Guardian Radio Today - April 15, 2026

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[00:00:59] Speaker C: Talk to me, talk to me Looks like we're making off a lost time need you to spell it out for me Bossing over on all night it's like a type of alchemy Introduce me to your best friend I can come stop right now Satellite ain't even that far right I kind of wonder where you are Already know I can leave it alone you oh, my mind already gave you the time and the place so don't be shy just come Be the man I need Tell me you got something to give I want it, I kind of it when you call me wonderful Whatever the type of talking is I got to know you Be the man I need Talk to me, talk to me talk to me Talk to me Be the man that I need, Baby talk to me talk to me Be the man that I need Talk to me, talk to me Be the man that I need, Baby talk to me, talk to me Be the man. [00:02:30] Speaker B: 96.9 FM, Guardian Radio today. Good afternoon, Bahamas, and those of you listening from all around the world, welcome on into the show. Listen to me, it's gonna be a hot one, because you already know what today is. It's Wednesday. And Wednesday, you're in good company. You're in great company because who's in the house? Gabby's in the house. Gabby's in the house each and every Wednesday. You know that on Guardian Radio. Today, I wanna establish protocol. You all know how we do this thing. By now, on a Wednesday, I gotta get the housekeeping business out of the way, get everything in order, all the shout outs. So, so much to talk about. Y' all know how much things transpire between last Wednesday when I talk to y' all and this Wednesday, and we got two hours, and we don't even have a full two hours because, you know, we have to take breaks. We have to pay tribute to our sponsors. We gotta get all the calls in and the text in. So y', all, you all already know this could be a hard show. Let me give you the numbers to call and to text and to be a part of today's conversation very early, because I have a wonderful show planned for you today. I was also supposed to have someone joining me today, you know, just to chop it up and have this conversation. I'm uncertain if they're gonna be here in studio, but if they do decide to show up, we'll have that conversation. But you know how things go, G keep the show rolling on and on and on. So the numbers to be a part of today's conversation to call at 3236-2323-2543-1632-54259. And anywhere from our family of islands, you all know that you can call in toll free. The number to call is 242-300-5720. And of course, our texters, y' all know, y' all like to light me up when there's only two minutes left in the show and I can't read all your messages. Get those messages in early today, and I will try my best to get them in time before we run out of time. So the number to text in today is 422-44-7796. And of course, standard tax rates do apply. And of course, you want to keep up with everything Guardian, everything. Gabby, you got to follow us on social media. So of course you can follow us on social media at Guardian Radio, on Twitter @GuardianRadio96, on Instagram @GuardianRadio969. And of course, you can follow me personally on both Facebook at Gabrielle McKen, a McKenzie Enas, and on Tik Tok at Kabi or G Enius. That's G E A N S brief. Okay, I think that's all the housekeeping. The formalities. We got the formalities first. So now, of course, I have to send my birthday shout outs to all those celebrating a birthday in the month of April. [00:06:04] Speaker D: April. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Happy, happy birthday. Enjoy your day. I have to send my top fan shout outs because every time I go out, you guys tell me you're listening. You're tuned in. No matter where it is, where I'm at, whether it's Guardian or anywhere else, you guys are locked in and you can't wait to hear from Gabby. So, of course, I always try to get at least one or two of your names so I can shout you out. And Ms. Anna said, when you go on that show, now, y' all know when a senior woman tell you something, you gotta follow instructions. She say, you better give me my shout out. And I say I have to oblige because you sound like a super fan and you know I love my. I love my people. So, Ms. Anna, hello to you. A very Special. Hello. Hello to all those down on Market street in Wilson's Shoe Shop. Hello to, of course, my mother. Cause she. She don't let me live, y', all, if I don't shout out. And then she missed the shout out the last time at the beginning of last week's show because she was down there in Nanagua Gallivant. And they ain't got no signal. Why y' all ain't got no service down there in Nagua? My God, man. Big old island full of donkey and salt and flamingo and no cellular service. My God. Anyway, hello, Mother. I know you're locked in. Tuned in. My biggest Chelly, my biggest fan and supporter. Hello to, of course, my husband. He's busy right now, but always love and support. And of course, all of you listening, my fans in even Atlanta and everywhere. It's so wonderful when I hear the length and breadth, Chris, of people who are listening to Guardian Radio that are not even in the Bahamas. So this show is international. Y' all need to recognize and understand that we are being carried all around the world. And I thank you and appreciate you for all your support. Listen, I didn't tell you all, plenty has transpired since we last spoke. We done had two manifesto rollouts, right? Both major political parties have rolled out their manifesto. The COIS has been kind of in circulation for a while. A plan that they've been building on. Vision 2040. I believe they call it 2030. Sorry, 2030, that they've been building on. So that's been out for a while for persons to look at and view. But of course, the two major players have entered the chat. And I attended both. That is right. Both of their manifesto ruled out in person. So nobody had to give me no third party information. And at the time, the PLP didn't release the digital copy. So I was so mad, y', all, I had to sit down there and take notes. You all had me dictating. Y' all was literally dictating. I was there feeling like I was in the fifth grade all over again. And the teacher said, I need to see how good you are in English. And she would dictate and read off everything. And we had to try our best to write as much of it down. That's what I had to do. But later, down, about a week later, almost a week later, they released it, the physical copy. But I had already take all my dictation notes, y'. All. And then, of course, the F M had their own on Sunday, which I also attended as well. And I really loved that manifesto cover. The young man that did was very emotional and sentimental. Just the reveal of that. And even since we last spoke, guys, both political parties have had rallies. Yay to the rallies. So we also got to attend those. I didn't get to stay to the end for the Barrasa Liberal Party's rally, but I did get, I watched the vast majority of it. I did go because I don't like third party information. Y' all trapsy people. Y' all is telling truths. Everybody is tell the side of the story that they want to hear and they want to get out there, which is what PR is about. Right. But I, I, I need to be able to bring you an objective side of this coin. So let me tell you what today's show is about. Today's show, we're still on Election watch. This is Election Watch Wednesday, baby. And we're continuing in the organized chaos because y' all only get a lot of Gabby on Wednesday. I have to talk about a lot of things, but, but y' all know how we do it. Everything's gonna be organized, it's gonna be structured, and we are going to have a great conversation. So I think in the organized chaos, I really wanna talk about the tale of two rallies, just leaders and a national lottery. That, that sound good to me. That sound like some real organized chaos because somehow they all mesh together. The tale of two rallies, religious leaders and a national lottery. That, that's literally. That is the theme of today's show. And in this organized chaos, I want to set some ground work for you all. I'm gonna take this caller and I'm gonna let Chris take us into our first break of the show because we have to take two breaks before we go to the news. I'm gonna let them take us into our first break, and then I'm gonna set the stage for you callers and texters to really understand what we're gonna be diving into when I talk about the tale of two rallies today. So, caller, you're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [00:12:11] Speaker E: Hey, Gabby, how you doing? [00:12:12] Speaker B: I'm great. How are you? [00:12:14] Speaker E: Okay. Well, Gabby, I'm glad that you went to both rallies because I think you would obviously have an objective view as [00:12:24] Speaker F: to [00:12:26] Speaker E: if we're talking about the reach and actually how much persons were in attendance. I heard something that I don't know how in God you could come up with a concept of. Well, this rally wasn't that damned that much people, because I was just for that specific area when if an F M is An F M and a PLP is a plp. [00:12:51] Speaker B: They go in no matter where it [00:12:52] Speaker E: is, no matter where we pulling up, [00:12:54] Speaker B: bring your team, bring your crew, we pull up. [00:12:57] Speaker E: And if you think that's how the leaders are looking at a rally and they telling everybody to come out, they don't care where are you in Palm beach or where do you in New York? They want everybody to come out. So I know and I attended both. And I mean, I could be a little bit biased, but I could be biased, but I could tell you the honest truth. I thought that the Progressive Liberal Party had a larger crowd based on some of the just trying to, trying to get in certain areas and get out. And looked at the aerials and all of those other things, I saw that they had a larger crowd. But as we know, crowds don't ultimately end up to be voters, you know. [00:13:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:46] Speaker E: Because we've had 2017 on both sides. [00:13:50] Speaker B: 2017 completely shocked us. All right. Because the Progressive Liberal Party's rallies were well attended, well oiled. But I don't want us to drift too far because the crowd control is not my tale of two rallies today. [00:14:04] Speaker F: Right. [00:14:04] Speaker B: So I saving that for a lot of talk show hosts that want to talk about how much people was there and all that. [00:14:10] Speaker E: What I talking about today is substance and basically what was, what was being said and whatnot. I think basically, and this is, this is my personal opinion, I think that realistically, both had their pros and their cons. So I can't really say, okay, this one had more than the other or this one had more substance than the other. Everybody had their pros and their cons. And one of the key things, I hope that eventually we morph into the future. And some people say that I was surprised, I don't know if it was Mr. Lang said that opinion polls, as far as having debates and so forth and public debate, if that's a good thing or that's a bad thing, he could correct me on that one. But I don't, you know, I think that having a public debate and allowing. [00:15:03] Speaker B: I heard. Mr. I happened to hear that part of Mr. Lang's show and I heard where he said that giving someone two minutes to answer a very complex subject makes absolutely no sense. And I concur with him because if you're talking on giving somebody, let's say, one of the hot button issues, immigration, and you give them two minutes to really explain what you're saying is going to be their plan and something that's multifaceted, multi layered, it Makes no sense for those of us that are looking for real substance, real meat to chew on. [00:15:40] Speaker E: But I think that we could. We have gotten to the point now [00:15:43] Speaker G: where we need to. [00:15:45] Speaker E: If you ask you do a poll just on that, I guarantee the majority of people will want to hear a debate. [00:15:52] Speaker B: Yeah. But I'm going to give you an opportunity, if you'd like to call back in the show, but I really want to just set the precedence on what we're going to be talking about. Thank you so much for your call, caller. I want to take the next caller before we go to a break and then I want to set the stage because one of our great hosts, if you happen to listen to Guardian Radio, this should be the station you locked in all day. Ca Nury actually inspired today's show, my show today with the post that he posted on social media. But I'm gonna come back to it after the news break and as I promised, I'm gonna take the caller call your live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. Call. Are you there? Going once, going twice. I think we lost that caller. Let me get some of your texts in then before we go to the news because I don't want them to pile up on me. I don't want them to pile up on me. And y' all say I said it from the beginning of the show. Okay, I got y'. [00:16:47] Speaker H: All. [00:16:48] Speaker B: So this text says, gabby, curiosity has gotten the better part of me. Did you get resolution to your Bimini saga? I actually happened to speak with a lawyer who informed me about that, but y', all, I have to update y' all on a different show. Man, we ain't got time for that today. Would I update y' all on Bimini on another show? This next text that says, oh, boy, good day. Gabby. The only thing being worse than being blind is having sight but no vision. But too many people can see see and don't know what they are looking for. Good morning. It's afternoon, but good afternoon, Gabby. They should seek a rule that no one wears no party color or paraphernalia during voting. It will probably ease tension on the line. Gabby. In 2017, the PLP had a massive rally and won one seat, Nassau, which was Glenis Hannah Martin. Gabby, it's amazing how we spend that amount of money on beaches and parks. The parks are still in rundown condition. Someone needs to be lockup man. This is coming in, of course, from our text line. And the next text reads, gabi, I'm with you. I'm going to everyone rally to form my own analysis. That's what sensible people do. Even if you don't go in person, you turn on the television, whatever they're screaming on, you tune in, you jot down your points. So when you get these people on radio stations like Guardian and, and you're able to call and text in questions, you are texting from an informed place based on things that they would have put out there. That's the debates that they're having now. Right. The information that they put out into the public on these rally stage, on the campaign trail, promises when they come to your door, if you seek clarity, that's what you can do. And this last text says, good afternoon, Gabby. Thank God it's Wednesday. I clock that clock, clock that, Chris. Thank God it's Wednesday to hear you and your viewers. Yes, yes, yes. We could need to call it tgiw, you know, thank God it's Wednesday with Gabby. 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Western Union [00:21:28] Speaker B: love the show. Want to give your support? Become a sponsor today. Call 23 oh for our rates and packages. That's 302-2300. Become a sponsor on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Fresh news smart talk all day. [00:21:45] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM Fresh News Smart talk all day. [00:21:54] Speaker I: Scramble don't you see you no longer care for me I miss the wonders [00:22:03] Speaker E: of your kiss why did you leave [00:22:06] Speaker B: me here like this? [00:22:09] Speaker I: Stop the world and let me off I'm tired of going round and round I play the game of Love and loss [00:22:22] Speaker B: 96.9 FM Guardian Radio today with your host Gabby. It's a DGIW, thank God it's Wednesday type of day. It's an election watch Wednesday type of day. Nomination today is tomorrow type of day. So the roads people plan, plan early. They could have the roads block up. You could be frustrated. Map out your routes from now or call your office and tell them I come in after these people and get off the road because tomorrow is officially nomination day in the 24 2. It is that climactic time. We look forward in our Bahamian culture because elections are a part of Bahamian culture. You can't, you don't have bohemian culture without some of that election flavor. Right. And we've always had very spirited elections. So tomorrow is nomination day. Prepare to see all the red, white, blue, yellow and every color in between. And you know what also just a little bit off topic in my chaos. You know what also make me mad? These people didn't pick all the primary colors so what color I supposed to wear now and then they want to accuse you of being biased because I happen to look sexy when I put on red so I can't wear red no more then if I put on blue or yellow because you know black people's skin that that yellow just is be golden on your skin now. I mean you all pick all the primary colors in the closet in the rainbow and then you all go tell people if they put on this color they must support this thing or they can wear that thing. I, I really need our politics to evolve from that. Please. Cuz I could put on whatever color in my closet. Whatever I think Gabby look good in is what Gabby could put on. So whoever have a problem with it, you could do the next best thing. But let's, let's just get back to let's get back to the business at hand on this Wednesday. So our one of our good hosts Ca Nury Guardian AM with Ca Nury he posted about a day ago. He put both manifestos into ChatGPT and gave him a short summary analysis about both manifestos from the two major political parties and he said that the overall conclusion was technically and structurally the FM's manifesto is stronger. However, the PLP manifesto is more polished visually and politically persuasive. In simple terms, PLP manifesto better marketing and narrative evident manifesto better policy and structural substance and I want to pick up on the conversation right there when we talk about the way politics works in the 242 and in Nassau in general and having attended both political events and actually numerous side events because I went to a few candidate things from both political parties as well and you know, so I could have lumped this together for you and really drawn an objective conclusion on this. It has become apparent to me that ELP is a production machinery. It does not matter if they are in opposition or if they are in governance because the argument will be formed by some that oh, they got all the government money resources, blah blah blah blah blah. In 2021 they didn't have the government resources behind them yet their campaign rollout launch. In fact I felt like they caught the only person who was surprised by the election. The early election date was the fnm because the PLP in rolling out their campaign even with an early election being called was seamless. It was like a they are just a well oiled machinery when you look at it. So when I talk about the tale of two rallies, you may ask Gabby, what does that mean? What does that mean when you are rallying people? That is literally what you need to do to win an election. Elections are popularity contest. Let me say that again. Elections are popularity contests. News flash for the people who didn't get it. Because it is the person who convinces the most people who is most popular, most favored in that constituency that becomes the representative. Therefore I believe we can derive from that it is a popularity contest. In popularity contest if we look at the high school and the primary school analogies when we were children, it is the person who was most liked by all the people because maybe he or she dressed well, they smelt well, they looked polished, they looked like somebody you wanted to follow. They were the leader of the pack. Is it fair then to say that bohemians can be a bit superficial when it comes to elections? Because it doesn't necessarily mean the FNM has always been a party that puts forward great policies. They've always been good in governance, but somehow they always forget that this is about convincing people that you are good for them to govern. The PLP has always done a good job at that. They've just always out politicked the F and M. You could fight me on it, it's my opinion. Since 97 it has been evident because the FNM has not been able to retain back to back political victories. It has been said so many times in so many spaces that the PLP puts themselves out of office between scan notes, mismanagement or perceived mismanagement of public accounts, whatever it is that has cost them governments. So some have drawn the conclusion that the FNM has not been able to successfully convince people that they should support them. That brings me to what we're talking about, rallies. A lot of people feel like it is not a production of what we should. Look at how the speakers come on, how the chants are. You have to give your people meat on the bones. There is a reason why Hewitt Ingraham was revered, why a Hubert Ingraham rally sold out the nation, why the sea of red became a thing. Because not only did he give people substance, but he gave them it in digestible forms. So I say to you, even if, even though I use the analogy of broccoli, although it's very good for you, people know all the nutritional benefits of eating broccoli. They still, Chris, want to see that dress up on a plate. They want to see it little sauteed, sprinkle a little parsley on top of it. They want to see it nicely done on a salad so that they know they want to eat that broccoli with their eyes. If they just go and look at that on the salad bar, they may not add that to their salad, but if you dress that up in a salad, maybe even put a little bit of cheese on it, even though it ain't too good for you, just, just, just, just sprinkle a little something because everything in moderation, you'll be okay. People need to be able to digest. Your policies may be good, but if they are not rallying, if you are not convincing people to get behind them, you are not putting on the production of a lifetime that says, oh my God, did you hear what they said? It was something about those days that I want to use. I'm being particular not to use the current analogy of speakers now in these rally formats, but going back to that 2012 pre2012, the Ingram Christie era and it was something about when Mr. Haig, hoodwink, bamboozled, run amok, lied to, got on the stage. It was something about certain speakers from both political parties you wanted to hear from. They not only brought you substance that people's hands was in cookie job, right. But they. They sprinkled that little political finesse. So while they were explaining to you the amount of money that was spent from the government and in deficit, or how bad it was, the handling of these hurricanes and all these things, they made sure to rally their base and give them the energy that they needed and that people needed so that they don't fall asleep mid speech. Because, let's be honest, a lot of people have short attention spans. The purpose of rallies isn't necessarily to get out all of your information in one setting, but it is to get the key points that you need circulating, the buzzwords that you need people talking about and them energized enough that that translates into votes. It is the tale of two rallies. Which political party is going to be able to rally their troops to get them to the polls, to get them to. Energy is infectious. It's transferable. It's something about rallies back in the day that made people want to get out of their bed and go to Clifford Park. I wasn't here in 1973, but when I hear the stories of 1973, of 1992, of all these, of 1967, when they are told by the people that lived it, it's something about it that's infectious. That you are able and I am able to feel that that's a moment I wanted to be a part of. That's a moment that went down in history. This is what political parties have to do. I see the phone lines lighting up, Chris, So I'm gonna get them in on this conversation, but I wanted to set the stage on where I'm going with this. So caller, good afternoon. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [00:35:07] Speaker E: Good afternoon. [00:35:08] Speaker B: Hi. [00:35:09] Speaker E: Listen, I appreciate what you're saying and I like your show. I like where you're going with it. I'm going to say this though, the FM was not surprised to know May 12 election. As a matter of fact, the FM thought election would have been early night. We look for a March election, but we know if you didn't call it in May, you'd have to go all the way to October or September. So we would not caught up that when it comes to the election date, as it relates to rallies. Yeah, rallies is important to kind of measure the Support. But like you say, the PLP is ace on throwing good parties and good riding and having a ball. They. They master that. I guess they get more experience than every other political party. They already master that. But I can tell you this. I think technology has slowed down crowds on both sides. On both sides. A lot of people stay on watching on, on television or they watch it on their phone, YouTube, Facebook, whatever comes on. But some people don't, don't come out like they used to. [00:36:11] Speaker B: And Carla, though, I want you to get this, and I said this at the top of the show. I don't know if you missed this. It is not a measurement of size, but a quality of the show because those who are watching it on tv, both rollouts, both launches are still getting an experience. You still need to convince the people who are not there in person that you can rally support. So when I'm talking about rallies, I am not having that miniature minute conversation of who had the most crowds, the aerial shots, the drone shots. That's not the conversation we're having today. We're having a conversation of production value, digestible of you if you are serving broccoli on the plate and me, who, like some of my friends who don't eat mushrooms, even though I tell them how good they are and broccoli and certain things. We say, I ain't grow up yet. I reached that part of my adult stage yet where I know beef, broccoli and stuff I need to eat. Right. So if you are like them who have not reached that stage in their life where you can sit down and listen through soliloquy of information, how do you now serve them this broccoli, this beets and these mushrooms that they don't eat? How do you present this to them in a way that they at least want to try? [00:37:42] Speaker E: And that's very good advice, and I accept that. That's very good observation. Yeah, I agree 100% with that. It is. You can rally the people up because they don't really come with too much information. They want something juicy they could run with. And that's the one thing Papa had on all the other leaders outside of the Finland. Papa mastered it too. You know, like you say, he come to the rally, remember the first rally in 92, based up with the money, pulling with the money, with the money, then he come back in 97, talking about if you let them get their hands back on the cookie jar. I know he was saying it's a floor. And in such a way that was catchy to people Always it captivated. [00:38:19] Speaker B: So people left those rallies. Thank you so much for your call, caller. People produce. You could cue the next call. People left those rallies talking about the corruption, talking about whatever it was the point that he wanted them to talk about. In 2012, although the F and M did a lot for the country out east was still getting rusty water out there was. There was no reason why they couldn't have convinced voters of giving them a second term in 2012 for the amount of things that. The amount of deliverables that happen. But it seems to be a disconnect in the we deliver sort of speech. And people bought into the believe in Bahamians. That's what people bought into. Everywhere I went, people were saying, boy, they believe in us. Boy, the PLP believing us. They had something they could hold on to. Wait. But believe in me. Bayesa Bohemian. I need you to. I need. I could hold on to this plate. So even though the stadium, the sports center, the airport, all these things, the road infrastructure in 2012, the F and M still was taken out because people didn't necessarily connect with the fact that we delivered. When you put it up against believe in Bahamian, something that I could feel in my heart, something that I could hold personally. To me, it's a messaging problem when it comes down to it. Producer, we could have the next caller please call on the line. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [00:40:06] Speaker D: How are you? [00:40:06] Speaker B: I'm good. How are you? [00:40:08] Speaker D: I'm fine, thank you. I'm following you. I kind of believe what you're saying. You're making a lot of sense. It may hurt a bit. It may hurt me a bit too, but it makes sense. Okay. Then it comes my view on the FNM and the plp. Okay. And as it relates to their gathering, their rally, the FM to me was always a party of country. A party of country, meaning a party of like policies. [00:40:44] Speaker B: They. They've been a policy. I like to give them a policy. Government more. [00:40:48] Speaker D: They concentrate more on country whereby voices the plp, they can concentrate on people, right? But even when they preparing and getting ready for their rally in their head, they thinking about people. Meaning they gotta have food, have no cost. They're gonna have the liquor. [00:41:08] Speaker B: Oh, call it turn. Turn it up, turn it up. Make sure they can hear you in the. And use a smart woman. [00:41:14] Speaker D: They're gonna have the music. They're gonna pick the right person to sing the best. So, you know, they just go. Their presentation. Okay, can come out and they can make a statement right? But go ahead, my people, right? We can come out, but we what we need to come out. And this is what, something that I'm shaking. Let's come out with facts. Let's come out with what we know happening. Let's come out with what hit. What we can hit them with the most. Okay? Let's come out with what's the streets. The, the. The. What's. What's talking, okay. What's the gossip when you go in this on the street, what you're hearing, okay? What. See what people tend to. What people don't know. When you get like Rick Fox. I listened to him last night, right? He categorized himself as he in a race. He said he's a fighter, right? He picture himself then he on the basketball team. That's what this election is to him about. He's. He's on the team. And on a team on that court, he's there to win. So he see himself playing, right? And I think that's what we need to do. We need to realize either you in it to win it or you just in it because bam. And people tired now. They ain't. Look here, I promise I wasn't going to rally this time around. You know, you might see. You might not see much people because people just ain't for the rally and no more because they ain't for the talks no more. They want to hear what's going on. They want you to tell them what you about to do. And then we want to know how you're going to fix it. Okay? We have some serious things happening in this country. And this election could be so easy for the F M. You understand? They might say they saying it. But are you saying that that bohemian could understand? Are you saying that loud enough that I can hear you? You understand? Because we have some things happening and we need it to be sex. We have some. Right now we have a third party. I don't want you to sleep on them, you know, because these young people, they about no F And M&PLP, you know, they. In their head, they want change far as they concern. Nobody speaking their language. Did you even go to find out what language they're speaking? Do you know where they. Which draw they're on? They looking for changes. So I am saying to win this, you better come out kicking and screaming. [00:43:49] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:43:50] Speaker D: You gotta come fighting with all your might. [00:43:53] Speaker B: Thank you so much, Carla. I appreciate your contribution. Because who's going to get you there if you focus on policies, policies who you go implement those policies on if you are not elected. These policies, you need to convince people, each party, the coalition of Independence, the Progressive Liberal Party and the Free National Movement have to convince people that the policies that they want to implement will not leave them behind and they're not disconnected from them. The constitution doesn't say anything about you being literate or illiterate. You know, don't speak to that. It says it don't speak to that in terms of voting. So you have to. The educator in me is saying now you need to be disseminating your information in different modes, methods that people can digest it, that people can understand it from all groups because you have all walks of life of people coming out to vote. And if they need a translator to understand you, every time you get up on a rally stage, which is really a big party for people, you have other opportunities where you can present fully realized, such as press conference, press conferences, your manifestos. That is where you go into detail, flesh out the stuff. But at these rallies, you got to give people a little bit of red meat and a little. And some vegetable. You got to give them some vegetables, but they want some meat on the side, man. Put some meat on the bone. Call you live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [00:45:37] Speaker E: Hello. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Hi. [00:45:38] Speaker E: Hey Gabby. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Hello. I can hear you. Go ahead. [00:45:42] Speaker E: Okay. Yeah, my great show as usual. Gabby. I the lady who just called, I that was the excellent call, man, you know, because what we we need, we need our leaders before us, right? Oh who leading us still they, they don't understand that the paradigm has already shift, right? So their job is to keep the paradigm has already shifted to try to convince the people, the electorate that it didn't. But, but for them, they, they not aware like you guys said, you know, people, the technology is here, right? So people them don't read I'm no newspaper, no no news broadcast to find out any information no more. That's old story. But these leaders today, they still operating as if only what they say to the people is what they can adhere to, right? I also believe that the Bahamas needs a serious paradigm shift because you only could be a crazy person. This how I when people could come to you, right? And tell you the same thing over and over and over, right? And for every time you give them a han of oh yeah man, you ready right? That sounds like a crazy person because ain't all the time the politician could be right, right? So and if the people them telling the politicians what they what they need to do to get right, but they doing their best endeavor to prove that what we Seen ain't right. We in a crisis in this country. My sister and I really hope that the beaming people because it ain't about FM and COI and plp. Those days are gone. They're the days how our grandparents them used to live for identity because if you wasn't affiliated with with the PLP or the flm, you have no life span. [00:47:48] Speaker H: Right. [00:47:49] Speaker E: We need to move away from that because you see the Bahamas is for behemoth, not PLP or FNM or cois. Nowhere in the Constitution it says that right. It's for Bahamians. So if we have any party elected in this country and don't have that ideology a part of their part of their existence then we loosen. We will continue to lose the obvious point that like your behemoth is supposed to be the most important situation don't care who in power. So if we have, if we have any government in power, what is there to make sure that the beheming is not robbed, they're not over taxed, they're not being infiltrated, their culture is strong. [00:48:42] Speaker B: Then we have Obama's. Thank you so much Call. I want to get at least two more calls in before the news break. I want to pay respect to my caller. So caller, you are live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [00:48:55] Speaker E: Hey Gabby, how you doing? [00:48:56] Speaker B: I'm good. [00:48:57] Speaker E: I'm glad that I took the opportunity to hear where you were going with this and the groove that you were going with this. Gabby, I totally agree with you. Perception is a serious thing and you may have a lot of substance. You may be presenting substance but perceived and being entertained and being basically where you have people coming together enjoying an experience because mainly like you said and I agree with you he that puts on the best show helps to maintain a lot more of the information. When you come to Raleigh, people look at a Raleigh like a body I'm being real behavior and and you may think that you've created all the greatest substance in the world and people get little bites of this little bite to that but the main thing is fellowshipping together and if you don't understand that this, this whole concept about election and Raleigh's, you know that's a marketing that's about marketing. [00:50:09] Speaker B: Thank you so much. [00:50:11] Speaker D: Marketing, right. [00:50:12] Speaker E: I don't care how much information you [00:50:14] Speaker D: think you got, you ain't like you [00:50:17] Speaker E: going in the wind. [00:50:18] Speaker B: Thank you so much. I want to get one more caller in before the news. I'll let this caller take us into the news break. Go ahead Calla, you got about A minute and a half before we have to go to news. Welcome to Guardian Radio Today with Gabby. Hello? Are you there? [00:50:35] Speaker L: Hello? [00:50:36] Speaker H: Hello? [00:50:36] Speaker B: Hi. Hi. Yes. [00:50:38] Speaker L: Yes. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I have quite a bit to say. Can I call you back on the next side? [00:50:43] Speaker B: You want to call me back on the next side? [00:50:45] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:50:45] Speaker B: Okay, no problem. [00:50:46] Speaker L: I live 90 seconds. I don't think I can go, oh, okay. [00:50:49] Speaker B: Okay. You can call me back on the next side, then. And on the next side, we're gonna. We're gonna pick up on something else, so you may want to jot your point down. [00:50:58] Speaker L: Absolutely. [00:50:59] Speaker B: Okay. All right, listen, let me get in. Let me take this time to get in some more of these text then, y', all, please. Let me tell you something. Please don't text me. Nothing insulting, but nobody, though. I. I really want to be respectful to all of my callers, all of my listeners, all of you all. Whether it's good calls or even bad calls, I try to be as respectful as possible when I'm in this space facilitating this national conversation, in this national debate. So if you do text me something little funny, you all know I ain't gonna call the people name Anga. Read it. I telling you now off the bat, I in. You see me using all my colloquialism. I reading it. I got laugh, I got chuckle, and then I go slide that one to the side. Don't call me trying to bash none of the hosts on Guardian radio station because I ain't gonna read. Ain't gonna happen. This would happen, man. Come on, y'. [00:51:59] Speaker D: All. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Be some team spirit, team players. But let me get in a couple more of your text. This person said, is it true that there's only two working ambulances on New Providence? Can you look into this, please? I'm not certain. I'll have to. I'll have to look into that for you. This text just says Gabby. I. I'm gonna read that after the break. That. [00:52:24] Speaker D: That's. [00:52:24] Speaker B: That sound like a whole nother thing. Listen. It's the tale of two rallies, the religious leaders and a national lottery on our organized chaos Wednesday. We'll be right back after the news. [00:52:45] Speaker I: You stopped the world and left me off? Stop the world I wanna get off. Tired of going round and round I played the game of love and loss. You stopped the world and left me [00:53:01] Speaker K: all [00:53:05] Speaker I: you tried to rest the bro with the best for all your printing days there ain't no one better for posters and binders, magazines and flyers, for window decals, greeting cards and newsletters. No job too Big. And there's no job too small to name it. We can print it. Just give us a call. Let print masters bring your masterpiece to life. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Located the Nassau Guardian Building. Telephone 302-23-6 1. [00:53:35] Speaker J: Five years of pop rule. Are you better off today while you work? They've spent millions on taxpayer funded trips, a government funded luxury car, and handed out hundreds of millions in no bid contracts. But for the rest of us, gas and groceries through the roof, vat on bread basket items, healthcare that is broken, unaffordable and out of reach. And it's not just your wallet. For five years, illegal immigrants have flooded our communities, putting excessive pressure on our schools, our housing and our social services. As they flood in, Bahamian families fall behind. Under the F and M, there will be a change. The F and M has a plan to address the rising cost of living, secure our borders, protect Bahamians from illegal immigrants and fix our health care. Because the FNM knows our job is to work for you and not the few. This message was paid for and authorized by the Free National Movement. [00:54:35] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. 96.9 FM. [00:54:56] Speaker I: Stop the world I want to get off. Stop the world and let me off Tired of going round and round I play the game of love and loss. [00:55:15] Speaker B: 96.9 FM, Guardian Radio. Today cut the foolery and let Bohemians off the hamster wheel. Are we really tired of going round and round in this country? I know we ain't tired of elections. Oh, man, we ain't tired of those because we, we love election season. That's a Bohemian thing. I told y' all today it's Wednesday. So if you're just tuning in, if you're just joining us, welcome to Election Watch Wednesday. Welcome to thank God it's Wednesday because you know your girl Gabby is in the building. Welcome to organized chaos. Y' all know we have to try and squeeze in a little bit of this, a little bit of that, a little bit of everything in this Wednesday show. So I want to take what we started to talk about of the rallies and rallying and bring in now the second portion of what I told you, which was the tale of two rallies, religious leaders and a national lottery. See, now y' all trying to figure out. Gabby, let's come together. It sounds a little chaotic. I promise you it's organized chaos. Because on the national election stage, Free National Movement leader and leader of the Royal Opposition, or Machi's Royal Opposition, Michael C. Pintard. Announced that a Free National Movement government would rule out a national lottery. And whoa. I was there when he said that. He said it at their manifesto rollout. I mean, and the energy in the room, the crowd, wow, wow. So I immediately posted it to my social media and I said, michael C. Pintard said that his government intends, if elected, to roll out a national lottery. What are your thoughts? Because I never tried to impose my personal opinions on everyone or make them appear to be national opinions or what the masses are feeling, seeing and thinking. So I was able to get quite a lot of Sebast Vassian was on today's show with Morning Blend with Dwight Straughan and he was asked a question in reference to the national lottery. He was also asked about the moratorium, which I still kind of didn't get the answer to that question. His answer was that whatever the administration seek to do. But I would have want a little bit more clarity on whether or not if you're elected to be a part of the governing party, what is your stance on it? Seeing that you have a stake in that, right. The moratorium, applying for an extension, I would want some clarity on that. And I think it's something that his public relations team should be getting ahead of and I think that the opposition's public relations team should be getting all over it and you see where misinformation gets in between. Right? You're not getting ahead of it, the opposition isn't taking advantage of it. And so everything is gray area in between. And I got tons of feedback persons saying, yes, it's a great idea, it's a great idea. There were some persons saying we don't need it, corruption and all this different stuff and what it could possibly do, et cetera. Not too many opinions on that side. However, the Prime Minister leaned in when he referenced the Dominican Republic. Am I correct, Chris? I got a cue to my producer. I believe it was the doctor that he referenced in his statements when asked by media about Pintards proposed national lottery bid, he said that it's not working for some of the countries that he referenced and he would have alluded to the corruption, et cetera. What I do want to say though is aren't the officials that we elect, don't they. Aren't they the ones that tend to be corrupt? So what you're saying is we can't trust the people because this is what I read into the statement and I feel like the Prime Minister does need to get on the defense about that and clear that up because what you're saying now is you can't trust, we can't trust our elective officials. Not the teeth. That's literally what you're telling us, that if we implement a national lottery and the money ain't going into the consolidated fund, it's going to disappear into some black hole and people could be teething the money. So you are saying to us that all these, all these people who run in for office are corrupt. That's what you're telling us. Or that as the government tends to do that we cannot find consultants to pay good monies to implement a system or to assist us in implementing a system that works. The current small ball number systems, they currently utilize US models for their numbers. Those numbers are when you. So when you go to go play your tree ball in Miami, in Chicago, they fall in here in New York, in all the thousands of states that they have, you are using their numbers, but people are purchasing tickets at your establishment. And should the numbers fall in those states, you pay them out. So you can't fix the ball which fall in Miami to pay the people. You can't fix the ball which fall in New York and Chicago and all that. Why not us then, partner? And this is just an idea that came to my head based on all the overwhelming support I saw for a national lottery. Sebastian himself sat on the show and said he supported. Craig Flowers came out and said that they supported. So then why not say to us, as Bahamians in the beta testing phase of it, we don't have to draw balls here. If we feel that lottery tampering is going to happen or whatever it is we may feel and call us. I want you to hold or you can hang up and call right back. I'll get to the phone lines very shortly. But I really want to lay this out for this lotto point. Why not? Then? The Florida Lottery, they are our partners to the U.S. i think it's Tuesdays and Fridays. They have the Florida Lottery, the Mega Millions, whichever ones we decide to participate in, why not? Then we say partnership with them. They continue to draw their winning lottery numbers. And in the Bahamas we can sell tickets just as they do for in the, in the current web system. They don't draw the numbers. While some of them now have their own balls, would they draw that? I draw every 30 minutes, 10 minutes, which. Wow, that's a lot, y'. [01:02:41] Speaker D: All. [01:02:41] Speaker B: Y' all be playing numbers every 10 minutes. That's crazy. I, I can't see myself lose. I don't like lose money, y' All I just get nervous. I used to have an account and I used to send my sister money when she used to live on the island. She must used to be spinning up a breeze on that. But she listening now too. So I know she killing herself laughing. Said had gambities. I can't take it. That's what I call it Gambitis. I can't take it because the second I lose Chris, the second I lose my hundred dollars and I think about the seafood boil I gotta buy with that. I done mad. But there are people that are going to do it. But this also opens up the market not only locally, but internationally as well. Because who said anything about. And this is where I want to bring the religious leaders in on this. Because there is pushback from them on this. While they accept monies currently revenue, a lot of them accept monies currently from gaming houses, operators and facilities. So if this money is such bad money and it taxes and does all these things to the people of your congregation, is this saying at least we getting some of it back now to give them? Because I personally feel that a lot of times the religious psychosis that our people is in is in the Bahamas prevents real progress in this country. Now my husband say, baby, you got to be careful when you say that. Because they could think you was the Antichrist. No, baby, I scored favorite child. But my mommy always say, God take away your sins and not your senses, right? And there is a way to do things. So if we see in other countries, these people are drawing these things because the casino people, they taking all the foreign money, all the USD that come in because bohemians can gamble in the, in the hotel casinos. They taking all the US money, the local operators taking all the local dollars. And of course they are paying their debt, they're paying their taxes. We're not saying these people aren't paying taxes, but we are saying that if we now in a national lottery. Now this is what I gathered from my research on social media and from you talking to me. If we now pool these resources and we say every time a visitor come over here, when they come on a cruise ships, all these 10 million tourists we bragging about, when they come on a cruise ship, you won't buy a lotto ticket. You could win in the Bahamas lottery might not win in paradise. Can you imagine a win in paradise campaign? You ain't talking about the just. You're not just catering to what they would say, the poor people who just trying to chase a dollar. You are now catering to people who also Want to invest in your economy, who want to see the Bahamas grow. And they say, man, I just buy in this. I really think I could win. But I just buy in this ticket because I believe the Win in Paradise campaign is something I can believe in and I can buy into. But we often see religious leaders coming to the forefront to condemn so heavily things. Instead of saying, hey, we want to get to the table to see how this isn't going to necessarily oppress our people. Because if we really want to talk about some deeper issues. And I see the phone lines lighting up, but I have to get this out, y'. All. You're driving Rolls voice, Mercedes Benz G wagon, bloody shoes at the bottom where they say, juski did a skit say these? Christine, Louis Vuitton say, I wearing red bottoms because I walk in the blood of Jesus and your members. The soup kitchen can't even stay open every day. You want benevolent offering? Would my husband say, that's the love offering, baby. Say, that's the beloved offering. In different churches, they call it different things. You know, my husband, he didn't read them, but the man was supposed to be a pastor. He don't read the Bible in notes. So he, he literally explained to me when I said, baby, this is some of the things I want to talk about. He explained to me how people misconstrue scripture and make certain things they, they pick out lines in, in. And the Bible is the biggest of itself because when you go to Old Testament versus the New Testament, there's something there for everybody, right? But they pick out these things to attack who they want to attack or issues that they feel like attacking when we have certain things going on right in the church and under their noses. And this is why I say a tale of two rallies. The church leaders, the religious leaders and the lotto, right? All of these things. How are you rallying people together in church and state? How do they coexist and live so that as a people, as a nation under God, how are we going to prosper to that loftier goal? Because if you keep taxing the same people who ain't got no money out of their house and home, only you could be able to afford a G wagon and drive around and walk around in your bloody shoes and everything else, what the rest of us are going to do? Because after I've sown my seed, you want your first fruit, you want your tithe, your offering off of my $250 minimum wage job. 260 now, 8. But Thomas, you take out an IB man, you only can't own 250 at that and sow all this seed. Trust in God. Mind you, I'm trusting God for this. But as my mother always reminds me, God takes away your seed sins and not your senses. There is a reason why you have free will and thought to think, to be logical and rational about the decisions you make. And that's where I want to get you in on this national conversation. Two rallies. The tale of two rallies. The religious leaders and a national lottery. Good afternoon. Call out. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [01:09:05] Speaker F: Greetings to all. [01:09:06] Speaker B: Greetings. [01:09:08] Speaker E: Hello. [01:09:08] Speaker B: Hi. I'm here with you. [01:09:09] Speaker D: Yes. [01:09:10] Speaker F: I want to address this thing in the news. You heard just now. Right. Okay. See what I know. Lottery is right. Lottery numbers, they are state that the good practices, best practices or democratic practices. They are state run, not privately run. Private. It's illegal to do a private lottery in the United States States. There should have been illegal here. That was. That was the issue with the referendum we had. It was. There was a conflict of interest to be a private lottery and a state lottery. And you got it. Nothing is rational to us. You understand me? So that is the issue. There should not be a private lottery. The private lottery should cease. You see, in this webshop thing. Lottery is not a webshop thing. You understand me? It could be what you call it on the web, on international web. You understand? You could buy it on the web. You understand? I'm saying internationally, anybody could buy it. But it should be a Bahamas national lottery. [01:10:17] Speaker E: All right? [01:10:18] Speaker F: And see the issue is the web shop was a cover. The name webshop is not. Is web shop was a cover for that illegal. Illegal gambling. You see, that's how they was able to get away because they call it a webshop where you could go and just use the Internet, use the web to do anything. That was their cover. You understand me? So, so Jabba talk about all the government become be the 9th Rev Shop. They should be the only webshop. And the f. And I'm talking. But, but they're only gonna do one ball, the big ball. They should be doing all the balls. Because the balls, when you throw the balls, that's is numbers. That's lottery. You understand me? So the Bahamas government should not be. [01:11:03] Speaker E: They should. That's enough. [01:11:04] Speaker F: And that's. That's not constitution. That's legislation. You understand me? They should make that illegal and bring the national lottery than it should be. Come on now. Shabbat. What they could do. They. They spinning you Understand me? [01:11:18] Speaker L: They. [01:11:18] Speaker K: They might. [01:11:19] Speaker F: They could be rolling dice. They could be doing that on the rim. That stuff would. That's the gambling houses. That's what they are, gambling houses. [01:11:27] Speaker B: Thank you so much for your contribution, Carla. And I want to extend that right. This text says, good show. Don't churches sell raffle tickets for fundraising? Isn't that the same thing as gambling? Well, blow me down, y'. All is won't come to me. I swear to you. I've seen like within is like 10 of them have an affair and everybody's selling raffle tickets in boxes. Every church, God got some raffle. Aren't I waiting for you to pull a winning number out there, a winning ticket. You spin that barrel around and I waiting for you. I buy in 10 books because I am hoping to win. So then if it's so immoral, why your church always having some. Some raffle something as a fundraising initiative. But you don't want to take this same fundraising initiative to benefit all bohemians. And this is what comes with me and a lot of religious leaders. You cherry pick what is right and it's good in certain instances when it's beneficial and it suits you, but is bad in other instances and it doesn't benefit people. Let's also talk about the labor conditions outside of Sebastian's shared interest in Island Luck, own foundation and all of these things, because he is one of those persons that you see out there constantly giving, donating, even the big bang that's. That's held every year, that's become a yearly staple since they started. You'll constantly see him giving back what the other rest of regulated people in the game with these licenses doing. I don't see no bunch of big out of foundations, no bunch of soup kitchens, no bunch of. No bunch of feeding the people. No bunch of. I don't see no other. I don't know, somebody gotta call in the show and tell me, are they in partnership with own, are the other seven or six operators in partnership with Mr. Basienne doing these types of things in the community so that we can say that, okay, the monies can go to education, can go to this, can go to that. And then again, it's selective where they decide and who they decide to these initiatives should benefit and what the parameters are. So if a school is needed, they don't have to do that. But a national lottery will get us to the place where you, me, the Bahamian people decide that, hey, we need the hospital to be staffed, to have equipment. We raised 50 million this year and this just a figure I throwing out. 50 million this year from that. 10 million for the hospital, 10 million for new schools, 10 million for family island development. We stipulate what the parameters are for that for us to really benefit from it. And then another thing I want to talk about some of these gaming operators in terms of the working conditions. These people don't get lunch break. That is something that when I told somebody I was talking about it and they worked at a number number house they said the people that make us work sometimes we don't even have somebody to relieve us. I have the resignation letter of somebody that resigned from one of the gaming operators and it almost brought me to tears because the young lady stated in her resignation letter that she caught a UTI because there was nobody to lying long or people trying to play number. Nobody to relieve her as a cashier, only her in the one web shop. Nobody to relieve her as a cashier. The working conditions of some of these places is poor. It is poor. You don't even give your people lunch break. What type of human beings are you where they don't even whether it's paid or unpaid, the people need a break. They should have a break within a 15 minute break. Within at least within every hour to relieve themselves. Some of them work eight hours straight without even being able to relieve themselves yet alone get a decent meal. Some of them oftentimes when I walked into those establishments having to transfer money or do some transaction for somebody, I see them sitting at the, at the desk trying to eat their food, take your number and count money. And then you become so impatient with them. This is the challenges. So while you're speaking about all the highs, let's talk about some of the lows that the people that are underneath you making these millions of dollars are experiencing. And a lot of them ain't making above minimum wage. Let's talk about that. Ain't make it much above minimum wage. After you then sit the people there catching UTIs and stab them all day like a slave. [01:16:59] Speaker I: But. [01:16:59] Speaker B: But this is what we have dealing with. I'm gonna get back to the phone lines. Calling you live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [01:17:06] Speaker L: Good afternoon. How are you Gabby? [01:17:08] Speaker B: I'm good. How are you? [01:17:11] Speaker L: Excessively long, but nonetheless I'm fine. [01:17:13] Speaker B: Okay, you write, you write them down so you, you could. [01:17:15] Speaker L: Yeah, I already wrote down. I already trust my head more than enough time. [01:17:19] Speaker B: Okay. [01:17:20] Speaker L: And so I'm just going to read through very quickly. [01:17:21] Speaker G: Okay. [01:17:23] Speaker L: I'm going back to a caller before your break, before Your news break who identified two words, time shift. Those two words were the only two things that I agreed with or what they said. During the 60s, 70s, 80s and part of the 90s, in my view, there was a mix of feel good times because we needed change from the minority rule to minority rule government, right? And of course there was a platform download of education, nationwide defense force, central bank, the Social Security through nib, the dehumanization, central focus, et cetera, right? And then we came into the 1992 election that was not nowhere near on the level of the shift that we experienced in 67, 62 and 67, right? However, for the individuals who were part of the splinter breakout party from the PLP who formed the FNM along with those who were part of the minority rule government, that was certainly a major paradigm shift for them. After not seeing government for 25 years as a result, right? Bahamian people were drunk in that spirit of partying and having a good time. However, the Bahamian people quickly got back to focus in the 1997 general election in my view. Hence, we haven't seen no government Repeat as a two term consecutive government since 1992. Because the focus has gone from feeling good, partying, getting drunk and having a good time to what's in it for me. The humans have been tired of sitting back watching the minorities in this country benefit from the great wealth generated in this country while they go home to empty cupboards, empty refrigerators and broke bank accounts. After all the drinking rum, after all the partying. And so I slightly move away from the position that you were presenting to this, to this. It is for the government of the day who the people are looking to to demonstrate that they aboard the meat, they aboard the vegetables, the sides, etc. To the table. It is for the opposition to demonstrate that they are prepared to do what is necessary to empower behemoths to protect opportunities in this country. The best of opportunities in particular for the immins. And if the government of the day failed to do that, no matter what presentation is presented, no matter how much partying or how bright the glitz and glam is, you ain't getting a second term. That's how it's been over the last 30 years in our country. Let me jump to this thing with this national lottery and then I'll end right here, right? About 20 years ago, Yabi enter the nation. A polling was requested, right, by a political arm of the Progressive Liberal Party. I served on that committee, provided that information almost 20 years or more ago to the governing party at the time. [01:20:24] Speaker H: Right. [01:20:25] Speaker L: Let me tell you, Gavin, more Bahamians in that poll were interested in the national lottery than in the web shop. Now, granted, I understand that there's benefits to be had and to be considered with both spectrums, right? Certainly revenue protection, certainly employment protection for those working in the industry. National lottery will also offer the very same. I don't know on what level the national lottery will offer the same in terms of employment, but certainly in terms of revenue generation. The national lottery stands to change, to outperform the webbing industry as it relates to benefits directly to the corpus of the government. Because the government on one fortune as it relates to web shops are only benefiting through taxes. However, the major parts of whatever is being generated does not go to government corpus, but through a national lottery. By all means and any means considerable. Crazy or not, the majority of the benefits to be derived in the national lottery will certainly go to the coffers of the, of the, of the treasury. How that is managed is another question. [01:21:38] Speaker B: Another question. [01:21:40] Speaker L: How the national debt is addressed is another question. How social platforms are addressed with that revenue generation is another question I'm ending right now. [01:21:49] Speaker B: Okay, go ahead. [01:21:49] Speaker L: Right. And so my caution, My caution. My caution, as we are in the height of the election spirit right now, my caution to the government is to be mindful of these things because you're either sending the message to the bohemian people that you want to maintain status quo, which is not to the benefit of the Bahamian people, or you want to break the bar of status quo is necessary. Even making hard decisions at the end of the day. [01:22:15] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:22:16] Speaker L: So that the majority can benefit. [01:22:17] Speaker E: Thank you. [01:22:17] Speaker B: Thank you so much, Anton. I actually appreciated your contribution on that because you have to be careful. The message that you're sending to the bohemian people when you say that if we. It's a good idea, but if we implement it, our people are so corrupt, they're so dumb, they're so slow that we cannot find a system that works. So then if we have the budgets for consultants and for people that could come in and say, this has worked in my country for now 50, over 50 years, this has gained us X amount of revenue. This is how it started. This is where we've grown to. Now, I don't mind. I don't think the bohemian people mind paying consultants to do that. Chris, if you tell me I gotta pay this consultant to come here for about two years, three years to help with the effective rollout of this, this is what it's gonna cost us in the short term, but Bahamians after that, while they're here, they're training Bohemians. They're showing Bohemians how this can work. And they fully turn over the management of it to Bohemians. And it's up to us now what we do with that system. I think Bohemians would agree to it, man. But don't tell us that we so dumb, we so stupid, and we so corrupt, that ain't nothing good here. Good. Good work. Good afternoon, caller. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [01:23:39] Speaker E: How you doing? [01:23:40] Speaker B: I'm good. How are you? [01:23:42] Speaker E: Let me just make this quick, right? One point, right? I think that we should have a national lottery, right? Based on the fact that, remember back in the day when you should go, or even now, I mean, you should jump on the flight, go to Miami, right? And then you put it. You put. You put in your six numbers. [01:23:57] Speaker L: Yeah. [01:23:57] Speaker D: Huh. [01:23:58] Speaker E: And then you. You wait by the tv, right? I said, please, Lord, please, if you let me win this, I. [01:24:03] Speaker G: Sure. [01:24:04] Speaker B: But guess what? How much Bohemians have already won, though. There have been a number of Bahamians that have won the Florida lottery, right? [01:24:11] Speaker E: Yeah. So that's why. That's my point right there. What happened is the three ball and four ball would buy your groceries, but that one would take you off the plantation. Real quick. Second, what I want make a note of. Right. Okay. I think it's sort of an insult to saying that. That we in the Bahamas can't handle the lottery rate based on the fact that we remember we were about to. Back in the day, we were number one in the banking industry. So for a small, small country like us, right. Why are we only the pebble in the ocean? If we could be number one, the banking industry, we most definitely could run [01:24:47] Speaker B: still our number two industry, banking and finance, still number two in the Bahamas. [01:24:51] Speaker E: All right, But I see it from it. See, you have to look at it from his perspective, too, right? If you have a lemonade stand on side of the street, right? You want anyone else have a lemonade stand? My point is, it's counterproductive to spark it. [01:25:09] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:25:09] Speaker E: It's counterproductive. Think about it. [01:25:12] Speaker B: Thank you so much for your contribution, Carla. Listen, if it's good, if it's good for the Bahamas, it's good for the people. It's good for the people of the Bahamas. Anything that our populace is so small. I was saying last week when Goth Carl and I sat down on his show along with Leslie Miller, and tune in tomorrow as well, Garth will be hosting But I'll be sitting in studio with him and Kyle as well and we'll be chopping it up about whatever God wants to talk about at the time. But I was saying that when they talk about bohemians migrating and don't start this immigration talk because they seen what the show about. I just using this to draw a point. We have such a small populace that if we migrate that a few of us migrate to the us, to Canada, to the uk it doesn't make a dent in their population. There's nowhere that they're calling little Bahama town, little Bahamas, mini Bahamas. But when you go in countries, other countries around the world, you could find little Chinatown because it's millions of them. So a couple hundred thousand of them go somewhere, they start a whole new civilization. You see little ladies, little Jamaica, you see it all over because it's so many of them that they can start a populate, they can start influence the culture elsewhere. It's not that many of us. And I'm talking about, I'm not talking about people that got our passports to go and, and go be with the original people who they don't even recognize that they have a Bahamian passport. They only got it because they knew it could get them where they wanted to go. I'm talking about the people who the Bahamas knows, they know nowhere else. Born here, bred here, everything. It's so little of us that we go in a group of us go anywhere, we ain't making a dent. We can take the whole Grand Bahama and go somewhere and we're not making that much of a dent. Where, for example, in Miami where you have people in the airport speaking Spanish, because the Cuban culture has influenced that part of the United States so much so that an English speaking country speaks Spanish at the airport. And so why is it that we can't get enough Bahamians wealthy enough through various initiatives that we are now important laborers? Not necessarily having to give them our citizenships, but giving them residencies, work permits, other things. Because we are so great and focused on running all of these multimillion dollar corporations and businesses, whether, even if it's just, even on smaller scale, owners of landscaping companies, all these things, everyone is the owner of some portion of this economy that we have to be like countries like Singapore that import Malaysian and Venezuelan workers. That is where I envision my Bahamas. And that is what I want to hear when I go to these rallies. I want to hear the red meat along with the vegetables. I want the coleslaw, the potato salad. I want A bohemian meat. I want a balanced diet. I want you to make me feel excited about the possibilities of the Bahamas and where we can be. So while you say these things, you need to follow them up with pr. You need to get on the radio stations, you need to get on the TVs, you need to get on the social media. You need to engage the influencers to push your messages. Because if you could build. If you say, like I heard at the PLP rally, if you say you could build this, these communities, that behemoths have been locked out out west, and you say that this land, this. This board is going to, you know, help Bahamians live up to the standard. You need to get your PR machinery behind that, because that's something I want to hear. If you say this national lottery is going to empower me and lift up my children's children, you need to get your machinery and your messaging behind that, because that's something I want to hear. And then we can have a rally of, listen, boy, these some good ideas, but where are the people rallying behind? We have to go to a commercial break. I see the phone lines lit up. Y' all stay there. I'm gonna go straight to the phone lines when we get back right after this. [01:29:54] Speaker I: So tired of going round and round. Stop the world and let me off. [01:30:09] Speaker E: New roads and airports are connecting our islands. Energy reform is bringing electricity prices down. While young Bahamians are stepping up, gaining new skills for new opportunities. Respect for workers, support for entrepreneurs. We're modernizing energy and infrastructure across our islands and preparing Bahamians to succeed in a new economy. Transformations this big take time. Let's choose progress paid for by the plp. [01:30:44] Speaker B: Struggling to find your financial rhythm. Make that move to fidelity and let us help you orchestrate your financial goals into perfect harmony with free financial coaching sessions. Make that move today. [01:30:54] Speaker C: Call 356-7764, Fidelity. We're good for you. [01:31:07] Speaker B: Can you believe this? We are now the producer patrol queens of the neighborhood. We now lodge and in charge. So we need to check out what going on in everybody yard. What about that gun that we know that Junior and his homeboys just ran out. Can we report that, too? [01:31:20] Speaker C: Of course we can. [01:31:21] Speaker B: But we could be in deep trouble if they find out. We need to report what we see. Viola, when you call Crime Stoppers, they just answer your call in Miami. So then we can report everything. Guns, where they hiding the drugs, who shoot who, who part of which gang or who? Disturbing the peace with the loud music and the motorcycles. Then Our neighborhood will be the best in the Bahamas and everybody go wan come live here and then our house price will go up gal so what we waiting on? What's the number? [01:31:47] Speaker A: If you see something, say something. Let us all pitch in and stop the crime before it's your time. Call 328-8477 from Nassau or 242-300-8477 from the family Islands or text us through the crack crime Bahamas up stop the crime before it's your time. [01:32:03] Speaker J: Five years of pop rule. Are you better off today while you work? They've spent millions on taxpayer funded trips, a government funded luxury car and handed out hundreds of millions in no bid contracts. But for the rest of us, gas and groceries through the roof, vat on bread basket items, healthcare that is broken, portable and out of reach. And it's not just your wallet. For five years illegal immigrants have flooded our communities putting excessive pressure on our schools, our housing and our social services. As they flood in, Bahamian families fall behind under the F and M. There will be a change. The F and M has a plan to address the rising cost of living, secure our borders, protect Bahamians from illegal immigrants and fix our health care. Because the F and M knows our job is to work for you and not the few. This message was paid for and authorized by the Free National Movement. [01:33:02] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM, fresh news, smart talk all day. [01:33:19] Speaker B: 96.9 FM, Guardian Radio today. Listen, it's hot in here. Well it cold in here but you know I could bring the heat all day, every day. This is your station for fresh news smart talk all day. Listen, it's election season, election fever. Nomination day is tomorrow. I am advising the general public. Plan your routes early, plan ahead. They could be in your way, they could make you mad. They could have the motorcades. They got 10,000 people behind them and you could be upset for a bit. Call your boss now and tell them you're coming to work at least after 10 or so or you ain't coming in or you just need to plan to leave out by 6, around 6am Because I see a lot of motorcades, a lot of people starting at about 8 o' clock in the morning. That's peak high traffic time. So motorists be advised. I see the phone lines lit up and we don't have much time left in the show and I really want us to end this strong. The good thing about it is the day after election I'm gonna have the post analysis for you all because Gabby Got a Wednesday show. So we're gonna have the post election analysis tomorrow. Like I said, Guardian Radio today with host Scott Rose, Borrow and myself will be on there and his guest as well, Kyle Dean. We'll be chopping it up about whatever he wants to talk about. So you want to stay locked in as well to Guardian tomorrow. You want to listen to all the Guardian shows because of course all the hosts bring a different point of view, a different flair, and they really educate and inform you about a lot of things. And of course we're inviting all the political candidates to book their slots on any of the shows that they wish and feel like they want to get their messages out there. And the number to call to be a sponsor to put in an ad or for an interview appearance is 3022300. Of course, the invitation is always open to all. I'm gonna go straight to the phone lines now. Good afternoon, you're live on Guardian Radio Day with Gabby. [01:35:36] Speaker G: Good afternoon. Gabby, you finally made it eight I, you, you, you, are you sure you know preacher band, you know preacher say big I am now. [01:35:44] Speaker B: And then you go, listen, no man, I, I, I only seen you all once a week now. [01:35:50] Speaker G: But anyhow, listen, I want to time in this thing about gambling and Christians [01:35:56] Speaker E: and the church and whatnot. [01:35:57] Speaker G: This, I'm a Christian by choice. [01:35:59] Speaker B: Don't send me no raffle book. [01:36:02] Speaker G: But I made the choice to accept Jesus Christ as my Lord. That was my choice. You know, the Bible, as you know, is written in two parts. The Old Testament, the New Testament. The Old Testament was written to the Jews, basically. The New Testament was written to the Christian church for the most part. These are instructions. If you read from the book of Romans almost down to the end, it's the instructions that were given by Paul and Peter and James. [01:36:38] Speaker B: I'm glad you said that. [01:36:39] Speaker D: I just want to let us to the church. [01:36:41] Speaker B: Hold on one second for me, caller. Carla, I want you to listen to me one second because I'm glad you brought up the apostle Paul. I was having this discussion with my husband and he said that most people don't listen to the words of Jesus. The same people who claim to follow Jesus Christ listen to the words of the apostle Paul, but don't listen to the actual words that said that Jesus said. And this is what was said. They actually listened to the persons who wrote various conflicting views from the Bible. So I just wanted to to plug that in there. The fact that you brought that up in terms of the letters to the church, are you right because not all of the things. When you listen to the actual. When you read the actual parts, the quote unquote parts that were said that Jesus said, thus said the Lord. A lot of them conflict with the things that the Apostle Paul has said as well. [01:37:41] Speaker G: But I don't know about the contradiction. I don't want to get into that. [01:37:46] Speaker B: Yeah, but we ain't gonna get into that. [01:37:47] Speaker G: That's a complex, you know, Because I believe the Bible doesn't. You have to compare scripture with Scripture. But the tenets of it is that these instructions were given to the church. We as Christians, we ought to be influencers, okay? I can't convince anybody to do what I want them to do. It must be done freely. And so Jesus said, you know what? Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render the things to God that are God's. You know, we call, we say that we are Christian nations. [01:38:23] Speaker D: I don't. [01:38:24] Speaker G: We're not a Christian nation. No nation in this world is a Christian nation, okay? The United States is not a Christian nation. The Bahamas is not a Christian nation. You got some Christians in the nation, but we are not a Christian nature. We got something on paper that's saying something, but because you think in the Christian nations, we should have this whole bunch of corruption, we should have murders, we should have all of the things that the Bible tells us not to do. So we are not a Christian nation. America is not a Christian nation. They go bombing up people indiscriminately. They go and they steal people land, they enslave people for hundreds of years. The Christian nation, things like that. Would Jesus do something like that? So at the end of the day, Paul said, you know what? We all must make a choice. We all must give an account to God for ourselves. Our duty as Christians is to be the influencer, okay? To influence them. The early church, the Bible said that people watched the early Christians and they saw that they were different and they came over. They weren't force. [01:39:33] Speaker E: They saw it. [01:39:34] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you so much, Carla. Thank you so much for your contribution. I don't know what happened just now. Producer, can you patch through the next call? Go ahead, call your live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [01:39:47] Speaker H: Yes, good day, Gabby. [01:39:48] Speaker B: How you doing? [01:39:49] Speaker H: Yeah, well, you know, they feed us a lot of things, but my mother was a waitress. And if I get the salad from a lady, I eating it. You know what happened just on the weekend with this national, with this national lottery thing, I think the proposal stops short because it should play national lottery and Gaming, because taking it over and dealing with it. And as some of the callers said, you know, we just have to follow what they do in those other states because people we've been, we've been playing these games represents Florida and all the rest of them came on board over 30 years ago, you see, so they, they get a hit because when we, when that, when that rock was thrown for National Lottery on the weekend, you see who came out and start screaming. The leader of the Bonobo party, right? And then you have Mr. Bastian comes out this morning trying to, they just think like, oh, he's such a genius. But if he became such an authority and a genius, where, where did he get his, where did he get his training? Who was his consultant? How much did it cost them to get into the game? But you understand what I'm saying? [01:41:08] Speaker B: Yes, I'm, I'm listening to you. You just go ahead with your points. [01:41:11] Speaker H: Yeah, yeah. The point is they want to hold on to it. But Mr. Flower said months ago, last year or year before last, you don't have a problem with National Lottery, but the FM has to take it the full name, because the benefit, like we say, is for the Bahamian people. Now, back in Harlem, New York, in the beginning of the century, Stephanie Sinclair, who was from Martinique, a black French speaker woman, was running the numbers game. And they, they call it a Madam [01:41:48] Speaker B: Queen or the Queen of Numbers. [01:41:50] Speaker H: You see, it's, it's history. And unfortunately, elsewhere, Bumpy Johnson took over. Even Al Capone, they trained him in 1928. I'm in Chicago to be, to be enforcer. And that's not a number rocket, you [01:42:06] Speaker D: know what I'm saying? [01:42:07] Speaker H: So this number thing isn't new. So like, like they say, being stupid and they want to hold on to it, but we have to do what [01:42:15] Speaker E: we have to do. [01:42:16] Speaker H: So. [01:42:17] Speaker B: Oh, I think we lost you, Carla, but thank you so much. I, I got the, the gist of what you're saying. I think we lost you on that line. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [01:42:27] Speaker F: Hey, Gabby. [01:42:28] Speaker E: Good afternoon. [01:42:28] Speaker B: Hi, Gabby. [01:42:31] Speaker K: I'd like just like the piggyback on the previous caller. I love the history lesson he gave of this numbers and the gambling and all that stuff. The origins and who were involved. Very important that we know the historical value and history of where this stuff originated from. Here's the thing that really irks a lot of persons when you talk about greed. Greed is something that once it's in your heart, sometimes it's very hard to get out of your heart. I mean, when the illegal numbers racket in this country became legal, one of the first things that they did was the government. Through the government, they tried to kick the door. In fact, they took the door and slammed the door closed with the indication that it should be limited to a certain amount of persons. And they have a moratorium for so long, nobody knows how long the monitorium is for when they're going to lift it. That is the first suspicion that came up out of this whole entire thing. The second part is the government is so complicit into this whole thing, because here it is, we're talking about this thing went to a referendum whether they wanted the national lottery or whether the gaming houses. And you can tell me only six persons are qualified in this country to hold gaming licenses. Six or seven person. And then you ask yourself, out of the six or seven, how much have they really, truly contributed back to the public society? You hear nothing about them making a donation to any Spartan activity to send our athletes off. [01:44:09] Speaker B: They say they give you all 50 million. And I'm going to quote what Mr. Basian said. He said about $50 million in revenue. The government are made in taxes from it that you. That the government, when I say you all the government needs to reallocate those resources to funding education and funding sports and. Or funding whatever programs it is that they want, because they already pay you 50 million in taxes. [01:44:35] Speaker K: But Gabby, I understand all that, you know, that is. That is the monies that was allocated through the government through tax taxing them. But I'm talking about them, the agency specifically that makes millions and millions and millions of the back of Bahamians besides Sebast Bastian, who appears to be giving something back. What about the rest of them? I haven't heard anything from the rest of them. [01:45:00] Speaker B: That's why I said if we take Sebastian out of the equation, would we view the gaming industry the way we view it now, with all these charitable contributions and all this investing back into society through own, through Isla Cares foundation, through all of these other things. If we remove him out of this equation, what do we have left with everybody just banking their dollars and sinking everything? They may put on one little party if they see Sebastian too hot and crazy. They say, okay, now we gotta throw on one little. One little free event. Now you're too. So they could say we doing something too. [01:45:37] Speaker K: Yeah, that's really crazy. Gabby. My two last points so I could get off the line. You talked. Then we got to look at the whole aspect of you talk about the church as well as we are practicing. Many of us are practicing Christians. You know, we believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ. I always believe that, hey, if I see my shepherd rolling a Rolls Royce and the rest of his flock, they are still rolling the little, the little Honda or they can't even get clothes on their backs or something, then something is wrong. Because I, I believe prosperity goes where prosperity lies. If the pastor can elevate, then the membership should also elevate. Yes, and we don't have to see that. So my last point here, so I can get off the line is that, you know, if the national lottery. I have no, no, no inkling about nothing against the national lottery. If the intent is to bring about all of these things for to move the country forward. In fact, the gaming industry, if you really look at it in closing when you go to throw your balls and stuff, either throw the balls in Miami, Orlando, Texas and California and so on so forth. So what is, what is the deal with us not being able then to. If it is there is the desire of the people to have a national lottery, give the people their national lottery, you know, and I'll end on that. [01:47:10] Speaker E: Thanks for this. [01:47:11] Speaker B: Thank you so much. Carlos. I want to get these last two cards in before we have to run out of here. And a couple text in. Go ahead. You're live on Guardian Radio today with Gabby. [01:47:21] Speaker E: Good morning Ms. Any Esther in quest [01:47:24] Speaker B: you trying to remarry me? My husband listening he like that at all. [01:47:28] Speaker E: I can't see. I. I blind. So when I listen to the TV last night, my daughter is telling me this beautiful lady and. And I say you might not be the only beautiful lady. I said, but that's mercy with Gandhi. Did you be into the rally last night? [01:47:41] Speaker B: Yes, I went. I did. [01:47:43] Speaker E: I wonder if that's you. They say this beautiful lady. I don't know if you wearing a dress or what but Anton say something about the government not continuing from in 92. But I think Anton you meant to say in 97. That's the last time we do. Yeah, the repeat or we react them [01:48:00] Speaker D: but otherwise and we had the 4 [01:48:01] Speaker B: o' clock hour and I do, I do promise to get in this next caller right before we go Papa. So wrap it up quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. You we lost him. Okay, so I promise this in because my producer then say we had the 4 o' clock hour. I got two minutes to run through a couple texts and we got to get out of here. So call her. You got the last 30 seconds. Go ahead. Good afternoon. [01:48:25] Speaker E: Just a couple of points. First of all, no idea what a non binding referendum is and I voted in the referendum. I dipped my finger in ink, so that's supposed to be legal. Then afterwards they came up with the terminology non binding. Secondly, if these numbers houses are legalized, how is it that they are selling other countries numbers, lottery numbers and not sending a dollar or a dime to these countries? So how is that legal? And thirdly, when the Bahamians speak, why is it that when we said that we wanted a national lottery, we didn't get it? And fourthly, in closing, how many new millionaires in this country could have already been created if we had a national lottery? Thank you. [01:49:12] Speaker B: Thank you so much. Carla. Listen, you are calling in. I appreciate you. I really want to end this show though on a high note and I want to tell you that prosperity goes where it flows, baby. There could be a prosperity, a prosperous Bahamas for us all. I want you to get engaged. Nomination days tomorrow. Look in your constituency and see who are the candidates offering themselves. Ask them the hard questions when they come to your door, listen and tune into the rallies. 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