Guardian Radio Today - August 14 2025

[00:00:00] Speaker A: The views and opinions of the hosts and guests are their own and do. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Not necessarily reflect the views of the. [00:00:07] Speaker A: Management and staff of Guardian Radio. [00:00:23] Speaker C: Guardian Radio Today is brought to you. [00:00:26] Speaker A: By Alive Burger King, the Cleveland Clinic. [00:00:29] Speaker C: Commonwealth Bank, Epic Battery, Janae's Uniform Center, Marco's Pizza, the Shoe Depot, Printmasters, and Ron's Electric Motors. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Good day, everyone. Good day. Good day. This is Guardian Radio Today, Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM here in Nassau, Bahamas. You've just been tuned into news and you heard from C.A. nury. I heard him making an attempt to be a comedian, telling his dirty joke of a horse jumping over the fence and landing in a puddle. Well, we wish him well in his comic career. And for all of you other comedians out there, I do pray that as the sun continues to shine on our Bahama land, that you continue to make others laugh. Because, you know, every now and then we turn on the radio and we hear things that we don't really like to hear about. And sometimes it only takes just a laugh, a comic relief to just reset the stage. And I used to say back in the day, everything cool. You know, everything cool. Well, we're gonna have a good show today. I know the traffic is very, very thick out there as I want you to continue to drive safely. Just be courteous to the other drivers on the road. And, you know, anytime you have somewhere to be, you know, there's always those slow drivers. I don't know where they come from at 12 o'. Clock. I thought Bahamian people would be hungry at 12 o', clock, hurry to get their lunch. But some people probably pondering, what am I going to eat today? Let me see. And so I don't know, I. I tend to know what I want to eat from the time you see 10, 11 o', clock, I know what I want for lunch and I'm so thankful the day that you know what you want for lunch. You want to listen to Guardian today for lunch and you know I'm going to bring a meal to you. It's going to be juicy, it's going to be scrumptious, it's going to be delicious. And I just want to throw those numbers out there really, really quickly to you. 323-623-2225-431632-54259. Anywhere from the family of Island 300-5720 or you can text in at 422-4796. And I haven't even started to show yet and someone is calling in, what is this? Should I take that call already. Let's see what this call has to say. [00:03:09] Speaker B: Go ahead. [00:03:09] Speaker A: Call her caller. Go ahead. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Hey, God, what's up? [00:03:14] Speaker A: I'm good. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah. What happened to the revolution? [00:03:18] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm trying to start the show. You woke up with the revolution on your mind. [00:03:23] Speaker B: I just wouldn't know what happened to the revolution. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Well, this is Guardian today. I can talk Guardian today and I'm. [00:03:29] Speaker B: Trying to talk the revolution. [00:03:31] Speaker A: I'm talking Guardian today. [00:03:33] Speaker B: You can't answer for your boy Howard. What happened to the revolution? [00:03:35] Speaker A: I gotta let you go. You don't understand. I'm trying to start something and you're trying to finish me. I can't have that today. Not today. Today is Thursday, man. When you want to have those types of questions, there is a number you can call. 302-2300. If you want to sponsor a show to find out what happens to revolutions and what happens to other people and you want to get in their business, give Guardian Radio a call and you can spend your money. And if they accept your money, then it means you could say what you want to say. If they do not accept your money, then I guess they're not really interested in what you have to say. So that's not my call. I'm not a manager, I'm not executive. I don't own the station. [00:04:11] Speaker B: I. [00:04:12] Speaker A: What I have been given is an opportunity to sit here with you today to fill in. The word is fill in. I am the host of Remark, which is a show on Sunday from 5 to 6:30. Every Sunday, 5 to 6:30. That's my business. That's my show. And I'm sitting here today as a courtesy of the Guardian team for the show Guardian Today. Now, Guardian today can talk about anything in the newspaper that you see there if you want to discuss that. But of course, you know, I got something juicy for you. So you got to tell me whether you want the juice or you simply just want the vegetable. I don't know which one you want. I know they got something called vegetable juice. Maybe we can mix that up a little bit. But I have concerns, and one of the concerns I have today, and I'm joined here by Gabby. You know, she came in here looking like lunch. I got to tell her husband she looked like lunch today. Greet the people quickly, Gabby, and then let's do what we got to do. [00:05:10] Speaker C: Good afternoon, Bahamas. It's always a pleasure to be here, you know, on Guardian 96.9 FM. You know, I. I love to be in the House where fresh news, smart talk all day is always present. God. So thank you. [00:05:26] Speaker A: So you like that? [00:05:27] Speaker C: I love that. I love that. [00:05:28] Speaker A: That's why you keep coming back. [00:05:29] Speaker C: That's why I keep coming back. [00:05:31] Speaker A: I thought it was me, but mother suck, you name me. It ain't nobody else around here. It's just that you just like the radio station, period. [00:05:38] Speaker C: God doing stuff, you know, I stop. [00:05:40] Speaker A: For what I trying to live. I know I go to many different offices around the country and that the television screen is stuck on Guardian 9649. I know they listen to what we got to say. [00:05:51] Speaker C: Yeah, we always have something to say. And the public knows that on this station they're going to be educated, they're going to be informed. And somewhere along the lines, the truth prevails on this radio. [00:06:04] Speaker A: You know, entertainment here, like saying you any little horsey, dirty horse story, of. [00:06:07] Speaker C: Course you're going to be entertained. [00:06:08] Speaker A: That's a clown, eh? Please make good hot sauce, though person. Call me on the line again. Okay, Go ahead, call it. Let me see what you got to say. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Hey, I. I normally is calling right God, but I call it in the day just because, God, you got a beautiful voice and a beautiful young lady in there. [00:06:27] Speaker C: You watch it on the live because the fit is fitting today. [00:06:30] Speaker A: My boy, my boy, my boy, my boy. Listen, let me tell that story. I can tell you because I ain't gonna talk plenty. I just said I want to say quick when I have Gabby here, all the fellas call my phone after the show. All. Every last one. That gal in there. But she sound good. All the ones who watch it on the tv. Oh, she look good, right? The women, the women now. Oh, Lord, no, no, no, no. We ain't want her. We want her. We want Davin. Darwin's bike holds on Sunday and Darwin has a death in the family, so he won't be joining us until Monday. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Sunday would give me hook guy or. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Sunday you listen on Sunday last. [00:07:08] Speaker B: I catch peace on Sunday. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Oh, you catch peace. But you sound like. Either you play numbers or you find this gal, you finally catch her, will you catch peace? [00:07:18] Speaker B: Look here, I. I say I hook God. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Oh, you hook. [00:07:21] Speaker B: I. I told him yesterday. I told him day before yesterday, but I tuned in today because she tell me Sunday that she can be here with you today. [00:07:32] Speaker A: Models, what is this? And then you got the woman around me out for Davin and say when he can reach. And David ain't reaching till Monday. [00:07:39] Speaker B: So if you look at. If you're looking for me to Listen to you any further during the week. [00:07:44] Speaker A: Oh, Jesus. [00:07:46] Speaker C: He needs a message to stay in the building. [00:07:51] Speaker B: You're putting it together. God. But so I. I just call it that, you know that. I was looking forward to hearing you all two together, and I looking forward to a good conversation with you all to inside of the day, man. Two of my favorite people on there. What? This could be a grand time today. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Oh, we thank you all the same. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Y' all have a great show, man. [00:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, I'm tuned in. [00:08:11] Speaker B: I'm tuned in. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Thank you, man. You know, Gabby is a problem to me because Gabby gotta understand that My birthday is July 14th. Her husband is July 15th. You can believe that. Now, who come first, the chicken or the egg? Who come first, the old man or the new man? I just want to know, okay? I just want to know. I just. I just want to know. Well, greetings once again to all and sundry. Our Guardian staff is always good to be here with you. It's always great to read the newspapers, listen to the commentary, listen to the other talk shows. There's always something interesting. I happened to just simply. I caught a piece of Chicago line yesterday, and he. He had a good show yesterday. I'm still working. I'm supposed to be on vacation, but I'm still working, doing the renovation jobs and beekeeping and. And of course, I'm sitting here with you today on Guardian today. And so those numbers again, I'm just gonna throw them out quickly so I could jump. Could I just jump into what I want to jump into? [00:09:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:03] Speaker C: This is gonna be hard. Okay. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Three, two, three, six. Two, three, two, three, two five, four, three one six. 325-4259. Anywhere from the family of islands. 300-5720. Or you can text at 422-4796. Now, Gabby, here's the situation. I know I gotta start with a little bit of Bible thing because y' all people love Bible. So let me. Let me just start with the Bible. I don't want. [00:09:25] Speaker C: Let me tell you why. [00:09:26] Speaker A: Let me tell you why I do that. I don't want no one mistake me and crucify me. So I want to let you know the platform from which I begin. It's just a story, but I want you to know about this particular story. This particular story speaks of a man starting in the book of Matthew. I mean, there were prophecies about him before that, but it starts in this book called Matthew. And in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. This individual was born in a manger in a Stable. And, you know, he was a young man like everybody else growing up until he was 12. And then he went to church one day and he was teaching. He was teaching the church leaders. Now let me start with that first. The 12 year old was teaching the scribes and the Pharisees and the priest. This young man, 12 years old, that was kind of interesting, right? And then he goes to a party like you young people like to party, and goes to the party and takes the water and he changes that into the finest of wine. That was what they called the first miracle, right? And there were other miracles after that that he performed, like making the blind see, healing leprosy. He made the lame to walk and the dead, the deaf to hear and the dumb to talk. And he never heals stupid people, though. Stupid people just stay stupid. I just want you to understand that ain't no healing for stupid people other than education. And I know that, Uncle Sarah, he had a show earlier this week with Dr. Dwight Strong. I mean, not Dwight, sorry. Dwight may be a doctor too, but Ian Strawn is about education. And the only way you can change ignorance is just simple knowledge and education. Okay? So we're not calling anybody stupid today. We're just simply saying that all of us, including God, may not Roseborough. We always need more education. And that's why we have this talk show today, Guardian Talk Radio, because why? This allows us to have a dialogue. And I may not necessarily be right, I may not be wrong, but we can talk about these things and hopefully we can come to an accord with all the miracles that this gentleman does. He feeds 5,000 people with two fish and five loaves. Whether you believe the story or not. He calms the hurricane, you know, the storm. He walks on water. He does these things. He takes a prostitute and makes her restored with dignity and honor. This is the type of gentleman this was. Insomuch that when he parades through a street, they said, hosanna. Hosanna. And they had the palms and they were waving the palms. And this here is hosanna to the king. Weeks after that, he goes ahead and he goes into the temple and realizes that every church is not a church. Some churches are just for making money. Let me just say it straight. That's just what it is. Some of y' all ain't safe. Some of y' all ain't saved. Now see, I say all. I say some of y' all ain't saved. Every preacher is not a real preacher because that same book says that there are wolves. In what, sheep clothing and we got plenty of them. But let me move on from that, because that ain't the show. I just trying to get to something here. In all of these things that he did miraculously, he did wonderfully. Well, this is the same man. When he turned those tables over, the chief priest went to the government and told the government, we got to deal with this man. Now, one of the people who followed him out of the 12 was Judas Iscariot, who went and got his 30 pieces of silver to betray this wonderful man. The same people who he blessed, the same people who he encouraged, the same people who he healed, the same people who he gave example to and gave promises to were the same people who said, crucify him. Can I say that? And they put him on the cross and they crucified him. And you know the rest of the story, how he resurrects and so forth. I'm not trying to evangelize or preach to anybody. But I'm saying that to say this to you, that many times, people who do good works in this country either go unrecognized or we crucify them. We crucify the wrong people. And I'm sure we have some good politicians, we have some good preachers. We have some good lawyers. We have some good doctors. We have some good educators. We have many good people. But the system. Can I say that word? The system. The system has a way of sometimes turning against such people. Now, when the system turns on you, you need to define for me today. Is it possible that you can outpower the system? Or does the system always win and overpower you? Let me give you an example. In another country. Let's go. Let's go. North United States of America. Martin Luther King, does he overpower the system, or does a system overpower him? Malcolm X, does the system. I lose my mic. Did the system overpower him or did he overpower the system? That's what we want to know. [00:14:30] Speaker B: Now. [00:14:31] Speaker A: Let's go to the Bahamas. We have issues in this country. We have issues. We have problems. We've been having problems for a very long time. Extremely long time. The problems that we have that exist are problems of crime, problems of immigration, problems in the education system, problems in social services, problems in national security, problems in tourism, problems in youth and sports, problems in environment. We have problems that never seem to be fully solved. Now, these problems happen, it seems. And you can correct me today. Whether the PLP or the FNM is in power. It doesn't matter who's in power. It doesn't matter which governing political organization is in power. We have these same problems. And I listened to Guardian Radio, I listened to the commentary, I listened to us, how easy we are able to pinpoint the nature of the problems. And we continue to try to discover the solutions. So this is how I think. And you can tell me if I'm thinking, okay, if politicians, prime ministers, cabinet ministers and members of parliament, if they come and they go, but the problem still exists, prime ministers, cabinet ministers and members of parliament, they come and they go and the problem still exists, is the problem truly our representatives, or is our problem the system? [00:16:22] Speaker B: Now. [00:16:24] Speaker A: When we deem that the problem is representative, we quickly change them up. We say, you know what? I vote for them. No more, they're gone. And then the next person comes along in five years time and the problem is still there and they're gone. And we've seen this for over the last 20 years. So what is the staple? What is the stable in all of this that says as they come and they go, I need to understand today, by way of management, who is the one person or entity that is consistent throughout all of the 20 plus years because we're trying to solve a problem, or if we don't want to solve the problem, then we don't need to understand how the system really works. So that's what I want to touch on today. Gabby, you want to say something to what I'm saying today. Am I crazy or is my philosophy a little bit off balance in terms of trying to discover the solution? [00:17:21] Speaker C: I think what you're doing here right now is giving us a little bit of civic education, or civic education that we've been, a lot of us have been lobbying for to be mandated in schools. Not an option, but mandated. [00:17:34] Speaker A: You need to mandate this. [00:17:35] Speaker C: It should be mandated. Because when you don't understand the system of governance or what happens in your country at large in general, then you become frustrated even quickly with it. So what? A lot of people don't. I don't. I don't even know if you know this, but I have a BSc in education. I have a background in education. [00:17:59] Speaker B: You do, so. [00:18:00] Speaker C: So you was taking me a little bit to the classroom and I know you gave me a little homework assignment. So as I was preparing my lesson plan, you know, I made my little footnotes. Oh, you did all that and everything. Because I want to make sure that we're having an informed discussion, not just on feelings and emotions, but an informed discussion on what presently exists and what we're dealing with. And when we Say government. Do we understand that governments are successive? [00:18:34] Speaker A: That is a very strong, continuous, very strong point. And I've heard other parties, third parties, whatever's the name of your party say that we're going to come in and we're going to change the way things are done in this country. We're going to revolutionize everything. We're going to turn things around. We have so many resources that we can depend on to change this country, and we're going to make sure that everyone in this country is going to get a piece of this piece of. And so what I hear when they say that to me, I kind of wonder, do they truly understand this continuance that you speak about or this successive nature of governance? Or do they truly understand the strength of the system that they now are about to want to challenge? [00:19:18] Speaker C: And who's really in charge? [00:19:20] Speaker A: Well, see, this is why I said. [00:19:22] Speaker C: I don't think they understand who's really in charge. Because oftentimes when we see our representatives out there on the campaign trails, they tell us that they work for us, that they're doing the work for us. But when they get there and they're elected, who is really the boss? [00:19:44] Speaker A: Okay. [00:19:44] Speaker C: Many of them are met with that. Who really holds the keys to the kingdom. And oftentimes, we've seen the stories sometimes play out and spell out into the public of the minister versus the boss who runs the ministry. That's who is in charge. That's a very good question because you were elected here, you were sent here and someone told you that you're in charge. [00:20:19] Speaker A: That's. That's what you saw when you come in. Let me take this call and see what they're saying. Caller, go ahead. Good day. Good day. How are you doing? [00:20:27] Speaker B: Good day to y'. All. So they say, don't stammer, man. [00:20:31] Speaker A: Your fellas got me in trouble. The women don't. Anyway, go ahead. [00:20:35] Speaker B: That's what they said. [00:20:35] Speaker A: I know, go ahead, go ahead. [00:20:36] Speaker B: You know what I mean? So I just going along with that, but go ahead. They are. Who's in charge? Right. They also said what I'm chiming on. And then, you know, it's been a month since your birthday, but from two weeks ago, there was an announcement in San Salvador for $53 million to be spent on 40 miles of road and to dredger the harbor and put some birch in there, right? Have they given us any details on what that's all about? Because they'll need basically announced from Club Mayor to Corbin Town and Corbin Town to Sugarloaf, which is about 6, 7 miles of road to be paved. Who really should be. Who's supposed to be in charge. You know of that? Because 40 miles of road and $53 million. We need to look into that. Remember the Eight Mile Rock situation? [00:21:29] Speaker A: Isn't that something? We talk about that some time ago. We already forgot about that. [00:21:33] Speaker B: No, no, ain't that something? I mean, you forget about it. [00:21:36] Speaker A: But I got to talk for everybody behind the mic. [00:21:38] Speaker B: No, the chattering. The chattering class don't forget. Don't they call us the chattering class. We don't forget what they say. We have to hold their feet to the fire. So that's something. Remember the glass window bridge? [00:21:50] Speaker A: I'm listening. [00:21:51] Speaker B: And then they try to give some crazy detail and they have an accountant to us who in charge have an account for $2.5 million, but they spend on that so called. They didn't want to say it was a King Air and they didn't want to say what it was. They tried to say that they were going to buy a King Air for government workers where the plane is. And then one other thing. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:14] Speaker B: They're saying that, you know that indictment in New York? They say that some talk coming out about some names calling about some further indictments because that case supposed to be ongoing. What does Guardian News know on keeping up with that case? Because you all are the media, right? [00:22:34] Speaker A: Well, I appreciate your commentary today. You have some pretty strong points there. I think we want to get to the bottom of this because at times we do point fingers at a particular group, government or a particular individual. But definitely there is somebody who's definitely responsible. Not for five years, but for the last 20 years. And if you were to take the time to look at their performance, then the question is, what can we do if we can do anything? But I know one thing is certain. At the end of this conversation, we're gonna have to give some respect to some people because guess what? Like CB Moss told my mother, when Volkswagen see big bus come in, Volkswagen parks on the side. Let me take this text here really quickly, Gabby. It says, God, you cannot compare Malcolm X and Reverend King to any personalities here in the Bahamas. Those men were real leaders who provided an atmosphere for followership, not mere fellowship. These bohemian men are not leaders. Just male men who razzle and dazzle weak people in need of a massa, which is slave derogatory term, with or without a stick. None of these bohemian politicians were or are willing to die for righteousness, country, or even Pete's sake. Just party on. And then I got another quick text. Gabby that may make you smile, I tell you, causing me trouble. It says gossip. Did you just call Gabby lunch Lord Laugh loud. [00:24:07] Speaker C: Don't cause me get in trouble when. [00:24:08] Speaker A: I come off this radio, you know, out loud. Hope she ain't got no man, sir. [00:24:13] Speaker C: I have a whole lot laugh out loud. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Well I then tell y' all I was born on the 14th. This man was born on the 15th. We got to fix this, Gabby. 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[00:27:43] Speaker C: They just appreciate, you know, this, the estrogen. No, no, no, no, no. [00:27:48] Speaker A: They're trying to set somebody. No, they're trying to set me up. [00:27:51] Speaker C: They appreciate the view, the point of view that I bring to the show. God, that's all. [00:27:56] Speaker A: I try to keep smart people around me. That's why her and Darwin, I, I gotta stay. When I got up this morning. I spoke to another media personality this morning. And Gabby, in light of what we're saying today, they shared a text from the same Bible, from the book of Isaiah 6. And you know, you read the story 1 to 12, but it's about a king by the name of Uzziah who died. And when he died, the person who wrote said, I saw the Lord high and exalted, seated on a throne and the train of his robe filled the temple. Now they said, until some people made kings, political giants die, their parties die, our country will not progress to the places God would have the Bahamas to be. That was, that was their response to that scripture this morning. And so I just wanted to read that to you to let you know that some people are so frustrated that they feel like we gotta, like God, gotta call some of these people home so we could make some progress in this country. So the question now for me once again is if the politicians come and go and the problem remains, it doesn't matter who it is, then who is responsible and whoever's responsible. Are you saying that we can assist them in changing the system or they can willingly change the system, or are we saying that God just got to do his job? Callie on the line. Go ahead. [00:29:24] Speaker B: Hey, good afternoon to both of you. [00:29:26] Speaker A: Good afternoon. [00:29:28] Speaker B: The question I think is asked, who's in charge? [00:29:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, you can tackle that. You can tackle that for us today. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Man, I can tackle that one. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Boy, I beginning to like you more and more today. Go ahead, let me hear this. [00:29:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Because there seems to be an automated system Here that's causing us humans to, to become liabilities to all business establishments, as you can clearly see. And it appears to me that the most profitable extinction that is in human face, right in your face, is this self select that we are being forced to choose out of this life cycle. I'm talking about humanity. I call it self euthanasia. If you can look at it, you see the people committing suicide, you see the bills getting high. You see there's really no clear path to wealth, particularly in this country and all around the world. Now, if you go back in time, there were probably in history about 400,000 plantations, right? And then when slavery was abolished, each one of those owners were paid close to something like $1.5 billion in today's currency, that money. Now I assume that money is now being used by the IMF to lend countries to keep them further in debt, because I want to know. Most of that IMF money seems to be European. I don't know any African country that has any of that IMF money. All right, so where did they get all that money from? Since I could trace 400,000 plantations and 1.5 billion to each one of those plantations. So who is in charge? [00:30:58] Speaker A: Who's in charge? [00:30:59] Speaker B: All right, so when you look at as countries moving through this IMF journey, mind you, they want you to continue to pay, but they don't want you to pay it off. All right, who's in charge? I think I answered your question for. [00:31:13] Speaker A: You, man, but I enjoyed this call. Thank you so much, my brother. Can I take another caller, please? Call it. Go ahead. [00:31:20] Speaker B: Hey, God, how are you? And you? Guess this is your boy comedian. How you doing? [00:31:24] Speaker A: Oh, I'm good, man. I'm good, I'm good. What's going on? [00:31:27] Speaker B: Radio. Radio. I think what we have is a conundrum. That's what we have. [00:31:32] Speaker C: Conundrum. [00:31:34] Speaker A: Go ahead. Listening. Sounds big. [00:31:39] Speaker B: Let me ask you, guest, I like your guests. You don't take no prisoners. [00:31:42] Speaker A: Oh. [00:31:46] Speaker B: Let me ask, let me ask you guests a question. In the school curriculum, do we have a subject called common sense? [00:31:55] Speaker C: Unfortunately, that's not listed anywhere in the Ministry of Education's curriculum. [00:32:02] Speaker B: So I listened to these shows all week and I couldn't get a steady hand until one or two shows, but until today, your shows, and I think the last show, the guy, he started to really bring a little bit of semblance and sense to this thing. But so all of us gone to college, get all these degrees, engineering, doctor's, lawyers, and then, you know, it's Kind of common sense. [00:32:25] Speaker A: Sometimes it eludes us. [00:32:29] Speaker C: Knowledge is powerful, but I like to take it a step further and say the application of knowledge is power. So you have a lot of educated, and I use this term loosely, fools running around. They are armed with the knowledge that they need, but they either willfully or unwillfully choose not to use it, not to apply it. And I think that's where the common sense comes in. [00:33:00] Speaker B: I think you're right and I think that can be, I don't know, one of the other problems. I don't know we eaten up these minutes on these, but I don't have much minutes. But I'd like to take that conversation because I think that's one of the twists of the whole problem right there. And if you look at our country, you see of all these especially like engineers, city engineers, I see one car, I see nothing. Everything is a prototype with a spot. Like I said, I said deep sister. We'll deal with that another day. Lastly, you know what I think our problem is? And this is what I've been hearing Todd around all week that's very disturbing. What I think our problem is with crime. Like you say, no leadership because simply because who leading England is leading because. Let me ask this other question. Who can tell me, Judge, all judges over here answer this question. What is the waste of the waste? [00:33:50] Speaker A: You gotta tell me because I don't hang around voice of the worst people. But I hear you, I know what you're saying. [00:33:54] Speaker C: I feel like we left it so open to. We left it open. So who determines the worst of the worst? Because when we've seen in past young men abducted in Grand Bahama, raped, murdered, buried when we've seen, is that not the worst of the worst? I mean throughout our history I can point to so many things. I mean even in most recent times, a 72 year old woman home breaking into, raped and murdered. I mean what is the worst of the worst? Young Adriel? I mean I. We can point to so many instances. What is the worst of the word is. It's left to too much interpretation. Who interprets the worst of the worst? And until we close the gate gaps on these legal jargons, we're going to always be saying well I ain't think this the waste yet. [00:34:50] Speaker B: And, and, and, and until the gaps we bring in some smart judge who could determine that we can always be in this conundrum. You see, every time we talk about independence we say no. We give England the right to choose what but England can't even tell us what is the right. What is the waste of way. So we are in a serious canon. Hey, you guys. You have a good day. Nice talking. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Thank you for making the call. Next call on the line, please. Go ahead. [00:35:08] Speaker B: That's me and God. [00:35:11] Speaker A: You'Re echoing. You're echoing. You're echoing. [00:35:13] Speaker C: Come to the phone. [00:35:14] Speaker A: Echoing. [00:35:15] Speaker B: Can you hear me now? [00:35:17] Speaker A: I can. Go ahead. [00:35:20] Speaker B: Okay. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Mom. What's your name now? [00:35:23] Speaker C: Gabby. It's Gabby. You can just call me Gabby. [00:35:25] Speaker B: Gabby. Gabby. How you doing, Mom? [00:35:26] Speaker C: I'm doing wonderful. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Okay, okay. Okay. God. [00:35:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. [00:35:31] Speaker B: Listening. Listening to you. Right when you first start. Right. When you talk about the system, it almost sound like you're talking about being blocked out when you have something to offer, like almost like what they call blackballing. But before I say something on how you explained with the system just now, right how you say it. Don't. Don't fight me or just hear me. We so happy to have you. When you have time to come in, I know you got a deal with the bees and you have a lot of things. You say you're still on vacation. [00:36:11] Speaker A: You're correct. I suppose we have vacation. I'm not taking it just yet. I'm trying. [00:36:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:36:15] Speaker A: But I'm working around the clock. Go ahead. [00:36:17] Speaker B: Okay. God, I know you can hear that. We're happy to have you when you come in. Right. [00:36:22] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:36:23] Speaker B: I need you to sound more happy than you sound. [00:36:26] Speaker A: I. I want to sound happy, but let me tell you why I sound so solemn, because I know where I want to take this show. [00:36:34] Speaker B: You lift your voice just now, and I want you. I hope I go by hearing, not seeing. [00:36:39] Speaker A: I know, Papa, but I hope. I hoping y' all don't take me to God up and crucify me. [00:36:45] Speaker C: I think they ready for the conversation where the conversation is about to go. [00:36:48] Speaker B: G. Well, God, I don't think God make it take, you know, like, just like with a baby. [00:36:52] Speaker A: Uhhuh. [00:36:53] Speaker B: You take your time. [00:36:54] Speaker A: I trying to. I trying to get the palms. I know once y' all wave the palms, I know what coming next across. This is what I trying to tell you. I trying to go slow and. And I'm going, ladies and church, prayerfully. [00:37:05] Speaker B: You say the cross will come next. [00:37:06] Speaker A: Oh, man, it got to come. [00:37:08] Speaker C: It could come switch. [00:37:09] Speaker A: The only thing I hoping is I could find two teams, one for the left, one for the right to get crucified for you. [00:37:14] Speaker C: The cat of nine tails on this one. [00:37:16] Speaker B: That's what I'm trying to find I just need you to sound happier when he call in sometimes. [00:37:23] Speaker A: Oh, Lord. [00:37:25] Speaker B: Are you well? Everything okay? [00:37:26] Speaker A: All is well. All is well. I, I am happy to be here with you today. Guardian Today 96.9 FM. And as always, it's always great to hear from you. [00:37:35] Speaker B: That's it. God. God. So listen, on the system thing, which was talking about, right, God, I believe we used to blame collectively together, us, the people. Yeah. The politicians have some blame to carry on. The people who we put in authority. Now we getting somewhere, left us collectively together like we turned the engine, all the money spending and everything for them to allocate and be able to have anything or even to get in there. It's us, okay? Determining these things. It's us with our nasty, vindictive, spiteful, petty. [00:38:05] Speaker C: So you're getting somewhere, Papa. Who is the us, though? Who is, who's the us and where are these people deployed? Because we and God want to take this conversation somewhere without using a broad brush. [00:38:16] Speaker B: Gabby, we don't use in a broad. But can I say it this way? The majority of us, too much of us, okay? Too much of a standard. [00:38:23] Speaker A: What I'm gonna do, what I'm gonna do. But I got, I, I, I'm just. [00:38:28] Speaker C: Getting warm, getting hot. [00:38:29] Speaker A: But call back later in the show as we get hotter, and then I want to see if you sound just a bit more satisfied with my excitement. How about that? [00:38:35] Speaker B: Oh, but you sound great, brother. Sorry to do it that way, but I had to do it. [00:38:41] Speaker A: Hey, I appreciate you, man, all the way from the Village, man. Next caller, please. Caller, go ahead. [00:38:47] Speaker B: Good afternoon, guy. [00:38:49] Speaker A: Good afternoon. We're both guests here today, but go ahead. [00:38:52] Speaker B: You know, you know, but it's always a good pleasure, it's always a pleasure to talk on radio after the great Pauper, you know. Yeah, it's the one who taught me how to talk on radio. God, look at that. You know, he trained me. But, but God. But in respect to the previous caller prior to pauper who spoke on the death penalty, you know, we know what the voice of the voice are, you know, we know this. But for whatever reason, the legislators, the politicians don't want to have a death penalty in the Bahamas. I don't know. It's because of their action and their dealings, maybe some of it may be treasonous and they don't want to even face that, you know, but so this why the blood will continue to rise towards the horses bridle, you know, because you really believed God. Let's be frank. You really believe that they Trying to protect the common man who is doing the killing on the street. You really believe that? [00:40:00] Speaker A: That's a good question. [00:40:02] Speaker B: By not having that death penalty, you really believe they try to protect the spyglass on the street? [00:40:07] Speaker A: We trying to get to that, to the bottom of that today. That's exactly. [00:40:10] Speaker B: They're trying to protect themselves. And we know this. It's a good question because there's no way. There's no way. Politicians going to parliament cannot describe in law. What is the voice of the voice. That's elementary stuff. High school students right now can describe to you what is the voice of the voice. [00:40:34] Speaker A: That's a profound observation, you know, but. [00:40:36] Speaker B: They don't want to do it. These educated politicians don't want to do it. You know, just like our abortion law. I listen to. They're talking about the abortion law. What's this? What's this? Abortion in the Bahamas is legal or illegal? [00:40:53] Speaker C: It's illegal, right? [00:40:56] Speaker B: Because they acknowledge that the fetus is a human, it's a life. But if a pregnant woman, life gets. If a pregnant woman gets murdered, irrespective of how advanced she is in the pregnancy, you know, you know, the unborn child, life does not count. Think about it. [00:41:19] Speaker A: That's something. [00:41:20] Speaker B: But we have all kind of women in parliament, all kind of women who want to be in parliament. But I can't find one woman in public life who is prepared to correct this wrong to protect the unborn fetus. Not one of them. It even ain't an issue to them. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Well, that's a great observation. [00:41:40] Speaker B: You know, so it's so much, it's so much thing, you know, But I would like to see it placed on one of the party is platform. But the irony about this whole thing is, God, you all guys get up who do talk shows, who do prepare yourself for talk shows. You all do this thing every day. Every single day. You talk about the socioeconomic issues, we talk them out on how we can improve the country. But you know, as we approach Philly season, do you realize that all of these issues will be put to the back burner as we stand up and watch these politicians assemble themselves to do rallies, cracking jokes. [00:42:21] Speaker A: That's why we got to talk about this today. We got to chop this up. [00:42:24] Speaker B: We need to have political live debate. And it's so easy. Guardian Radio can host some. The other radio stations can host some. We have plenty parks in this area, plenty town halls. But there's no way, no way persons vying for the highest elected office in the country should be interviewed should duck an interview and be on stage cracking jokes. [00:42:53] Speaker A: I want to talk about that some more. [00:42:54] Speaker B: Listen drunk. [00:42:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I want to talk about that some more. Let me take this one more caller before the break. But yeah, I appreciate your call, man. That's a solid information. Let me take the next caller. Last caller before we go to the break. Go ahead. [00:43:06] Speaker B: Yeah, good afternoon. [00:43:07] Speaker A: Go ahead. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I listen to the callers, right with the death penalty, the issue is not what is the waste of the voice in terms of how you believe it to be. Issue is the voice of the waste that is set in law. That's what the free we call to keep saying you got to set what is the waste of ways in law. That's all they do. Parliament passed what is the worst of the waste and the pre records have got to abide by it. But we are not doing it. They didn't have the law. Every country has some form of voice of the wife. Murder one, murder two. Every country we don't have it. So when you left for interpretation, you will love for abuse. Where my son would get the voice away definitely. And your son will get 20 years because it left for interpretation of how to judge one field. So put in law. If you kill, like remember, remember Dingham tried to say you kill a police officer just and so forth, or you kill two people or whatever, whatever. Then the court have to abide by whatever Parliament said. But they're not doing it. That's what the problem is. Why? Why you don't have a voice in the way. We don't have a voice in the world. We just have what I believe, what you believe, what they don't believe. It ain't a law. [00:44:20] Speaker A: Hey, but I appreciate your call so much. Thank you for the call. Listen man, you. You folks are so intelligent. You know this common sense thing, I'm almost certain that we found it somewhere in our school school system. It may not be one of the genres or one of the disciplines, but I'm almost certain that many of us here in the Bahamas we do have a common sense about ourselves. Let me just say this to you. It takes a whole lot of sense to tune into Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. If you are a smart person, you sensible, you like good talk, you gotta tune into Guardian today. We're sitting here with you today. It's a beautiful Thursday. I see your text came in. I am going to read those texts first after the news. But listen man, keep those radios tuned in. I'm going to miss you for a few minutes. You men Leave Gabby alone. Darwin's gonna be back soon. You women. Please forgive me. Forgive me. I'm gonna have. I'm gonna have Gabby and Darvin sitting in the same studio. You think. You think I can be all right? [00:45:17] Speaker C: Then you should be fine. [00:45:19] Speaker A: Let's go listen to some news and get right back. When it comes to burgers and flavor, you already know he's the king, and he's the king of Crunch, the master of flavor. And he's gonna set your taste buds on. I'm talking about the new King Crunch sandwiches at Burger King Nassau. No cap on this one. Crispy fried onions, pepper jack cheese, and a bold chipotle sauce. Can't forget about the fixings that cover that crispy chicken patty. And if you love your beef patties, two flame grilled beef patties on BK's new King Crunch sandwiches. They're bigger, they're better and bolder than the other guys, but hurry. They're only at Burger King Nassau for a limited time, so try one today. [00:46:15] Speaker C: Don't wait for a storm to arrive, Stock up on hurricane supplies, make home repairs, purchase a generator and more this hurricane season with a fidelity personal only. Make that move today. Call 356-7764. [00:46:30] Speaker A: Fidelity. We're good for you. This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. [00:46:49] Speaker B: 96.9 FM. [00:47:02] Speaker C: She left a party. Have a good time. [00:47:09] Speaker B: She lives so hard to feel sometimes shifting cold. [00:47:25] Speaker A: What a day it is. What a day it is. Thursday here on Guardian Radio, 96.9, your new product program, Guardian today. I am in the house today with none other than Gabby. You know you're trying to get me in trouble with Gabby. I see your phone calls are coming in, but just hold on a minute for me or call right back. Got got to give me a little five, ten minutes. I'mma fix this thing. I got to fix this because I see y' all starting to go all over the place. You know, in the politics, we tend to sometimes get distracted. We trying to find who is responsible today for the management of this country. See, the MP come and the MP go. PLB. Come F&M come. PLB. Go FM. Go. Still got the same problems, huh? How long we've been having these same problems? These people work under a system. Who is the steward? Who. Who is the manager of that system? Who protects the system? Who protects the system of the police? National security. Who protects the system of tourism? Who protects the system of works? Who protects the system, huh? Of environment? Who protects these Systems of health. It ain't the mb, it ain't the cabinet minister. We want to think it's the Prime Minister, but these people come and go. But it's somebody who been there for 10, 15, 20 years, who ain't gone. [00:49:01] Speaker C: Nowhere yet, determined it to be affixed. [00:49:04] Speaker A: Just however the problems stay, they stay. Just how the system stay, they stay. They in charge. They are in charge. So much you say use the word D. So some of you all who understand what they is. I try to get deeper jolly getting dates. I got to go down today that we is a problem. [00:49:30] Speaker C: But who did. [00:49:31] Speaker A: Who did you hire with your taxpayer dollars to ensure that problems are fixed? Or is it that the system is never to be fixed? Or maybe the person who controls the system doesn't care if it is fixed. And just to allude to something that some of you said, if you have the voice of the voice, who says what is the worst of the voice? Somebody has to be the governor or the person in charge as to give us the definition as to what is the worst of the worst. And if that definition, like Gabby said, is not made clear, then how can you and I oppose? We can complain all we want. We complain plp, we complain F and M. So let me tell you how that works. Y' all like this Bible. So I got. I always got to use this Bible because all y' all are preachers. The children of Israel wandered in the wilderness for 40 years going around in circles. A trip that should have taken them three days. They take 40 years. You know why? Because they didn't understand that the system is controlled by leaders. But who are the leaders? By definition, who truly manages the system? That's what you got to find out. Because maybe these leaders understand that their duty is to take you around in circles. I don't know. I just. I just throwing it out there. So let me go ahead and I want to read some of these texts quickly so they don't get away from us. Good afternoon, sir. Please note that any government come to power do not solve our crime or social problems until they get qualified, experienced and proven people with a track record in the area that need to be fixed. We cannot continue to hire people who do not have a clue on any areas they are hired for. Well, these people could type, boy. The government cannot and will not solve problems until the right people are in place. They had decades of trials and errors read. What are they telling me what to do now they're in charge. They're going to be read my words again. Please note we have had much emotions, egos and politics while making decisions to the slowing down or solving down of the success of our country and people. We have some persons in the Bahamas who can solve our problems, but some leaders in many sectors cannot stand truth and people with the truth and high type in Gabby. [00:52:11] Speaker C: But they sound like standards. They sound like they on. They on the right path. [00:52:14] Speaker A: Though guy herein may be our problem. I think it was a pretty good text. I'm not gonna fight them for that. Let's look at another one. Good afternoon. In order for us to get the worst of the worst, our spineless government has to first make law, which they don't want to do. Therefore, this is why the Privy council always says it's not the worst of the worst. You want to grab anything, you're going to clear that up. Great show. As usual. Raisins in coleslaw is the worst of the worst. Heard naughty say yesterday. Mayonnaise and conch salad is the waste of the waste. Well, y' all people got some talks, boy. And then someone asked the question, what is common sense now to get us really where we want to go? We were joined with a guest in studio. But before we get to the guests, you know they say, ladies voice. I gotta let Gabby share with you the little homework that I gave her an hour before the show. And she was so excited. She was like, God, oh my. I got to go. I got to make some calls. I can't wait to share this information. And so Gabby, the person on the line, I tell you what, call her. Go ahead, quickly, you got 30 seconds because we got to get to Gabby. Go ahead, call her. I'm not gonna make you. [00:53:29] Speaker B: No, go ahead. Hello, Mr. God. [00:53:32] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:53:33] Speaker B: Unto your guest. [00:53:34] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:53:35] Speaker B: 130 seconds. Now, the problem is the Fairy Council is our last quarter for beer. They don't want hang. You know, it was 2000 when the last hanging was done in the Bahamas, okay. And so I try to make it shorter. They don't want to hang. And so every time we go to them, remember the last prosecution, that's when it takes place. In 2000, we have the Caribbean Court of Appeal. The Bahamas was used to PV Council as they last court of Appeal. Now, the problem why we keep the PV Council, because it's a letter. We have a lot of big money matters, millions of dollars and they have to appeal to the Pee Wee Council. But and I'll break it down, in other words, we ain't gonna have no hanging long as the PV council is involved. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Okay? So what I don't forget that's our. [00:54:36] Speaker B: Last cut off a heal. So so you have the carabine caught and we pay money there. [00:54:43] Speaker A: So. [00:54:43] Speaker B: And we don't trust the Caribbean court. [00:54:47] Speaker A: We trust the baby Council. I like your strength. I like what you're saying to me. But once again I, I, I, I gotta let Gabby take us to right where we need to go because you're touching the surface. You go a little deep, but I, I won't go a little deeper if that's okay with you. But I do appreciate that call Gabby. You know, I, I can't use my nickname for you because you know, only me and your husband born one day apart, you know, so I know he's good people and use good people. [00:55:14] Speaker C: So give us the tote across for you. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Yeah, but give us, give us the good news. [00:55:18] Speaker C: I, I bought the tote the cross for you today. I, I bought to get some weapons because they're coming after me as they call us it because I, I could just start with the fire. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Go ahead. Go with the fire. And I could read and that, that's hellfire. We ain't doing a politics. [00:55:33] Speaker C: No, no. [00:55:34] Speaker A: This is, this is Go ahead. [00:55:35] Speaker C: Political Go ahead. But I'm going to read this article. These ain't Gabby words. [00:55:38] Speaker A: An article from where it's this. [00:55:40] Speaker C: And this is from the Tribune business editor. And this article was pulled in 2018. [00:55:46] Speaker A: Wow. [00:55:46] Speaker C: From Thursday, November 29, 2018. And it reads. The government's top official has branded key civil servants as extraordinarily weak. With the Bahamas's 40% overstaffed public sector sector ranking among the Caribbean's worst performers. Dizzy and Gabby's words. Whom is that Government. And an article goes on as they talk about how poorly these public servants are. And they attributed this, this quote while this quote is attributed during the time to cabinet secretary. Who is the highest ranked? The second highest. Who's the second highest civil service rank. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Who's that fact. [00:56:42] Speaker C: This was Ms. Elise de Lancie, Cabinet secretary to the cabinet. Those was her words. [00:56:47] Speaker B: No. [00:56:47] Speaker A: At least Delancey. I grew up with her. That's my big sister. [00:56:50] Speaker C: These was her words. [00:56:51] Speaker A: That's my big sister. [00:56:53] Speaker C: Elise Delancey described them. [00:56:56] Speaker A: She's a smart woman. [00:56:57] Speaker C: Her own people. This might good for as extraordinarily weak. But this wasn't just backed by what she was saying. Elise wrote that this was as the the public sector ranked among our Caribbean counterparts as the worst performance. [00:57:15] Speaker A: What? Elise wrote that the worst performers her brother. [00:57:19] Speaker C: She agreed. Her brother Elise didn't Write it. She agreed, as agreed as the Caribbean came under scrutiny and they were looking at all of their public services and the Bahamas was ranked among the worst. [00:57:37] Speaker A: Oh, my. See, Lord. [00:57:39] Speaker C: And she agreed, quoting that it is extraordinary. The civil servants are extraordinarily weak. [00:57:47] Speaker A: The civil servants. [00:57:48] Speaker C: The civil servants. [00:57:50] Speaker A: So, so, so, so give me some information on who manages the civil service. You got that ready or you want to introduce the bishops? [00:57:57] Speaker C: Let's, let's bring our, our guest into the conversation really quickly. Let's give him, because I don't want him to sit too long out of this conversation. So joining us in studio today is not none other than Bishop Kermit Agaro. You know, God like these, these pastors, he's get all preachy and churchy on me and I know. So I sit in between the, the exile bishop and the, and the current. [00:58:19] Speaker A: Bishop, Dwight Strong, Hakon, Uncle Sora, all this fellow is bringing in these preachers. I got to bring one in because they didn't fire me. So I got to bring some holiness to me, too. I got, I need prayers. But Bishop, go ahead, man. You're joining me today. Today is a day off. You say you want to sit with me today. So bless the Baming people, man, quickly. And bless them all day. Lovely, lovely island of the Bahamas. Spirit of the living God is here. We are, we are fighting, fighting day tooth and nail that want people to say to keep this country as a Christian nation. And so we are travailing and fasting and praying and we have other bishops out there and other pastors out there, Glenda and Roll and many others and, and so forth and so forth, preaching and, and doing the work of God, trying to get this, steer this country back in the right direction, spiritually, physically, financially, mentally and structurally. You know, you know me, I like the master when he go in the temple and beat them preachers, boy, when they ain't doing the right thing, you beat them, you beat them. Don't be scared to beat them. [00:59:20] Speaker C: But Gabby, I want to clarify something, though. The criticism came by Camille Johnson at the time to the secretary. But Elise agreed. [00:59:31] Speaker A: She, she agreed, she agreed. My good friend, boy, good friend. [00:59:34] Speaker C: So she agreed to those criticism. So I want to get into these. Who's the permanent secretary? [00:59:39] Speaker A: See now, now before you go down that road and open up that book, let me explain to these many people what's going on. All ministries are managed. We can quickly identify the member of parliament because these are the people who we voted for. These are the people that we see. These are people we have expectations of. But these people work for ministries. These ministries are managed by a particular type, individual or title. They have a structure of their own. It doesn't matter if you PLP or fnm. These are the managers of our system. [01:00:14] Speaker C: They are permanent. [01:00:15] Speaker A: So we. I want to make sure that you understand that when you want that road pave for Ministry of Works, that got to go through a system. When you want to talk about tourism arrivals and cruise ships and airlines coming in, that goes through a system. When you want to talk about child protective services, that go through a system. Urban renewal goes through a system. National security goes through a system. The judicial system is a system. You cannot operate outside of a system. Your, Your. Your natural human body is a system. And if one thing in your system goes awry, the whole body can begin to break down. And so if you can understand the system of governance in our country, you may then learn to understand that. I got Roseborough. I am your member parliament for Bamboo Town. I won't pave the road, but my manager giving me a problem and I can't get what I need. But I want to make an example. Let me give you another favorite example of mine. I am the MP for Golden Isles where I live. And I want what I want for Golden Isles. I want environmental protective services. I want people to stop littering on the side of the road down in Adelaide. I want environmental police to be uniform and start giving out fines for people who dump into my area and recognize all the hotspots for dumping garbage in my area and start fighting these people so they find somewhere else to go dump or they'll stop dumping all together. These things operate within the system. You can write the law, but the system has to address it. [01:01:55] Speaker B: But. [01:01:55] Speaker A: Go ahead, Gabby. [01:01:56] Speaker C: But I. I want to specifically note that the comments were specifically about the top civil servants. [01:02:03] Speaker A: The top. [01:02:04] Speaker C: The top. We're not dealing with the person, so we're talking about the psych, the undersecretaries, the dps. Those comments were made about the top civil servants. [01:02:16] Speaker A: These are what we call the untouchables. [01:02:18] Speaker C: The untouchables. [01:02:19] Speaker A: If you touch them, you. [01:02:21] Speaker C: You can't touch them. [01:02:23] Speaker A: It's like touching the Ark of the Covenant. You touch them, you could drop. [01:02:27] Speaker C: You cannot touch them because we've seen the. The repercussions. But I don't. I don't want us to scrape because I want us to understand something how, how these people. People get there. So let's talk about the promotion process. So it isn't a matter of Competence. [01:02:43] Speaker A: Now hold on Gabby, you, you only. You won't even reach 40. Good. [01:02:46] Speaker C: Yet it is not a matter of competence because see now back in the day we got, we got to follow the snap back in your time. God, there wasn't a lot of persons. There wasn't a lot of persons that you know, were, were up to the level where we have now. And this isn't a dig at anyone. So now we have you send your child off to school now and you're telling them come back. Come contribute to the Bahamas. So now you see they're populating, trying to populate the, the civil service because they want to give back. They genuinely, they've learned all these things, they've experienced all these things. Kirk Kermit. And they want to come back and they want to give back. But they are met with the persons who were promoted through the tenure of their service. Not necessarily competence. It's because you've been here for 25 odd years, not because you've continued your education, continue to learn you're well abreast with the policy, the procedure procedures of governance or even that you are adamant on pushing forward the legislative agenda of whichever administration. Notice I didn't say government administration is in that seat in that chair. So the PS then who's the top dog in that ministry is basically the CEO. So think of your mp. So all y' all who out there wanting to run and think you come in to run the show. PS's have shown them long time. You don't run the show. You don't summon me to your office. [01:04:36] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:36] Speaker C: I am the CEO of this, this my joint in here. [01:04:40] Speaker A: Okay. I have, I have a, I have a question to drop in there. I've never heard permanent secretary was terminated. [01:04:47] Speaker C: They can't be. Not, not unless they've been charged prosecuted. Prosecuted because prosecuted for something illegal. General Orders which have been around. General orders is actually just a policy document. [01:05:04] Speaker A: So. [01:05:07] Speaker C: So it's, it's basically advice. It's not. You have two. This is General Orders comes underneath you have the constitution. [01:05:17] Speaker A: So you're saying to me right now, you're saying to me right now a new government take over and the new government now got the answer to them. So what if they are broken set of people? What if they are people who has no is not going the direction of the new government. But how would that play? [01:05:40] Speaker C: We've seen, we've seen previously what happens that administrations that, that administrations tend to shift PS's around and I want to give you and I have a document because, see, I don't. I don't want the. The listeners to think I'm talking about my talking out of my head. So I'm gonna read the role of the Permanent Secretary. And this is taking exactly, exactly from the manual. And all ministers are presented with this, the manual of Cabinet and Ministry procedures. There's a manual on this. So this ain't nothing we make up that the PS runs to show this is listed. And if you go to page 16 of that document, it specifically outlines. Right, And I want to get to that. It specifically outlines the role of the Permanent Secretary. And I summarized it for you to basically say that they are the CEO for it. They are tasked with the administration, management, regulation. Listen, only the PS could spend government's money. Did you know that? They are the CFO of their ministry. The minister car signed no check. They cannot spend no money. The only the ps. [01:07:03] Speaker A: Hold on right there. Let me take a caller really quick. Call her. Go ahead. Because I got to let this thing cool off a little bit. Go ahead, call her. [01:07:09] Speaker B: Good day. Yes, Gabby. Gabby, your husband needs to have your dinner prepared and the bath water ready. Oh, Lord. [01:07:20] Speaker C: Y' all, listen, he had. I had some good dinner last night, I can tell you. He made sure. He made sure his wife is well fed. That's why she can come on here for you all today. [01:07:31] Speaker B: You saying it because today make two years and nine months since the Permanent Secretary to the Prime Minister told me and I wrote my letter. They haven't answered yet. The P.S. he was transferred from there, I think, to Social Services. Now, I say that to give your husband, your good husband, the good instruction to go and take a picture of the park in your area and see what condition that is before 7:44 this evening when the sun goes down. Because when you're talking about the spending of that money, right, the $7 million overspent for beaches and parks, we haven't gotten accounts for that as yet. Right. So beaches and parks. We need to know because you know the Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Finance, Mr. Simon Wilson. [01:08:25] Speaker A: I don't want to personalize too much. [01:08:27] Speaker C: Now, don't call the one. Don't call no dam side yet. [01:08:29] Speaker B: Okay, okay. Well, so people don't. [01:08:32] Speaker A: I know he's a public servant, but I ain't trying to throw no rock. [01:08:34] Speaker B: Okay? [01:08:35] Speaker A: You want crucify me. You want take me to God. That's what you want to do. Go ahead. [01:08:38] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay. Permanent Secretary in Finance authorized $7 million overspent of our money. Now let's go back to that There is our king here. That they said were going to be used for government employees going to the family island, that they went into the House of assembly and authorized $2.5 million. Where is the plane today? What happened to our $2.5 million? Because government employees going to the farm, the island still doesn't use that claim. That was last year when they went in Parliament. Right. So I stand all with y' all that yes, the pm, the pss, run these ministries and when they come in, they have to basically fall in truth. So let's just keep it right so people can know. [01:09:28] Speaker A: I appreciate the call. We got to take a quick break, folks, but this is Guardian Today right here, here on Guardian 96.9 FM. The numbers when we come back are 323-623-2325-431632-54259. Anywhere from the family of violence, 300-5720 or you can text us at 422-4796 if you're enjoying the show today. We got Gabby sitting here with you gentlemen. You women, I know you don't like me. I brought some male testosterone in here, Garo and I got rose power. I'm just sitting here in the middle and just watching the show. We'll be right back. [01:10:18] Speaker B: She's in the scramble and she moves with passions. She's getting high trying to fly the sky. [01:10:32] Speaker C: Tired of banks forcing you to use technology to bank the way they want you to. Your convenience is important. So no matter what your banking needs, Commonwealth Bank's friendly staff are always available in branch for that personal one on one service. But when you choose technology, our online and mobile banking app offers you state of the art functionality. The choice is yours. Commonwealth bank bank the way you want. [01:11:01] Speaker A: Shop early to get your uniforms and get Janay's uniform Center's buy4get1 free sale pre monogrammed and regular school shirts, dry fit and cotton polos, jumpers, skirts, boys. 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I'm beseeching you as a big grown, gray man. Like Gabby said from that time, I'm. From this time, right from that time. That means I'm ancient. Just give us a break this weekend, please. We just. Just asking for a break this weekend to enjoy our families, enjoy our loved ones. We need to mend some broken fences in our communities. Give us some time to heal. That is going to be my plea as we continue to delve into this discussion to find out where the real solution lies or who are the people who are responsible for these solutions. And I think Gabby is well on track. I know you want to call in. I want to just finish her dialogue there, but call. I got to give you some respect. You're making a call. I got you text people on the lines. I want to read some of your texts, but call her. Go ahead, quickly, please. [01:13:35] Speaker B: How you doing, guys? [01:13:36] Speaker A: Doing well. Don't want to keep it too long, so I have to let you in. [01:13:38] Speaker B: Just once you understand the CEO part, but just know that any political party, when they get to power, that PS is shuffled sometimes because. [01:13:51] Speaker A: Shuffle. That's correct. [01:13:53] Speaker B: Their job is to guide the policy when the minister sets that policy and the government sets its policy. That's why sometimes we have red tape and baroque in governance. [01:14:05] Speaker A: Because, you know, they. [01:14:06] Speaker B: Those PS supposed to be impartial, supposed to take any side. [01:14:11] Speaker A: So some of them usually, if they do, you can. [01:14:14] Speaker B: They can clog the process. [01:14:16] Speaker A: And that's why you believe it's possible for them to remain neutral. [01:14:19] Speaker B: Exactly. Sometimes they don't let's be honest. [01:14:22] Speaker A: They're human. We all, we all have our preferences. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Especially, especially if not to say that they might be political if they don't disagree with the mission of that particular minister. [01:14:32] Speaker A: That's correct. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Usually when the minister gets in and the party gets involved and they assign a minister, that's why they come there and they usually get a permanent secretary who aligned with them. And that's. And that's all it is. [01:14:45] Speaker A: That's all it is. That's correct. [01:14:47] Speaker B: Signing and checks and whatever they have to convince them that this program is suitable for this particular ministry and why they need it and they make a decision on if all those monies are displaced. [01:14:57] Speaker A: Well, that's intelligent. [01:14:58] Speaker B: It's just a balance. [01:14:59] Speaker A: I like it. [01:14:59] Speaker B: That's why they're there constitutionally, so that. [01:15:02] Speaker A: We don't have this level of corruption in society. [01:15:05] Speaker B: But usually we find ways around that, eh? [01:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, I like it. So, so, so she's on. [01:15:10] Speaker B: She has a point. [01:15:12] Speaker A: Well, just know they could be replaced. [01:15:13] Speaker B: They can't be fired. [01:15:15] Speaker A: They can be shuffled. [01:15:16] Speaker C: They can be shuffled. [01:15:17] Speaker A: Yes, they can be shuffled. Thank you so much for your call, man. We didn't call. Go ahead, Gabby. [01:15:21] Speaker C: Thank you. [01:15:22] Speaker A: Take your time and go ahead. [01:15:23] Speaker C: You know, how long have we been shuffling the deck though? Okay, only how long have we been shuffling the deck? And then moving one issue to, to make an issue somewhere else isn't going to solve our problems. As Garth would have opened up the show saying our problems have been consistent. Yes, they've been continuous throughout successive governments and we hear all of these policy plans, all of these platformative plans. But we're now asking today why we can't see the fruit of these seeds that we're constantly be. That's constantly being planted. We have leaders around the Caribbean saying that amongst them we have the weakest running our government organizations. And that speaks directly to the top level officials, Permanent Secretaries, Under Secretaries, Deputy Secretary. But I want to go to this manual and I want to read what it says. And I'm going to Skip to Section 7 under permanent secretary that says Permanent Secretary is the designation of the public officer responsible to the Minister for the organization and control and the work of the Ministry. He will submit recommendations to the Minister on questions coming within the scope of the responsibility of the Minister, ensure the decisions are sent to the proper quarter for execution to keep Minister informed of the progress made in translating such decisions into action. Hold on now, stay with me on subsection 8 continues to go on and say as Minister is answerable to Parliament for the policies plans in relation to the matters within his portfolio. The advice given to him must be authoritative. The Permanent Secretary must therefore not only exercise the supervision of all work of the minute Minister, but keep himself fully informed about everything affecting that work. But he would not be expected, nor should not he not elect to direct professional or technical work. That means, Minister, you can't tell no one else other than the Permanent Secretary what to do. You cannot tell any Assistant Secretary in them offices there to go draft nothing, send nothing, do nothing. They are only to be instructed as per this document by the Permanent Secretary, Kermit, the CEO of that organization. They can't even release the funds from their budget, less they want to go to jail. [01:18:44] Speaker A: Let me take this caller real quick. Go ahead, call her. [01:18:47] Speaker B: Good afternoon guys. How are you? [01:18:48] Speaker A: I'm doing good. [01:18:50] Speaker B: Okay. I think it's time to be. Be realistic right now. It's time for some of those appointment secretaries to be retired if they have reached their ceiling and give some other persons an opportunity to take that same role. All we continue to do every, every election cycle is just shuffled Permanent Secretaries back and forth. Have you heard recently in the last 15 to 20 years of any new Permanent Secretary that was added to the. [01:19:21] Speaker C: You getting where I want to go? Where I want to take you. Next caller, as to how they're selected. [01:19:27] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:19:28] Speaker C: Thank you so much. [01:19:29] Speaker A: Thank you so much for the call. [01:19:31] Speaker C: How is it now the caller took. Took us straight to the next point. How is it that we get the dps, the Undersecretary and then the ps These persons are selected by the pm, that is The Prime Minister on the advice of the Public Service Commission. You're following here. [01:19:57] Speaker A: So you got some plpp, PPSS and some fmp. [01:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:00] Speaker C: Okay. [01:20:01] Speaker A: I just asking. [01:20:03] Speaker C: We can say people. [01:20:05] Speaker B: Who's these people? [01:20:06] Speaker C: To be honest, if we follow the trend, huh? And we see how long. Because you only. There's only so much promotion you can do because remember now the public service is 40 over staff. And then we have persons bringing in retirees. We see, we see people. Instead of promoting, we bring back retirees. So now when you didn't send your child off to school, Kermit, and they come back with all this education on international and diplomatic relations and they're eager, they're hungry now they've, they've rubbed some shoulders now with some world leaders and have some new experiences and some education that they can bring to truly transform the public service. They're met with socially promoted, inefficient. And these are not my words. These are words from. From the article published in the Tribune. [01:21:01] Speaker B: Weak. [01:21:04] Speaker A: You know that, that, that gives me something. I brought up a project some years ago for Bahamians to be able to build cars, to have manufactured cars and the Bahamas and just have a lot of land for it. And it was just tossed down and somebody whispered to me concerning about the same thing about P.S. and now I'm getting the whole scope of that means if the PS doesn't see it or doesn't has a visibility or they can't see it in their scope, that means they get kicked to. [01:21:38] Speaker C: The curve and tell no one and that ministry moves until they are directed to do so under the preview of that ps. [01:21:49] Speaker B: Wow. [01:21:50] Speaker A: Okay, but let me read some of these texts here quickly. Good day. Garth, I know you don't believe a third party will be next. Just stick around and see the garbage. Tell them the PS means Permanent Secretary. They could only be, I guess I want to say retired. And they said yes, guys, because of your age. You are the calendar. It's only 31. You all could help me with that one. This one writes, good afternoon sir. Please note that any government that comes to power will not solve our crime or social problems until they get qualified experience and proven people with a track record in the area that it needs to be fixed. We cannot continue to hire. Sorry about that high people who do not have a clue on any area that they are hired for. The government cannot and will not solve our problems until the right people are in place. They had decades of trials and errors and so that was one that we had read before and they continue to write. Please note that there are many new young people and TPSs promoted in this administration. Gavi, I don't know if you are aware of that, but they're letting us know the last. [01:23:11] Speaker C: The thing about it is we're. We're not talking about that. Right. We're talking about the quality of the candidates. [01:23:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:23:20] Speaker C: Being promoted is one thing, but being competent is another. [01:23:23] Speaker A: Well, they say, please note, we have had two too much emotions, egos and politics while making decisions to the solving down of success of our country. And people. We have some persons in the Bahamas who can solve our problems and some leaders in many sectors cannot stand truth. And so that was another one that we had read earlier. There's so many texts in here right. [01:23:44] Speaker C: Now because as I mentioned, the process of that promotion is not on just merit. You've been there long. You was one of us. You up for promotion? We're going to give it to you. [01:23:59] Speaker A: These government leaders we voted for are the problem. We put them in charge to govern, but they're not reinforcing the laws. That's another text. Garo, you. You had something to say to that one Agaro to reinforcing the laws? Yeah, boy. [01:24:16] Speaker B: Anyway. [01:24:19] Speaker A: You sound. You sound frustrated. And then he said, how do we know that common sense is not thought in or taught? It's supposed to be taught. It said thought but taught in the classroom. If we can define what common sense is. Good afternoon, Garth and Gabby. Gabby likes when I. When you say that, you know, Goth and Gabby. I feel that the death penalty should not be considered because some innocent people may be affected. Well, this is what I'm thinking. I like what you said about these people being placed there through their tenure, through their years of experience, through their years of coming to work on time and showing a track record. No, no. I'm taking it that you can only all that guy. I'm thinking of starting. I'm thinking of starting. Use a young person. I don't think you want to get to the top unless you show some type of loyalty. That's what I'm trying to get at to you. [01:25:23] Speaker C: But what type of loyalty? Blind loyalty. [01:25:26] Speaker A: Loyalty, period. For whatever the system is going to require for the future. So the reason why it seems as if we're continuously having these challenges is because the tight people that rise to the top are the people whom we either have influence with or people who understand, end quote, what the system is. Because it's very clear to me, Gabi and Kermit Ogaro and the listeners that we as a people don't fully understand how the system actually works. We are alien to our very own system. Go ahead, watch this. I'm at a job. I'm at a job. I'm not going into all the details, but I'm at a job. They have a manager there who was there for so many more years. And when she hear that I'm a Bishop Kermodegaro, she tested my intelligence and tried to insult me. Why? Because she doesn't understand that Bishop Kermodegaro went to university. Bishop Kermodegaro been to different places and he understands some things that maybe you might not understand when we talk about the spiritual perspective. And so when we go in our meeting, you shift from the meeting to something spiritual and ask me questions to test my intelligence where it has nothing to do with ministry. It has to do with the work. So you are trying to deflect and try to see if the bishop on my name is well worth it. But what I'm saying to you, I'm qualified to be a bishop. I'm qualified to stand there and, and I'm overqualified to take your position. But you don't understand that because I'm not going to explain to you or exploit anything to you to understand that I'm more intelligent than you. You got your position by the years of being to the company. [01:27:10] Speaker C: Okay, I went to school and agaro, that's the fight now. That's what we're going through, that young persons are meeting when they come back from university. You're telling them to come home. You're telling us come home, join the public service. You're eager, you're working. And the second you show any levels. [01:27:30] Speaker A: Of higher intelligence, different things they on you. [01:27:33] Speaker C: Guess what? You ain't copying the paper the same way no more. It's so much different ways to skin a cat. You getting what it take took three, four, five months to do in two to three weeks. So instantly, affectingly so essentially. [01:27:50] Speaker A: And so when you come with the idea, they say, oh, you perfect. No, I'm not perfect. I, I, I know I'm more intelligent than you, but I ain't showing you that Bishop with all your intelligence. Let me tell you how this works. This woman named Gabby on my side, she get you all emotionally hype up. I don't need you to let this woman lead you now. Hype village. [01:28:10] Speaker B: No, man, that's not right. [01:28:13] Speaker A: I'm a person. I'm liberate minded and I'm outspoken. I have nothing to do. I see you ready to preach. Yeah, I've got something, you know. Okay, but what we're saying here today, once again and I'm only kidding folks, I'm only jesting with these people here today. They're younger than I am and we have to give the young people an opportunity as they're now saying. Okay, what I'm saying, Gabby, your generation has to understand the nature of the system. If you understand the people who drive the system, you may be maybe you can affect who goes and leads the country back. [01:28:50] Speaker C: But I would have to. [01:28:50] Speaker A: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me finish. I've been to school too. Let me finish. What you all must do is not complain. See, we complain easily. And the whole Bahamas is complaining. And when you listen to God may not Roseboro carefully today? Bahamas listen to me very, very carefully. We go in Trojan horse on this. There's no excuse if that generation of PSs were to move off the scene and new PSs are coming. As the text has said that you should not place yourself to be prepared as a successor of that system. Only then can the system truly change. When you look at the children of Israel. Let me go back to that story. Only Joshua and Caleb could make it in. The whole generation had to die first. There's nothing you can do sometimes with the people who are now in place. If you complain, oh yeah, that's true. People fall by the wayside. Listen to me very carefully. Gabi is intelligent enough to know that if you sit next to God's rose bow long enough, we jamming accident. See a safe night there. She ain't here just because she like me. She know what she sits with me. She jamming. She know what she married that man. She jamming a guy. We already know. Once you go to certain communities, you jam it. Of course we know where we can grow best. And I'm simply saying to you, you who have the ability to lead this country in a different nation, you don't go around throwing stones, you don't go around complaining. You don't go around pushing out your chest that you know what, I could do it better than you. You will get nowhere. But if you simply humble. I want to use this word now. Humble yourself and place yourself in the position to be exalted to one day become a PS with every intention that as friends here at the University of Bahamas, there's 13 of us. One day we all can be the PSS of this country and then we can change the country. Sometimes it takes just a little bit of patience, but. Caller, go ahead and let God get loose. I knew she was. [01:30:59] Speaker B: I will get loose on you before we go. [01:31:01] Speaker A: Go ahead, call her. [01:31:02] Speaker B: Call us. [01:31:03] Speaker C: Save him, please save him. [01:31:04] Speaker B: Yes. Good. After. Good afternoon, God. Good afternoon, guardian. Good afternoon to the Bishop. [01:31:09] Speaker A: Yes, sir. Pleasure. [01:31:11] Speaker B: Thank you. Before I make my point, I just want to ask the bishop a quick question. Bishop, go ahead. And seem to be talking about the civil service and. And their inadequacies and different things like that. Right, go ahead. If a regular citizen felt as if they were not being handled correctly by a certain government agency. Right. Can they come to the church for help to hold them accountable? [01:31:31] Speaker A: Well, the church has a role to play in it, but the problem is that how the government system designed, you cannot go over even if you have a problem. Listen, watch this. Even if you have a problem with that supervisor, you still have to write a letter and give it to that supervisor. Supervisor and that supervisor then got to give it to another supervisor and then they got to go. That's how the government system works. So if you have a problem with that particular supervisor, she will never give the letter. [01:31:59] Speaker B: Go ahead. All right, but, I mean, but, but, but I wasn't talking if you are government employees, okay. I was talking about if the government was supposed to fulfill a service to individuals who qualify on merit. That's what I'm saying. And suppose the government was idea openly mean, could they come to the church? [01:32:16] Speaker A: Yes, we could. Yes. Yeah. Yes, sir. That's what the choice is there. The choice is to hold. We hold them accountable. We could, we could get the whole facts about it and, and, and, and talk to certain people. And if they don't, when we go to them, if they don't want to listen, then we could go public with it. And, and make the, make the. [01:32:35] Speaker B: Before you go, sir, like calling. Call your name and number off so I can write it off. Yeah. Gabby asked something that was, was crucial. She was asking who run things, basically, who run things. [01:32:46] Speaker A: That's it. That's it. [01:32:48] Speaker B: The person who writes the laws, who makes the rules. They run things. [01:32:52] Speaker A: Well, there's, there's a way. There's a way. There's help on the way. There's help on the way. What? There's help on the way. [01:33:01] Speaker C: Call. [01:33:01] Speaker A: I gotta let you go. I got some callers here. I gotta guess real quickly. Go ahead, go ahead, go quickly. You got to go quickly, though. You got other people. Go ahead. [01:33:09] Speaker B: You got to go quickly. Like I said, the people who wear Gabby, they are middlemen. They don't write laws. They don't create laws. They only pass. They only pass on to us with someone else hands to them. So if you want to know running Yabby, you need to go and find out who it is who gives them the law. And with the preview concept, I mean, and which goes to the point too, because see, if we didn't write the law of the voice. Of the voice, we can't define it. [01:33:31] Speaker A: Well, I want you to do me a favor. I want you to do me a favor. Call the producer. I give him a number. Let's chat and let's, let's boogeyman do something. Let's make it happen. [01:33:39] Speaker B: All right, but I mean, you can leave your number for the public suggestion. [01:33:43] Speaker A: 8217 triple 5892-1755-5821-7555. [01:33:51] Speaker B: And Bishop Kermit Agaro. [01:33:53] Speaker A: Yeah, call back the, the board and get the number. Next caller, please. Quickly, Go ahead and call her. Quickly. Caller, go ahead. Once call her. [01:34:02] Speaker B: Go ahead. Hello? [01:34:04] Speaker A: Yeah, you got 30 seconds. We gotta get out here. [01:34:06] Speaker B: Uh huh. Mr. Goss. Hey, you were making pretty much sense when you started earlier. Right. And one of my problems is with this nation is we allow too much new influence to come in this country. Went over the schools, right. And they tend to change the system of the country with their new foreign ideas. Right. And I don't want to knock any people. Consider people woke because these. In these government agencies and they have these new ideas and they. And wondering why? Why the country changing, the country changing, the teachers changing because you have people being influenced by the outsourced forces. I say it's good, I say it's bad, but it's changing because of that. And then that's what you mentioned. No one wants to put someone in responsible organization if they profit in themselves. [01:35:05] Speaker A: I like the call. [01:35:06] Speaker B: Positive or negative? [01:35:07] Speaker A: I like the call. And I look forward to you calling again tomorrow. Gabby, what you got to say? [01:35:12] Speaker C: I have to read this text. Oh, God. And then I want to, because this could wrap up my point. [01:35:16] Speaker A: Go ahead, quickly. [01:35:17] Speaker C: They show up and keep coming. That's all it takes to stay on the job long enough to get promoted. God is talking foolishness. Who putting up with bad treatment and low pay for a chance to get promoted? No, sir. Go where you have opportunity and can get paid. [01:35:34] Speaker A: Okay. [01:35:34] Speaker C: To make a better life for you and your family. [01:35:38] Speaker A: Don't hold my hand. Are you gonna tell your husband? [01:35:40] Speaker C: Hold on. Hold on, God. You won't go overbought me now and give you your time. You don't preach in here. You all, y', all, y' all bishops in the room talking. Y', all, y', all, y'. All right. What you're talking about are generational curses that need to be broken. [01:35:51] Speaker A: That's right. [01:35:52] Speaker C: Y' all want to get into the spiritual about this. [01:35:53] Speaker A: That's right. [01:35:54] Speaker C: You're tell us to shrink ourselves, to go in this room, in these rooms, shrink ourselves so that one day we could transform the system. Instead of identifying the problem, rooting it out and saying this can no longer exist in this place. [01:36:10] Speaker A: Let me fix this in 30 seconds. And I, I thank you all for being here today. Let me fix it. Hold on. Let me fix this in 30 seconds. The. The courage that you have, the strength that you have now just exuded before me. I want you to historically take time. See, you talk about youthful wisdom. That's youthful wisdom. Let the old man speak to you today when you come that strong. We find the weakest out of the strong and we take you on one by one until there's none of you left. There's something called patience. But there's also something called wisdom. That exuberance you have, you got to sacrifice. I could have been the CEO of a company. I got two master's degrees. I could have gone and run bp. I could run any corporation around here. But you know what God chose to do? I cut my own grass. I look for bees. I go fishing. I renovate people bathroom. Because you know what? Ain't nobody could tell God nothing. Now, when the time is right, the God who blesses the just and the unjust and puts the rain on one man rooftop. On another man rooftop, no matter whether he be sin or righteous. It doesn't matter if you're on the radio or the tv. It don't matter if you're in the hill or the valley. Tell you what's about to happen. When God is ready to deliver. Who will stop Joshua and Caleb from crossing into the promised land? My brothers and sisters, we're on our way. This is. I. I better go cut grass and. [01:37:29] Speaker B: Do the same thing. [01:37:31] Speaker C: Please join me on Sunday. Please join me on Sunday. [01:37:36] Speaker A: Be gone. Thank. [01:37:39] Speaker B: You, Sam.