Guardian Radio Today - October 2 2025

[00:00:01] Speaker A: The views and opinions of the hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the management and staff of Guardian Radio. [00:00:19] Speaker B: Guardian Radio TODAY is brought to you by Alive, Burger King, the Cleveland Clinic, Commonwealth Bank, Printmasters Bronze Electric Motors and Wendy's. [00:00:37] Speaker C: In this light in the light, in. [00:00:41] Speaker D: The light it is a sweet life Coming in from the corn. [00:00:51] Speaker C: Coming in, coming in, coming in coming in coming in, coming in, coming in, coming in. [00:00:58] Speaker E: Coming in from the core. [00:01:05] Speaker D: It'S you. [00:01:06] Speaker A: It'S you it's you I'm talking to. [00:01:11] Speaker D: Well, you, you and it's another day it's you that I'm talking to today On Garden Radio today 96.9 FM. I am G. Menard Roseboro, back with you. You have heard from Hakon Anku Sorrel over the last two days here for Guardian Radio Today. And I am back with you today. Tomorrow and Monday, we're just filling in. We're holding on. I don't know how long we are expected to stand in the gap, but I'm doing my part to make sure that you, the Bahamian people and those listening from abroad, you have a voice today. I am honored to have two distinguished gentlemen that have a story of their own and we can take all months to talk about their accomplishments and their experience and why. I have such utmost respect for these men and I would not want them to hold for too long. But I just want to share some greetings with you before we launch into the show. And I want to go ahead and give you a heads up on some homework that I got from the station manager and to promote the show for tomorrow and Monday. And so right now as we sit here, I had a very good day yesterday, I must tell you. Indeed, a great day. First of all, I ran into my grade six teacher, Ms. Gail Burrows Funez. She was my grade six teacher at St. Thomas More, and she was the person who taught me cursive writing. You know, before we used to print using the three lines as to how to write. And she came and taught us how to do cursive writing. But she also taught me something else. She taught me about the beauty of life and education. And so for her, I give her a shout out today. For those who are on my Facebook page, you would have seen a picture. But she and myself, I was so elated to see her and I must return to give her a gift because I think that's what decent people do. We give gifts to the people who have influenced our lives for better. And so I just want to Give her a special shout out today. Also, Nurse Rose Barrow. Today is her birthday, and she's celebrating. She looks 26. I believe she is 26. I don't. I forgot how to count. But, you know, happy birthday, especially happy birthday to you. And I met somebody interesting yesterday, and I have said it with me, Dr. Marvin Smith and Arnold Dorsett, by the way, and I'll let them speak in a minute. But guess who I met on East Street South? I went to an establishment, and the gentleman with me said, Mr. Fernando. Mr. Fernando? I said, Mr. Fernando. Who's Mr. Fernando? So I turned around and sure enough, I saw the black truck and a person standing there that looked like the former Commissioner of Police. Never met him in person before. And so I made my way to the back of the truck just to see who the former commissioner of the Belize was. And he spun and he looked at me and he said, garth Rose Barrow. I said, my God. He said, man, I. I listen to you, I follow you. I appreciate you, I admire you. And the man gave me a hug. I had my hand extended to give him a handshake, and the man gives me a hug. And I said, you know, for this brief moment, it doesn't matter what you said about this man, what you think about this man. I now truly understand why this man was the Commissioner of Police chosen because. And the genuine energy that he gave to me yesterday, as if I knew him for 50 years of my life, I said, man, that made me feel like a real good behemoth. I felt like it was John Kunu yesterday. And he spoke to me, like I said, as we knew each other for some time. And there was nothing erroneous said, there was nothing alleged or anything else to report to you. It was just a good, decent conversation. So, former Commissioner of Police, Mr. Clayton Fernanda. I appreciate you. I thank you for the encouragement yesterday. And I will continue to do my part in whichever circle or space that I sit in. I also took the time yesterday, Mr. Arnold Gossett, to visit Old Trail Road. And even though my. My grandfather is buried in there somewhere. [00:05:34] Speaker A: That wasn't what you went for. [00:05:35] Speaker E: That wasn't what I went for. [00:05:36] Speaker D: I went to see the folks at baic, the Bahamas Agricultural Industrial Corporation, where I am a former employee, as well as Mr. Dorsett was a former assistant general manager of that particular corporation. And the greeting from the parking lot, straight to the general manager's office. I felt like I was the prime minister yesterday. I mean, the security guard was so helpful. Another lady came there, so helpful, and I parked my car, I walked into the vestibule there, and receptionist, she was so beautiful and radiant and welcome. And I'm like, what in the world is this? And then I saw my friend, Mr. Ranger sitting there, arranges, oh, this my boy. The party started and then of course, John Burrows and I, I saw my boy Griffin was there, I. I saw Ms. Roll was there. I. I saw Mr. Hilton was there. And then the next thing I knew, racing across the vestibule as I was exiting was the general manager, Mr. [00:06:35] Speaker E: Troy Sampson. And I he bowed, I said, ma'. [00:06:38] Speaker D: Am, you don't have to bow to me. I gotta bow to you. You're the General Manager. No, Mr. Rosebudro, you are the man. Let us sit and let us talk. And I'm telling I felt as if I was in a space of royalty. And we had a conversation with you about agriculture in the country and industry and let's see if we can get this thing right. And so he's going to look into his schedule to see if he can sit with me and we can have a conversation as such. And so I left there and of course I met a few other places, but like I said, everywhere I went. [00:07:10] Speaker E: It was like royalty. [00:07:12] Speaker D: Now, on Monday of next week, Dr. Marvin Smith, we're going to have the leader of the Royal opposition, that's Michael C. Pintock, and he's going to sit for one hour with Ms. Kabi Enias. She's going to give him a fair interview. I do hope. And I will join you all from 1 to 2. Now don't try to question my logic here. [00:07:34] Speaker E: I just trying to be decent. [00:07:37] Speaker D: Now tomorrow, let me tell you what happened to me tomorrow. I woke up this morning, Marvin, I know you like this one. And I went to get breakfast for my house and I saw land clearing on Comenco Road west. A lot of land. And so a neighbor came to me at the establishment and said, goss, you see all the land they gave to that preacher? That's what land you're talking about. Now, you know, God rest the dead. Von Miller, I continue to respect to him for now, but if you go past Vaughan Miller's church and you go on the right hand side, there's a huge clearing of land. We've just been having a discussion on flooding in this country, which I told you the removal of all of the trees and forestry adds to that as well as the excavation of land that adds to this problem, but that the land clearing continues. And this one is being done in the name of the church. Now Mr. Dorsett is a righteous man. I want you all to know my good friend and neighbor In Bamboo town, Mr. Arnold is a good, righteous man. So I'm going to try to get him in this pickle. So this pickle fight I'm going to have with the church is going to be tomorrow. Mr. Dorsett. I'm going to fight the church tomorrow because I believe a lot of solutions lie in the church, and I believe the church could do more. And I believe if we sit back and just sing hymns and shout hallelujah and praise the Lord, ain't nothing getting fixed in this country. So I got to put it to you preachers, because I got to stick you tomorrow. Oh, I want to stick you good tomorrow. And so what I want to do, maybe I should save the scripture for tomorrow to share with you, because I do have a scripture I will share with you as to why I want to stick to church. But I said to Mr. Kevin Andrews, sitting in my car, I said, I want you to read a scripture for me. And that scripture is in Revelation, chapter 19. I know, Marvin noted. Well, we went to the same church, hillview, Revelation, chapter 19, 17, 21. I want you to read that, and I want you to read Revelation, chapter 20. I said, you see that false prophet, the pseudo prophet, as we say in Greek, him, the ones who put the spear through the side of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, do you know that they're going to burn in Revelation chapter 19 and burn again in Revelation chapter 20? They're going to burn twice. And a lot of these preachers know you're wicked, you know you're selfish, you know you're greedy, you know you lack vision, you know you lack involvement. And then let me say something else to you to really turn your head. When an immigrant comes to this country, an adult immigrant, where do you believe they get the education from as to how to immerse themselves into our nation? Let me hear that. I want you to think about that for tomorrow, and I'll tell you. And if this is where they get their education from, not the University of the Bahamas, as Marvin would have spoken to Dr. Dawson a while ago, if this is where they're going to get their education from. Because guess what? It's a deep conversation. I just probably need to leave it for tomorrow because I want to talk about agriculture and sustainability, backyard farming, and I'm talking about dope. I want to talk about dope and marijuana, medicinal marijuana, pharmaceuticals. So let me take a quick break, but before I do, Dr. Marvin Smith, introduce yourself and Then I'd let The senior man, Mr. Dawson, introduce himself. Tell us sufficient about yourself because your resume is deep. I cannot allow you just one minute to say something about yourself. Take three. Take four. You're Dr. Marvin Smith. Welcome. [00:11:19] Speaker E: You should have been your Monday, but. [00:11:20] Speaker D: You made it today. Go ahead. [00:11:22] Speaker E: Resumes are like obituaries, man. By the time you go, it don't make a difference. Right? But. Good morning Bahamas. Good morning, God. Good morning, Elder Dorset. I am the junior man in this room today. You are, but you. [00:11:38] Speaker D: But you got a big head. [00:11:41] Speaker E: So. I'm currently in terms of. In terms of medicinal cannabis. I am the president of the Bahamas Pharmaceutical Association. [00:11:50] Speaker D: Okay. [00:11:51] Speaker E: I'm also president of our newly formed Bahamas Pharmaceutical Union. But in terms of medicinal Cannabis. I spent 16 years as an executive for the Caribbean association of Pharmacists, five of which I was president, in which we were the primary lobby for medical cannabis throughout Caricom. And in that time we've seen it approved and implemented in a number of our member states. Some of it's been good, some of it's been a little short of the mark in terms of what we wanted to do. And I think that's one of the interesting discussions we have to have now as the government, he has approved it and now is seeking to implement it. So. But. But I've been in this medical cannabis fight for a long time. Very long time, long time. My professor in Pharmacy School in 1998 was the first time I actually sat down and did a course on medical cannabis. [00:12:52] Speaker D: Well, I want to hear a lot about that. Mr. Dorsett, welcome again. My neighbor, my friend, mentor, my daddy's friend. You have deep roots, man. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Yes, thank you. [00:13:02] Speaker D: E Street South. You own my neighborhood, man. We call it Dorset Ville. [00:13:07] Speaker A: I must give credit to Neville William Dorset, my father, who named the place Dorset Ville. And he had many children. I'm one of nine. And so the Dorset continue. [00:13:20] Speaker D: The Dorset continue. [00:13:21] Speaker A: We have spread all over the world. I am involved primarily right now as president of Kingsway Academy. I want to give a big shout out to Kingsway Academy. We just had some awards presentation this morning and some outstanding students at Kingsway. [00:13:38] Speaker D: Wonderful. [00:13:38] Speaker A: I'll pay for that ad. [00:13:41] Speaker D: You better talk to Dwight, Sean and staff. I can't take no money, but go ahead. [00:13:44] Speaker A: But secondly, you know, as a Christian, a born again Christian, I am also chairman of our elders board at east at Blue Hill Gospel Chapel in Blue Hill. Right over the back of the hill on Blue Hill on the left hand side, coming down on the left nearby Carpet World. We have a wonderful assembly. They've been going there for 43 years. People keep asking me, you still at Blue Hill? Listen, as a child of God, you find a family. You don't run away from it. You maintain it, you take care of it. That's your family. Church, family. [00:14:16] Speaker D: I like it. [00:14:17] Speaker A: And so I'm still there. But, you know, my love is agriculture. And I've been in agriculture from the days when I was brought back from United States in 1970 to go to the project in Bartad Andrus. North Andrus. That was many, many years ago. Former director at that time, Earl devoe invited me back to come to the Bahamas. I was doing my master's in Northeastern University and I came back, went to North Andrus and helped to be a part of that project where the USAID gave us $10 million to begin red meat, beef, cattle, sheep and production in North Andrews in 1978. You would not have believed. North Andrews, $10 million. We would have been so far ahead in the 70s. [00:15:05] Speaker D: Where did the 10 million go? [00:15:07] Speaker A: I'm telling you, Bartad, if you know the history, Bartad transformed North Andrews. Yeah, and we had North Andrus looking like Iowa. You walk and you can see the cornrows. You can see the soybean. You can see cattle was roaming now. [00:15:21] Speaker E: You missed the discussion we had early. We've gone. We've gone backward. [00:15:26] Speaker A: Backward is the word. [00:15:27] Speaker D: Listen to me. If you. 10 million. 10 million, Michael. 10 million. Why can't y' all bring 10 million to Garth Bernard Roosevelt? Folks, welcome these two gentlemen. Let's take a quick break, let some of these ads pay this bill. This is Garden rated today 96.9 FM call. I see you on the line. I'm going to take your call as soon as I get back. But listen, man, when you have a show on Monday and you have to wait to come back to Thursday, I got to be coming in from the cold, man. We'll be right back. [00:15:57] Speaker A: Why do you look so sad and. [00:16:00] Speaker C: If forsaken when one door is closed. [00:16:05] Speaker D: Don'T you know mother is open? [00:16:16] Speaker C: Things may be tough but Wendy's got you covered. Grab a Dave single or chicken sandwich with a junior fries and 16 ounce beverage for just 6.95. 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I just have a quick announcement here for big Saturdays are here on Guardian Radio following the eye opener at 9am the accredited from the 10th year seniors is now supersized for two full hours at 11am and tell it to Stanya expands to 90 minutes at 1pm you go Stania. 90 minutes of tell it to Stania. And the new season of our blue Bahamas kicks off now at 2:30pm and the Happy Hour with DeAndrea Cartwright moves to a new time at 3pm and the new big Saturdays on Guardian Radio begins this Saturday, October 4th. And you know I gotta throw my own thing in there, right? You gotta remark on Sundays from 5 to 6:30. Listen, sitting in with me like I said, is Mr. Arnold Dorset, a man who's very well known in the world of agriculture. And of course Dr. Marvin Smith. Mr. President, I'd like to call him my younger brother. You wouldn't know how far back we go. I remember when we used to run track and feel together. [00:19:30] Speaker E: That's right. [00:19:31] Speaker D: That's when I could have run not only my mouse, but I could run my feet and run about eight miles. The great gentleman on 323-623-2325-431632-54259 anywhere from the family violence. 300-5720 you can text in at 422-4796. Mr. Dorset, and let me start with you sir. The reason why I'm starting with you is that when you all first welcomed me in the caller, you must have something important to say. I gotta pause what I saying just for you. Go ahead caller, you got your minute call on the line. [00:20:01] Speaker F: Go ahead my brother. [00:20:03] Speaker C: Good afternoon and good afternoon to the gentleman in the studio. [00:20:07] Speaker D: Well I know he's my boy, you're smart, you're trying to jump start on me. You think I was going to answer your call? [00:20:14] Speaker C: Listen, even if you didn't this is a lesson in history because many of us have heard about Ba Tide but we have not learned a whole lot of what has been going on at Bata when it was in operation. I was amazed just now to hear about the rows of cornfields and so on and so forth and then the $10 million in particular and try to figure out what happened. [00:20:40] Speaker D: Yeah, 1970, that's big money. [00:20:43] Speaker C: Yeah because I mean basically you know many of us now know that we actually regard our country as a failed nation because we cannot even feed ourselves. [00:20:54] Speaker D: That's why we're sitting here today. [00:20:56] Speaker C: And if this is the case you're talking about $10 million back in the day and North Andrus was on the move and I know along with the Luther that had the pineapples and all these other islands that had the tomatoes, cucumbers and stuff, well what really happened here? Where's the money? You know and it's something that we. [00:21:15] Speaker F: Have to be very concerned about because. [00:21:17] Speaker C: As you so rightfully said having grown up in the 60s and the 70s and we've seen agriculture was big thing back then. Why have we gone backwards, you know and still today no one seems to want to give the real answers as to where this money is going. We regress. [00:21:39] Speaker D: That's why we have these men here today. [00:21:41] Speaker C: Continue this history less history lesson because I'm really, really interested in knowing you know more about B in particular. I appreciate your call for taking my call. [00:21:51] Speaker E: Okay, thank you ma'. [00:21:52] Speaker C: Am. [00:21:53] Speaker D: Mr. Dawson, I, I was welcome to, and I, I, I thank Mr. Jeff for calling in. I was, I was welcomed Dr. Marvin Smith to BAIC in 2013 and we were then in the, what they call the Levy Building which was on, that's what, that's Bay street. Eh East Bay street and of course I Walked. I was introduced to everyone in the building. And then, you know, Mr. Arnold Forbes was the chairman at that particular time. And I was very amazed to see Mr. Dorsett was there, who, like I said, is our neighbor. I didn't know these people work in these places, you know, because I had another neighbor across the street that used to work there as well. And she said, baic. Back then, children really knew about Bec and Patelco. If you didn't wake them to a place. We didn't really know what a baic was, as Vicki I'm talking about. And that's where she worked as well. And so, of course, I'm going into an area, Marvin, that I have no clue what Baic does for Baic. And they had this huge idea of something called Bamsey going on. And Mr. Dawson, those invited me in to sit and listen to their plans as to what Bamsey was going to be all about. And we had numerous meetings. And I must give a shout out to Arnold Forbes, because I do believe at that table in his office, he did a magnificent job entertaining the idea of Bamsey and getting this thing off the ground. We had people like Mr. Major who spoke about Donald Major, talked about crab farming, the potential of crab farming and all these brilliant ideas, greenhouses and the works. And I'm sitting there like, wow, all of this discussion is really going on. And then we had a discussion with the Haitian ambassador about how mangoes cost 10 cents in Haiti, but we couldn't ship them directly to the Bahamas because of conventions. It had to go through Florida. And I said, we have some really brilliant people in this country in terms of agriculture. So for the life of me, even until this day in 2025, I can't understand for the life of me why we can't get agriculture right. And so Mr. Dorsett saw the project all the way through. I was there in North Andros when we opened up Bamsey. The cutting of the ribbon and the shovels and all other stuff. I went over to Lutheran when you all did your activity over there. I paid for my own ticket, by the way. You don't want to invite me to that one. I had to pay for my own ticket to see for myself because God's got to see things for himself. And so I don't mind spending my money to make sure I write. So your experience with Bamsey, you spoke about something that happened in 1970. If you can compare that $10 million to what actually happened for Bamsey to be launched. And have we gotten back to 1970 or have we gone further away from 1970 when you spoke about the corn rolls and you talked about the beef cattle and the sheep and everything else? What's really going on? [00:24:54] Speaker A: Well, this is a very long story, and I hope we can have enough time to deal with it. But I want to give a big shout out right now to people like Dr. Hannah in Andrus, who is in charge of BAMSI, the president of BAMSE. [00:25:08] Speaker D: Okay. [00:25:08] Speaker A: I understand they have an uproar, an uprollment or an enrollment today, which is very high, which is good, that says that young people are being attracted to BAMSE and attracted to agriculture. [00:25:18] Speaker D: Oh, but. And we lost Alfonso. Right. [00:25:21] Speaker A: Alfonso Smith. [00:25:22] Speaker D: We lost alfonso. Anyone else? Mr. Lightburn is still there. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Mr. Lightburn is still there. Mr. Hadley is still there. Quite a number of young. Well, at that time, young men, but they are still there today. But also, I want to shout out to Godfrey Enos, who was at the daac. [00:25:36] Speaker D: Yes. [00:25:37] Speaker A: In the days when you were there. And we were talking about bamse, because he was involved in helping to begin some of the groundworks of BAMSE under the auspices of Forbes Today, that part of BAMSE is no longer. I mean, when Godfrey was there. We have a new BAMSEY now under Dr. Hanna. Really? [00:25:58] Speaker D: Because it's a new Bamsey now. [00:26:00] Speaker A: I say a new Bamsey because when we had 20, there was a break in there. Barsey started in 2013. [00:26:09] Speaker D: Okay. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Then you had 2017. The government changed at that time. The government changed the direction of bamsei. There was a new director of bamsea, there was a new minister, and as a result, there was a new direction. [00:26:23] Speaker D: Okay. [00:26:23] Speaker A: And as you know, as I talk about the early days of batad, whenever you have an administration change and they go in a positive direction, and then you turn and you make a negative direction. And so for a number of. [00:26:34] Speaker D: So would you say one government was better than the next? [00:26:36] Speaker A: Well, there were different emphasis. Emphasis. Right. So one wanted to do local, one wanted to do export. There are two different strategies. [00:26:45] Speaker D: No one is wrong. [00:26:46] Speaker A: It's not wrong. I don't think it's a matter of wrong or right. But the emphasis at this time, even now, when we talk about food security, we should be concerned about local food security. [00:26:56] Speaker D: Yes. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Where every household can go to their backyard and find something to eat, as opposed to. If something happened in this country and the food store shut down and there's no means of bringing food in the country, what will we be like? They have nothing in the yards, nothing in the farms, because we have been importing as opposed to increasing local production. [00:27:18] Speaker D: And I want to touch a bit of that today. [00:27:19] Speaker A: So the point is with Bamse, Bamse is there today. I think it's on the right track now. We have some new managers there. There's a new director, a young man out of Andrus, a new general manager who will be giving us some new directions and hopefully he's heading in the right direction. [00:27:36] Speaker D: You impressed so far? [00:27:38] Speaker A: Yes. And he has been meeting with the right people to be oriented so that he don't lose time. We have a very short time and we have to make some, some very short, very short time and we have to make some positive steps. I want to touch also before Mr. Tell them that in Bartad in the 70s, we had a large number of trained agriculturalists in the Bahamas. When I say trained, we had the horticulturals, we had the animal scientists, we had the veterinarians, we had the agronomists. These were professional Bahamians who had been trained at Penn State, who had been trained at Prairieville in Texas, Prairie View, who had been trained in different areas and they came back to the Bahamas and they were now the one, the new extension officers. They, these were men who lived in the community and guided directed farmers and technical information. Today we don't have that. So this is where we've gone backward to the point where you can hardly find a family island today where there's an agricultural extension officer on the island with transportation to go and meet the farmer, bring information, bring technology to the farmers. This is where we need to be today because Bahamians are not just looking to hear about. They want you to show me what to do, how to do. When you have disease and insects in your field, you want somebody to come and help you, not to just talk about it and leave. When they leave, the insects finish eating the rest of the crop. And the teas, that was no help. So we really have gone backward in that regard. But I give my another hat out to the new entity on the block, which is a new place called the Bahamas Food and Nutrition Security. This is the new National Advisory Committee on Agriculture, chaired by Godfrey Ennis, who have been putting some new initiatives to work. And you'll hear more about that in, I'm sure, days and weeks ahead. [00:29:36] Speaker D: I want to hear some more about that. I have something also, like I said to you folks today, Dr. Marvin Smith, my very good friend and Dr. Marvin, you know, we have so many misconceptions. I, I have never, I'm not saying this to be a saint to you. I Have never smoked dope, never in my life. I, I, I smell a lot of it now. Oh, Jesus is everywhere. You go to collect ranch, you gotta smell that, man. You know, you go into the, you know, the stores, you could smell it in the people clothes and all. And, and this is male, female, straight, gay, Christian, non Christian. Everybody got their own philosophy and it was dope. And I noticed Dr. Marvin Smith, wherever these people smoke a lot of dope, like under that juju tree, you always see one little dope plant going here and there, like it's going easy. So now they got this bamsi thing and all this talk about nutrition and everything. Why can't we just go out there and throw some dope on the ground and let's grow this dope and sell this dope. Tell us about this medicinal marijuana industry, the misconception of that, as well as just the raw plant and the raw distribution and the difference of effects. [00:30:38] Speaker E: So here, here's the thing. We have to remember that the agricultural component of medical cannabis is the foundation, the foundation in terms of ensuring a proper product within your country. It's the foundation to create the industries that need to happen out of that. But more importantly, if you're importing medical cannabis, you're getting stuck with what people give you. All right? The beauty of the agricultural aspect of medical cannabis is it allows you to create and grow different strains. It allows you to, and different strains deal with different disease states and different and different cannabinoid receptors. All of these things are critical through medical cannabis that does not have a robust medical cannabis agricultural sector is doing it wrong. And more so, if you're doing it and you don't own it, you're doing it double wrong. All right, let when we start that if you look at our Caricom partners in this, Jamaica, of course, Jamaica's the, I call Jamaica the mothership when it comes to anything dealing with education and agriculture in the Caribbean. All right, I don't know, maybe they drop us off first or drop us off last when the slave ship come. But whoever they drop off in Jamaica, they come from the slaves who's willing to jump off the boat and take the sharks rather than deal with slavery. Because Jamaica always has this thing about we're gonna move forward, we always got to press forward. And I can tell you this as someone who's worked in various caricom and regional based organizations, not just in pharmacy. It's something they have in the spirit and we have to catch that. But one of the things they did wrong when they opened up the cannabis industry. They allowed for foreign money to come in and own the actual growing sites. All right? Now, just like you, God, I have never consumed marijuana in any form. That's my personal choice, all right? Some people can say it's church or whatever else. No, it's been my personal choice. I grew up in Chimanama Bay, and I. Change ain't gonna save you. You have to make a personal choice to not smoke weed. [00:32:51] Speaker F: True. [00:32:51] Speaker E: Okay. I went to Clark Atlanta University, one of the best HBCUs out there. I know you're. You're a Lincoln man. [00:32:57] Speaker D: But. [00:32:57] Speaker E: But cau. And in the atl, that was. That was weed central, right? [00:33:03] Speaker D: And you never, never ever. [00:33:05] Speaker E: No, because I know you ain't scared. Because you know me, okay? My father always said, nobody can come to the house and say they convinced me to do something. Now if they come in the house and say, marvin convince us to do this, he knows, strike. I can leave from the front. So I ain't nobody could drag me into nothing, right? But I say this to Satan. I spent four days, four days, three nights in the Blue Mountains with the Rastafarians, okay? And they walked me through their process of growing, planting and everything else. And you know what's interesting? They said to me, tell me. He said, the smoking bottle. This is 1% of what we do with this, right? They were adamant that they. They were on this land and they would not let anybody buy that land. And they turned away millions of dollars, all right? [00:33:55] Speaker D: And that didn't happen in the balance. [00:33:56] Speaker E: The rest of the rest of Jamaica allowed this foreign money to pop in. And so what happens now is that 80% of the cannabis growers foreign owned. They're not of a Jamaican run in the place, but they're foreign on. I know this, all right? I sit with the cannabis license and authority. I go to meetings in Jamaica. Came up in Jamaica about four weeks ago. [00:34:16] Speaker D: So. So why? [00:34:18] Speaker E: What Jamaica wanted to do was get up and running quick and you need money, be up and running quick. And so they took the influx of money. Would we have to encourage our government to do. And we're talking about this because certain things cannot be political priorities. They have to be national priorities, all right? So that when governments change, because, you know, it's the Bahamas, we don't vote your enemies, vote you out, right? When governments change, the priorities remain the same, okay? Agriculture has to become a national priority. [00:34:52] Speaker D: That's why we have the show today. [00:34:53] Speaker E: Now, I'll tell you something. I said the door set outside, we Allowed some people to come into this country and tell us that Bahamianization was an ugly word. [00:35:06] Speaker D: Is that so? [00:35:06] Speaker E: Yes, we did. I can tell you when we did it. We started to let people in. 85, 86. Okay, tell us some things. And they went for the head. They went for the head. So you got Brian Ross and all these other people with these newscasts and blah, blah, blah. Oh, this corrupt country or this? And that same time, Reagan was selling drugs for guns in Nicaragua to the contras. Okay? Understand what we dealing with here? They squeeze this idea of behemothization. They demonize the fact that in our country, we must rule. We must govern, we must own. You can rule, but you don't govern. You can't govern, but you don't own. All right? And so it squeezed us from morning to where we started to accept expats and foreigners, not just in high positions, but also expats and foreigners in lower positions. I always tell this. We have two problems in this country that nobody really wants to be honest about. We have our expat. There'll be no one you touch when you talk about behemoth. You know what you touch when people talk about who can do the work for me? [00:36:19] Speaker D: That is correct. [00:36:20] Speaker E: So we want foreign bosses, but we want somebody to be good boss. And those two things have squeezed the real Bahamian ethos. And that ethos has now diffused into every area. We will park our churches for a foreign preacher. [00:36:37] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. Right away. [00:36:39] Speaker E: But when our preachers go somewhere else. You can't find seat when they go. We will park our entertainment with foreign entertainers. [00:36:47] Speaker C: Mm. [00:36:48] Speaker E: But the tourists who come here tell us over and over again that our sound is unique and that's what they love. We will pack our institutions of higher. [00:36:55] Speaker D: Learning with foreign leaders. [00:36:58] Speaker E: I may COB alumnus. I refuse to do anything with COB while a foreigner sits in the president's seat. [00:37:05] Speaker D: Period. [00:37:05] Speaker E: Not Marvin Smith. Okay? And any personal. But you can't be in the. At the University of the Bahamas when. When the president is a foreigner, period. Okay? And now what we're doing is we're packing our economic centers with foreign ownership. And the key has to be we can't feed ourselves. We can't strengthen ourselves. We can't strengthen ourselves. We can't protect ourselves. And so we. We've got the squeeze now, where we have more foreign doctors and lawyers in this country than in 19. [00:37:37] Speaker D: We also have more foreign labor. [00:37:40] Speaker E: Go to life with key and see where every garden and maid and housekeeper is. And the squeeze will not stop until we get a national identity that says we must own. And that can't be about your party or politics or your church. It has to be the fact I am a behemoth. What I don't own, I can't govern. What I can't govern, I'm not in charge. [00:38:01] Speaker D: We're here on Guardian Radio today, 96.9 FM here in the Bahamas. This is Garth Maynard, Rose barrel sitting with two great men. Dr. Marvin Smith was just on the microphone along with Mr. Arnold Dorset. And I love these two brothers, and I'll tell you why. Once again, you know Dr. Marvin Smith. He is continuing to rise in this country to fight for a better nation. He gets stronger by the day. But anytime you want any historical reference. But if you want to see if history is ancient. Go to the yard of Mr. Dorsett. Science and other teams don't go teeth. And he got strawberries. You heard it just say he got strawberries. You had to just say he got strawberries. Who grows strawberries in the Bahamas? Arnold Dawson does. And you go and you see his yard. He got a lot of good stuff there. I purchased some of my produce from him. If I find out that it's available, it's good, healthy, organic food. And by the way, let me say something, you behemoth. Before I take a break. [00:38:53] Speaker C: Call. [00:38:53] Speaker D: I'm going to get you in a minute. I went to Michigan, Mr. Dawson. And just on my personal information. I found myself going to the restroom five times a day. The food was so different. It was a healthy, organic food. My body felt different. I feel more sluggish, more slow. But in America, when I'm getting the food straight from the ground. I'm getting apples and I'm getting apricots. I was getting blueberries. I was getting strawberries. And every five minutes, my mother's trying to push cantaloupes and watermelon into my. My mouth. And even the meats for those who eat meat. The lamb. I got lamb chops. I cut them up. I think I cut them half an inch each. Nice organic lamb. I had steaks. T bone steaks. I had them nice, neatly chopped. You know, we got wild turkey running in the backyard. I even got some venison from the deer. Food is very important. And in the balance, we have a whole lot of food growing everywhere. I don't think we're managing it properly. Dr. Smith and you spoke about Bar Tide back at 1970. $10 million. You're talking now with Bamsey and some new initiatives. Dr. Marvin Smith, you're Talking about us owning our country and managing our food. I think this is a great conversation. Folks, calling you on the line before we take a break. Go ahead, call her caller. Go ahead. [00:40:16] Speaker C: Good afternoon Everybody and to Mr. Smith Grand Rutherford. [00:40:19] Speaker D: How are you sir? [00:40:21] Speaker C: I'm the same toll. Smart, handsome, but thanks for asking. Listen, before independence we had more food security and we got now we had a 24 hour day cannery canning fruits and vegetables in Rock Sound. What do we do with that? We had Owens, Illinois. We had the biggest onion in Exuma for the outback, the blooming onion. We had charolais cattle on quarantine in Roxanne on the way from France to Montana, usa. It's still there today. Some of the offspring may be running around. We had corn, we had fruit, we had milk, we had dairy, we had cheese, we had eggs, we had chicken. So much that it used to come twice a day to the capitol. And used to be free milk for every student in government schools. You all may not know about that. [00:40:58] Speaker A: Yes. [00:40:59] Speaker C: So why did we stop feeding ourselves? We have more heads of people than heads of cattle. We have more fish and protein. We could supply the world sustainably if we actually care to be the fish in the sea. You got a billion fish in the sea, man. At $5 each. With the scale and guts still in, that's 5 billion. That's half your debt gone just right there in the in fish. Let's move on. What's really truly sad. I grow strawberry, blueberry, onions in the wall. [00:41:25] Speaker E: Which one? [00:41:26] Speaker C: The wall. [00:41:26] Speaker D: Which one built. [00:41:27] Speaker C: I built a wall in my house. [00:41:29] Speaker D: Where your house is. [00:41:30] Speaker C: You come in, I can show it. I can't send you pictures. When we hang up, turn the block sideways, put some soil in it. And I grow strawberry. And they hang out and hang down. Listen, I grow lychee. I grow different exotic fruits. Everything grows in the Bahamas. Apples would have to grow up in north part of Abaco because its climate is good enough to do it. So tell them stop it now. I'll leave you with this. How much food we bring in? Is it 2 billion? [00:41:53] Speaker D: That's the numbers you want to get to today? That's the numbers you want to get to today. [00:41:57] Speaker C: If it's 1 or 2 billion in food you bring in and you've got VAT at 10%, let's pick 1 billion. That's 100 million reasons the people bringing in the food. Give 100 million to the government. And you as a farmer struggling, want some land. And you want fertilizer. [00:42:16] Speaker D: You must see my House because you hear me talking this. [00:42:18] Speaker C: No, I said this forever. And I leave you with this one. We enshrine in the constitution in a constitutional referendum, food security, energy security and freedom of information. Just those three things that will never get changed because the citizens want food, energy and freedom of information. Put it in the constitution, you're bad. Otherwise we're just beating up we gums and we laughing at we sell. Have a good one. [00:42:44] Speaker D: I appreciate the call and we have so much more to talk about for this show and I, you know Dr. Marvin Smith, he on our show previously had spoken about this whole idea of 1992 and land. [00:42:58] Speaker E: Not just land. Not just land. [00:43:00] Speaker D: Graham. [00:43:00] Speaker E: Graham made a serious point there. Go back and look in the 80s, the late 80s, and look at what. What industry in this country decided that they wanted to expand and flex and this is what we want to get to as importers. [00:43:14] Speaker D: After the news, I got to hit that hard point because Mr. Dawson is all for feeding ourselves, but there's some other land grabbers and land robbers amongst us. Got a text here. Good day. Garth, you are a big man in big shoes who speak truth to power. Well, I thank you for that compliment. The women are so proud of you. You know, people believe people with open gay teeth could lie or sing good. Laugh out loud. I say you're handsome and oh, I must use a date this woman. I say you're Jesus. I blush you now. I say you're handsome and smart and believe in truth, loyalty and purely behemoth and what it stands for. We love you. [00:43:54] Speaker C: You. [00:43:54] Speaker D: Well, I do appreciate that. 1992, we passed some laws and some bills, Marvin, that where people can come in here and take all the land from us. So you're telling us in one voice, grow some food on the land. The land to everybody else. Mr. Dawson is ready to grow some more food. But are you willing to give Mr. Dorset some more land? Mr. Dawson, you should have had at least about 50 acres by now. You got that? [00:44:18] Speaker A: No. Okay, so it may be my fault because I may not have applied because I didn't think I would. [00:44:23] Speaker D: But we can get to that today because we got to make sure you apply. Dr. Mama said I got to let you end the session. Before we go to the news, tell us a little bit about this act that was passed in 1992 and why our land is now in jeopardy. And then we go straight into the news. [00:44:37] Speaker E: So you're dealing with the Immovable Properties act and what's going on with that, which was the very first, the very first action of parliament, the new parliament. See, whoever pays for your elections dictates the agenda. And I've said this without any apology to anybody. All right? The, the worst thing we ever did in this country was to repeal the Immovable Properties Act. It takes the ability of being to compete on a global scale in their own country because we can't go to banks somewhere else and borrow money. But we allow people to go other places and borrow money, bring in here at much lower rates than our banks will let us do. And it's inflated the cost of land. Whether that's land for agriculture, whether that's land for commerce, whether it's land for living, it's inflated at that point to where the next generation in this country will never be able to afford land. The only way they'll get land is if it's passed down to them. Okay? And we've never addressed that. And, and so for me as a 51 year old adult, nobody who comes to me and tells me that they ain't repealing that they're not going to reinstate the Immovable Properties act, you waste your time coming to my house. [00:45:44] Speaker D: Well, I'm going to say this. When we come back from the news we have Mr. Arnold Dorset as well who was there at Lincoln. And I'm certain you would have seen where there once used to be fields full of produce, full of corn and food have now become townhouses and Walmarts and other plazas and malls. We're going to talk a bit about that because are we going to feed ourselves and cut the food import cost and get some quality food? Are we simply going to sell out and become the worldwide Disney of the universe? We're going to go to breakgoating news and we'll be right back. [00:46:26] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM streaming on guardiantalkradio.com and the Guardian radio app. [00:46:34] Speaker B: Nassau, Bahamas for fast, reliable and impactful printing services. Look no further. Let Printmasters bring your masterpiece to life. We stand by our quality products that are second to none. Our affordable, pricing and friendly, efficient staff makes Printmasters the ultimate choice for all your needs. 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You know, over the years, Bamboo Town has had some type of a reputation and went south, just like the country has gone south and agriculture has gone south. But the one thing that we must be thankful for is that in every community and there are people in this nation who continue to stand firm and continue to keep this nation before the Almighty, that we may be stayed and we may be saved. And so, Mr. Dorsett, I just want to give you that community shout out. And for people like Dr. Marvin Smith, he has exemplified and shown us that it doesn't matter which generation you're from, once your heart is from God, you'll continue to do the right thing and continue to motivate people to do the right thing. So, gentlemen, I thank you for joining me today. Once again, this is Guardian Radio today 96.9 FM. I am your humb humbled servant today. God's men at Rose Bar over the last two days. For those just joining us, you heard from Hakon Uncle Sara. He's here on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. I'm here Thursdays, Fridays, Sundays and Monday. And let me tell you all, I can warn you all now, I just filling in for now until they tell me different. And yesterday I got a blessing. And the blessing was I was able to change the cables on my boat. I got a new boat propeller. I got everything ready to go except the gas. Oh, hallelujah. As soon as the storm has passed, the natural resource of fish will be in my boat. I don't know about you, but that ain't gonna stop me. You ain't gonna stop me. Immigration ain't gonna stop me. Customs ain't gonna stop me. Tourism ain't gonna stop. Ain't nobody stopping me other than Jesus. And so the water, here I come. I'm so glad to be a Bahamian. That's why I live here, because I love what I see when I go out to sea. If y' all don't know how beautiful this country is, who's the islands of the Bahamas for? The Duras. And people can see that there's no greater beauty than right here in the Bahamas. I'm talking about beautiful. I'm not talking Fiji and them far places and Mediterranean. We got those same views right here in the Bahamas. Exactly. You got some places that you think when you're flying over, going to Meguana, where my ma from, you see just blue water, right? But you got some places in between your way you could come out your boat and stand in the middle of the ocean and go in ankle feet deep water. You don't believe that, man. Jesus, man. Shallow water, beautiful water, turquoise water. This is the Bahamas folks guarding radio 96.9 FM. And we got a call on the line. Go ahead, call her. [00:51:35] Speaker C: Hey, my brother, I had to call back. [00:51:37] Speaker D: You had to call back? Who make you call back? [00:51:40] Speaker C: Listen, brother Marvin, that. Is this true? With what God mentioned, you actually have an idea of a. A cruise to float to cruise throughout the Bahama? [00:51:51] Speaker D: All of us got the idea. [00:51:52] Speaker C: All of us know what you do. Listen, all I could do is tell you if that is your plan, hey. [00:51:57] Speaker F: I want to invest in that because. [00:51:58] Speaker D: I believe they ain't gonna let you do that. [00:52:00] Speaker C: Our people ain't ain't serious. [00:52:02] Speaker D: They ain't gonna let you do that. [00:52:04] Speaker C: Islands, each island has its own individual and unique experience and. And we have to take push up to go down into the Caribbean. I pay all this money when we can keep the money here in the country. [00:52:17] Speaker E: Yeah, you understand it in Europe, ocean cruising, it's river cruising. Smaller boats and you move and every day you're in a different port and experience a different city. We could do the exact same thing here. But you know, I mean, again, we have to own it. We can't let somebody else come in and do it. We have to own it. And then we can't get these private islands. If you stop in exuma you got to stop the local barn restaurant. You got to stop to a local straw marketplace. You got to do some different things. These are the things you have to create. And again, we walked away from this when they made us think that behemothization was a dirty word. All right? And so you realize that the person who decides that they want to be a farmer in this country and they want to be serious about this, all right, if the government just stays out their way, Forget giving them 10 million. If you just stay out of my way also. [00:53:11] Speaker D: What you think with this? [00:53:12] Speaker E: Okay. All right. And I saw this. I just stayed away. [00:53:18] Speaker D: God. [00:53:19] Speaker E: I saw this because my grandfather used to run all of the Nassau businesses for Mr. Sawyer. As a young kid, I would have to load off crates, the old wire crates of mangoes and. [00:53:35] Speaker D: And. And. [00:53:35] Speaker E: And citrus and all these different things from Elutra. All right, so it was a fellow and he had a cannery running, right? He was a fellow who said, I don't need no money from the government. Just stayed in my way. [00:53:45] Speaker D: And the government always get in the way. [00:53:47] Speaker C: Okay, well, guys, let me just clear the line here. Let me just. [00:53:50] Speaker D: Please give us. [00:53:51] Speaker C: We're talking. [00:53:52] Speaker D: Oh, man. Get off my phone, man. [00:53:53] Speaker E: Jeff, You. [00:53:54] Speaker D: You. You. You sleeping? [00:53:55] Speaker C: No, no, I heard just now. And I know exactly who he is. I know his entire family from his father's. [00:54:03] Speaker D: Neville, of course you know the man. Zion Baptist. I gone, man, I'm hanging you up. We gotta text you. Doc Marvin. That's my good friend Jeff. I can hang up on him. He understands. Garth, what does your guest realize that the Removal Properties act has already been repealed and replaced with the International Persons Land Holdings Act. Please have him explain his point again. So while he thinks about that, let me take another caller. Go ahead, caller. [00:54:30] Speaker C: Gracious. [00:54:31] Speaker F: You got. How you doing? [00:54:33] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm doing well, man. How you doing? [00:54:37] Speaker F: You are buying 50. [00:54:38] Speaker C: 50 for yacht. If you tell me 96.9 is paying. [00:54:43] Speaker F: You that much money, I'll be hosting you. [00:54:45] Speaker D: Well, you don't want to know what I know, boy. You don't. You don't want to do what I do. [00:54:48] Speaker E: Trust me. [00:54:50] Speaker D: All right, bro. Yeah, man. It's good to hear from you, my brother. Appreciate you. Nice call on the line. [00:54:55] Speaker C: Yes, good afternoon. God. [00:54:56] Speaker D: Hey, my brother. [00:54:57] Speaker C: Listen, I want to either give you my number or I get your number. We have a special Bahamian in town, and I think you would like to interview her to hear some of the horror stories she's going through with dealing with our country. [00:55:13] Speaker D: Boy, that sound like A Halloween show? [00:55:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, no, when I say that, man. And being the at her all the time. [00:55:20] Speaker D: Anyway, give the producer your number again for me or text me at 422-4796. 422-4796. Send your number to me. Wait, 422-4796. Text me the number 7 96. All right? [00:55:34] Speaker C: Okay. [00:55:34] Speaker D: All right. Thank you, man. Next call on the line, please. Oh, now my day is made. I almost want to say happy birthday for you. How you doing? [00:55:44] Speaker C: Actually, today is my birthday. [00:55:46] Speaker E: Stop it. [00:55:47] Speaker C: No, I'm serious. [00:55:48] Speaker D: I cannot actually. [00:55:50] Speaker C: My best day. [00:55:51] Speaker D: Now I got to go sell my boat. [00:55:54] Speaker C: Listen, I called for the boat. [00:55:56] Speaker D: Oh, let me. [00:55:58] Speaker C: You just changed. You just got the new wires and the new propeller and all you need is gas. I got $10 towards the gas and. [00:56:04] Speaker D: You put in 10 and I can put in the 600 and we can be okay. Well, let me sing. Let me sing a little happy birthday for you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, my love Happy birthday to you. Hey, man, you Enjoy your day? October 2nd is a great day for beautiful women around the world. [00:56:32] Speaker C: It's an international holiday and we go in fishing. [00:56:35] Speaker D: How about that? [00:56:36] Speaker C: Listen, I go in the seas. They control my line. That's my thing. That's you. [00:56:39] Speaker D: But you know me, that's what I. Which rock you going to? [00:56:41] Speaker C: I don't go on lock, I go on dock. [00:56:43] Speaker D: The dock right before you turn to go there for the Kong Saturday. [00:56:49] Speaker C: That's be me right there. [00:56:50] Speaker D: I know that's you. I can find you. See, I didn't know where you is. That's what real fishermen do. We know where the fisher women are too. [00:56:56] Speaker C: Yes, yes, yes, yes. [00:56:58] Speaker D: You have a great day and you catch us a nice big mutton snapper or yellow tail. Okay? [00:57:02] Speaker C: Well, yellow tail, I don't catch there. But mutton snapper, I just catch. I don't do small fish, I aim them. Other people, I swallow them and I. [00:57:13] Speaker D: Ah, that's my girl. Conservation as well. Hey, we appreciate you and we want you to catch as many today so that you can feed yourself and your neighbor. Happy birthday to you again and we love you. [00:57:23] Speaker C: Thank you so much. [00:57:24] Speaker D: Enjoy the rest of your day. You too, my dear. Blessings. Next call on the line. Go ahead, please. [00:57:30] Speaker C: Start. [00:57:30] Speaker F: Can always along with you. [00:57:33] Speaker D: Thank you. Thank you. They're here and they're listening. I only called to give them all of my regards. Hello, what's happening? [00:57:40] Speaker A: All is well. All is well. Good to hear. You know who this is? [00:57:43] Speaker D: He always smiling. He always you got him smiling, man. Tell the man who you is, man. He ain't seen 25 no more. [00:57:48] Speaker A: The voice. [00:57:49] Speaker D: Bremen. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Bremen. Of course, of course, Raymond. And of course you know my brother Edmund also, who works very closely in that Bane Town area nearby the church. [00:58:03] Speaker D: All right. All right. Well, turn your radio down a bit for me. Oh, boy, I gotta go all the way in the room. I'm gonna hang up. [00:58:10] Speaker F: I only called you to call to. [00:58:12] Speaker C: Give honor my regards because, you know. [00:58:17] Speaker D: We go way back and it's been a long time. [00:58:19] Speaker A: Yes, thank you, Raymond. Thank you for calling. [00:58:22] Speaker D: Thank you for the call. All right, Dr. Smith, what you got? [00:58:25] Speaker E: So, God, I think you're a caller misheard. I indicated that the Immovable Properties act was repealed in 92, okay? That's when it was repealed, all right? And the. The act that replaced it allows for. It actually makes it easier for foreigners to buy land in this country than payments. [00:58:44] Speaker A: That's right. [00:58:45] Speaker E: Okay. Now, you know your real estate people will tell you different because they love the fact that people going to come in with a bunch of money and inflate the. The prices in the country because they get commission. The lawyers love it because they get their stick and the government love it because they get their tax. But the problem is God ain't making no more land, all right? And the fact of the matter is that because the country is already spread out, you have to have a critical mass of people in any particular area for certain things to happen, all right? We always say, well, you could move somewhere else. The fact is, if you took 20% of your teachers and move them out of Nassau, none of your public schools will be able to open, all right? You have to have a critical mass in certain areas to make certain things move. [00:59:32] Speaker D: Well, here's my issue, and I appreciate what you said. Here's my issue, Mr. Dorset. Let me see if I can go back to chapter one. In New Providence, there is an overpopulation, as it were. Just too many people that are actually residing here for me personally. Even though I have three properties here in New Providence, I can sell all I want to sell all before God call me home. I can spend that money. I ain't leaving that for you. But anyhow, back to the topic. I am not a fan of building new homes in New Providence because there's no fill for your foundations. I think the continuous excavation is bringing flooding. And I believe that in terms of traffic and other situations, in terms of airborne diseases, et cetera, I think that we need to disperse the population to the other Family islands. The issue is that I don't believe that we have enough arable land here in New Providence to really sustain the population in terms of growing our own food to sustain the population from, from the farm to the market to the table. Whereas the famine places like Andrews where there's Bamsey while we are here and fighting for land and we're trying to acquire and possess other people's properties. It seems to be, Dr. Marvin Smith, that foreigners are coming in and buying the family island properties. I may be wrong about that. But if that is what is happening, then it means then that we are also losing potential farmland on the family of islands which could in turn feed us here in New Providence and throughout the archipelago. And so places like Eleuthera, I'm watching and it's becoming more and more commercialized by the day. I don't think Andrews has really gotten to that point yet. But I think Exuma is getting to the point of being commercialized. I know there is a nudging at Long island that once they get that airport thing right and banking right is going to be some developments that are going to take place there may goanna where my mother's from. I understand that Mr. Karen there, he's doing some things and there's going to be attracting people back there. But there are developments that are happening there. And once again I think Meguia is another beautiful place for agriculture. But we are short sighted. We don't have the vision in this country to say Are we serious, Mr. Dawson? I just want to talk to Mr. Dawson a minute. Dr. Marvin Smith. Are we serious about really feeding ourselves or is it just a gimmick? Is it just a hoax so that we can import food and we can get the taxes off of the food and the VAT off of the food and some make money while the rest of us are getting this second class or the third class food that doesn't give us the nutrients that we need to even be sensible enough to get into this. Is this real estate war as it were? [01:02:21] Speaker A: Well, you know, and I appreciate that. The fact is in 1978 we had approximately 89,000 acres of arable land that was being used at that time by roughly 5,000 farmers. [01:02:36] Speaker D: 89. [01:02:38] Speaker A: In 1980, 1978 we had about 89,000 acres. [01:02:45] Speaker D: 89,000 acres arable land. [01:02:48] Speaker A: Today we have less farmers and we have only about 10,000 acres under production. So the fact is that we have almost lost 80,000 acres of production on it. [01:03:05] Speaker D: And why won't they give it to. [01:03:06] Speaker A: Bahamians well, they may have been on the lease, but the fact is they're not being productive. The land is still there. It's not being productive. [01:03:15] Speaker D: So, Dr. Marvel, why lease the land to us and not give us a term where we can own the land if we farm it properly for 10 to 15 years, as they do in the United States of America? [01:03:25] Speaker E: You have to remember why can I earn that? Follow the money. Follow the money. All right, look at who are your major contributors to political and economic factors in this country. It is the tourism dollar. It is the real estate market. It is the construction industry. That's, that's, that's really where it is. [01:03:48] Speaker D: That's what's going to feed you. [01:03:49] Speaker E: And none of those benefit. None of those benefit when you say take this 10 acres and put farm on it. None of them. The other thing too is we go back to the mentality I'm born in 1974. [01:04:06] Speaker D: Let me take this call a really quick. Mom, I know you got a lot to say. Maybe this call a real quick. So we go ahead, call her. [01:04:11] Speaker C: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Good afternoon. How y' all doing? [01:04:14] Speaker D: I'm good. I just want to give you your minute because I know you're holding on and I don't. I didn't want to interrupt Dr. Smith, but I gotta let you have what you got to say. Go ahead. [01:04:20] Speaker C: Yeah, but to. To be chief too. That's a excellent idea. To mine. He need to get some investors and put that together. Yeah, I'll say hello now in the morning now and go down Exoma and come back next Friday. Man, that's an excellent idea, man. Get some investors together and put that together, Big chief. [01:04:39] Speaker D: All right. [01:04:40] Speaker F: Now. [01:04:40] Speaker C: God, you know you have a son of the soil or bamboo down soil in there, right? And Mr. Arnold Dawson. [01:04:47] Speaker D: Mister, mister. Mister. Mister. Mister. Mister. [01:04:50] Speaker C: That's your neighbor, you know, my late father, Irving Rodney Rose. Come up in Zion east and Shirley street to get out. His host being around the corner by his house in Bangudan. [01:05:02] Speaker D: And I call the man my neighbor. [01:05:04] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [01:05:05] Speaker D: But I know where you live too. And I ready to rock at your house because you, you, you, you trying to have a little reunion on this, this, on this place here. [01:05:11] Speaker C: Let me tell you, this guy, he's telling me to come around those for. [01:05:14] Speaker F: A little while, so. [01:05:14] Speaker D: And you wouldn't go. [01:05:15] Speaker C: Two months I went, my God, this man load me down with kale with Romeo lettuce. [01:05:22] Speaker D: You gotta pay for an advertisement on my show. You ain't gonna advertise. Mr. Dorset Farm on my show use a neighbor trying to get free things by advertising muff roll. I, I love you, my brother. I, I cutting you off. Use my friend. I love you. Bye. Yeah, I ain't on his run. Say I cut him off. [01:05:40] Speaker E: I need to find. I need to find it. [01:05:42] Speaker D: I didn't tell him. I didn't tell my good friend. I cut him. I cutting you so he could talk. Now he won't be the chief PR person for Mr. Dawson Farm. And I live in Dawsonville. I want free things too. Go, go ahead, doctor. [01:05:55] Speaker E: So let's go back to this thing. Us from the 70s. Us us independent born babies. We were told we were the first generation that was told you're going to college. You were told that. Not you had no choice. We grew up with that being a primary goal, if you will. And I got a bunch of degrees and certifications. I never want to knock education. But we have to understand when you build a country you can't just have scholastics. You have to have technical, technical people. You have to have vocational people. And we ran folk away from making your own furniture, planting your own garden, fixing your own car and all of these things that we normally do. Okay. There was no. The reason why you didn't have an influx of illegal immigrants here coming for labor was because you couldn't. You had too much pride to let somebody else cut your grass. You are too much pride. This mike at my yard, I can cut this grass. That's what he's churning themselves for. And I can take the. Cut this out and weed. And then we got to a point where we were, we got to play where we thought we were too good to do these sort of things. And that was where people capitalize on us. I go back to the example of if you, if you allow people. If Jamaica treated their marijuana plantations like they treated reggae music, which they guard and safeguard. And they don't care how much Americans try to sing their music. You ain't coming to Jamaica to sing it. And you don't hear it on Jamaican radio, you will. You could hear American country music on Jamaican radio. But you ain't never hear American reggae music on Jamaica radio. They're not going to play it. [01:07:36] Speaker D: Yeah, that's the cultural. [01:07:37] Speaker E: Because it's sacred to them. If we, if they treated the marijuana plantations like that, I mean billions would have been in there in the economy. We can't make the same mistake. We cannot make the same mistake. And so we have to find ways. And I got to encourage the same way. I advocate for My association, my pharmacist, to be a part and be trained. We went up even after the act was passed, before the government even said we want to do any training. Our own pharmacy owners went out and we found programs. They went out and got themselves certified cannabis medicine. All right, Some in the uk, some here in Jamaica, some some other places. But they went out and proactively did it because we said, if it's gonna happen, we have. We have to take ownership of it. We have to get a. The same mindset on agriculture as a whole. Okay, to say we have to own it. [01:08:29] Speaker D: Okay, watch this. Now. Mr. Dorset was speaking about some 89,000 acres at one particular time. He spoke about a decrease of active agriculturalists or farmers in our country. He says the land is still there. You're saying that we have to own it. Mr. Dorsett, how do we surmise even introducing a new agricultural industry to our market? Does that increase the amount of people involved? Are we going to do, as Dr. Marvin Smith, bring in, take care of these 79,000 acres? What opportunities could we extend? Are we going to train, let's say, another 5,000 new farmers? Does the government have a training program that we do not have to pay for? Because as a people, I find that we don't like to pay for too many things. We like free things. Could we just invest in having people to train some agriculturalists in this country? And then as I mentioned, Marvin, let's take 20,000 of those acres and let's give everybody four acres. And if they can produce on that farm for 10 years, we'll give you a deed for that property if you promise that you'll farm for another five years or something like that. How does that work? [01:09:44] Speaker A: Well, certainly I am happy to hear that BAMSEA enrollment is increased because that is an institute that can put out more new farmers. And these farmers now are not like, you know, when my father would have been involved in agriculture. These are farmers who can now do their drones. And they can take a drone over the field and taking pictures of it. They're designing things that they can really move agriculture to the next sector. [01:10:11] Speaker D: Drone. [01:10:12] Speaker A: Drone agriculture. This is showing how to go out with drones. [01:10:16] Speaker D: We're replacing the Haitian with drone. [01:10:18] Speaker A: Taking pictures. [01:10:19] Speaker D: Which one? Faster. And I wonder if the drone could be to. [01:10:23] Speaker A: Now they're going to introduce a herbicide application or, you know, the drone will spray it. [01:10:28] Speaker D: So what were the chemicals going on my body? Are these friendly to the body? See, we got these questions. [01:10:33] Speaker A: I know, but when you say chemical, it could be something as simple as neem. Not neem, Vinegar. Vinegar is a. Is a case where you can spray over that, and that is like a herbicide, but it's a good chemical. [01:10:47] Speaker D: Okay. [01:10:47] Speaker A: We're not Talking about the WD40 and other, you know, harsh chemicals. [01:10:52] Speaker D: Okay? [01:10:53] Speaker A: But the point is these new students will have a new opportunity and we need to put out, let's say 100 of them every term or, you know, do short courses, bring in some from family islands and go to bamsea, spend six months and get training in all the different fields, poultry and livestock sciences, and then go back to the family islands and then start doing business. [01:11:17] Speaker D: Where are you going to get the land from, though, once you finish? [01:11:20] Speaker A: There was in the early BAMSE model. Once a student graduated from bamse, he was supposed to be given an area of land, given the materials to go back to his island. The seed, the chemicals, the fertilizers, the technical support so that he can now become a young farmer. [01:11:39] Speaker E: You have to give the jump start. [01:11:41] Speaker A: That project that's by the wayside, but it needs to be reactivated when they go out there. We need to give them the assistance to get started. We can't wait for him to go to a bank to borrow money. [01:11:51] Speaker D: Okay, so watch this. There's a cry right now in the nation for a free acre of land. From my previous experience and not many people who would have the wisdom or the knowledge or the ability to truly farm an acre. Even though it sounds like a lot, there's not much a real agriculturalist could do unless, like Dr. Marvin says, you can do specialty crops. I mean, when you want to do different types of farming, like, you know, the tower. The tower farming. Or aquaponics. Aquaponics or, or hydroponics. But I understand those types. [01:12:28] Speaker E: But you have to start. You have to start before that. God, yeah. In your high schools, if you make. [01:12:35] Speaker D: Agriculture. [01:12:38] Speaker E: A mandatory part of the curriculum. Okay, a mandatory. But what you're going to do is you expose people to things. The Bible says by beholding, we become changed. [01:12:48] Speaker D: Could people fail in agriculture in terms of learning? [01:12:51] Speaker E: Yes, they could. [01:12:52] Speaker D: We got a degrade average. You think I really want to go out there with the flies? I just in the negative side of it. And then watch what I'm saying. Saying to you, people in this country who want the acre free, and I'm saying to you, I'm agreeing with you, that if you're going to go that particular route where we're going to entrust an acre to you, it should be done with stipulations. Land without a plan. You have an education, you have an education, you're going to take on some financial responsibility and then you're going to show that yes, I have the ability to take care of 1 acre or 5 acres or 10 acres. I think in Costa Rica, the model is actually land where you can grow bananas and such cash crop. And you can manage that as a novice agriculturalist and, and continue to hone your skill and expand. Yeah, but. [01:13:36] Speaker A: So we still want everybody who's gonna get this land to be harmonized because we don't want everybody doing the same thing at the same time. [01:13:43] Speaker D: Exactly. But you know, we like to copy with a little tuck shop thing where you sell baggy, I sell baggy. [01:13:48] Speaker A: And then when you come on the market with your tomatoes, I would. My tomatoes, tomato price drop race. [01:13:52] Speaker E: A race to the bottom for price. [01:13:54] Speaker C: Right. [01:13:54] Speaker E: That's the problem. [01:13:55] Speaker A: You have, you have to plan that. [01:13:56] Speaker D: But I have seen too, I don't want to change something too much. I've seen too though, where we had Mountains and Dr. Dawson said y' all shared with us in the meeting they had mountains of onions in Andros. I'm talking about mountains. They never made it to market. They stayed right there by the parking house and they rotted. So where is the rules that say if Dr. Marvin Smith is growing onions, we're going to go ahead and put a stay on import of onions for two weeks until this 10 million onions in the country has been sold. Got. [01:14:24] Speaker E: Got. One of the things that's critical is that these things have to be put in a national strategic plan. And that plan does not change when the color of the party in charge changes. I made a statement, year after year, no matter who is president, the States, NASA still gets to send spaceships up in the air. Okay? Because that's a national directive. All right? We have to have national directives that deal with this, that the funding is put aside and set aside. [01:14:55] Speaker D: Make it a priority. [01:14:55] Speaker E: But, but funding without an education is a problem. You have to give people exposure to these things at the high school level, at the primary school level, you have to. All right? Now, I don't mean if you don't want to make it a graded course, that's fine. But here's the thing. People will never. People will never look to something they've never done unless they see somebody else that they know do it. You know, I'm a pharmacist today because I met Pedro Roberts Jr. That's how. [01:15:23] Speaker D: He became a pharmacist. [01:15:24] Speaker E: I met him as a Child welcome with my aunt and pmh who was a nurse at the time. Do you know who else caught me to be a pharmacist? [01:15:33] Speaker D: Who? [01:15:34] Speaker E: Vissna. She was Williams at the time. [01:15:36] Speaker D: That's my girl. [01:15:37] Speaker E: She was devoted the time. [01:15:38] Speaker D: That's my girl. [01:15:38] Speaker E: That's my big sister. [01:15:39] Speaker D: And her husband is my friend. So don't think I sweetheart, that's my girl. No people. [01:15:44] Speaker E: I saw decent children do something and then I got connected with somebody who was doing it. And today I'm a pharmacist because of that. [01:15:50] Speaker D: Well, she's my number one pharmacist in the Bahamas, man. So. [01:15:53] Speaker E: So what I'm saying to you is this. You have to be able to not farming is. But show them the successful examples of Bahamian farmers. [01:15:59] Speaker D: I like it. [01:16:00] Speaker E: Show them the fact that this is viable. Give them the support along with the education from an early start. And if you start this in high school and you say, you know, we're gonna take the top 10% of you and we're gonna send you the baram z for free. And when you come out, you do X, Y, Z. If you do that every year, all right, you're gonna create. Even if. Even if only 1% of that 10% makes it. Keep in mind of 10%. [01:16:26] Speaker D: Let me take this call on the line. Go ahead, caller. Because my friend Marvin, he won't be like me. He will be a preacher. He won't preach at first. [01:16:30] Speaker E: No, no, no. [01:16:31] Speaker D: That's my friend, man. Go ahead, call on the line. [01:16:34] Speaker C: Good afternoon, Garth, and good afternoon to. [01:16:37] Speaker D: Your guest, Dr. Marvin Smith and Mr. Arnold Dawson. [01:16:39] Speaker C: Good morning. [01:16:40] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, I plan with these guys. They don't mind me. I feeling good today. My boat fixed. I'm feeling good. [01:16:45] Speaker E: Go ahead. [01:16:46] Speaker C: That sounds good. Okay, so I have a question. First of all, I am thoroughly enjoying this show and enjoying the content that you guys are spewing out. [01:16:53] Speaker D: We appreciate you. [01:16:54] Speaker C: I'm enjoying it. But my. My question is, with regards to agriculture, how do you be able to grow the agricultural market in the Bahamas while being successful, sustainable enough that it doesn't compromise the wildlife that's native to the Bahamas? But as you know, in the Bahamas, we have a wide variety of endemic species that are found nowhere else in the world. And that's something that people do come to the country for. And when you're talking about agriculture, that's still large tracts of land that is going to have to be cleared and et cetera. And that means that it compromises the life and the survivorship of our Natives and so our native species. So how do you manage to sustainably do agriculture that can also be beneficial to our native wildlife? Our Bahama orioles, our Bahama warblers, our Bahama swallows, our Bahamian, even down to our Bahamian snakes. [01:17:49] Speaker D: I like that. [01:17:50] Speaker C: And a whole bunch of other things. How is it that you are able, how can we grow and make everything sustainable? And also with regards to agriculture and with regards to agriculture and livestock, we have native plants here that if there's a model, you could use those native plants to feed the sheep and the goats and stuff like that. Whereas that can also help the native birds and stuff like that. Like Synacord. Goats love synecord ram's horn. Goats love ram's horn. So if you can grow native plants here that way that you don't have to spend so much money on seed, which is a big chunk of the budget for a farmer or somebody who's growing livestock that would be a more sustainable, I think a more sustainable way of dealing, using the environment that benefits everybody. So I just want to know any thought, any strategy in place that can deal with growing agriculture, growing crops sustainably, whereas it doesn't necessarily have so much of a significant threat to our native wildlife. [01:18:58] Speaker D: Thank you so much. I'm going to let Mr. Dorset put that through his head. Let me take another caller quickly, please. Go ahead, call her. [01:19:04] Speaker F: Good afternoon. [01:19:05] Speaker D: Go ahead, my brother. [01:19:07] Speaker F: Hello, hello. [01:19:08] Speaker D: Yeah, go ahead. [01:19:09] Speaker F: Good afternoon, Dr. Smith also. Yeah, I mean there's some very interesting conversation and so we're talking agriculture, right? [01:19:17] Speaker D: Yes. [01:19:18] Speaker F: And so boy, glad I see some little sugar banana shooting up your gas. But hats off to Graham Sugar banana in my yard. [01:19:26] Speaker D: You mean in my yard. [01:19:27] Speaker F: You were looking in my yard germinated some leashy nuts. I had gone some decades ago, but they, I guess the soil was incondusive because this area is so compacted, et cetera. But they didn't manage to survive. But I kept some in the seed. But a rich friend of the family who recently died, he have a place out there out west island. There are some species of bleaching that's still there. But it tastes good. It tastes good. But I just wanted to touch on something and I agree with the pharmacist Dr. Smith as it relates to humanization and everything you all have said thus far on the program. But even in S.C. mcPherson in the 70s they were teaching agriculture and so it's just a part of life. And so even in agriculture and in trade work you still need to have a certain level of math. And arithmetic skills because you know, pipe diameter, size flow, all these things count. And so the farmer in there was talking about problems that farmers encounter as they grow certain things. And I realized that some species of plant, some species of plants, they need different attentions and different requirements, etc. Etc. So in speaking of another, that's the way to go. But I wanted to get this in there with the cannabis industry because nobody seems to be mentioning the seed industry. And this is the reason why the Jamaican place them because they have a monopoly on the seeds because they are patent seeds and they have different species, they have auto flowering plants, et cetera. They have to jump on us. So I'm hoping to get a job in this industry and somewhere down the line to be a bud tender, you guys know what that means. But I mean the cannabis industry, the bohemians must have a say in it. [01:21:01] Speaker C: Gar. [01:21:01] Speaker D: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, you know, I always do appreciate when you call and so yeah, I. [01:21:06] Speaker F: Just want to get this joke in with the doctor, but you know that the war of 1812 between Nepot and Russia and France was over the hemp shipments to, to, to hemp. Yeah, they were selling the hemp to America and because of the, the quality of the hemp and making the sales in masses. [01:21:23] Speaker D: Right. [01:21:24] Speaker F: This is, this is always a problem. [01:21:26] Speaker D: So this is nothing new. [01:21:27] Speaker C: Oh Lord. [01:21:28] Speaker F: You understand? But I want to just make this joke with Dr. Smith. [01:21:30] Speaker D: Don't tell these young people no hemp, man. They don't have no hemp conversation. [01:21:33] Speaker F: We had, I was hoping that implementation with that non steroidal bbbb like where pharmacists ask you a problem, you know, and I know that if you actually look at the way absolute risk reduction and relative risk reduction is calculated. [01:21:46] Speaker D: Well, you're too smart, man. Get off my phone, man. You're too smart. Get off my line. Let me take this other one. Call him. Let me call her. He too smart. [01:21:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Good day. [01:21:56] Speaker F: God. [01:21:57] Speaker C: You say your Phone number is 422-4796? [01:22:02] Speaker D: Yeah. Text me your number and I, I, I'll get back with you. [01:22:05] Speaker C: Okay, yeah. Because the, the caller before my schoolmate. 52, like you say, we learned agriculture from an estimated high school. [01:22:14] Speaker D: What you know. But what you, what you know about hemp? Let me hear this quickly, two minutes. What do you know about hemp? [01:22:19] Speaker C: Everything. [01:22:19] Speaker D: Oh man. Get off my phone. I can talk to you later. Text me. [01:22:25] Speaker C: The caller before 52. He was saying without. I would like for him to call me to get in contact because I have a Cousin in Salvador who's doing farming in the same kind of way. You know, vegetation. [01:22:41] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:22:42] Speaker C: And. And do that. So I guess I could. The producer of my number. Give me the producer and let me go back to the producer. So I'm not calling. [01:22:53] Speaker D: Yeah, just text me at 422-479-642-2796. All right, take care, man. Okay. Mr. Dorset, they put a question to you or point to you? [01:23:02] Speaker C: Yes. [01:23:02] Speaker D: And Mrs. Dr. Smith, they gave you one. Who wants to go first? [01:23:05] Speaker A: Well, I'll take the first one. This is the young man talking about soil. Where the best place to plant his farm in the Bahamas. And also whether he's going to be displacing some environmental factors, Wildlife and so forth. Wildlife or something. You know, it's important to remember that in the Bahamas we have mapped, survey mapped all of the lands. And so we know all of the arable land in the country. We know the land in the pineland. We know the coppice land. Coppice land is the bush land that you find south of Exuma Elutra. The south Ilutra. You will not find pineland parts of the Bahamas south of elutra. [01:23:45] Speaker E: What? Yep. [01:23:46] Speaker A: You only find the pine trees that we know of in north Andrews, grand bahama, Andrus, New Providence and maybe in north Ellucia. There may be some attempts tried there, but south of that you don't see any pine. [01:24:00] Speaker D: Wow. [01:24:00] Speaker A: And so that's considered the coppice land. [01:24:02] Speaker D: Yes. [01:24:03] Speaker A: Bush. And in those coppice lands where we do the sheep and goat farming. [01:24:07] Speaker D: Yes. [01:24:08] Speaker A: You go in north side Long island and the goats just eat. And somebody talk about the. The barnabas and the coppice bush. This is what the sheep and goat eat. [01:24:16] Speaker D: But I like this man. That means we have a science of aquaculture that we know about in this country. And we doing food like this, like we don't understand what's going on. [01:24:24] Speaker A: No, we know where to plant what. And the loss of farmers. The ages of farmers have just kept increasing. And so we have less and less farmers out there. And the land is still there. And so the land is not moving, but the farmers are dying out. And so we have less farmers today than we had seven in the 70s. [01:24:43] Speaker D: I have BAIC, Mr. Troy Samson. And I want to give a shout out to my former staff there, Ms. Roll and Mr. Richardson and Birdie and the gang. I want to get them in the studio so we can have some type of invite for the public to come and discuss what type of agricultural opportunities that may exist as well as territories. And I want us to do some encouragement. And Mr. Dawson, if they are coming, I would invite you to sit with me. [01:25:14] Speaker A: Sound like I'm having a reunion. [01:25:16] Speaker D: This is what we need to have. And Dr. Smith, you know this is not going to be your last time coming in here with me. You are my brother, but you're an extremely busy man. You travel the world and you share wisdom and knowledge throughout the world. You're always traveling, my friend. But you got to keep traveling my way. We're going to take a quick break and I'll allow these two great men to have some closing remarks. We have not even touched the surface of our conversation today. But. But at least we have begun. 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Fresh news, smart talk all day. [01:29:33] Speaker D: From the core. It's you I'm talking to here on Guardian Radio today, 96.6.9 FM. Two great men, I gotta keep calling them great men because you know, I want to encourage more young men especially I have nothing against you beautiful women who love me. I love you. To those two ladies having a beautiful birthday today and all the other people having a birthday today want to send you out a special happy birthday. I did also promise to say to Ms. Debbie Bartlett, hello to you. You know, I met her this week at a another space and she took time to speak with my mother and had my mother smiling and happy and listen, when you, when you learn to love people, you know, Debbie says, goth, I always listen to you on the radio. I watch you on TV and goth, I so appreciate you and, and love you. I said, man, Miss Debbie, you were our inspiration. And when you were showing all the smart children on your program, even though I was a dummy in school, I still appreciated you. It's academic. And so today it's academic is here with Dr. Marvin Smith and we also have Mr. Arnold Dossett, two men who have inspired me along the way. And we're talking a little bit of agriculture here, a little bit of the cannabis industry, trying to intertwine that in there and the whole understanding of land availability. Not enough time to simply complete this conversation. It's just a simple introduction. I am opening the pseudo to them with the permission of Guardian Radio network to invite them back again next week Thursday. They will check their schedule as Dr. Smith does travel often. And of course you have your responsibility at the at Kingsway Academy. They're a Great school, but not as good as sac. You know, soccer. Used to beat them up in soccer. I just gotta throw that in there because I is a big red machine fella. But call on the line. [01:31:37] Speaker C: We gotta get a caller for taking my call. That's gonna be correct. Good afternoon to the gentleman. Can you hear me now? [01:31:44] Speaker D: Yes, we can hear you. [01:31:45] Speaker C: Yeah, listen. Rental. And it was empowered. We was halfway and feeding ourselves. I know we could get there, but we have to have the vision to get there. So many ways for us to feed ourselves. God. Greenhouse. We could have a greenhouse in every farm in the island. And also regular farming. Andrews is the biggest place to get in. If the Chinese can do it in the desert, Israel could do it in the desert. We can do it. But we gotta have that vision. The feed herself. In closing, I want that island crew to be developed. Who's gonna develop it? Who's gonna put the. [01:32:18] Speaker D: Hey, we could start with my boat. I could hold 10. [01:32:23] Speaker C: I want that young lady to take me fishing, man. Have a good day. [01:32:26] Speaker D: Oh, Lord. I didn't tell you where she is. And she don't play, man. Good. Good hearing from you. Next call in the line. Go ahead. [01:32:33] Speaker C: Yes, good day. [01:32:34] Speaker D: Good day, my friend. [01:32:36] Speaker C: You know, how is it that when. [01:32:38] Speaker F: It comes to it, I mean everything. [01:32:40] Speaker D: We got so much unemployment in this country, right? [01:32:42] Speaker F: Why, why don't. [01:32:44] Speaker D: Why don't. [01:32:44] Speaker F: Why don't we be here? Why don't I hear about co ops anymore? [01:32:48] Speaker D: Well, I want. I want to talk about that next week, Thursday. If I could have these men would join me. [01:32:53] Speaker F: Because that's. That's a simple way to get unemployed people. [01:32:56] Speaker D: It sounds good. [01:32:57] Speaker F: Skill. Just go and work and learn on the job. [01:33:00] Speaker D: It sounds good. [01:33:01] Speaker F: Technocrats with it. But you know what I mean. All these professionals. I know. I know people in agriculture that may not do. [01:33:09] Speaker D: It. Sounds good. And I really appreciate the call. I want you to call me next week, Thursday on that. I can let Mr. Dawson come in and Mr. Smith and some others. But I could tell you why, in the words of a previous caller, why for me it doesn't work. [01:33:22] Speaker F: You know why I say that? It's because you farmers have to need labor. [01:33:26] Speaker D: Yeah, but listen. And then it is a livable wage. You are a smart man. You're smart man. I believe you're smart. But listen to me. And I thank you for the call. The reason why for me it doesn't work is because the previous caller said it right. We all nodded our head. The government simply has to get out of the way. If the government gets involved, it's a no go. And I have been there myself and I've endured the fight. In terms of beekeeping. Mr. Dorset knows that I learned about beekeeping at BAIC. I was encouraged by the staff at BIC to look into it and I took my own money and I encouraged some 400 plus people through classes. I brought in my dad from Michigan. I brought in Mr. Don Lamb from Michigan. We had the idea of a cooperative and of course the government got involved and everything went to hell in a ice cube. It don't take long to melt the ice cube either. So we could talk about it next week. Someone says sheep love to eat Jumbe. Also their essence prebiotic plant based toothpaste with perilous seed. Okay, that's 52 says G. Please ask your guest about making powdered onion because we waste a lot of onions and we buy it. [01:34:42] Speaker E: Someone easily powdered huh? It's easily powdered. [01:34:46] Speaker D: Yeah, that's someone else wants to get my time. Okay, now I understand him. Is this the lady who asked you that question about immovable property tax? I totally agree that the new law allows foreigners to come in and inflate the land cost. We can thank former prime minister for that. Agreed. He said Hugh Alexander Ingram is that. [01:35:04] Speaker E: Former prime ministerable offense. [01:35:07] Speaker D: He says brother Garth. And guess I fully agree with these men about agriculture and food survival. The Bahamas can easily address these situations and make life better in the the Bahamas stand up behemoths and create a better Bahamas for survival. From the mayor of Grand Bahama. Listen gentlemen man, it's been a great day today. I gotta allow you to give some type of synopsis to your experience here today. And you both got two minutes. Go ahead. Then I can try to burn the house down at that point. Go. Go ahead Mr. Dawson. [01:35:35] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you Garth. And it was really my pleasure to be here with you today. Just to touch bases and I didn't even get to talk about. What I thought we were going to talk about is backyard gardening and getting your garden. [01:35:47] Speaker D: Could they allow you to come next week? [01:35:48] Speaker A: It seems that we'll have to do it next week. [01:35:50] Speaker D: Okay, good. [01:35:51] Speaker A: But definitely I wanted to do a shout out to Forester Bow who called me during the break. [01:35:56] Speaker D: They got to pay me for these kids. I ain't want no money. [01:35:58] Speaker A: I only joking Forester that we brought in the the boar goats out of South Africa into the some goats into Exuma. Yeah. To eat some of the same jumbe and center card and other native bush that we have in the country. So that's those big goats, those large, big red goats. Those are the fastest growing. We have the breeds in the country. We just have to manage them. [01:36:22] Speaker D: Well, shout out to our culturalist. Mr. Forest, we appreciate you, my good cousin from Alexandria. Before we hear for Dr. Smith, you got anyone who's do shif? I can talk about that in a minute. Go ahead, Dr. Sw. [01:36:33] Speaker E: Listen, we're talking about medical care and food security, but the bigger thing we need to talk about, too, is natural medicine. And having us be able to produce natural medicine. [01:36:43] Speaker D: I like that. [01:36:44] Speaker E: That's being grown here. [01:36:45] Speaker D: Yes. [01:36:46] Speaker E: Because most of our pharmacists know how to compound. [01:36:48] Speaker D: Yes. All right. [01:36:49] Speaker E: And so that's another industry. We got to look at it. So food and medicine must move together. [01:36:54] Speaker D: I like it. [01:36:54] Speaker E: It's always been that way. And I think, you know, next Thursday, I'll. I'll look at my. [01:36:58] Speaker D: My schedule. [01:36:59] Speaker E: And if you have to adjust. [01:37:00] Speaker D: Yeah, I know you do your frequent flyer miles, but we can always adjust the schedule so we can all sit together, because I like this group. [01:37:06] Speaker E: Always a pleasure. [01:37:06] Speaker A: I first saw this natural medicine, I was in South Africa. The farmers brought in the cerase in the back door, and they brought the tablets through the front door. [01:37:18] Speaker D: Well, how am I saying listen, tomorrow I'm not gonna have any y' all here with me. I know Darvin Russell is supposed to join me tomorrow, but I want to. I know y'. [01:37:28] Speaker C: All. [01:37:29] Speaker D: They can crucify me. I won't burn some churches down. I won't burn your churches down because your church is them in doing what you're supposed to be doing. I feel if something is not working, if it's not useful, then you need to discard. And I think in the Bible, it says about the fig tree. When the fig tree doesn't bear any fig any fruit, you burn the tree down. Now, let me tell you something. I hear you're crying about immigration. Where do you think these people learn how to immig. Immerse themselves into your culture and into your country? Learn how to drive, how to learn how to wake, where to wake. Wide awake. What time to wake. What time? Where you think they learn these things? Where you think they learn these things? And if they learning these things there. Let me ask you a question. I ain't talking about everybody church because they all get a little touchy. But I ain't scared of you all. Your church should be teaching our people how to do similar things. How to survive, how to grow food, how to live, how to drive. We need to have counseling services. We need to go visit the prison. We need you to go feed the poor. We need you to do some things. You need to be more accountable. And the reason why I'm a bit irritated today because I keep seeing new choices popping up, popping up, popping up. And the country getting worse and worse and worse. That don't make no sense to me. So that means you're taking away a little bit of land we got, we could grow some food with to go do food. Man, I ain't on that run. I can tell you all the truth. I don't care if you send me fishing. I love fishing. But I can tell you what I got to tell you tomorrow. This has been Guardian Raider today 96.9 FM. We've had a great day today with Arnold Dorsett and Dr. Marvin Smith. We hope to see them next week, God's willing. I love you guys, you behemoth people. I love you all. Even the people who don't like me. You hate me. You man, you make me even feel better. Because guess what? Everybody can like you. But at least Jesus loves me. You all have a great day and God bless. It's you. It's you. [01:39:29] Speaker A: It's you I'm talking to. Well, you have.