Guardian Radio Today - August 26 2025

August 27, 2025 01:37:28
Guardian Radio Today - August 26 2025
Guardian Radio Today
Guardian Radio Today - August 26 2025

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[00:00:01] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent. [00:00:07] Speaker B: Interactive and engaging conversations. [00:00:10] Speaker C: 96.9 FM. [00:00:13] Speaker A: The views and opinions of the hosts and guests are their own and do. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Not necessarily reflect the views of the. [00:00:20] Speaker A: Management and staff of Guardian Radio. Guardian Radio today is brought to you. [00:00:39] Speaker C: By a Capron International Academy Alive Burger King, Carey's Fabric and Uniform Store, the. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Cleveland Clinic, Commonwealth Bank, Epic Battery, Markhouse. [00:00:48] Speaker C: Pizza, the Shoe Depot, Printmasters and Ron's Electric Motors. [00:00:57] Speaker B: And welcome, welcome, welcome to Guardian Radio Today. I AM your host, Dr. Cleveland W. Eneas III, also known as Kahun Ankusara. This is the August 26th edition of today's show and I'm very, very happy to. To have those of you who are listening, I just want to say, you know, when I was doing the. The sponsors, that's a Catherine Kiafran International Academy. Yeah, a wonderful school, Wonderful school. Today we have, as always, a special show lined up for you. You know, there's a lot going on in the country today and we want to make sure on Guardian Radio today that we have an opportunity to contextualize a lot of the things that we're social media in the news or just in the streets. And so today we're talking music and tourism. My special guest today is none other than Mr. Freddy Munnings Jr. I want him to introduce himself because we have a lot of international listeners too. I send my link out all over the world. So I'm sure there are people who don't know you. So just tell people who you are, introduce yourself and then we're going to dive right into it. [00:02:15] Speaker C: Good morning, Bahamas. Good morning listening audience around the world. It's a pleasure for me to be here and I will introduce myself by saying I am the surrogate uncle of Dr. Uncle. Yes, I know him as Trey. So anybody who know him as Trey got to know him. [00:02:37] Speaker B: It's my Uncle Freddie. That's right. [00:02:40] Speaker C: So that for me is enough of an introduction for the purposes of this show because they know your. I come from a legacy, as does Dr. Eneas uncle. His father, his grandfather and his great grandfather were pillars in this country starting in the Baintown area. And coincidentally, a part of my legacy has base in the Baintown area in that the Cat and Fiddle nightclub, which was one of the foremost entertainment establishments in the history of the Bahamas and I dare say the western region during the period of the 50s, 60s and early 70s. My late father, Freddie Bunnings Sr. Is busy along with my beautiful mother who we lost about three or two years ago. Mavis Farrington. So I'm their son, and they have always taught me to be independent, but for truth. They've taught me to emancipate my mind from mental slavery. And throughout my entire professional life and my adult life, I try to speak truth to power, and that's why I'm here. And I guess that's an introduction to who I am. [00:04:05] Speaker B: That's beautiful. That's beautiful. [00:04:07] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:04:07] Speaker B: So, Uncle Freddie, you have been integral in my life. I'm also a musician. I'm a percussionist, and I'm learning other instruments. But you were instrumental. I'm starting to show this way because a lot of what I understand about the history of the music industry, if you will, in this country, I've learned a lot from you. I've had the opportunity to work under the late, great Charles Carter. [00:04:40] Speaker C: Yes. [00:04:41] Speaker B: I've had the opportunity to work directly with Uncle Ronnie Butler. [00:04:46] Speaker C: Yes. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Right. When he worked along with me at island fm. And if we don't talk about this story about how the musician. I remember one time I was told, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that the musicians, they had more clout than the politicians. Oh. In this country. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Oh. [00:05:07] Speaker C: Until recent times. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Until recent times. Right. And I'm saying all of this because, again, I want to contextualize the conversation based on what we've been hearing in the news for the past couple of days or whatever. [00:05:19] Speaker C: Yes. [00:05:20] Speaker B: There was a time when over the hill, as we know it, was littered with. With nightclubs, with musicians, with really homegrown Bahamian music where people could come and actually listen. You could make a living as a musician. [00:05:37] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:05:38] Speaker B: That tied into the politics of the country. I want you to just guide the conversation a little bit. First and foremost, just to contextualize. Take us back to that point in time where you could be a musician and make a living. And the politicians who couldn't go into the hotels would utilize spaces like the Cat and Fiddle nightclub to have conventions, to help us to gain majority rule, to help us to gain independence before they could even go into the hotels. I want to know about that time just to start this conversation. [00:06:11] Speaker C: I would be very happy to engage that conversation on. Cool. But let me, if I may. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:19] Speaker C: Introduce a concept, please. And to do that, we're going to go back to the beginning of the Western world story. [00:06:28] Speaker B: All right. [00:06:30] Speaker C: There is a book called Christopher Columbus and the African Holocaust, the Slavery and the Rise of European Capitalism by Dr. John Hennick Clark. [00:06:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:06:45] Speaker C: You know that name? [00:06:46] Speaker B: Well, yes. John Henry Clark. [00:06:47] Speaker C: And I don't want to get too far off base. Yeah. And go too far off topic, but I think it's important. [00:06:53] Speaker B: It's the wider context in perspective. Come on, now. Yes. Yes. [00:06:58] Speaker C: If I go forward, I die. If I go backward, I die. I will go forward and die in dignity. [00:07:08] Speaker A: Wow. [00:07:09] Speaker C: That's an African proverb. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Wow. [00:07:12] Speaker C: Another quote. You cannot understand world history without understanding the central role of African history. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:07:21] Speaker C: We got to know our history. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:23] Speaker C: The late Frederick Douglass once said, if you do not learn the lessons of the past, you will continue to repeat the class. In other words, if you don't know your history, you're going to continue to make the same mistakes. And the late Marcus Garvey said, if a people without a history is like a tree without a root, the root nourishes the tree. And if you don't know your history. Uncle. And that's why I wanted to start at that place. Because the big problem in our country, many of us do not know from whence we have come. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah. I agree. [00:08:01] Speaker C: We don't know our history. When I was growing up as a boy, long before you even was born, we were taught European history. They taught us everything about Henry VIII and about Crean Victoria and the Magna Carta, but not one utterance about African history other than we were slaves. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Wow. [00:08:26] Speaker C: They did not teach us about Timbuktu. They did not teach us about Omhaptep. They did not teach us about the universities of Africa. They did not teach about the kings and the queens of whom we are direct descendants. They did not teach us that Aristotle and Plato and the sat at the feet. [00:08:54] Speaker B: That's right. [00:08:54] Speaker C: Of the African sages. Not until I was a sophomore in university at Florida Memorial Now University, that they didn't even know there was such a thing as African history. [00:09:08] Speaker B: Wow. [00:09:09] Speaker C: Came across a book called It Came Before Columbus by Ivan Van Sertiman. [00:09:15] Speaker B: Yes. [00:09:15] Speaker C: And here he told us, scientifically showed us that Africans were traversing these waters long before Christopher Columbus. [00:09:25] Speaker B: That's right. [00:09:26] Speaker C: Thousands of years. If I may. You look at the Mayans in Mexico, you look at the. The works and the traverses of. [00:09:36] Speaker A: Abu. [00:09:36] Speaker C: Bakr, and you would know that they were here long before. Just look off the coast of Bimini, you will see Bimini Road. You will see the remains of the African genius still existing here in the Bahamas. They say it's the lost Atlantis. So I wanted to say that before I talk about what you've asked me. [00:09:55] Speaker B: To talk about, that's powerful. [00:09:57] Speaker C: We got to know Our history. And so let's move forward to the contemporary history of which you speak. But let's start around the 1830s or 1820s with Paul Black Kate, which is a popular name today, where this young girl, about 16 years old, resisted the slave masters on the Henry Morse plantation in Crooked Island. And because doing one of her whippings, they tore her gown. And they say, you got to repair your gown. So she told them, let the one who tore it repair it. 16 years old. And because of her resistance and her dignity. Remember we spoke about the dignity, they put her in the stockade and to keep her awake at night, the woman, I think her name was Helen Moss or something like that, they put pepper in her eyes to keep her awake so she wouldn't. So after about two or three weeks, she died because of the oppression and the punishment. Sixteen years old, little girl. This was one of the impetus that caused them to look at the slave trade in this part of the world. You would remember in 1807. Well, let's go back 1804, when the Haitians had the audacity to stand up and defeat the Europeans and became independent. And then in 1807, the British abolished the slave trade. They didn't abolish slavery at that time, the trade. And therefore, when they looked at this case, that was the impetus for them to look at the abolition of the slavery in this part of the world, we are told. And then in 1830, about Pompeii and Exuma stood up because they wanted to move him from Exuma to Cat island without permission, leave his family, etc. And he rebelled, along with about another 80 of his comrades on Exuma. And so because of that resistance, he was whipped and eventually oppressed. What am I saying? I am saying when you stand up, oh, boy. To be a man in our country, they oppress you, they blacklist you, and they cast you out as being a maverick. You experience it? I am experiencing it as we speak. [00:12:33] Speaker B: That's right. [00:12:33] Speaker C: And so let's talk about the contemporary history of the entertainment. In 1945, just around the time of the end of World War II, you know, there was still a very serious. Before that, around the 1920s, thereabouts, there was the prohibition in America. And so the Bahamas became very integral. Why? Because of the close proximity to America. So some very prominent people in our country, they were known as bootleggers. [00:13:06] Speaker A: That's correct. [00:13:07] Speaker C: They were running drugs in the form of liquor through the Bahamas. From then, some of them became very wealthy, still wealthy. I recall some of the names if somebody called and challenged me, because you recognize some of those names, became very, very wealthy. And they partnered with very wealthy folks out of the United States of America running those liquors back and forth. Eventually, people started to come to the Bahamas looking for those things that they couldn't find in America. And hence was the beginning. So they needed someplace to sleep, they needed someplace to eat. So the tourism industry began to take hold around the end of World War II. And then those obligakis realized there was money in trading between these two mega countries. One looking for drugs in the form of liquor, others looking for a good time. So those who came did not always come with their respective wives or husbands. They came with other people. So there was a lot of fraternizations going on, Frolicking, frolicking, if you will, in the Bahamas. And then they open a private casino called the Bahamian Club right there on Zabi, as I believe you may have been to Zabez. I know my daughter went to Zabez. [00:14:22] Speaker B: I used to swim there. [00:14:22] Speaker C: Used to swim there with Betty Cole and them. So my point is, the tourism started to take hold. And then Salam said, well, listen, you know, I could attract a lot of wealthy people by this tourism thing. And he then developed this model where they. He brought mega investors like E.P. taylor, for example, who developed life with Key and Wallace Groves and the like, who were looking at the Bahamas not only for tourism, but for gambling as well. [00:14:55] Speaker B: Right. [00:14:56] Speaker C: But they were getting some pushback on the gambling side. The tourism side was welcome. And so they open up these channels. And when these wealthy folks came to the island to invest their monies into the tourism product, certain people of the oligarch controlled certain aspects of that development. There were lawyers, accountants and financiers and insurance, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, real estate agents. And, you know, of some of them, some major still unsolved mysteries are circling some of them even today. So we started this thing called tourism. And because of the proximity and because of the natural beauty of the Bahamas, people started to come to the Bahamas. Now, when they came, we got an apartheid in the Bahamas. You know, in the early 40s and 50s, black people couldn't go in certain places, my Lord. Couldn't go in certain theaters, couldn't go into certain hotels other than to be domestics. And in some cases, they allowed some musicians, right? But when these highfalutin people came, they wanted to hear the big band sound, okay? Like Sami Dye and, you know, Count Basie. The big band sound. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:16:16] Speaker C: So One or two of us were able to go into those hotels to play that kind of society music while they had dinner. One of such group was the Rudy Williams Orchestra, which was a fantastic orchestra. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Okay? [00:16:30] Speaker C: But once they would finish around 10 o', clock, the guests would say, well, what do you think? They say, oh, well, we go over the hill to the nightclubs over the hill, but we want to go and hear what you do. And then what they found is the tourists who were in the hotels white, started to triculate over the hill because they wanted to hear this native goombe music, okay? And when they came over the hill, you know what they found? Places like the Silver Slipper, who was owned by Edgar Bain and Clarence Bain, the Bain Brothers. They found places like the Zanzibar that was owned by Felix Johnson. They found places like the Cat and Fiddle, which was owned by Freddie Munnings, and another number of other places all over New Providence where the blacks went to socialize and entertain themselves and to have fun. And why did they go there? Because they couldn't go there into the hotels. They had to support their own. Over the hill from Foxhole in the east to the Oasis in the west, all over New Providence, some 19, 20, 30 clubs all over the island. Then you came along, people like Peanuts Taylor with the Drum Beat Lounge on Market Street. You had the Che Paul mayors before that, right next to where Peanuts was, by a place called Dirty's. There's a gas station there now, I believe that was owned by Shea Paul Mays. Shea Paul Mays was a superstar at the time because he had performed all over Europe, people like Josephine Baker and others. But yet he came back to the Bahamas and he opened his theater and nightclub. All right, and then you had others that I, you know, I don't know all of them. [00:18:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:27] Speaker C: But a person like Errol Strawn would be able to tell you. He's in his 90s and he tells me there were some 40 to 50 nightclubs operating successfully. People like Al Cauley owned literally about four or five nightclubs. Yes, in New Providence. And then when they wanted to try to drive Grand Bahama, he opened one in Grand Bahama. My dad opened a Cad and filled a nightclub in Bimini. All right, because they were trying to use the entertainment industry to drive the tourism industry. Stafford Sons, in his wisdom, would take the entertainers throughout the world. [00:19:07] Speaker B: Right? [00:19:08] Speaker C: Peanuts, Count Bernardino, Chippy, many, many others, literally travel all over the world. The Police Band, and they, like a Pied piper, would bring those conventions back to the Bahamas. So they use the entertainment industry to attract the visitors from all over the world. Because it was so unique. We had people who came to the Bahamas simply because of the entertainment. And they would go over the hill. You find them over the hill all hours of the morning or night. These nightclubs would be open till 4 or 5 o' clock in the morning, literally. [00:19:49] Speaker A: Wow. [00:19:50] Speaker C: And you know what Safa Sans did? He used to have the policeman in his uniform stationed at every night spot to make sure that the visitors were protected and by so doing, protected the locals. [00:20:02] Speaker B: Right. [00:20:03] Speaker C: We've been saying this to our government for last 40 years, but they don't listen to us. You must. People must feel safe. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:14] Speaker C: And I hear them talking about the crime. Yes. Crime may be a problem for us. It is. But have you been to New York lately? Have you been to Chicago lately? Have you been to Atlanta lately? Miami lately? [00:20:29] Speaker A: Right. [00:20:29] Speaker C: Where they're having how many? As many in one day or one week as we have for the whole year. [00:20:35] Speaker A: Wow. [00:20:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:37] Speaker C: These are the people that we entertaining, you know. But they say crime is a problem in the Bahamas. Yes, we do have a crime problem in Bahamas. [00:20:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:44] Speaker C: However, there are crime problems everywhere you go in the world. I just came back from London. Crime problem there. All kind of roadblocks and stuff while I was there. [00:20:55] Speaker B: Wow. [00:20:57] Speaker C: So all I'm saying, Anku, the entertainment industry drove the tourism industry. Why? Because we created attractions that drew the visitors out of those plush hotels over the hill into establishments that were owned predominantly by black Bahamians and the Greeks. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Okay, so what happened? [00:21:27] Speaker C: What happened? [00:21:28] Speaker B: What happened? I mean, because that's not the case today. [00:21:33] Speaker C: Prior to 1967, which was majority rule year January 10, 1967, the PLP in particular held their rallies over the hill. [00:21:46] Speaker B: Okay. [00:21:46] Speaker C: They had the meetings over the hill. You know of the Reinhard Hotel? [00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah. It just fell down. [00:21:51] Speaker C: No, they ain't fell down. They took it down. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:54] Speaker C: They didn't realize the value of that institution. Cr Walker, Dr. Cr Walker and his wife, Mabel Walker, they built that because when the Mabel Walker was an American, African American woman that married to Dr. C.R. walker, one of our first doctors in the Bahamas. They came to live in the Bahamas. She used to have her black American friends come to visit her. And they couldn't go into the hotels. [00:22:23] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:24] Speaker C: So the Walkers built a hotel for them. [00:22:26] Speaker B: Right. Right down Blue Road. [00:22:27] Speaker C: Right there on Blue Road, called the Reinhardt Hotel. Could have a decent place to live. Okay. When Martin Luther King first came to the Bahamas, he lived in a house right? Off of Lewis street because he couldn't go into the hotels, Right? [00:22:40] Speaker B: Yep. [00:22:42] Speaker C: So they built this hotel and the PLP at the time used to hold meetings there. They certainly held meetings at the Cat and Fellow and other places over there. My dad used to hold rallies and fundraisers to raise money. The late A.D. hannah told me himself he used to take croak a sack full of money, five pound notes after the concerts that were given to him by my dad. When they held their functions at the Canton film. [00:23:18] Speaker A: Wow. [00:23:18] Speaker C: Wow. When you had people like Sidney Poitier who would bring people like Belafonte and Hugh Masakela and Miriam Makeba and we had people like Count Basie and Sammy Davis and all of these wonderful artists came to the Kenville. Remember I told you it was on Nassau Street? [00:23:37] Speaker B: That's right. [00:23:38] Speaker C: And Poinciano Drive over the hill among the people. Not in this plush hotels. It came over the hill. And those who came in the plush hotels wanted to see Nat King Cole. But they had to come to the Cat and Field to see Nat King Cole. But before they saw Nat King Cole, they saw the Freddie Mannings Orchestra. And they heard Little Dudley and they heard Fireball Freddie and they heard Count, Count Bas, Count Bernardino or they heard Cy Roberts or whomever was around at the time. Duke Harold, etc. Etc, Etc. [00:24:17] Speaker B: Powerful. [00:24:18] Speaker C: That's what happened. [00:24:20] Speaker B: Yes. [00:24:21] Speaker C: After 6068 when it was a by election because of the death of Uriah McPhee, PRB had another rally. You know where they held it On Paradise Island. [00:24:34] Speaker B: The place where they couldn't go, but it couldn't go. [00:24:37] Speaker C: So my dad told me he called his friend. Hello. The honorable Sir Lyndon Penley. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Yes. [00:24:46] Speaker C: And said hello. What happened man? Yeah, you couldn't go there, but now you have couple dollars to spend. You spending it over there as opposed to spending it over the hill among us. You're spending it with the oppressor. You know what he was told, Freddie? The people are free now they want to go into the white places. [00:25:07] Speaker A: Wow. [00:25:09] Speaker C: In essence he would tell him, the white man, ice is colder. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah. The water is wet. [00:25:14] Speaker C: I only need you. When I couldn't do this. Now that I could do this, I don't need you anymore. [00:25:20] Speaker A: Wow. [00:25:22] Speaker C: That's the mentality of our people. That's why I started with those quotes from Dr. Clark. Borrow the land when the slave becomes the master. Educate yourself from mental slavery. And that's what we have these plantations today that we call mega resorts. [00:25:46] Speaker B: So we never. [00:25:46] Speaker C: And the cruise ships. [00:25:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:49] Speaker C: I can't blame Them? No, no, they come to exploit. [00:25:53] Speaker B: Right. [00:25:54] Speaker C: That's their purpose. To make a return on their investment as much as we allow them to. [00:26:00] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:26:02] Speaker C: But we are now supposed to be the one in charge of the development of our people. But yet we are worse off today than we were under Stafford Science. And why am I saying that? Because we couldn't go into their places. We were forced to invest our money into our places. [00:26:19] Speaker B: We had an over the head, we had an economy. [00:26:22] Speaker C: The mom and pop shop survived. But now that the exploiters have taken hold and taken control, they own all that we want. I have advocated for years and I still advocate there should be certain industries reserved exclusively for Bahamians. I predict that the nightclub should be one of those industries. [00:26:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:50] Speaker C: No hotels. Mega hotels should be allowed nightclubs in the Bahamas. Let them come outside of those properties to experience the Bahamas. You go to New Orleans. There are no nightclubs and hotels in New Orleans. [00:27:06] Speaker B: Really? [00:27:06] Speaker C: There are no casinos in New Orleans. In the hotels. [00:27:09] Speaker B: Okay. [00:27:10] Speaker C: You got to go outside, you go. [00:27:12] Speaker B: To a hotel, you can rest. [00:27:13] Speaker C: Yes sir. [00:27:13] Speaker B: You won't do anything as you come in a hotel. [00:27:15] Speaker C: That's a lodging business. You, that's where you go to take your shower, to, you know, do your. [00:27:23] Speaker B: Domestic stuff and then you come out. [00:27:25] Speaker C: The lodging business. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Yes. [00:27:26] Speaker C: But the attraction business is reserved for the locals. [00:27:32] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Cause you to come out of those properties and spend your money so that they trickle down to the masses of the people. [00:27:40] Speaker B: Yes. [00:27:40] Speaker C: We allow mega resorts to have 30 restaurants from all over the world. We allow them to have the most exclusive nightclubs. We allow them to have the casino. [00:27:55] Speaker B: They're like a vacuum that's sucking up. [00:27:57] Speaker C: Not only sucking up, they are holding the visitor. You have no reason to go anywhere. [00:28:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:28:04] Speaker B: And then now they tell you. [00:28:05] Speaker C: And then they're telling you we can't protect you. [00:28:08] Speaker A: Right. [00:28:09] Speaker C: So stay in the bubble. Stay in. We can protect you where we have our own private security and we have the police protecting you. Don't go over the hill. [00:28:18] Speaker A: Right. [00:28:18] Speaker C: We can't protect you there because you may spend some money with uncle or with Mannings. Don't spend the money over there. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Right. [00:28:25] Speaker C: Keep all your money right here. So they are cruise ships on land. So you have the cruise ships cartel. [00:28:32] Speaker A: Right. [00:28:33] Speaker C: And then you have the resorts that are the plantations that's keeping you on the resorts. [00:28:38] Speaker B: My Lord. 323-623-2325-431632-54259 of course, in the family of islands. 2423-00-5720. We are also powered by BTC on the text line. 422-4796. Of course, you can also listen to us on guardiantalkradio.com and of course, we are on cable Bahamas channel 969 or BTC flow channel 622. Let's run to the phone lines and then we'll take some text. Caller, you are live on Guardian Radio today. Caller, going once. Let's try the next caller. Caller, you are live on Guardian Radio today. [00:29:27] Speaker A: Uncle, good afternoon. [00:29:29] Speaker B: Good afternoon. How you doing? Thanks for calling. [00:29:32] Speaker A: It's my pleasure to call. Brother Freddie. [00:29:34] Speaker C: Good afternoon. Good afternoon, my brother. [00:29:37] Speaker A: I want to thank you personally for the brief history lesson you've given thus far to how we have really relegated our opportunities. And when I say relegated or when I say relegated our opportunities, how we have seen how Bahamians once ruled the entertainment industry in this country where it was quite profitable, where it gave many families a source of income not just for themselves, but also the communities for where a lot of these nightclubs were originated and also operated. You know, Uncle, I'm trying to be very deliberate here with my words. [00:30:23] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:30:23] Speaker A: Because, because Freddie has brought about many great memories of the times back in the 60s, 70s and 80s. My father, of course, also worked at one time in the Cat and Fiddle. Okay, so there is that connection there. I can, I can identify to a point to which Freddie has already spoken to. And it is sad that we have allowed that our people have been allowed to oft times. Now in these mega resorts, you see, we are only workers. We're not owners. But then the other business owners who actually drives the economy, that is the same nightclubs, he spoke to, the same mom and pop stores, he spoke to the same other little, you know, stores sold souvenirs and stuff. We have allowed administrations, and I'm saying all governmental administrations from now to bring us down to our knees in this country should be some of the most prosperous people on the face of the planet. And we have 700 islands. And in these islands right now, as it stands. And I'm going to close my commentary right here because Freddie also knows the entertainment industry is near and dear to my heart after serving over 34 years in the industry. And I'm going to tell you, the only way the Bahamas and our people can return to any semblance of prosperity in this country is to return the old ideals back to what they once were. Bahamians owning the mom and pop stores again. Right now, the mom and pop stores are owned by Foreigners to bring about the entertainment aspect back over to him. Where, you know, I normally say people coming to this country, they don't want to eat the old stuff that they eat at home. They want to be entertained and they want to see how we, how and why we live the type of lifestyles that we live in this country. Because at one time we used to live very prosperously and they were very envious and trying to figure out why is it that we lived the way how we live. But you know, I'm going to continue to listen to the rest of the program. Freddie, thank you. You continue to fight because I stand with you, as you know, and there are many more like me who want to see this country return back to prosperity even in this time. But it is possible. But we have to get the shackles of our people's minds and stop voting political parties and look at the future of this country for everybody that exists. Thanks for taking my call today. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Let's run straight to the tax line. I thank you so much. From black Wall street to white Wall street, that's what that text is said. This is such an important history now. We traded this rich entertainment economy to pay John Baptiste Club 25,000 or 25. We have cite your history so it don't remain a mystery. In the 20th cur century, many don't know that it was the Moors who taught Columbus and many Europeans how to navigate. Also Moors were on their ships to the New World. Without them he was lost or going on hearsay. That's right. That's our brother 52. Someone said, I know I'm a straight too, but tell the public, don't get too familiar. We're gonna run to a break and then we're gonna go back to the phone lines here on Guardian radio today. Keep it locked in. 96.9 FM. [00:34:04] Speaker A: For all your printing deeds. [00:34:06] Speaker C: There ain't no one better no. For posters and binders, magazines and flyers. [00:34:12] Speaker A: For window decals, reading cards and newsletters. [00:34:16] Speaker C: No job too big and there's no job too small to name it we can print it. Just give us a call. Let printmasters bring your masterpiece. [00:34:26] Speaker A: To locate the Nassau Guardian Building, telephone 302-2361. [00:34:35] Speaker C: New school year. [00:34:36] Speaker A: New gear from personal loan can help you check every item off of your kids school list. Jump into back to school season with ease. Apply for a Fidelity personal loan today. Call 356-7764 Fidelity. [00:34:52] Speaker C: We're good for you. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Only big money can bring this bell down. When I see big Money I want. [00:35:12] Speaker C: Pound and pound and pound Yes, I. [00:35:14] Speaker A: Got a big that man I telling you the truth I feel just like the government Cuz they got big debt too up in the big go I. [00:35:22] Speaker C: Wish I had a clue God, I. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Got a big debt now what you want me do? Yes. [00:35:30] Speaker B: It'S so big and welcome, welcome back to Guardian Radio. Today here on 96.9 FM. I am your host, Kahun Ankusaram. My special guest today, my Uncle Freddie, Freddie Munnings Jr. And you know, we got a really, really beautiful history lesson on music and the tourist industry and even just globally, you know, why are we in the predicament that we are in as a people? As in the Bahamas, we are roughly 90% or more of African descent. So the conversations have to be, you know, if we're going to be honest with ourselves, centered around. And so we've had Mr. Munnings here really, really giving us some great insight on how things we. I mean, you could, you could, you could live as a musician. [00:36:25] Speaker C: Absolutely. You could more than live, more than live comfortably. Create opportunities for us to live at a certain standard. And not only that. Cause the politicians who now are in position to oppress us, cause them to be who they are. [00:36:43] Speaker B: Right, my lord, they going over there. Lane, come back. Let's run back to the phone lines here. 323-623-2325-431632-54259. And the family of islands. 24230-5720. Caller, you are live on Guardian Radio today. [00:37:02] Speaker A: Call her. [00:37:03] Speaker B: Going once. [00:37:04] Speaker C: Hello? [00:37:05] Speaker B: Yes, that's you. You live. [00:37:06] Speaker A: Yes, good afternoon, sir. I would like to congratulate Mr. Munnings for an excellent job he did with the history of the Bahamas. And I think that he should write a book and place it in every school in the country in the Bahamas, because it is excellent history that he displayed here this morning. Congratulations. So keep it up. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Thank you for your time. [00:37:29] Speaker C: Thank you very much, ma'. [00:37:30] Speaker A: Am. [00:37:30] Speaker C: I appreciate that. I'm going to ask uncle to help me with the drafting and describing of that. [00:37:34] Speaker B: We can make it happen because he's. [00:37:36] Speaker C: A literist, but my brother Raphael Munnings is doing such a history and I'm sure his works will be available very soon. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. Let's run back to the text and we can go back to the phone lines. This text says uncle. Wow, that's capital W. Exclamation points. If that history that Freddie shared is true, and it is true, and I'm sure He has no reason to lie. But if it is true, why wasn't this shared in our public schools? This person says, I am 50 years old and never heard it shared like that. Thank you, Freddie Munnings. My Lord. [00:38:12] Speaker C: Uncle, you would know that I've been advocating for the past 25 years as a member of the National Heroes Committee, that this history should be taught in our schools. And I understand that there is a book and you would remember, I think they eng. Because when I was called, you were one of the first people that I directed them to because of two reasons. One, your grandfather, the late Dr. Cleveland Ennis. You had access to his works, Baintown and Let the church Roll on, et cetera. And I know that you were an academia in the field of academics and also a lecturer and educator. And so I asked them to engage you. And I believe that you may have been a part of this proposed history book that's supposed to be a part of the curriculum in the upcoming semester. I hope that is true. And so if it is, some of the history will be available to the children. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. Let's run back to the phone lines here. Caller, you are live today on Guardian Radio. Today, our special guest, Freddie Munnings Jr. Hi. [00:39:17] Speaker A: Good afternoon, Mr. Manning. How you all doing? [00:39:20] Speaker B: Doing well, man. [00:39:21] Speaker C: Doing fine, thank you. [00:39:22] Speaker A: Okay. Great conversation, as a matter of fact, excellent conversation. I always enjoy these types of conversations. And Mr. Money, as. As you would know, Mr. Money shirt. That and my dad go way, way, way, way back, right? Being Ezra. Ezra Thompson. [00:39:42] Speaker C: Oh, of course, of course, of course. I know your dad very, very well. I knew him very well. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Absolutely, yes, absolutely. The sister says each and every time we meet, as we move up. But what I want to add to the conversation, some quick points I wrote down. We all know in particular, right. Thinking behemoths, right, that we require a revolutionary mindset in government, right? And by far. Because for the foreseeable future, Perhaps the next 50 to 100 years, century to century, the number one goose that lays the golden egg, right? And in order for our country, and in particular our people to rise, we must begin to see the benefits of tourism like we used to. We must remove by whatever means and necessary the capitalist mindset, the piggish mindset, the greedy mindset that has taken over our tourism plant. If we look, if we did a close examination on what is happening, and I've been saying this for about 20 years now, in the region with other nations that heavily rely on tourism like us, they may not be as successful in Tourism in terms of heads and beds or cruise ship arrivals as we have been. But they are far outpacing us, far outpacing us in terms of the benefits being derived to their country and also simultaneously to their people. Not just for the tax collected for the purpose of government spending, but for the bohemians. We need to see a shift. Right. And the only way we are going to see that shift is if we are prepared to take the hard stance that is necessary. You know, you look at what's happening in the United States, right. And granted the President may be. He may be taking the wrong approach with some of the things that he's doing, but his mindset is right. America is for Americans and the benefits of America must push the ride to Americans. We need that same mindset not just with the prime minister as we have it today, but throughout the entire cabinet and government. Right. You made an important statement. When. When the slave becomes master. Well, I asked you, I asked that. And say when the one slave who wait to see his brother and sister rise. [00:42:29] Speaker C: Yes. [00:42:29] Speaker A: Becomes master. That's when woe becomes the land. Right. We have a great segment. I'll end with this. Right now we have a great segment of society and academia in particular who will tell you don't depend or rely on government for your survival. I find it to be the biggest garbage juice anyone said out of their mouth. Here's the reason why. What's so strange and absurd about that completely flawed position is the biggest, I repeat, the biggest and the wealthiest bohemian and foreign owned companies amongst us rely heaviest on the government. So their sustainability. [00:43:08] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:43:09] Speaker A: Not just for now, but for generations. Can you all let me. Gentlemen. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Yes sir. [00:43:13] Speaker A: You're speaking truth to power and to make it work. To make it work. Just the last part of the statement. [00:43:18] Speaker B: Go ahead. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Governments allow such companies to continue to get over on it. And the Bahamian people, how strange is that? We need a shift in this country. And the IMF of recent and their recent reports in 2025 is now acknowledging what I've been speaking to for the last almost 20 years, that we need a shift in how we conduct tourism in this country. Because behemoths are not getting the maximum benefit. We are allowing for cruise ships to enter into areas of tourism that should be solely for behemoths. We have allowed, as Mr. Mannings point out, for these mega resorts to come here with 15, 17, 19 restaurants and today they have 40 and 50 plus restaurants. What does that do to the locum community? How does that help us? It does not. It keeps Them. Right. [00:44:15] Speaker B: Well, thank you. [00:44:16] Speaker A: Like. Like sandals, they become an all inclusive where there is absolutely no need. So forget about developing other parts of the country. If you have all you want on the property that you are on, and you are not encouraged to. To venture off of that property, and the government is not enforcing rules and regulations to ensure that the society can benefit, we will continue to see this slave mentality on this tourism plantation model that exists today because it didn't exist in your father's time. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Thank you. Let me squeeze one more call in. Thank you, man. God bless, man. Let's get another call in before we run to the news break here on Guardian Radio today. Caller, you're live caller. Going once. All right. They probably gonna call back after the news. Yeah. Some strong words. [00:45:08] Speaker C: Yes, Uncle. The gentleman. The last caller, Mr. Thompson, spoke truth to power. You see, the truth is stubborn. Yes, the truth is stubborn. At some point, it's gonna come out, Uncle. [00:45:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:45:23] Speaker C: Those of us who are not afraid to stand up for truth. And I know you are not, because you've done it. Y. I know my grandsons are not. [00:45:35] Speaker B: That's right. [00:45:36] Speaker C: And they will speak at some point. It may not happen in my lifetime. [00:45:39] Speaker B: Yeah, but it. In them. [00:45:41] Speaker C: It's in them. [00:45:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:43] Speaker C: Because I got it from my dad and my mom. [00:45:45] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:46] Speaker C: And we have to stand up for justice in this country, man. I don't care who it is. And I'm not talking politics. Because respective governments have oppressed us. [00:45:58] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:46:00] Speaker C: And I'm not just starting this Germany. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. [00:46:04] Speaker C: I started this 40 years ago when my dad was alive. I came home in 1980. I'm fighting for the same principles that we fought for back when I came home in 1980. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Wow. [00:46:18] Speaker C: It's the very same principles. [00:46:20] Speaker B: And this is why we got to keep talking. Let's. Let's run back. Let's just see if we get this one last call in before we go to news calling. You live here on Guardian Radio today. [00:46:28] Speaker A: Yes. Yes, sir. Good day to all. [00:46:30] Speaker B: How you doing? [00:46:31] Speaker A: Not bad. You know, the problem is that. That. That we. We know what the issue is, the problem is, but we fail to say that it's not. You know, we. You know, the plp, you know, was supposed to be a democratic socialist party, you know, just for their name, Progressive and liberal, you see. But then they became the. What you call it, a neoliberal party, you see, they became like. Like. Like what you call it? The Foreign Iraq Investment Party. They. They. They did worse than the UBP because The UBP did, you know, more stuff locally. You know, we could have feed ourselves almost, you know, and the like, you know, and. And then, you know, when, you know, Penland. Pen. What Penland did. Penland wasn't he. He. He had some falls as well as, you know, if he did something, the good thing that he did, Finland did. Right. Finland bought hotels. And what we did, we turn around and sell them. You see, when we look at the socialist countries like let's say China. China is a socialist country. They do. They call. They practice what you call socialist market. They have a socialist market economy where the government our controls. The commanding heights of the economy. You know, like the commanding heights of our economy is tourism. So that means we should be owning the tourism industry, not a foreign direct investment or even a local investor. [00:47:58] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:48:00] Speaker A: You see what I'm saying? Until we see these things, you know, things like electricity and power generation and, you know, I mean transportation and the like, you know what's going on there. [00:48:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:11] Speaker A: You know, and things like farm and I mean, she dies. The farming. [00:48:15] Speaker C: Yes. [00:48:15] Speaker A: And they don't do it today. You know, they did backyard thing. And that's what they call it, a backyard kit. [00:48:21] Speaker B: Yes. [00:48:22] Speaker A: And the like that's full of snow. We need industrial farming. [00:48:25] Speaker C: It's true. [00:48:26] Speaker A: You know, we be politicking and politicking and politicking and they all are the same. [00:48:31] Speaker B: Thank you. Let's let Mr. Money's respond. [00:48:34] Speaker A: What's the name? The new party. [00:48:37] Speaker C: Thank you for your call, Carla. It's to the mercantilist's advantage not to develop farming, my lord, because they import everything. They own the boats. They have the contacts. They have the purchasing power. They own the ports. And so it is to their advantage for them not to develop farming in this country. They're the ones who control where the purchases go. They have their purchasing agents in Florida. They don't even have them here in the Bahamas. Listen, why should they encourage farming? [00:49:12] Speaker B: Exactly. We're gonna get into this and a lot more after than the the break. We're gonna run to news and then we'll be back here on Guardian Radio today. Our special guest, Freddie Munnings Jr. I am your host, Kahon Anku Sarah, also known as Dr. K. Cleveland W. Guinness III. We'll be back right after this. [00:49:41] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. Fresh news. Smart talk all day. Don't settle for ordinary when you can have the farmhouse King only at Burger King Nassau. It's back. Sink your teeth into 100% flame grilled beef stack with crisp bacon, melty American cheese, crispy onions, a fried egg and the bull sauce that adds the perfect kick for a flavor sensation fit for a king. Grab the Farmhouse King as a combo with fries and a drink or go all in with the Farmhouse King's Feast. It's bigger, it's better, and it's only at Burger King Nassau. [00:50:19] Speaker C: Now, Let me see now. 3, 2, 6, e T I C. Hello, hello. [00:50:24] Speaker A: This. This EPIC EKIT battery. [00:50:26] Speaker C: This Ms. Beulah from around the corner. [00:50:28] Speaker A: I hear you're selling tires now on Wolf Road too. Praise the Lord. It's about time I left Fox Hill and Fire Trail. It's too far. That ain't all. They open Monday to Friday, 7am to 7pm on Sunday and holiday 8am to 4pm My brother Sam Get Fixer. Call us at 326 EPIC. [00:50:47] Speaker B: We ship also to the family island. [00:50:49] Speaker A: Great Commissions Ministries is God's storehouse. They have been caring for the poor, homeless and hurting since 1987. You are invited to support their stop and drop program by dropping off some food items in their barrels and some cash in their bottles. You can donate an offering each month or pay your tithes online to create commissions through the givelify or suncash apps. [00:51:12] Speaker C: Help them to shelter the homeless, feed. [00:51:14] Speaker A: The hungry and spread the gospel of Christ. Volunteer your service and support the Live2Give program. Call Great Commission Ministries God Storehouse at 325-580-1 for further information or stop by the office on Wolf Road. Be blessed. [00:51:55] Speaker C: Throughout my lifetime I run my own race throughout my lifetime I set my own pace throughout my lifetime I sailed many seas throughout my lifetime I gave all of me. [00:52:28] Speaker B: Welcome back to Guardian Radio today. That's the voice of our guest today. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Today. [00:52:33] Speaker C: I haven't heard that song in years. [00:52:35] Speaker B: Thank you, my brother, Freddie Munnings Jr. In studio today. Wow. And those words ring true even today. [00:52:41] Speaker C: Listen, your producer is on it, man. [00:52:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:44] Speaker C: You know, I wrote that song as a tribute to Sid Notes. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Okay. [00:52:51] Speaker C: When he was really just about a year or so before he passed. And like you said, the lyrics are so apropos for what we're talking about. [00:53:02] Speaker B: Come on. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Wow. [00:53:04] Speaker C: Thank you, Mr. Producer. [00:53:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that's God's Kermit, man. Good afternoon, gentlemen. An extremely interesting conversation. One that speaks truth to power. Unfiltered. I grew up in Cat island and can vividly recall the early 60s when we obtained majority rule. Not long afterwards, there were signs that the so called quote unquote liberators has turned out to Be the biggest quote, unquote, oppressors. By encouraging political polarization, nepotism and a spirit of entitlement, they promised a quote, unquote, a square deal. But there isn't anything square today. They are taking care of their friends and known supporters. Not even some family. I know what I'm saying. This is what the text says. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Wow. [00:53:48] Speaker C: This brother or sisters put on. [00:53:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:53:52] Speaker C: No, he's. He's real. [00:53:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:54] Speaker C: There was something called the behemothization policy that was initiated by the late Arthur D. Hanna. And that policy basically said that every business coming into the Bahamas must have a behemoth involved at some level, some equity level. And in some instances, certain industries were reserved particularly for behemoth. Particularly the retail business, for example. [00:54:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:54:26] Speaker A: So we got rid of. [00:54:26] Speaker B: They got rid of that. [00:54:27] Speaker C: Yes. So what? [00:54:29] Speaker B: Okay. [00:54:29] Speaker C: The humanization policy. You ask them today who are in power because it came out of the belly of the people. [00:54:39] Speaker B: So today, when somebody wants to come in here and do business in this country, surely they are here to be agreement. Surely there's some guideline as to how they should operate. What's going on? [00:54:50] Speaker C: Let me refer you to the MoU, which is a very topical subject today in political Circles. Signed on 25 August 2021 by. [00:55:05] Speaker A: The. [00:55:06] Speaker C: Memorandum of understanding between the Joint Labor Movement, consisting of the Commonwealth of the Trade Union Congress, the National Congress of Trade Unions and the Progressive Liberal Party. [00:55:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:55:18] Speaker C: We signed this agreement. [00:55:20] Speaker B: Okay. [00:55:21] Speaker C: And let me preface it by saying we had proposed a memorandum of understanding to all political parties at the time. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Okay. [00:55:31] Speaker C: Including the FM, the then Democratic alliance, the DNA and Mr. Bain's party. Mr. Bain responded very positively and said that he was very interested and supportive of what we were doing. Never came to any kind of proposal. The DNA. The same thing. The FNM didn't even respond at the time to what we had presented. [00:55:59] Speaker B: Wow. [00:56:00] Speaker C: The PLP in opposition responded. [00:56:04] Speaker A: Okay. [00:56:04] Speaker C: And we ended up with the mou. [00:56:06] Speaker B: Okay. Number one on the MOU right out the gate. [00:56:09] Speaker C: Number one. [00:56:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:56:11] Speaker C: That as a matter of public policy and where possible in statute and in regulation, formal consultations with the parties and you heard the parties. [00:56:24] Speaker B: Yes. [00:56:24] Speaker C: Union leaders and the PLP at the time will occur before the approval processes of the grant obsession to foreign investors. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Wow. [00:56:40] Speaker C: Consultations will be had right from 2021 to today, August 2026, exactly four years ago. Not one consultation has been held. [00:56:57] Speaker B: So that's been ignored. [00:56:58] Speaker C: As far as I am aware, not one consultation has been held among the parties. Let me go on. That's Number one. Number five, the parties agree toward a cultural heritage Art and entertainment encouragement act as well as a national pension fund. [00:57:21] Speaker B: Not the Orange Economy. [00:57:22] Speaker C: The Orange Economy. Number five, Right. In the agreement. Have you heard of any encouragement act? [00:57:31] Speaker B: No. [00:57:32] Speaker C: To perpetuate and to develop the entertainment industry. And then we have people like honorable Sandy Sands talking foolishness. [00:57:43] Speaker B: He made a comment that really, you know. And we're gonna get to. You call on. Just a second. [00:57:49] Speaker C: I could go on. Because there were 22 of them. [00:57:53] Speaker B: Because as we as. So this. This is from, I think this today's paper. [00:57:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:59] Speaker B: Right. [00:58:00] Speaker C: From who? [00:58:02] Speaker B: I'm looking at this. [00:58:03] Speaker C: Robert Sandy Sands. [00:58:04] Speaker B: Robert Sandy Sands. [00:58:05] Speaker C: Okay. [00:58:06] Speaker B: All right. And in this paper. That's right. It's today's date. This is by. This from the Tribune. By Anelia Nixon. Union says Bahama exact is quote, unquote, thorn in the side of musicians. [00:58:20] Speaker C: Yes. [00:58:21] Speaker B: The United Artists Bahamas Union, the uabu has hit out at a prominent hotelier as, quote, unquote, unsupportive of Bahamian entertainers. They defend musicians against recent comments that quote, unquote, they have not reinvented themselves. [00:58:37] Speaker C: That's Mr. Link Scavall, I believe. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Yes, he did. [00:58:40] Speaker A: Yes. [00:58:40] Speaker C: The president and I support him 1000%. Sandy Sands. And I call his name because he made some comments about something I said as well, that we are at fault and we are the reason for the demise of the entertainment industry. [00:58:54] Speaker B: They have not reinvented themselves. [00:58:57] Speaker C: Well, you know, I told you in the beginning of this show that the sin of omission is waste and the sin of commission. If you and Mr. Sandy Sands has been in a position for more than three decades. I remember when he was the general manager, Nassau Beach Hotel. And then I remember he became the vice president of the Crystal palace and then the vice president. Now, Bahama. Throughout my entire life in the entertainment industry, Robert Sandy Sands has not done one thing to promote local Bahamian entertainment development in our country. Or as a matter of fact, he's oppressed it. [00:59:40] Speaker B: Wow. [00:59:40] Speaker C: I one time owned and operated a nightclub in the Nassau Beach Hotel along with Cedric Munnings and Ronald Sims, called the Island Club. Al Cauley was downstairs with the Living Room. [00:59:54] Speaker B: That's right. [00:59:55] Speaker C: I don't believe set foot in any of those nightclubs. [00:59:57] Speaker B: Wow. [00:59:58] Speaker C: He never supported what we were doing. As a matter of fact, he was doing everything to get us out of there, at least our club. And when they did finally close, before they started to develop the Bahama, they closed the spot for two years without any activity. I Approached Sandy and Ronald myself to try to keep the club open. He didn't even give us the time of day. So this man is the last person to talk about Bahamians trying to develop our industry. [01:00:31] Speaker A: Wow. [01:00:31] Speaker C: He is nothing about other than an oppressor when it comes to Bahamian Entertainment. [01:00:38] Speaker B: 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Of course, in the family of violence. 242-300-5720. Of course. Our tax line is 422-4796. Standard tax rates to apply. Caller, you're live on Guardian Radio today. [01:00:57] Speaker A: Thank you very much. I hope you're doing well. Brother Munnings. [01:01:00] Speaker C: Yes. Brother Thompson. Yes. [01:01:02] Speaker A: Yes. I need a person like you with that tremendous institutional knowledge which is extremely valuable for the Damien people. [01:01:11] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [01:01:12] Speaker A: Because we have had some oppressors. [01:01:15] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [01:01:15] Speaker A: Persons who had the responsibility to. To make a difference. And all they have done was oppress. Oppress. Oppress. Consultation is a dirty word for some people. [01:01:25] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [01:01:26] Speaker A: You don't know what that means. [01:01:27] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [01:01:28] Speaker A: So the thing is, your name and. [01:01:30] Speaker C: Number, no problem if you call on Cool's producer. Yes, sir. [01:01:34] Speaker B: Just stay on the line and leave your number. Call her. Stay on the line. The producer will get your number. [01:01:38] Speaker A: Yeah. My number. [01:01:40] Speaker B: Yes. [01:01:41] Speaker C: And I'll call you. Yes, sir. [01:01:42] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. My number is three. Oh, I'll leave it. [01:01:45] Speaker B: Leave it with the producer. [01:01:47] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Oh, okay. All right. [01:01:48] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let's run to the next call and we'll get to some text here on Guardian Radio today. Calling you live on Guardian Radio. [01:01:57] Speaker A: Good afternoon. [01:01:57] Speaker B: Good afternoon. [01:01:59] Speaker A: After. Hey, uncle and Freddy. How y' all doing? [01:02:02] Speaker C: Well, man, thank you. [01:02:03] Speaker A: Good. Listen, Anu and Freddie. [01:02:08] Speaker B: Yes, sir. [01:02:09] Speaker A: Listen. We are our world enemies, my lord. You know, it's us against us, you know. In 1974, Southern Senate opened up the hotel training college, say for Behemoth to be trained as hotel managers and chefs. [01:02:26] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Okay. Because there were too many. All of the highly paying jobs in the hotel industry occupied by foreigners. [01:02:34] Speaker C: Yes. [01:02:34] Speaker A: Okay. And that was 1974. [01:02:39] Speaker C: Sandy still perpetuating that at Bahama. [01:02:42] Speaker A: Yes. College became the number one tourism training center in the Caribbean. Everyone from the Caribbean came here to learn about hotel and hospitality. Okay? Now, one prime minister in 1999, 2008, because it was not youthful. But the problem is Behemoth is the worst enemies for Behemoth. Okay? All of your son, all the foreigners you may work with or you come in contact with, they respect you as a professional, they respect your education, your experience and they want to pay you exactly what you deserve. But you have here the behemoth, on the other hand, believe that you are not worth what's the other person's the worst. Okay? To give you another example, I remember 1993, a group of 12 of us, we protested unfair hiring and unfair opportunity. Okay? A Bahamian obviously shut us down. Okay? We were discriminated against. We were kept back from promotion. That was done by a bohemian. Meanwhile, the expatriates had no problem with respect in our qualification education. So our bohemians are our worst enemies. Also the Harvard Training College, which opened its door in 1974 on September 9th, next two weeks, you'll find that they recall history. What happened to state, they will not mention Oral training college, which was the number one training college in the Bahamas for Caribbean student and hotel sector. Wow. Okay, so it's behemoth schools against behemoth. Okay? The black Ralph syndrome still exists today after 50 years. Thank you very much. [01:04:21] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you. [01:04:23] Speaker C: The only comment I would make on KUH is I would say some Bahamians and those position, as I said, to assist like Mr. Sandy Sands has done very little to promote and or to encourage the development of the attractions outside of the hotel. See, I'm saying the mega resorts are fine. I don't have no difficulty with the foreign director coming and investing his money for a reasonable profit or a good prophet. [01:04:53] Speaker B: Right. [01:04:54] Speaker C: But not at the detriment of our people. [01:04:57] Speaker B: Loop us. [01:04:58] Speaker C: Loop us in. [01:04:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:59] Speaker C: And I think it would stand for a better equation, a better industry. And I use New Orleans as an example. As I said before, I know that market very well. You have to go outside of the hotels for the experience. Tourism is moving people from point A to point B. Driver move the people or the bus driver or the other, and it goes to uncle's establishment where he hires 10 or 20 or 30 people and they are able to take so the money trickles down into the community where we can benefit from the foreign direct investors investment in our country. [01:05:46] Speaker B: On the level of a owner. [01:05:47] Speaker C: Yes, yes. Ownership. [01:05:49] Speaker B: Yes. [01:05:49] Speaker C: I don't want to be a busboy. There's nothing wrong with that. That's a starting place. So why can't I be an owner? [01:05:56] Speaker B: Come on now. [01:05:57] Speaker C: Why can't I partner with you? [01:05:59] Speaker B: Right? [01:05:59] Speaker C: And make your experience even greater? Because all you can do in your property is to imitate what the authentic, you know, foreigner could do. Bahamian better than. Than Bahamian. [01:06:14] Speaker B: Come on, come on. [01:06:15] Speaker C: I heard them Advertising this food festival just. It was a foreigner telling them about the Bahamian food. [01:06:21] Speaker B: My Lord. [01:06:23] Speaker C: What kind of foolishness is this? [01:06:25] Speaker B: And we sitting around letting this happen. [01:06:26] Speaker C: And, and, and, and Chef hall is right there. But a foreigner telling them about the Bahamian experience. [01:06:34] Speaker A: I agree. [01:06:34] Speaker B: Someone whispering in his ear. That's the funny part. [01:06:37] Speaker C: He can even. But not conquering grits. [01:06:41] Speaker A: No. [01:06:42] Speaker C: But he telling the world. [01:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:44] Speaker C: About Bahamian cuisine, my Lord. And Simeon hall right there. [01:06:49] Speaker B: Right an expert. Let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian radio today. Calling you live on Guardian radio today. [01:06:57] Speaker A: Good afternoon, Uncle Sarah. Grammy boy this. Grammy boy. Nana boy. Nana boy. [01:07:03] Speaker B: All right. [01:07:04] Speaker A: And good afternoon, Freddie Money. [01:07:06] Speaker C: Good afternoon, sir. [01:07:07] Speaker A: Now, you know I love and respect you with your pretty blue eyes. I know. Tony Sumo. [01:07:13] Speaker C: Yeah, that was 20 c. Mo don't get me mixed up. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I get me all mixed up. Y' all fellas for the best in the world. You understand me? [01:07:24] Speaker C: My, my signature song is all the best things. My brother's signature song is Funky Nassau. [01:07:29] Speaker A: Okay. Funky now. Saw that. Best in the world. So what I need you to do, Commander, is I need you to stop calling Sandy San's name. And the reason for that is we always had had house negroes in this part of the world. We always had. [01:07:47] Speaker C: I was trying to be respectful. I call him by his name. [01:07:50] Speaker A: Yeah. No no, no. We always had house Negroes. So if we were smart enough. I believe I, I, I am totally in, in concurrence with what chef mystic saying. Yes, sir, we are our own worst enemies. Let me qualify why I'm saying that, Uncle Sarah. I just had a club there in 20, I think 11, 12, 13. It was over the hill where they say no club could open up for, for tourists over the years. Not in this day in time. I ain't going to no government for no money. I ain't going to none of them fellas no money. I took my invention and my, my what I wanted to do out of my own head. And I believed in myself. And I reopened Larry's Pub. He would know where Larry's Pub was. I opened that. [01:08:41] Speaker C: I certainly did open it. [01:08:43] Speaker A: I opened it not only for natives. I opened it for anybody who wanted to come. I had a ninja junk. This my creation. I did Junkunu costume. Junkuno was redesigned the place and let me tell you, I had tourists coming back over the hill to the point where the, the guy who owned Muffler Earth had his daughter birthday party in the club over the hill. [01:09:09] Speaker B: And the government helped you with this? The government helped you. [01:09:11] Speaker A: This. What government? What government? [01:09:13] Speaker C: The tourism board helped you with this? [01:09:15] Speaker A: No, sir. [01:09:16] Speaker B: Are you okay with that? [01:09:18] Speaker A: And the club. Hold on, hold on. [01:09:20] Speaker B: Because we see ITI principally trying to get to a point. Yes, you did that. That's a beautiful thing. [01:09:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:26] Speaker B: The government being where they're at. Did they help you with that? [01:09:30] Speaker A: No, sir. [01:09:30] Speaker B: Did they? [01:09:31] Speaker A: Did they. [01:09:32] Speaker B: Where's the club now? What's going on with it now? [01:09:35] Speaker A: Well, I left IDD for medical reasons. Brent has taken it over to do his liquor business. [01:09:42] Speaker B: Right. So the quest. We started the show today talking about the many opportunities that Bahamians had based on the fact that there was a synchronicity. [01:09:54] Speaker C: That's correct. [01:09:55] Speaker B: You see, between the government and the entrepreneurs in the entertainment business and otherwise in tourism. That's the main point that's being made today. [01:10:03] Speaker C: Let me give you one example of what he just said. During the period when the Ketton Field and others like it were very successful, the late Robert Bobby Simonette was involved with Bethel Robinson. Liquor stores, they used to give my father the liquor on consignment so as to be successful. And when he made his money, he paid him off right away. He and Bobby became very close friends. I ask in the government for no money, man. I have a club and I would invite you to come in. Coral harbor, called a Spotlight Lounge. [01:10:44] Speaker A: Yes, very nice. [01:10:45] Speaker C: Spent all of our money, Me and my partners, Naomi and Clinton Crawford, we did not get one red dime, one red cent incentive in any form of tax exemptions. Ask Bahama what they get. Ask Atlantis what they get. All we're asking is to level the playing field. [01:11:08] Speaker A: Let me tell you how you left. [01:11:10] Speaker C: That's all we're asking. [01:11:11] Speaker A: Let me tell you what I do to level the playing field, Freddie. You got to do it yourself. And then they can follow you, you know. [01:11:17] Speaker C: Well, we did it ourselves. We're still running. [01:11:19] Speaker A: You gotta. You gotta tell the taxi drivers. Yeah, those that ferry those customers, listen, when they go together. [01:11:27] Speaker C: Now you're talking. [01:11:29] Speaker A: Carry me down. [01:11:30] Speaker C: Now you're talking. [01:11:31] Speaker A: The taxi drivers come uncle. You offer them. [01:11:34] Speaker C: Now you're talking, Grammy boy. [01:11:35] Speaker A: You offer them $2. Okay. All right. [01:11:39] Speaker B: But respectfully, thank you. Thank you, caller. [01:11:41] Speaker C: With respect to what the government does for the foreign direct investor, why can't enjoy those same incentives? That's the question. [01:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, and so this is why the comment of, you know, the musicians not reinventing themselves? [01:11:57] Speaker C: Exactly. My question is, what did Sandy Sands do as president of the Promotion and Marketing board? What did he do? I Wish he would call in and challenge me. 3, 2, 3, 6. [01:12:11] Speaker B: 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 5, 4, 31 6. 3, 2 5, 425 9. Let's run back to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio today. Caller, you're live caller, going once. All right, let's try the next caller. Caller, you live on Guardian Radio today. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Hey, good day, good day. Good day gentlemen. How you doing? [01:12:33] Speaker B: Doing well, man. Thanks for calling. [01:12:35] Speaker A: I want to contribute to something in this country as, as a business person. Yeah, right. When I hear people from this country they talk about government and they talk about opening up a business is so hard. Listen to me and I want, I want the Bahamian people to hear it. I started out washing cars, ashamed to say that 57 year old man. God has opened the doors for me to have a successful construction company now and a general maintenance company. I didn't depend on the government for that. I born in a farm. [01:13:13] Speaker B: I think you're missing the point of this whole show. [01:13:15] Speaker A: I start my own. [01:13:16] Speaker B: The resilience. The resilience. [01:13:18] Speaker C: Hold on. [01:13:18] Speaker B: The resilience of Bahamians is not in question. We already know Bahamians could do it on themselves. [01:13:23] Speaker C: That's why we still alive. [01:13:26] Speaker B: Because if we was waiting on the. [01:13:27] Speaker C: Government, we would have been dead. Nobody waiting on the government, my friend. [01:13:30] Speaker B: That ain't what we talking about today. [01:13:33] Speaker C: Totally miss. Understand the topic that we are discussing. We are talking about asking the government to give us no handout. We are the government. [01:13:44] Speaker B: We elect people to work on our behalf. All we're saying is if you have a responsibility to get the tourists here, then what are we doing with the tourists? With all this money that's being generated, how is it trickling down into the economy? Why are you talking about crime in. [01:14:05] Speaker C: One breath and then in the next. [01:14:07] Speaker B: Breath the money that could actually quench the criminal's appetite so we don't have to go out there and do crime. We ain't doing nothing with that. [01:14:16] Speaker C: When you as government depends on, depend on the masses to get to the position to represent us and you get your coffers filled, what do you do to help the rest of us be independent entrepreneurs? So that we could benefit from some of the monies that come into this country in the tourism industry, why is it that the foreign direct investor could get all of the benefits and we pay the price? [01:14:44] Speaker B: We in the Bahamas, my lord. We're going to run to a break. Here on Guardian Radio today, our special guest, Freddy Munnings Jr. I am your host, Kahoon Anku. Sara also known as Dr. Cleveland W Enas III. We'll be back right after this. [01:14:56] Speaker A: I knew one man was a big shot. Him say him never could fail his taxes got in a hot spot. Now him spending time in the jail. This week at Shoe Depot you can buy two pairs of shoes and get a third pair of equal or less value at 50 off. Yes that's right. 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We empower students to excel not just in school, but in life. Life. Through our courses that includes aviation, stem, robotics, cosmetology, technology, culinary dance and graphic design, we shape scholars into leaders who are ready to embrace new jobs and careers of the 21st century. [01:17:32] Speaker B: Enroll your child today and let us. [01:17:34] Speaker A: Support their educational journey. Call us at 826-3589 or 324-9212 Akiapran International Academy Building student leaders, tourists. [01:17:44] Speaker C: This. [01:17:45] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all day. [01:17:56] Speaker C: This is something very special just for. [01:17:59] Speaker A: You. [01:18:10] Speaker C: In my life. Happen since I met you. [01:18:22] Speaker B: And we're back here on Guardian Radio today. That's the voice of our guest, Freddy Munnings Jr. And listen, man, the first. [01:18:31] Speaker C: Thing you say, boy, how do you know we can scrape? [01:18:33] Speaker B: No, you know, when they say I agree with them, you know what I say? Need is the national anthem. [01:18:38] Speaker C: Neither is the national anthem. But neither is love. No, see, my father told me. He said, freddie, you could sing about whatever you want to sing about. Yes, but the most universal thing you could sing about is love, my Lord. [01:18:50] Speaker B: That everywhere. [01:18:51] Speaker C: Everywhere. [01:18:52] Speaker B: Yes. [01:18:52] Speaker C: All right. So, yes, we could sing the Rake and Scrape and I love it. [01:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:18:56] Speaker C: But you know, if you want to touch people all over the world, sing about love, sing about inspiration. [01:19:01] Speaker B: We have emotional spectrum. You know, this tax says is a behavior doing it. [01:19:07] Speaker A: Come on. [01:19:07] Speaker B: Right away, Trey. Talk about tax incentives. Bahamas used to give production 17% and now nothing. So now no movies are coming. They are cutting the wrong. You know how much money we made from movies. You know, that's what the text is saying. That's true. I was a part of some of those movies back in the day. [01:19:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:27] Speaker B: No question. Let me see what this next text. It says, good day in respect to your guests. [01:19:31] Speaker A: Good. Great. [01:19:31] Speaker B: The great Freddie Munnings. The bohemian musicians have been used as a sideshow for politicians. I believe in bohemians play rake and scrape music. They are saying prayers to the politicians. [01:19:44] Speaker C: They are saying they need these musicians to attract the people to the rallies so they can spew their, you know, whatever they spew. But you know, my dad also always tell me, boy, the politicians won't be like you, you know. Yeah. He can't do what you do. [01:19:58] Speaker B: All them have a video of them dancing, you know. [01:20:00] Speaker C: Exactly. [01:20:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I believe when Bahamians play rake and scrape music, they are saying prayers to the politicians because there's no market for it and the tourists don't want to hear. Now, I believe that. I don't really believe that the Ravenscraft. [01:20:12] Speaker C: Has this place a beautiful, sweet music. It has its place. [01:20:15] Speaker B: It definitely has. [01:20:15] Speaker C: It's a danceable rhythm. It speaks to our culture. It speaks to our rhythm. My father, during his era, called it goombe music. [01:20:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:26] Speaker C: But you see, what we need to understand, it doesn't matter the genre so much. You know, it's what you are saying. It's the message that you are delivering to the masses of our people. When I sing about love songs, it's hard for a fellow to leave that kind of music and try to go there and kill somebody. [01:20:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:46] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? When you sing about dancing and having fun, it's hard for the fellow to lead that kind of environment. Environment and go murder anybody or rob anybody is biochemistry. Exactly. Because we touch the emotions of the people. [01:20:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:58] Speaker C: It is what we are singing that's more important than the rhythm that you're using. Yes. There are indigenous rhythms, but you know, Reagan script is not originally Bahamian. [01:21:08] Speaker B: Ah. [01:21:08] Speaker C: It was something came out of something called Ripsaw. Out of whom you mentioned earlier. Just gave it that name sometime in the 60s. He said, you know, they're raking and they're scraping. But the real genre of it comes from the rip saw where you're scraping the saw. Right, the saw. The carpenter saw. [01:21:28] Speaker B: Yes. [01:21:29] Speaker C: But all of it is based on our African rhythms. See, that's the key. [01:21:33] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. 3236. 232-325-4316. 325-4259. In the family of islands. 242-300-5720. Our text lines today for 422-4796. Let's run back to the phone lines. Caller, you are live on Guardian radio today. [01:21:52] Speaker A: Good afternoon. That's uncle. You could hear me? [01:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah. My brother. How you doing man? [01:21:56] Speaker A: Thank God for life. Poppy up? [01:21:57] Speaker B: Yeah, Papa. [01:21:58] Speaker A: All right. And Good afternoon to Mr. Manning. [01:22:00] Speaker C: Good afternoon, my brother. [01:22:01] Speaker A: All right. You said the producer. Good afternoon. You said the producer is Kirby. [01:22:05] Speaker B: Kirby was. Yeah. Another producer just walking. [01:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I know that was in Kami voice but I was gonna ask Kermie if he get the one there. What Mr. Manning sing about the sunflower. [01:22:14] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [01:22:16] Speaker B: Our producer listening. He got it. [01:22:18] Speaker A: He got it. [01:22:18] Speaker C: It's a powerful song and maybe Mr. [01:22:21] Speaker A: Mannings will tell you why he's singing. [01:22:23] Speaker C: Yes, I will be happy to do it. But make your comments first. I will be happy to do that power. [01:22:27] Speaker A: Yes, sir, Mr. Munin. I, I Uncle, I I always be saying on the talk show, right. I might be a fan of Mr. Munnings. Right. Way back in the days with him and CB Marcel Beat Ferguson. Those Right. But the fact is the, the bottom line is that we don't do enough for our own. You don't do. I don't think the government. This ain't no plp. Just hitting the pld. Talking FM pld. [01:22:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:52] Speaker A: They didn't do enough for these guys, man. I mean look how he's been over. Backward, forward, concession galore. Red carpet for the foreign investors. My goodness. I too sad if you don't like Freddie Munin. If you think Freddie Munns is too vocal. And over the years, well, Yanks, I mean look here. And they talk. We talk about certain parties. There's the party for the people. You know, they. They connected. They always talk about Freddie Manning Senior. They talk about the cat and the fiddling back in the days when it used to be a certain way. But they didn't come. And they even ain't doing enough for these guys. Them, they just leave them right there. Look at this. Carry on for the cruel ship and stuff they give them. I don't know if it's say give, right, but Mr. Manning, how do they expect for him to employ people to be able to sit in this way as a businessman if they don't support people like Mr. Mannington? It ain't just Freddie Manson. I think it's thousands business people out there wouldn't need the support from the government. Millions of dollars just wasting billions of dollars. Then you get these rich people, them who doing this. Look, look at the governments. Them. I don't know if to say both governments. Them, they're more supportive of these people who own the web shop the numbers where you could go and gamble and lose all your money. You know, I feel like even, even those people who get all the money, if they really the care about the country, people like who pushing beheming music and different things to. To keep this town. Because they always saying ain't nothing here to do when they come here. They gotta go, you know, make up their own thing on the key or whatsoever. So I think even the number man, them this partner, private partner, public partnership. What they doing with the government making all these millions of dollars, that's where they could stay rich. Let's make some other people rich too, man. Add some more to Freddie money so he could help some more people. Yeah, you know, let's. Let's open this entertainment. So you get property, get land. Not, not on Bay street, but maybe over the hill a little bit. So. Absolutely. Why it's so hard? People like Fred Mitchell, Prime Minister Davis, them, we need their attention. He's the minister of finance. These people ain't asking for no money and they poke it. No, they have to pay land revenue and different things. Maybe we could, we could do some concessions, man. [01:24:59] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:25:00] Speaker A: How do you say it? Incentive. Yes, do some incentive with them and Work along with them. It's a cry and shame on us black people how we just treat one another. They said the UBP was treating these people people embedded in that the black people who who doing the entertain charge. Prime Minister Davis, Prime Minister Celine Hubert Ingram. Minutes all right. And. And Christine enough being done. I think it's a crying shame and I think we need to encourage the government to give them what they need to get even. I was thinking I say I wonder if it's too big for Mr. Manning them to own a cruise ship come together. You know the government put the majority it even if it's a grant or it's a loan or whatever why not I think we not just our country we can do anything come that we could leave this. Leave this place and maybe get out of the way again. But Freddie Manson could have nightclubs. We could be doing this thing with it to do with the cat and fiddle on the. On the ocean on the sea. [01:25:53] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:25:54] Speaker A: I think it's a lot of creative ideas they have there. They just need the support from the government and it's a crying shame and and. And nasty thinking petty and spiteful. Those who feel like you always blaming the government. What more Freddie money to me. Why don't he do this? Why don't you do it? Why you don't understand that this money and whatsoever in this town is all our own collectively. And just like you could push the number man them and make sure the number man them be successful. We need to do it for the entertainers. [01:26:18] Speaker B: Amen. [01:26:20] Speaker C: You are spot on my brother. Spot on. Papa. Thank you so very much for your contribution because you are making plenty plenty sense. But just to. To just to add to what you have said Papa Simp is simple. We've asked for the entertainment Encouragement act so that the local investors can invest in the entertainment industry. What do you do with people once the sun go down? That's why they call them nightclubs. I was reminded the other day by a very good friend during the day they want to be on the beach, they want to go play golf, they want to play tennis, go swimming, blah blah inside. So you have nightclubs. And that's why we forest we flourished because as I said earlier in the show the visitor had to leave those hotels that are lodging places for them to come over the hill for the attractions. And so we are saying let's partner with the lodging companies like the hotels and let's send the people over the hill so they have a true, true Bahamian experience. [01:27:21] Speaker A: Yes. [01:27:21] Speaker C: All right. They could go to your club in Fox Hill. They could go in Gambia, they could go in Baintown. They can go in Clifton and have an experience. They could go out by where you used to live in Mount Pleasant and have a wonderful experience. The point that we're making, let the money trickle down to the Bahamian people. [01:27:40] Speaker B: It's not good enough for the government to wait for Bahamians to start businesses and then talk about taxing them. [01:27:45] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:27:46] Speaker B: And making sure you registered so they could tax you properly. That ain't the role of government. [01:27:50] Speaker C: You got to generate money first. [01:27:52] Speaker B: Come on, generate opportunity. We've become specialists in government where unfortunately most of the people who create these policies, they never run no business. [01:28:01] Speaker C: Slap on the vax tax. [01:28:02] Speaker B: Yes. [01:28:02] Speaker C: That's a consumer tax. Yes. That's not an entrepreneurial tax. Why don't we give incentives for those who invest in industry? Incentivize us. [01:28:12] Speaker B: Then you go looking for them. Oh, you better register so we can talk to you. Yeah, no, you gotta be more than that. Let's go back to the phone lines here on Guardian Radio. Today caller, you are live on Guardian Radio. And we had a tax to say. He should, he should have said better he mean Regan scrape was, was, was bought. So yeah, yeah, we got you. [01:28:31] Speaker A: We got you. [01:28:31] Speaker C: We got you. [01:28:31] Speaker B: Dexter, Go ahead, call up. [01:28:33] Speaker A: That's Good Afternoon 52. [01:28:35] Speaker B: What's going on, brother? [01:28:36] Speaker A: Mr. Freddie Mannings. Yes, it was a pleasure and I glad I listened to the whole show. It's quite nostalgic for somebody like me was 61 so I let Mr. Manners know I, I, I, I went to the Cat and Fiddle to watch some wrestling matches and stuff like that. But I know my father used to go there. I'm familiar with Ronnie's Rebel Room, the King and Knight. Oh yes, and all of those places. So I kind of know what the sweet old days and so to listen to you. Right. [01:28:55] Speaker C: Yes sir. [01:28:55] Speaker A: I want you to be encouraging because I, I respect you differently and you cannot be dismayed by, you know, political haughty men who can't even see and thanks for exposing Sandy Sans and people who put on these profiles to the public. Right. [01:29:09] Speaker B: And not in the newspaper, by the way. [01:29:11] Speaker C: We ain't just call our name denigrated us. [01:29:14] Speaker A: He denigrated us publicly changing it was just put on a new costume. And so then you look at the way they treat us as they relate to concessions, et cetera, et cetera. You see what they really think of as uncle said something very important in which they wait until you start a Business. And then they come down and swoop on you like, you know, it's really like democracy masterpiece. Where they keep the power with police and oppression and taxes. And it's designed that way. But you should have asked a bit if he ever had a government contract, because I've never had one. I run a little poster shop my mom gave me and I just deal with strictly what I know. And I do most of the work with my friend who's coming at me, who I can't do it without. But what I'm saying is you don't brag about yourself. I've turned down government contracts because I don't believe in politics. Any man who making a living of politics and contracts, I don't respect them. I might still tell you that right now. But as it relates to our history, we know that Moors were on Columbus ship. We know that because they were spending 700 years. And we also know, right, that it is not designed for us to know our history because they never wanted us to know it. [01:30:17] Speaker C: The truth will set you free, my friend. [01:30:20] Speaker B: Yes. [01:30:22] Speaker C: 52 is a powerful, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant man. 52. [01:30:26] Speaker B: The only thing is, man, I mind getting no government going drop. I mind my brother. Don't. Don't do that to my man. [01:30:33] Speaker C: Because we the government. We are the government. [01:30:35] Speaker B: We the government. [01:30:36] Speaker C: Take that contract, yeah. As long as you do an honest day's work. [01:30:40] Speaker B: Take that point we making right now. Let's run back to the phone lines and we'll go to the text line here on Guardian Radio today. Call it. You're alive. [01:30:48] Speaker A: Hi, how you doing? [01:30:49] Speaker B: Doing great, man. Thanks for calling. [01:30:51] Speaker A: All right. Hello to you, check host. And hello to Mr. Money. [01:30:57] Speaker C: Yes, good afternoon, sir. [01:31:01] Speaker B: Speaker, speak right into your phone. You're coming in a little low. [01:31:04] Speaker A: Well, I was listening to you guys for quite a while. Yeah. Sometime back I spoke to Mr. Money. I think he had a store on Carmichael. Is that it? A store, A bookstore or so? [01:31:16] Speaker C: No, no, no, no. Never had a bookstore. May have been a relative. [01:31:20] Speaker A: Yeah, a relative. Okay. But my thing is that what I'm concerned about, I'm thinking I was telling somebody the other day a lot of things, my feeling is that it should have stayed and stayed in the hands of the Bahamians. Another thing, what concerned me was the moving of the mobile properties out. Yes, quite a. I. Quite a bit of people, they disagree with me. They're saying, they're talking about foreign investment, direct investment. My thing I said to them is that monies could have been spent by the Bahamians. I said, bahamians got a lot of money. The same what that program is they had with peak tourists coming in and living over the hills. People to people, people to people. Programs like that, I think would have been good. Because my thing is that most. The big hotels and stuff, most of the money go back out. [01:32:17] Speaker C: Oh, absolutely. [01:32:19] Speaker A: So my thing is that if you could support yourself and you growing gradually, that's what you need. You don't need to have people come in, make half of your money, send it back out, and you feel like they're doing you such a big favor. [01:32:34] Speaker C: In today's world, the money don't even come into the country. They, they. They take your money before you leave where you're coming from, and that money is prepaid. And they don't even have their bank accounts in the Bahamas. [01:32:46] Speaker A: Right. Most of them talking about the movable property stock. My thing is that I told someone the other day, and we had a good argument. I said, listen, you right now, you cannot buy a piece of property for your children. The cost has gone up so much because it says that whenever foreigners come and get them. And then those same places, if we had that money, we could have built places where you have. What is it, the program they had people to people, people to people. But I mean, today you go and you rent a. What? [01:33:22] Speaker B: Airbnb. [01:33:23] Speaker A: Airbnb. You know how much money that could have been pouring into our country? [01:33:28] Speaker C: Well, here again, you may have remembered we mentioned the Bahamianization policy, and that policy was, you know, you didn't sell our land to foreign direct investors. They had to lease the land. Even if they leased it for 99 years, eventually it'll come back to the Bahamian people's ownership. But today, they can buy Bahama, purchase the land. So now they own our land, and the government gave them 50 acres of our land somewhere over on Gladstone Road for their backup house. So they own the land. [01:33:55] Speaker B: That's crazy. [01:33:56] Speaker C: They own paradise island now. They ain't leasing it no more. They own it. So, you know, you. You don't sell your land, man. No, your land is your real estate. [01:34:05] Speaker B: Let's run back to the phone lines. We got a minute or two. Caller, you are on Guardian Radio today. Call her. Going once. All right, let's run to the next call. [01:34:19] Speaker A: I listen to the show very intently, but the question we have to ask is, what's now, what's new, and what's next? Believe it or not, many of the restriction and boundaries that we speak of does not exist in the 21st century. Unequivocally, I can tell you, Freddie and anyone in another show, there is no prohibition for any bohemian having access to the billions of dollars available in the country today by answering two questions. And this is where the whole concept of the new financing, what we call fintech and whatever the problem is that we're 18 years behind the curve. And I think until we move to an ownership opportunity and ownership economy and have an actual conversation of educating people, what it means and what access to those digital tools does, we could flip this economy in less than two years. And I would take all of your. All your actual, actual science people, engage me and just simply let me stay what is. And invite them with a reward if they could discount. [01:35:22] Speaker B: See, Alan, I gotta bring you on just to do a show with just you, man. [01:35:25] Speaker A: Thank you so much. [01:35:25] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Well, listen, we can give the last word to our guests. Mr. Munnings Jr. My Uncle Freddie. What say ye? [01:35:33] Speaker C: Well, certainly it was a pleasure always to. I like to listen to you because as I told you before, you're one of my favorite historians and radio hosts and educators. [01:35:45] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:35:46] Speaker C: But it was a pleasure to be here with you to share some of my knowledge and experience in the industry. And I just hope that Bahamians begin to understand that this is our country. We have to build our country with our hands. Yes, we welcome foreign direct investors, but what we are simply saying to our government respective when we sign those sure that behavior humans are included in the process either as partners or we are in the loop so that they can work along with the foreign direct investors so some of that money trickles down to the masses of our people so that we can grow our country and we could control the economic destiny of our people. [01:36:30] Speaker B: Amen. Listen, I wish we had more time and there's so many different other elements to this conversation that we do weren't able to touch today. But I'm so grateful for your presence here today, Uncle Freddie. Freddie Munnings Jr. Was our guest today. And we just want better, right? Nothing personal against Sandy Sans or anybody. Okay? [01:36:51] Speaker C: Of course. [01:36:51] Speaker B: Let's just do better. [01:36:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:36:53] Speaker B: All right. We're putting some things on the table so bohemians, get involved in your own liberation, man. Thank you. This has been Guardian Radio today. My name is Kahunan kusara, known as Dr. Cleveland W Eneas III. Keep it locked here on 96.9 FM where we have fresh news Smart talk. All day. [01:37:23] Speaker C: Into my life, I pray.

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