolicking, right. So we had, we had. Over the years we had, we had, we had the PLP would filled out Clifford park. [00:50:48] Speaker F: Right. [00:50:49] Speaker O: The entire park and area. And lost the election. [00:50:52] Speaker Q: Right. [00:50:53] Speaker O: We had the election where the Free National Movement had. With the place name Montague and lost that election. [00:51:03] Speaker U: Yep. [00:51:04] Speaker O: And still lost the election. [00:51:06] Speaker U: That is why I don't want to talk about crowds. [00:51:08] Speaker W: Right. [00:51:08] Speaker O: So for us to be taking all of this time trying to figure out if there was two people or three people, it didn't really make no sense. Because at the end of the day, for instance when they go to the whole assembly, I mean, sorry, when they go to the place to vote, they didn't know who they going to vote for. We don't have enough social events going on in this country for Bateman. So a lot of Batemans use these rallies like they've been doing all the years for social events. But that don't mean that because you have a large crowd, mean that you are guarantee or support guys. [00:51:43] Speaker P: Have a nice day. [00:51:44] Speaker E: I appreciate that. [00:51:45] Speaker U: Thank you so much, Carla, for that. [00:51:46] Speaker E: Before we go to the news, I'm just going to say this to everyone. I notice that we try to negate situations that are just visible to all of us. Media has a strong place in politics. There are some people who do not. [00:52:00] Speaker F: There are some people who believe that [00:52:01] Speaker E: the crowd is extremely important in politics and there are others who simply negate that and say it doesn't matter. When it comes to the science of politics, especially in the Bahamas, it is [00:52:14] Speaker F: something that has not yet fully been [00:52:17] Speaker E: defined as to what the winning formula [00:52:20] Speaker F: truly is in terms of where we [00:52:23] Speaker E: are now, being a Christian nation that we say that we are. It was a crowd who said, give us Barabbas. [00:52:32] Speaker F: It had nothing to do with what [00:52:35] Speaker E: Jesus did in his lifetime, the miracles [00:52:38] Speaker F: that he performed, the love that he spent. It had everything to do with the crowd. So when you tell me the crowd ain't important, I gotta fight you on that. But on the other side of the news, we're gonna try to make sense of the crowd, the policies, the plans, the future. [00:52:57] Speaker E: This is God and weary. Today we go to news and we'll be right back. [00:53:14] Speaker C: Together until the 12th of never [00:53:22] Speaker F: we all. [00:53:28] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. 96.9 FM. [00:54:00] Speaker E: And we are back. Thank you for tuning in to Guardian Radio News. We do try to keep you informed and we do appreciate you, the listeners, for your intelligence and your contributions. And of course, it is your opinion said that and stated that time and time again. And we all would like to believe that whatever we have to say is factual. But this I do know. On the month of May, the date the 12th, by that night, I want you to know something. The results will not be an opinion. [00:54:40] Speaker F: The results will not be an opinion. It will be factual. It will be recorded. It will actually, for the entire universe as to who the winner is. Now, some of you people, you like to ridicule me and say, oh God, you ran before, you ain't got no votes. [00:54:57] Speaker E: Okay, I got it. [00:54:58] Speaker F: You can keep on repeating that story all you want, but I did participate [00:55:03] Speaker E: in the front line, whereas you may never have ever considered going on the front line. [00:55:10] Speaker F: Maybe you're a coward or maybe you just don't have the testicular fortitude to do so. I don't know. I'm not judging you. I'm just simply saying that we each have a path to follow. I followed my path. And at the end of the day when you ask the question, how is it that he has successfully placed himself where he is is because of the past that I chose. You have a path that you will choose. You may not want to go into politics. You may want to go into the church. You may want to be a part of a lodge. I don't know what you want to do. It's up to you. It's your life. God has given you the breath. [00:55:50] Speaker E: Use it wisely. [00:55:52] Speaker F: God has given you birth in this beautiful country called the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. All I can say to you is vote wisely. And at the end of the day, it is this the Bahama land that we dwell in. It is this Bahama land that you and I, collectively, when we vote, can choose to make our country better based on policies, based on legislations, based on understandings and comprehensions. It cannot just simply be that my ma. My PA was. It cannot simply be. I have to vote this way because this is how I feel emotionally. You have to take the time, analyze and break down the situation as to what is in the best interest of you, your family, your community, your island. We have said this time and time again, when you look at the word performance, and I always drive this home to you, performance. Look at the performance of individuals, look at the performance of parties, look at the performance of their leadership. And many of us may find ourselves hypocritical and liars, bearing false witness, breaking and mashing up the commandments of God. Because we know the person that we love so much ain't worth 2 cent. We don't even use pennies no more. But just because they wearing the color that you like, you figure you know what? They are the best choice for the nation. And God forbid, God forbid, we sick and tired of people like you. You come on the radio and you harass other people, you insult other people because you believe in a color and you don't believe in a standard. Where is your standard, man? I always say to you, look at the performance of the individual and make your decision. Two years ago, there were complaints upon complaints. I myself was complaining about absentism. I've complained about people who are non effective and lackluster. Yes, we did. Since then we've seen people pull up their socks, pull up their pants, straightened and went to work. If you are one of those people who were so satisfied knowing that we had all these complaints and as soon as we saw improvement, you still had to try your best to find a complaint. I have to ask you the question today. When are you going to contribute something positive to this discussion and to help build this nation? Call it you live. Let's go. [00:58:15] Speaker Q: Hey, God. [00:58:16] Speaker F: Hey, buddy. [00:58:16] Speaker Q: Good afternoon to you and your guest. [00:58:18] Speaker E: Hey, buddy. [00:58:20] Speaker Q: You know, in some cases I love the crowd. But when we do not market our strategy of what we're going to say on these rally, this is where the problem. When Selena Dam had their rally and stuff back then, it was like a mushroom spread out. Because he always say, come hear the bombshell that was going to come. People used to get ready early just to go to sea and to hear why we are still talking the same thing about the VAT and about the high court of food when they was in. What's the same thing to what people complaining about and the high cost of food. Find something new to say, how you gonna fix it? How you gonna fix this food? This is what the people come to hear. How you gonna fix it? And when people started hearing these things, then you will start your crowd, begin to build up and stuff like that. But hearing the same thing. And my last point, you know what a nerd me when I hear people always say the Lord tell them this. Lord tell them this party gonna win. The FM gonna win or the PLP gonna win or the COI gonna win. Okay, what about when your party who you say your God tell you gonna win, don't win. Will you accept the other party that win and don't say they cheat? We are. This is the only place in the world I think we always. It's good. It's good to say talk about God, but don't lie on God. Say God say. Because the time will come, next month will come and every eye will see who will win the general election. [01:00:30] Speaker E: That is a fact. [01:00:31] Speaker Q: Thank you. [01:00:33] Speaker E: That is a fact. Let me take another caller. Go ahead, caller. [01:00:35] Speaker J: Hey, girl, how you doing? [01:00:37] Speaker E: Doing good. Got Kylan, Kyle and Gabby in the studio. [01:00:40] Speaker F: Oh, my Lord pray for you. [01:00:43] Speaker Q: Okay. [01:00:43] Speaker E: Oh, you pray for me, for Kyle or for Gabby? [01:00:46] Speaker V: Gabby. [01:00:47] Speaker F: So what you got with Gabby? She rough, boy. Oh, she rough. [01:00:51] Speaker O: She rough, but she don't play. [01:00:52] Speaker Q: But she's serious. [01:00:54] Speaker J: Anyway, this is a hypothetical question that probably, you know, you know, you know, you know, it's like, it's like right up. It's like, it's. [01:01:04] Speaker F: It's like right up a driveway. Right. [01:01:06] Speaker E: Okay, give me the hypothesis. Let's hear it. [01:01:08] Speaker J: Okay, suppose on May 12th. [01:01:11] Speaker F: Right. [01:01:11] Speaker E: Okay. [01:01:12] Speaker J: We find out that we had 99.9%, you know, 99.9. [01:01:21] Speaker F: 99.9. 99. [01:01:23] Speaker J: 9. Like bullet journal. [01:01:26] Speaker N: Right. [01:01:27] Speaker J: And putting that in. Into the context of what we see [01:01:32] Speaker Q: is going on in terms of the. [01:01:35] Speaker J: All the waters, all these extra cards showing up. [01:01:40] Speaker Q: Right. [01:01:42] Speaker F: Do you think the. [01:01:47] Speaker J: How long you think it'll take for our results to be official after May 12? [01:01:56] Speaker E: I. I like you, though. I like you. Yeah, we're just gonna laugh. I appreciate your call, man. Let me take another caller. [01:02:03] Speaker F: Next. [01:02:04] Speaker E: Call your life. Call your life. Okay, I guess we lost that caller. You know what is interesting to me, we've come through a series of believing that the election date, the reset button. [01:02:25] Speaker F: I want to know from you in [01:02:28] Speaker E: terms of preparation for this moment, as we saw the crowds of people out there on the streets today, does this give you the feelings that the voter turnout is going to be higher than expected? Is it going to remain the same? [01:02:42] Speaker F: What did you truly experience today? I'm trying to figure this out because [01:02:46] Speaker E: I sensed as I traveled this morning [01:02:49] Speaker F: that there was an exuberance on the streets of New Providence that I have [01:02:52] Speaker E: not yet witnessed since 2021. Call of your life. [01:02:57] Speaker J: Good afternoon to everyone in the studio and those who are with you in the spirit. [01:03:02] Speaker E: Thank you, my friend. [01:03:03] Speaker J: Good job. Now I can give you one or two reasons why I don't follow the crowd. [01:03:08] Speaker F: Okay, let's go. [01:03:10] Speaker J: Genesis 1:3. God said, Let there be light. And there was light. Even though sound cannot travel in a vacuum, where God was, he was able to speak in a vacuum. [01:03:21] Speaker W: I can't do that. [01:03:23] Speaker J: All right? So I. I'm sure stuck on the fact that he must have had a crowd of death to talk to. Follow me with that. [01:03:31] Speaker E: Go ahead, Mr. Theodore. [01:03:32] Speaker J: Psalms 139 and 7, 10. It says, Where I can go from you, your spirit, wherever I go, you're present, which means God is omnipresent. Follow that. Genesis 20:21. We have the Lord said, the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great, and their sin is grievous. So cry is coming up to him. [01:03:54] Speaker F: Then he said, I will go down [01:03:56] Speaker J: and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry. Which means, see, I can't follow the crowd. [01:04:04] Speaker E: You can't follow the crowd? [01:04:05] Speaker J: No sir. [01:04:06] Speaker F: So who will you follow? [01:04:07] Speaker J: Omni President have to go and see that's a contradiction to me. [01:04:11] Speaker F: So who do you follow? [01:04:12] Speaker O: I follow my mom. [01:04:14] Speaker J: That's only one person I follow. [01:04:15] Speaker F: So. [01:04:16] Speaker E: So where does she go? [01:04:17] Speaker J: Well, she goes. She goes out in the evening and she comes back in the morning. [01:04:24] Speaker E: Well, I can't follow you today. [01:04:25] Speaker J: You better not try it either. [01:04:26] Speaker E: You lost me. Thank you for your call. Man, Gabby, this is election time. This is strangest election that I have ever witnessed in my 57 years. [01:04:39] Speaker F: You're telling me you see the crowd, but you're telling me you can't use [01:04:44] Speaker E: that as a litmus test for victory. [01:04:47] Speaker F: So let me ask you this then. I really trying to get to understand these people. What program is there to tell you who has the best program? What's the best policies? Who has the best plan for the future? Have I gotten that yet from any of these rallies? Because the nation is now celebrating something. I've seen young people more on one side than the other. Something has to be happening. No one seems to be able to [01:05:13] Speaker E: tell me what is going on. [01:05:15] Speaker F: Gabby says she tired of talking with crowd. Huh? She tired of talking about that. So what are we going to talk about in this election? What is going to be the magnet that's going to cause people to go out there and vote? The same discouragement that I'm seeing here today. The same silence that I'm seeing here today. I was telling you people I anticipate voter turnout. If you don't see that way, tell me different. [01:05:38] Speaker E: This Scott and Raider today 96.9 FM. [01:05:41] Speaker F: Take a break. We'll be right back. [01:06:05] Speaker X: Five years of pop rule. Are you better off today while you work? They've spent millions on taxpayer funded trips, a government funded luxury car and handed out hundreds of millions in no bid contracts. But for the rest of us, gas and groceries through the roof, vat on bread basket items, healthcare that is broken, unaffordable and out of reach. And it's not just your wallet. For five years, illegal immigrants have flooded our communities, putting excessive pressure on our schools, our housing and our social services. As they flood in, Bahamian families fall behind under the F and M. There will be a change. The F and M has a plan to address the rising cost of living, secure our borders, protect Bahamians from illegal immigrants and fix our health care. Because the F and M knows for you and not the few. This message was paid for and authorized by the Free National Girl Junior Just [01:07:03] Speaker L: show me Bella boy in his phone. [01:07:05] Speaker M: What you mean? He take picture of that good for nothing boy. [01:07:07] Speaker C: Shh. [01:07:08] Speaker L: You don't want butler hair. You say that. You know she always say that's my good child. [01:07:12] Speaker M: So what are you doing in junior phone? [01:07:13] Speaker L: Oh he there cause the police looking for him. He on that wanted list. [01:07:17] Speaker M: Wanted persons in your phone now. [01:07:18] Speaker L: Yes child. And when police won't find anybody. [01:07:21] Speaker R: Quick, quick. [01:07:21] Speaker L: After something happened they can send pictures direct to your phone. Go to Google play or app store and search for crackwear in Bahamas. Then pick install and we'll go straight to your phone. [01:07:30] Speaker M: There is also a section on missing persons. [01:07:33] Speaker L: Yes girl. Everybody needs to get this app so police can tell us right away when these people go missing. Just like an alert system. Yes. [01:07:39] Speaker M: It has numbers for crime stoppers Bahamas so you can call and nobody knows you. Call directly to Miami and give the information without giving your name or anything about you. I tried the other day and when I hear junior and his boys talking about really high those guns, I walk quick, quick round the corner and call that number. [01:07:56] Speaker F: Call 328-8477 from Nassau or 242-300-8477 from the family Islands. [01:08:04] Speaker B: Love the show. Want to give your support. Become a sponsor today. Call 302-2300 for our rates and packages. That's 302-2300. Become a sponsor on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Fresh all day. [01:08:23] Speaker X: Five years of pop rule. Are you better off today while you work? They've spent millions on taxpayer funded trips, a government funded luxury car and handed out hundreds of millions in no bid contracts. But for the rest of us, gas and groceries through the roof, vat on bread basket items, healthcare that is broken, unaffordable and out of reach. And it's not just your wallet. For five years illegal immigrants have flooded our communities, putting excessive pressure on our schools, our house, social services. As they flood in, Bahamian families fall behind under the F and M. There will be a change. The F and M has a plan to address the rising cost of living, secure our borders, protect Bahamians from the illegal immigrants and fix our health care. Because the F and M knows our job is to work for you and not the few. This message was paid for and authorized by the Free National Movement. [01:09:21] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all day. [01:09:36] Speaker J: Well, [01:09:39] Speaker C: we all will live forever. [01:09:43] Speaker E: And we are back. This is Guardian Radio today 96.9 FM. I'm your host today, G Roseborough and we have in Studio today. Kyle Dean sitting to my right. And of course we have Gabby McKenzie Eneas. She's back with us again today. And you know, I, I appreciate the, the energy coming from Gabby. You know, she's always with me. She, she's seen in, in different places. [01:10:06] Speaker U: When you say I don't love you, [01:10:07] Speaker E: you on this, I say I watching you, but I say I love your energy. [01:10:10] Speaker U: I don't love you. Even you, you, you just what, you just tell the people. Chris, roll back the tapes, please. [01:10:16] Speaker F: Yeah, but, but, but, but, you know, I ain't getting that, that sweetness, she coming here with the shades on. She been on two trip, ain't bringing [01:10:22] Speaker E: back nothing because I ain't giving no fish. [01:10:23] Speaker F: I mean, we ain't living like that guy. I mean, no tit for tat thing, that's petty polit. So listen, man, we are talking here [01:10:31] Speaker E: about crowds and rallies and numbers and [01:10:33] Speaker F: of course no one truly believes the [01:10:35] Speaker E: crowd is going to be that detail that's going to say who's going to be victorious. So we have already erased that whole idea, right? [01:10:44] Speaker F: So now we're wondering now what type of voter turnout we can have. Now, based on our conversation, it almost [01:10:51] Speaker E: seems as if we have peaked for [01:10:53] Speaker F: just the moment and we're gonna return back to the flat reality that what [01:10:59] Speaker E: is it really about politics that drives us so crazy? You're not talking to your husband, you're not talking to your wife, not talking to your brother, not talking to your sister. [01:11:07] Speaker F: Everybody got to make everybody what they [01:11:09] Speaker E: think they should be. And as I now see it, I [01:11:13] Speaker F: have spoken to so many people, told [01:11:14] Speaker E: me they simply just don't want to vote in this upcoming election. [01:11:18] Speaker U: And God, that is the thing, right? As you, me and Kyle were just discussing over the break, we could possibly see lower voter turnouts just because the register was not purged. It didn't die. I believe that the Progressive Liberal Party in coming to office post Covid, should have returned back to purging the register, killing out the register after each general, therefore resulting in persons having to register. You have the five year window or four year window before the election is called to register for the new election. So here we have in 2017, if we follow the trend. So that register would have been open from the election prior to that, prior to 2017. So we're literally carrying a register that was open from 2012 post 2012 election, if you realizing it. So when people say, oh, there are 200,000 people registered, we're carrying the people who were excited, eager People wanted to vote in that 2017 election. We're carrying them. They didn't have the same confidence, eagerness to vote in 2021. So they didn't show up to the polls if they had to. And obviously because of COVID the register was made permanent. That was understood. I don't feel, however, that this register that we're now carrying, basically from 2012, post 2012 election, should still be the register we're carrying to 26. So we're depending on parliamentary officials, which is humans, to go through this and see and cipher who's died, who's transferred people between 2012 and 2026. You know how much apartment some people have lived in and moved and life altering, and they're not going every second. Oh, I was living here this year. I got to go transfer this year. This year. The purging of the register did that effortlessly. So we were able to anecdotally and positively confirm that we had high voter turnouts because the people that wanted to vote, mind you, that doesn't necessarily mean there were other people not eligible who were 18 Bahamians. They could have. They were. They just did not register because they already decided they wasn't interested. So now, because we have the uninterested still a part of this register and the interested, it will always appear if we continue to keep the register like this, or it will appear that our voter turnouts are slightly lower than what we're used to, especially if it's lower than 90%. [01:14:14] Speaker E: Okay, let's take a caller. Caller, you're on the line. Thank you, Gabby. Go ahead, caller. [01:14:20] Speaker R: Hi, how are you doing? [01:14:21] Speaker E: Well, we're doing pretty good right here. [01:14:23] Speaker R: Great. I have two statements to me. [01:14:26] Speaker E: Sounds good. [01:14:27] Speaker R: Because I'm still trying to decide. [01:14:28] Speaker E: Okay. [01:14:29] Speaker R: On how to vote. I haven't totally made up my mind yet. I heard you said earlier that you mentioned something about persons coming late and getting their act together, and so you should forgive them, work with them where they are. Am I correct? [01:14:44] Speaker F: Yeah. [01:14:45] Speaker E: You still can give those people an opportunity based on what they bring to the table. [01:14:48] Speaker R: Make sure I got you correct. Yes, I could appreciate that. I also, and I think I'm not sure that you're speaking possibly with the PLP when you say that. My thing about it is, like I said, I understand that. I can get that. I'm also looking at the F and M aspect of it. I love their launch. However, when Mr. Pintard started speaking about giving single mothers $200, I got turned off. He came back, however, and he Seemed to make some adjustments to that statement. And that got me interested again because I'm like, okay, he's listening to the people. And as a result of listening to the people, he's making adjustments to the. It perked my interest again. Again, I'm not certain because then he went to national, I think national Lottery and I'm not one to gambling. I hate it. I totally hate it. And so I'm disinterested again. And so those are some of the things that are for me, having me like back and forth. I'm listening to what the parties are saying. I'm listening to how they're moving forward, how they're listening to us as the persons who are going to employ them. And what are you going to do when we say we have an issue which you're doing? Are you going to consider what we're saying? You're going to bring us facts to fix it? What exactly? What can we really. We want to. We want to hire you. Give us a leg to stand on. That's my position. [01:16:09] Speaker E: Can I ask you this then? And it seems if you're attempting to be a very fair person, are you looking for a perfect scenario or are you willing? [01:16:17] Speaker R: That's why I say give me. If you can make a decision, at least give us some background information as to why you're coming up with your solution. What are you doing? Don't just make decisions. For example, the prime minister was the only person knew that when election would be called. I figured that was a bit harsh in that there are persons, I think, especially in the media, who is looking at taking vacation. They can't take vacation because, hey, everything their job is like, this is a big thing for them. So when you're going to do something like that, just enough to say, well, okay, it's possibly going to be in me. Things may have to change, whatever the case may be looking at tentatively in me. But my thing is offer us more communication, work with us. And that's why we have MPs. How do you get to us? When you get to Parliament, you know what your constituency is thinking, you know what the people on the ground are thinking, so that when you do get there, everybody's not going to have what they want. But at least you can justify why you're doing the things that you're doing. [01:17:15] Speaker E: That may be honorable and I thank you for your call. That may be honorable, but of course, you know, we're not talking about church, the ecclesia. We're talking about politics. We're talking About a game that is not always fair. And each entity, once they have the throne or they have the chair, they seek an advantage to win. And for those people who don't fully understand politics, the whole ingredient here that is necessary is the element of surprise. By the element of surprise, you could possibly be victorious. But of course, as we had an election that was. What do we call that again now with minutes? Snap. Snap. [01:17:57] Speaker H: That was snap. [01:17:57] Speaker F: Yeah, snap. [01:17:59] Speaker E: When we have a snap election, which was a surprise to everybody, it doesn't always work out. I'm just making it plain to you. [01:18:06] Speaker F: But the fact that you're going back [01:18:08] Speaker E: and forth, it is also possible that in your going back and forth, you may decide, you know what? To hell with it. I may not vote at all. And this is where many people are finding themselves in this upcoming general election. The back and forth as to why they should or should not vote. They continuously being beaten with the proverbial stick of immigration issues and other crisis issues and unemployment and being beaten with the stick of, you know, rise in fuel prices. [01:18:36] Speaker F: And all these things are just continuously [01:18:39] Speaker E: just beating on the minds of being able to hell with it. I don't think I'm going to participate in this one. That's what we're hearing and politicians now [01:18:46] Speaker F: you're out there trying to get the [01:18:48] Speaker E: people to go to the polls and vote for you. [01:18:51] Speaker F: You have to find that one ingredient that's now going to encourage people to say, you know what? [01:18:57] Speaker E: I'm going to give you an opportunity. [01:18:59] Speaker F: If you cannot find that miracle stick, [01:19:03] Speaker E: my friend, more than likely you're looking at a loss. Next call on the line. [01:19:11] Speaker I: A pleas. Good afternoon to G. And what is 2D and a ca okay, Kyle, good afternoon. [01:19:19] Speaker G: Hey. [01:19:19] Speaker I: God, you're talking about the numbers games. [01:19:23] Speaker E: Well, that's politics, right? The numbers game. [01:19:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:26] Speaker E: Okay. [01:19:26] Speaker I: You know, numbers don't mean nothing to rally, you know, because when you look at it, let's take new problems, for instance, how many constituencies are there on this island? 20 something. [01:19:38] Speaker F: Well, if you've been saying that there [01:19:41] Speaker E: are the optics, right. And so it's only that 25 seats here in Nassau, 16 on the family [01:19:47] Speaker I: violence, 10% with the average voter population of, let's say, 5,000. So even if them go, you look at 500 people. So you're looking at 25 constituencies that are with numbers of, let's say, 4 or 5,000 dispersed throughout New province that don't mean nothing is. [01:20:08] Speaker E: Okay, so when you said doesn't mean anything, are you speaking to the PLP's rally or the Africans rally? [01:20:13] Speaker I: I'm talking to any rallies. [01:20:14] Speaker F: Okay, so how many people you figure [01:20:16] Speaker E: watch these rallies and they make a decision where the support is? [01:20:19] Speaker F: People listen. [01:20:20] Speaker I: Most people, intelligent people, their minds. [01:20:23] Speaker F: How many people you figure intelligent in [01:20:25] Speaker I: the Bahamas before election time? [01:20:27] Speaker F: All of these. How many. What is the percentage of intelligent voters [01:20:31] Speaker E: we have in the Bahamas? [01:20:32] Speaker I: They got to take that money, come give it to me. [01:20:35] Speaker E: See, you're going to the other side. That's what I trying to tell you. [01:20:37] Speaker I: You know, but they can't. They don't influence me. I mean, I. I mean, I. Come with me and I think. [01:20:46] Speaker F: I mean, what influences you all over the poll? What, these big pictures. You ain't listening to me. I asked you what influences you. [01:20:56] Speaker I: What influence me? Yeah, what you say that you're going to do? [01:21:01] Speaker W: Your. [01:21:01] Speaker I: What you said you're going to do and you didn't. [01:21:05] Speaker F: So in order for them to say that to you, is that said at a rally? Is that said at a rally or is that said at your front door? What you mean that's the purpose of a rally? [01:21:14] Speaker I: That is said from the speech from the throne, from your manifesto. [01:21:18] Speaker F: That's the prime minister I want to talk about. I want to talk with your representative. When will you hear from your representative? Because the purpose of the rally is to give the representative an opportunity to stand before the community and say what they got to say. [01:21:32] Speaker I: No, listen, listen. I don't listen. I don't listen to no Riley, because you. [01:21:38] Speaker E: Okay, then. [01:21:39] Speaker F: Well, I appreciate your call, but that's the purpose of the rally. If you even listen to them while they rallying, you definitely can listen to [01:21:44] Speaker E: them in the voters poll. [01:21:45] Speaker F: Let me take another caller. [01:21:46] Speaker E: Next caller. [01:21:47] Speaker P: Hey, guys, are you good? [01:21:49] Speaker E: My friend, real quick. [01:21:51] Speaker P: I keep hearing the commercial that comes on that says, are you better off [01:21:55] Speaker E: five years [01:21:58] Speaker P: after five years? And I think that in marketing, positioning and everything is very important. [01:22:05] Speaker E: Yes, [01:22:07] Speaker P: every Bahamian is better off five years than they were five years ago. Let's go back five years and let's consider what we went through five years ago. And it had nothing predominantly to. [01:22:20] Speaker F: Only to do with politics, but it [01:22:24] Speaker P: had to do with world events. But what made it worse was the political entity at that time locking up people for going to get water, [01:22:39] Speaker F: wanting [01:22:40] Speaker P: to bathe, wanted to take care of [01:22:42] Speaker F: family members, all these other stuff, became [01:22:45] Speaker P: the king of the Bahamas. And what we fail to understand is that if you're saying if we are [01:22:54] Speaker I: better today than we were five years, [01:22:57] Speaker P: anyone, including myself and anyone in that [01:23:00] Speaker F: room should say yes, because what we went through. [01:23:05] Speaker P: And you know one thing I could tell you, that's why we're going to probably keep going through these cycles. Bahamian people got to show up to their memory. And I'm totally convinced of that. [01:23:20] Speaker F: We realized that the leader of the [01:23:22] Speaker P: opposition was not the leader and was a part of certain things. [01:23:27] Speaker J: But [01:23:29] Speaker P: we gotta understand branding is a very serious thing. And if you had persons that affected [01:23:35] Speaker F: your brand, [01:23:38] Speaker P: don't come and ask me if I'm better today than I was five years ago. Well, because every. Every behavior in the world, every behavior wants to be honest, could say it's better now than it was five years ago. Well, we got short term memory. [01:23:52] Speaker E: That is the opinion you're better off than you were five years ago. Someone else may differ. [01:23:56] Speaker F: Let me take another call out. [01:23:58] Speaker E: Next call on the line. Call your life. [01:24:03] Speaker F: Yeah, Gabby. [01:24:04] Speaker E: Gabby stepped out for a minute to get some fresh air. [01:24:08] Speaker F: Hey, you there alone? [01:24:09] Speaker E: I'm here with Kyle Dean. [01:24:11] Speaker F: Pardon me? [01:24:11] Speaker E: I'm here with Kyle Dean. [01:24:13] Speaker Q: Okay. [01:24:14] Speaker D: You and Kyle Dean. [01:24:16] Speaker F: The issue I brought up earlier when I called before the break with the challenge for Fort Charlotte, you know, so many. [01:24:24] Speaker E: Yeah, I want, I want, I want [01:24:25] Speaker F: to leave that alone for right now, man. [01:24:27] Speaker E: You're going into this legal thing. [01:24:28] Speaker F: But, but God. [01:24:29] Speaker E: Yeah, [01:24:32] Speaker F: the law states for the states. Chicago took it on. [01:24:36] Speaker D: Yeah, but that's the constitution. [01:24:38] Speaker F: But that's your Volvo. [01:24:39] Speaker E: I. Yeah, but I won't get into that right now. That's a full show. That's a full show. And I know people got their bias, people got their hatred. People have their likings. And in a situation like that, that's a never ending saga. I appreciate your call. [01:24:55] Speaker F: Let me take another call. [01:24:55] Speaker E: Next caller. [01:24:57] Speaker D: Hey, guys. [01:24:57] Speaker E: Hey. [01:24:58] Speaker F: I kind of agree. [01:25:00] Speaker I: I agree with the lady who called [01:25:01] Speaker J: previously and she laid out the thing. [01:25:04] Speaker Q: Right. [01:25:05] Speaker J: You know, I agree with her to the extent that publicly. [01:25:10] Speaker P: Right. [01:25:10] Speaker F: That you here for you. Of course. [01:25:13] Speaker J: Okay. [01:25:13] Speaker W: Of course you have you. [01:25:15] Speaker F: So of course she. [01:25:16] Speaker J: So she has a valid point in saying because you. [01:25:21] Speaker O: You. [01:25:21] Speaker J: You were like downplayed [01:25:25] Speaker F: you try. You trying to convince me you're not for you. [01:25:28] Speaker W: No, no, no, no, no. [01:25:29] Speaker F: You got to fix that what people do. Let me know what people do people want you to do for them. [01:25:37] Speaker R: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:25:38] Speaker F: But the minute you do for you, it's a problem. [01:25:40] Speaker J: No, see, I don't have a problem with that. You know, but her points were extremely. I mean, you know, well thought out. [01:25:48] Speaker F: Plus, plus valid. Give me the validation. Give me the validation. I'm trying to figure where you're coming from. [01:25:56] Speaker Q: Okay. [01:25:56] Speaker J: Then she said that, you know, what she expects, right, Is that she expects to be informed. She expects to know what is going on. [01:26:07] Speaker F: Okay. You know, do you believe that's ever [01:26:10] Speaker E: going to happen in government? [01:26:12] Speaker Q: Yeah. [01:26:13] Speaker F: Freedom of, freedom of information. Okay, but she, but she expects it. That's her ideal. But it just simply may not be realistic. [01:26:21] Speaker J: But, but I don't think it, it was your place to talk her down like that. [01:26:26] Speaker F: I never talked down to anybody. Listen to the, listen to. All right, let me, let me, let me do this. Let me cut you off because you, you trying to be ignorant on me today. [01:26:34] Speaker E: And I ain't playing that date with you today. [01:26:35] Speaker F: Let me take another call. [01:26:36] Speaker E: The next caller. [01:26:39] Speaker G: How are you? [01:26:39] Speaker E: I'm doing good, my friend. [01:26:41] Speaker G: Hi, Mr. Dean. [01:26:42] Speaker H: Hi, good afternoon. [01:26:43] Speaker G: Yes, in reference to rallies, right. I think rallies are effective. I think rallies are important because if rallies were not important, the two major political parties would not be investing. And from Bay Bachman, from. [01:27:03] Speaker E: That's a very sensible statement. [01:27:05] Speaker G: Pardon me? [01:27:06] Speaker E: That's an extremely sensible statement that you [01:27:08] Speaker G: made from Lyndon's time at the Pontiano Arena. [01:27:12] Speaker R: Right. [01:27:12] Speaker F: The same thing happens in America, happens in Europe, happens all over the world. They have rallies. It has to be in place. [01:27:17] Speaker G: It has to be a reason why they are investing in these rallies. Now, however, a lot of rallies and campaigns have been wasted with rallies because you want to get the people, you want to hype up especially entire country to come out to these rallies. [01:27:37] Speaker R: Right. [01:27:38] Speaker G: But you have to have a message. Not everybody's going to get drunk. [01:27:44] Speaker E: I like that. [01:27:45] Speaker G: Not everybody's going to be dancing and shaking up and carrying. [01:27:48] Speaker E: I like that. [01:27:49] Speaker F: Stupid. [01:27:50] Speaker E: I love it. [01:27:51] Speaker G: Just having a good time. I take the word stupid backstory, right. Even the young people, don't underestimate us because when we come on there, the majority of persons want to hear what the speakers have to say. [01:28:06] Speaker F: Yes. [01:28:07] Speaker G: They want to leave with something. You understand what I'm saying? [01:28:10] Speaker F: You know what's amazing? You know, it's amazing for me. [01:28:13] Speaker V: Yeah. [01:28:14] Speaker G: What are you going to do for my, my, my community and in turn, what are you going to do for my, my country? So we, I don't ever want people to underestimate the value and appreciate what rallies are for. [01:28:28] Speaker F: I appreciate you. [01:28:28] Speaker G: Persons who hold the rallies have to know what they're going to give out and what they're going to offer, what they're going to present on these rally stages. You all have to stay safe. [01:28:36] Speaker R: Okay. [01:28:37] Speaker F: Thank you, man. [01:28:37] Speaker E: I appreciate that. Because you know what? [01:28:39] Speaker F: I was Just getting a bit tired [01:28:40] Speaker E: myself of nonsensical conversations. [01:28:43] Speaker F: Listen to me. There's a reason why a candidate goes out there and selects numerous individuals to walk the community and knock on doors. Numbers. Numbers make a difference. The more doors you knock, the greater your chance of having conversations with the community. That's a fact. So the person who is campaigning for any political party, never, ever, possibly in this short space of time, reach every door. You need numbers. You need support. For me, the purpose of a rally is very simple. It is a public relations event. It is to go ahead and to allow others from the field of the community to witness and be a part of, join the team and go out there and canvas and win people over. That's the whole purpose for you to say that it's nonsensical or doesn't mean anything. I would say today that you're wrong. Call your life. [01:29:50] Speaker T: Hi, good afternoon, Kath, how are you? [01:29:52] Speaker E: I'm doing good, my friend. [01:29:53] Speaker G: Good. [01:29:54] Speaker T: And good afternoon, I think you said it's Kyle. [01:29:57] Speaker E: Yes, Kyle is here. [01:29:58] Speaker R: Okay. [01:29:58] Speaker T: Good afternoon. I agree with the previous call and I agree with you. [01:30:04] Speaker F: Thank you, ma'. [01:30:05] Speaker G: Am. [01:30:05] Speaker T: I've done my fair share of what they call canvassing or campaigning for a particular candidate. Okay. And it is all about numbers. [01:30:17] Speaker E: That's correct. [01:30:18] Speaker H: Quality system. [01:30:19] Speaker T: You need to have an idea of what your base looks like, and you cannot determine that solely from the rally. So you do your canvassing. Now, when it comes to the rally, like the previous caller said, you're trying to hype up. You want to hype up your message. Okay. You want to get the message out there. Because believe it or not, a lot of people do not listen to the news, whether it's on tv, whether it's on radio. A lot of them, however, listened to a minute ago. We have asked fair share of people who call in and just talk nonsense. [01:30:56] Speaker G: Okay. [01:30:57] Speaker T: So in order for them to get the party's message. Yes, they have the rally. [01:31:03] Speaker E: I agree. [01:31:04] Speaker T: Rallies do give you an idea because, I mean, you'd be foolish to think that everybody who comes to your rally is actually going to vote for you. [01:31:13] Speaker E: That is correct. [01:31:14] Speaker T: Right. But you still get an idea because I have a friend. She and I are on opposite side, but she's been out to the rallies. And what she does is if it's a party she doesn't support, she parks where she can hear. She sits in the car because she wants to hear the message. [01:31:31] Speaker E: That's a wonderful thought. [01:31:33] Speaker T: I would encourage more people. You don't have to get drunk. You don't have to go there to shake up and carry on. I go and I listen to the message because even though I may support a particular party, when the individuals, the candidates get up there, you want. Well, the messaging should be the same, but you want to hear what they're doing under their respective responsibility. So that's how I feel about the rap. [01:32:00] Speaker E: Very wise caller. I do appreciate your call. Thank you so much. [01:32:03] Speaker F: Let me take the other caller. [01:32:04] Speaker E: Next call on the line. No caller. Okay, good. Listen, when I was a pastor, there are certain things that I learned in school. When it came to crowds. Kyle and Gabby, we would pitch a tent. Not that we didn't have a church building. [01:32:26] Speaker F: We pitch a tent because the tent [01:32:28] Speaker E: allows them off the street, park their cars, if they're catching the bus, walk [01:32:34] Speaker F: in and they do not feel as if they are captured. They have the freedom to come in [01:32:40] Speaker E: and leave as they please. [01:32:43] Speaker F: The program itself is that which is supposed to whet the appetite and to win favor with those who are curious enough to come near the tent. That is what a rally is all about. The choir has a purpose. When the choir sings, good music, good fellowship, gifts, prizes, surprises, all these things are part of the magnet to pull you in when you go to a rally. The alcohol, the shaking of pom poms and gyrating of the body and colorful shirts and the stage all lit up, all of that is a part of the attraction to win favor for that particular party. To say that this is of no effect. I fight you on that one. We got to take this quick break. Guardian Radio today, 96.9 FM. [01:33:34] Speaker E: See you on the other side. [01:33:52] Speaker L: This is Minister Jobeth Colby Davis. [01:33:55] Speaker U: When one power line faulted, the whole neighborhood used to go dark. 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Fresh news smart talk all day. [01:36:02] Speaker C: Until the 12th of never. We all will live long forever. [01:36:14] Speaker E: 96.9 FM. I'm your host Garth Millard Rosefar sitting with Kyle Dean and Gabby McKenzie Eneas. You know we're like family here, but you know, this time of of years it just gets very uncomfortable as we take calls and we try to get your opinions. There are those of you who are so biased that you almost become militant and overly aggressive. This is why I cannot wait until May 13th. I want all this dust to settle. I want sanity to come back to us as we can have sensible conversations to build the nation. Right now it almost feels as if we had a hockey game or a basketball game is something where everyone is just pulling for their team and it doesn't have to make any sense. The only thing that really matters is if your team wins. That's the way it feels in here. But I do have much love and much respect for all of you. So we'll continue to listen to whatever's on your mind today. [01:37:15] Speaker F: Calling you alive. [01:37:20] Speaker E: Well, Antoine right here trying to sit up and take all this abuse. This, this is an abusive relationship that we're having right now. [01:37:28] Speaker J: Same with that chicken vagina. [01:37:30] Speaker E: I see y' all can tease me [01:37:31] Speaker F: but I tell it's the best chicken [01:37:33] Speaker E: though I go over there tonight, I [01:37:35] Speaker F: ain't tell you where it is. [01:37:39] Speaker E: Good afternoon. [01:37:40] Speaker F: Hi. [01:37:40] Speaker U: Good afternoon, John. [01:37:41] Speaker J: Okay. Good and good afternoon. [01:37:44] Speaker E: Yes, sir. [01:37:44] Speaker Q: Question. [01:37:45] Speaker J: Before I say what I want to say, let me ask you a question. A government of the day, right? A government and office. Do you think that the bohemian people after a five year term, Right. Just try and have hypothetical here for intelligent dialogue after the five Years you have experienced not what you were told that you lived, that you experienced. After the five years of administration of governance, do you think the remainder of that term would be effective for you or it would be more effective for the opposition who wishes to replace you? [01:38:25] Speaker E: Kyle, you want to answer that? [01:38:27] Speaker H: Well, hey, I'm doing all this well, right? [01:38:30] Speaker J: Holding to the grace of God. [01:38:32] Speaker H: I will tell you this. It is a benefit to both sides, right? Let me tell you why I say that, because. [01:38:38] Speaker J: No, no, that's not what I asked, though I specifically coined the question, after five years of governance, are you going to answer specifically the current administration where there's PRPF and mco I, whatever, the five years of governance, is it beneficial for you campaign, trade, governance, five years, do you think the rally stage at the end of that five years of what you would have experienced is more effective for the government who still is the government, or for the opposition who's trying to replace the government? [01:39:10] Speaker H: Well, I think it's more effective for the government because one, it's a litmus test. It tells you where your base is at, right? [01:39:20] Speaker O: Oh, my God. [01:39:21] Speaker J: Okay, so let me say what I want to say then, based upon your response. It can never be more positive, it could never be more stronger. For a government making projections of what they want to do in the face of you living five years of what they have actually what they have done. [01:39:43] Speaker F: Except. [01:39:44] Speaker J: Except. Except that scenario, projects, in case of five years of governance, that was as impactful, that was as positive, and that moved the people along in the majority to a point where they are so happy with your performance. They believe that the next five years, it's going to bring more of what they enjoy, that existing five years, because you're still on the campaign trail. [01:40:12] Speaker O: However. [01:40:13] Speaker J: However, for the opposition, it is everything, the culmination. And it's not just the campaign. The combination of different spheres of communication, [01:40:23] Speaker O: whether it be media interviews, whether it [01:40:26] Speaker J: be press conferences, whether it be rallies, whether it be grill and chills, whether it be walks in the parks, whatever the case, whether it be door to door, right. It's more effective and more advantageous in the absence of a government performing. It's more advantageous for the opposition. [01:40:45] Speaker E: That is. That would be correct. That would be correct. Anton, if you. If you're putting it like that here, here is where I stand. If a government, let's just say, was for the first three years, absent, just lackluster, and we were trying to put a finger on the pulse, we couldn't comprehend whatever was being done, it may have Been done silently or secretly, whatever. It may have just started at the point of maturation, I don't know. [01:41:14] Speaker F: But what happens is if that government [01:41:16] Speaker E: now begins to perform and you in [01:41:19] Speaker F: opposition was complaining while they're now performing, it then means then that your complaints [01:41:24] Speaker E: are now going to fall on deaf ears. [01:41:26] Speaker F: If you took the time to complain continuously and not build yourself and build [01:41:31] Speaker E: yourself strong financially, the things that you're speaking of, like rallies and knocking on doors and grill and chills, etc. [01:41:38] Speaker F: Those things. Cause they cost revenue. And if you did not take the time to manage yourself and put the revenue in place, even though opportunity may exist for you to become the government, if you cannot afford it, then of [01:41:53] Speaker E: course it's going to fall on deaf ears. It is very expensive to run in politics. [01:41:57] Speaker F: It is not a cheap thing. Because when you are dealing with people, people have needs. John, Chapter four. The woman at the well, when Jesus came to her, he did not come to her with two fish and five loaves. He came to her and he says, you know what? I know you're here for water. How would I give you some living water? You got to speak the people's language. And when you speak the people's language, you got to meet some needs. Jesus met her needs. Politicians have to meet the needs of its citizenry. If you're not meeting needs, of course [01:42:24] Speaker E: it's going to fall on deaf ears. [01:42:26] Speaker F: Go ahead. [01:42:27] Speaker E: Anton, you still there? [01:42:30] Speaker F: He's gone. [01:42:31] Speaker E: Okay, next caller, please. [01:42:33] Speaker V: Good afternoon. God. [01:42:34] Speaker P: Gabbie into Mr. Khalil Dean, good afternoon. [01:42:36] Speaker V: Yeah, I was prompted to call Garvey. Great show yesterday. I wanted to get in, but something you said the research was truthful. [01:42:41] Speaker F: Thank you so much. [01:42:42] Speaker V: Don't say it just now. Is absolutely truthful and it's logical. And so rallies do rally you up, but it's based on your consciousness. [01:42:49] Speaker E: That's correct. [01:42:50] Speaker V: I like the grade politicians that you asked the question earlier in the show. [01:42:54] Speaker Q: Right. [01:42:54] Speaker V: And listen to this, Gabby. I like to grade politicians on the performance prior. That's the words that come out of their mouth, see, of their actions, right? [01:43:02] Speaker E: Yes. [01:43:02] Speaker V: Or in actions, right? [01:43:03] Speaker E: Yes. [01:43:04] Speaker V: And I don't like lies and misinformation and psychological operations. [01:43:08] Speaker E: Yes. [01:43:09] Speaker V: Now, there was a call who keep calling these talk shows. A guy asked a question and he was juxtaposing the pandemic with the other day, right? [01:43:16] Speaker E: Yes. [01:43:17] Speaker V: So let me firstly say that for me, me and my brothers having a conversation, he's one of the original raster man in the family. Right. Question was, what actually one means when you say doing good, and he said, no, it's not making money or just doing good for yourself, but doing good should be spiritually. [01:43:31] Speaker E: Yes. [01:43:31] Speaker V: And your works. So we as humans have become confused. And so Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and the likes, right? They are richer than a lot of people. So when we have people who make money being condescending on the radio as if they know it all and they say it all, and that's it. Somebody made a statement that they didn't see people with the capacity to do the lottery system, but all those people, like anyone could have the capacity. And then you came back and made a statement that contradicted yourself. You say capacity means the ability to understand and learn. [01:44:02] Speaker E: Right. [01:44:03] Speaker V: Now, for me, another question is the commercial Prior said that paid for by the plp. Could anybody verify that? That's just what my mind is thinking. And then also I'm upset with a very important point that I wanted to get across. But in. So I think it slipped my mind Goth. But I really wished I could remember it, to tell you the truth. But I really had something. [01:44:21] Speaker E: You can call back, my friend. [01:44:22] Speaker F: I'm gonna take one or two more [01:44:23] Speaker E: calls so you can call back 52. Next call on the line. [01:44:27] Speaker D: Hey, God. Kyle. Gabby, are you. [01:44:30] Speaker J: Yeah. [01:44:30] Speaker D: I agree with the lady before Anton, [01:44:33] Speaker N: and I agree with Anton. [01:44:34] Speaker D: That's how the people are stealing. And going into the 97 general election. Yeah. Ingram has done so much in that five years. They was happy to give him a second time. Okay, but God. Yeah, you're mixing up things, man. Really, you right. But everything what you're saying. But what we saying. You can't measure success by the size of the crowd. Go back to 2017 general election. [01:44:55] Speaker F: No, I'm not saying that. [01:44:55] Speaker E: You know, I'm saying to you, it's [01:44:57] Speaker F: just a necessary ingredient on the Caribbean trail. [01:45:00] Speaker N: I agree with you. [01:45:00] Speaker E: It's a magnet. [01:45:01] Speaker D: All of that. I say this, the 2017 general election. Alcott Colby and Banister, Mario Bannister, they had a show on Z Nest every night just before the election when he used to come on the show. Man, look at that crowd. Oh, we got this one. We got 34 seats. [01:45:19] Speaker J: At least. [01:45:19] Speaker P: At least. [01:45:20] Speaker D: Look how Christy look on Windsor Park. Boy, look at that crowd last night for the whole month. There's one wrong with that. Oh, we got the 34 seats, man. When the election night comes, the PLP get beat so bad. And Christy Lewis. Okay, let me fix this election by four seats. [01:45:35] Speaker F: Let me fix this one thing. [01:45:36] Speaker U: I just want to just put One thing in there and, and this is what, something, what I've been saying consistently, go ahead, don't count your chickens before they hatch. And I think a lot of people, and especially where there are seats that are so close, voters have not arrived to the poll yet. So confidence is one thing, but don't count your chickens before they hatch. [01:46:00] Speaker E: Okay? So watch this now. I just want to fix this. And I thank you so much. Gabby and Muff, listen to me. If you have performed and done your job well, if you have touched doors, touched lives, your community and your experience of meeting the needs of your constituents, [01:46:21] Speaker F: then when it is time to rally and you say, Garth Rose, burrow, the people who know of my good works say, yay. And even at times when your party loses, you still win. People like Shane Gibson in the past still win. Perry Christie, Hubert Ingram still win. Long Island, St. Anne's still win. You got to stand on your two feet, do your job. When you get to the rally, your people will stand and say, we want you again. But if you don't do your job, the rally will serve you no purpose. If you don't take the currency of the rally and put it behind you on the streets and knock on those doors and meet some needs, it will not avail to anything. True enough. It may not be about the numbers at the rally, but it will be the numbers in the ballot box. You better go and get those numbers if you want to win. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. You got to bring that something if you want to win. Until next time, this has been garden radio today, 96.9 FM. We had a great time. Difficult conversation, probably one of the most intense that I've experienced while sitting here. I hope it gets a bit easier as we get closer toward the election. But if it doesn't, we are still one Bahamas and one God. May God bless you. Until we meet again. [01:47:49] Speaker E: Next time.