Guardian Radio Today - October 10 2025

[00:00:01] Speaker A: The views and opinions of the hosts. [00:00:02] Speaker B: And guests are their own and do. [00:00:05] Speaker A: Not necessarily reflect the views of the. [00:00:07] Speaker B: Management and staff of Guardian Radio. You done spend all your money. Take her out on a date. She said give her a call. Round up for the two date. When you dial her number, ring a link to. But she just let it ring. While you get swing, you get swing, you get nothing. Cause you get swing, you get swing, you get swing, you get no thing because you get swing. It is a swinging Friday. Yes, I said it. This is Cosmon on Roseboro with your program Guardian Radio Today 96.9 FM. And after just listening to the news, we had seen Yuri before that along with Aaron Green and Dwight Sean with Morning Blend. And now it's your turn. It's your turn here between the hours of 12 and 2 to say what you got to say. But if any swinging going on around here, I doing the swinging because I don't like to get swing. And you know, we going into a holiday weekend. I'm sitting here with none other than Darvin. That's Darvin with a D, like in dog or like dapper. You know, this, this is Darvin Russell. And we're just trying to make sure that you have a safe and productive weekend. This is a holiday weekend as we look forward to Monday celebrations and relaxation. And today is Darwin's day to bring to you a program that he does believe that is extremely important at this time. I myself, I have stayed away from your politics. I. I told you, I'm staying away from your politics until it makes sense to me. I don't want to talk no politics. But you people keep trying. Darwin laughed at me, said, oh, yesterday you tried. And they successful until miss Debbie Bartlett came along and she was able to keep you away from me. And she did such a fine job as we gave her the shout outs and the accolades that was so deserving. And she is a part of our team. We thank her for her humility to be counted as such and we look forward to her presence from time to time right here on Guardian rail today. As long as we are filling in once again, we're only filling in. We're here in a temporary status. We have volunteered ourselves to be here because we were requested to be here and at the time when it is filled, of course, in this life, when you leave one puddle, you got to find yourself another puddle or you die. And so I encourage behemoths everywhere who believe as if they are not dispensable. Please understand. No. And you need to continue to grow yourself. Take some night classes, Darvin Russell. Do some business courses. Encourage your company to say, you know what? Can you offer some accounting classes? Can you offer some communication classes? Maybe you can offer us maybe some language classes like Spanish or Creole. These things are things that you can ask your employer about. And to make your presence in the corporation much more significant, that means that you make yourself even much more irreplaceable. So I'm only just saying that to you just as a word of advice. This is Garth Millard Rosewell, once again, God in reality today. And Darwin, before I give you the microphone, I just want to share this with you. Being the holiday weekend. You all know I like fishing. There are three fish I want you to stay away from this holiday weekend, all right? You could name any of those three. Darwin Russell. [00:04:20] Speaker A: Sound like barracuda. [00:04:21] Speaker B: Barracuda's one. I invite you smartest. AI give me. Give me another two. Let me see. You got another two in you if. [00:04:27] Speaker A: You get lion fish. [00:04:28] Speaker B: Well, I ain't over that one. I mean, lion ahead tastes good, but if you prepare it right, you're good. [00:04:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:04:33] Speaker B: I. I wouldn't. That one is okay by me. [00:04:35] Speaker A: Bonefish. [00:04:38] Speaker B: One more guess. Poggy, why are you missing Amber Jack and Horsey Jack? [00:04:42] Speaker A: Why you want the people? Stay away from them. [00:04:45] Speaker B: Okay, you people out there who know Kermit, you see how Ker look at me laughing? I only covered falling down on the ground laughing. [00:04:57] Speaker A: I only see two fish. [00:04:59] Speaker B: No, no, you got. You got to tell me. [00:05:03] Speaker A: Come on, educate me and the people. [00:05:05] Speaker B: You the baby people. Do I okay, what I to do? I. I can give Darvin this mic. I ain't saying another word. If you know about Amber Jack. See, this a behemoth thing. A real behemoth. Dar a them real, real, real baby. I'm upper class behemoth. See, now you can throw rock back at me. Say, he said he throwing rock. [00:05:21] Speaker A: No, that's okay. [00:05:22] Speaker B: When you know what you know what you know. I want y' all to come and call and like Muff roll and papa and them other crew there. And you lovely ladies with Sims who gave me that beautiful book yesterday. I want you all to call in and educate Darvin Russell, please, on Amber Jack and Horse Eye Jack. [00:05:42] Speaker A: Okay? [00:05:42] Speaker B: Another. Another one if you want to add to that is the blackfin rockfish. See, they all taste good. Okay, they off the chain. But I want them to tell you the consequences of eating those things on this holiday weekend. Ladies and gentlemen are. I'm sitting here with none other than my very good friend, very good business partner, someone that I can always count on to be a friend. And even just yesterday, I was in the car driving with some people and we were talking with beekeeping. And I could just never get that picture in my mind. Darvin Russell running like Carl Johnson down the road when the bees attacked me. I mean, those knees were up to his shoulders. The gentleman was pumping. I mean, he was gone. Wonder what made me. People, we know how to talk and we know how to run. Call on the line. You want to talk to Darwin before he starts, Go ahead, call her. [00:06:31] Speaker C: Hey. Gracious. Usual. How you doing? [00:06:32] Speaker A: Good afternoon, my brother. [00:06:34] Speaker C: Doing good if you eat rockfish, right? People, prepare to be on the toilet bowls for these 24 hours. [00:06:39] Speaker A: All right? [00:06:40] Speaker B: 24 hours. That's the raw fish. So not the yellow fin one, the black one. [00:06:44] Speaker A: What's the problem with amberjack, huh? [00:06:46] Speaker C: The black one. You better get a big boil. A peptivism. All right, my Lord, put one pillow by the toilet bowl because you're going to be there all night. [00:06:58] Speaker A: What's the problem with amberjack? [00:07:00] Speaker C: Amber, jock boy. I know too much, but that. But you can be doing a lot of throwing up, see? [00:07:05] Speaker B: Okay, well, he don't know what I am, but he know. But the rockfish, right? [00:07:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:09] Speaker B: So. So the blackfin rockfish is the one that got me last. That's the last one to poison me. And I tell you how they got me. Call them. They got me because my friend Secure, who used to work at Barnays island, brought it out to the beach in South Beach. [00:07:22] Speaker A: Yes. [00:07:23] Speaker B: And I thought it was some big group. I only see the head. [00:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:26] Speaker B: I didn't see the black fin. And I gave it to my other friend, Mr. Bristol. And Mr. Bristol is using a grinder to cut up the head where it was so big. And he calls me and he said, my God, but this fish tastes so good that way. My God, it's a good boiled fish. And only him when eating this boiled fish, I say, my Lord, I got to get some of this boiled fish. And I said, okay, what I can do, I can leave home and I can get some of that when I go to the beach. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Okay? [00:07:51] Speaker B: I went down and I. I got my share. And, you know, I started marching in the car. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker B: And he eaten the second bowl by the time I got from right there, half of the Porky's gas station in the beach right there by Pon Villa Drive. Right there. I drove from there to the beach. I gave a Good friend Dawn Pinda, some of my. Some of the gravy, you know, because he want to get the water. Yeah, yeah, might. And suck them bone. Good try. And I just try to play domino. [00:08:19] Speaker A: And some start rumbling. [00:08:21] Speaker B: I thank God for the ocean, man. I had no Scot. I had no Kleenex. I just had God, ocean. But let's call in the line. Go ahead, call it. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Go ahead. Hello, Call you on the air. [00:08:37] Speaker B: Hey, my friend. And they go, tell me, tell me about these fish, man. [00:08:42] Speaker C: Well, I was calling in to make sure you don't get these people sick, man. Paper Jack, the blackfin, horse eye Jack, even hogfish. What happens is it's called cicatara poisoning. [00:08:56] Speaker A: Okay? [00:08:56] Speaker C: Now it is. It causes a great deal of discomfort, but it can also kill you by dehydration. Now, what it's caused from is little fish eating the blue green algae on the reefs, then the bigger ones eat them. And the cicatara is a neurotoxin. So what that ends up doing is staying in the bone of the fish itself contaminates the primarily barracudas, who are predominantly reef dwellers. You catch them out in the ocean, but that's neither here nor there. But you gotta be very, very careful by. If you're gonna play Russian roulette, be prepared to pay the consequences. And being a neurotoxin, it's stored in your spinal column. So the next time you eat a fish, be it a rainbow Jack, whatever it is, and has a slight tinge of it, you are gonna get that neurotoxin twice as bad, if not four times as bad. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Mm. So is that. Is that all amberjack and rockfish or. [00:09:55] Speaker C: Amberjack. I'll tell you a funny story. We are in a tuna tournament and we were in harbor island, and these Americans caught this giant amberjack. It was probably about 95, 98 pounds. It was a six foot long fish. And they said, oh, we're gonna eat dinner tonight. Well, and I turned to the lady, I said, you eat that or just touch it, you're dead. So you got to be very, very careful. The larger the fish, the more dangerous. But just like anything else, it depends how much neurotoxin is actually in the fish. [00:10:24] Speaker A: And it's the nature of their diet that those specific fish species that eat that. [00:10:30] Speaker C: Yeah, pretty much. It's a lot of fish. Like Garth said, the blackwing. Blackwing, we call them blackwing, but it's a black fin. Rockfish is terrible and the yellow fin is not. So it's. And hogfish that I Love, I don't eat it anymore because of this. You got to be very, very careful. Very, very careful. [00:10:54] Speaker B: My Nico Moscow, I appreciate that, man. [00:10:56] Speaker A: Thank you for that education. [00:10:57] Speaker B: You're a real fishman. [00:10:59] Speaker C: One fisherman to a neck. [00:11:00] Speaker B: Yes, sir. See, see, I. Let me tell you how I go. I love me some barracuda and call it. Go ahead. Because I mean, Gabby just came in. [00:11:12] Speaker A: Eat already, then divert the show. The show even ain't start good yet. [00:11:17] Speaker B: But go ahead, call her. Go ahead, call her. [00:11:18] Speaker C: Hey, Pearly, you know tastes good. Before you go stuffed bonefish before, yeah. [00:11:24] Speaker A: But the same stuffed bonefish. [00:11:26] Speaker C: This guy stuff we all do sound just alike. You all do much to his brother. [00:11:31] Speaker B: We went to St. Augustine's College. [00:11:32] Speaker A: I never had it stuff. I had it baked. [00:11:35] Speaker C: Boy, that tastes good. Boy, that dangerous. [00:11:37] Speaker B: I wonder what tastes good. I want to know what is making my people sick because I appreciate your call. Lord, it does taste good. Thank you so much. So. So Darwin, I. I now by my good friend by hammering Hank, you know, they closed house. I could call it business name. My good classmate recalls me in the streets and wants to know this. So we there playing domino now with his daddy, Bobby Clinton, the late Bobby Clinton. And I. I get hungry. I mean, I hungry bad. So what fellow? I don't know if you remember John. John has one eye. But John was in our training class for goal stream for beekeeping. Okay, so John on the. [00:12:08] Speaker A: This is the second poisoning incident. [00:12:10] Speaker B: I might have got poison playing time. Watch this now. John, John, John there by the grill on Soldier Road. Right there under one tent. And he got 1, 1, 1, 1. One barracuda almost like three feet long. And I look at the barracuda and I. I said, John to God, you want to try some of this? And I watching everybody eat this barracuda. I said, now ain't no way all us can get poisoned. So I said, okay, I hungry bad. I say hungry bad. So I eat the first piece because I just ate for a little hearty patty from next door. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:39] Speaker B: And when Gatorade. So I eat the first piece. My God, that steak was so big and thick and so juicy. So the woman say, you want another one? Say, mister, you ain't scared. I said, miss, if you know how good this tastes, I said, I can get me another piece. And I ate another piece. So, you know, that night I drove home. I got home like around 11:30 or so at night. I sit in front of my house. You know I live way out west, right? [00:13:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:13:05] Speaker B: I sit in my Car I had a little white Toyota RAV4 in. And my stomach say rub, rub rock. I say Jesus say rub rope. [00:13:13] Speaker A: God. [00:13:13] Speaker B: I say Jesus. I say, oh Lord. I said God, whatever you do, I don't need this tonight. So I go on inside and I go to sleep. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Oh, you go to sleep. I pray to Jesus. I don't get this thing. [00:13:30] Speaker C: Four o'. [00:13:30] Speaker D: Clock. [00:13:31] Speaker B: I don't know how fishes wake exactly when the. The hand hit the hour mark. 4:00 clock in the morning. I sit up like how Lazarus came forth straight up. I said oh Lord. I said this, I said this is it. [00:13:47] Speaker A: So. [00:13:47] Speaker B: So my, my. My bedroom is 20 foot by 20 foot. I was 10 foot across the floor because I might bed in the center. [00:13:53] Speaker A: Yes sir. [00:13:53] Speaker B: Then I got to get to the walk in closet. Yes, that's another 15 by, by. By whatever. Yeah whatever that is. [00:13:59] Speaker A: By 20 run a football field. [00:14:00] Speaker B: Then I gotta go through the door to get to my master bath and and. And. And. And mature on all the way to the. To the wall. I. I tell you how far I gotta go. When he found me, it was the next morning. I was on the floor. Yeah, the porcelain floor. [00:14:16] Speaker C: They cold. [00:14:16] Speaker B: That's cold. Col them Versace tiles for the cold. And when she find me, I was on the floor. The only thing would save me that night was apple cider vinegar. The Braggs apple cider vinegar. [00:14:29] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:30] Speaker B: You give me that with some lime in it. [00:14:32] Speaker A: Yes sir. [00:14:32] Speaker B: And then you regurgitate. And then the following day I had to drink Gatorade all day to get the electrolytes back into my body. That's what is up to happen when. When you do this fish thing, you know. So, so call. I see you on the line. I'm gonna let you call back and tell you a little story. But today we've been joined by Gabby Eneas McKenzie. Eneas. But I said today is Darvin show and she's a very well aware. So she came to give him some love and some support. And so what I gonna do, I gonna reset the show. Give me that song again because I think I just swing down with it. Call, you want to say something quick? Say something quick. [00:15:03] Speaker A: Call her. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Go ahead quick. Because look I got swinging Darvin. I. I know he don't like to get swing either. Go ahead call her. Call you on the line. Go ahead call her. [00:15:11] Speaker C: The FM got swing Darwin and. [00:15:15] Speaker B: Oh Jesus Lord. Give him a song. They trying me. They trying me. [00:15:20] Speaker C: Kermit. [00:15:24] Speaker B: That fish can swing you. You still single in 2003. 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[00:17:18] Speaker A: That's the Sister Sister Breast Cancer Dollar Day proudly sponsored by the Guardian Media. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Group, Star 106.5 and the Guardian Radio 96.9. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Good afternoon everybody. You are back listening and we are joined by our our partner in crime, Gabby. Today of course Garth as usual has hijacked the show talking foolishness about fish poisoning. When I know I tell him what we are supposed to talk about today. But that's what you could do when you're the Chief Executive Officer today. For those of you that are going to be contributing and talking to us and joining this conversation, the numbers today are 3236-2323-2543-1632-54259. To our family island callers, the number is 2423-00-5720 and you know you all love to text on WhatsApp and the number is 422-4796. So God this week I was talking to one of my friends and we were having another one of our great conversations as we usually do when we get together. And we were talking about the state of affairs of the nation. But one of the things that came up during that conversation is what we're going to talk to the audience tonight or this afternoon about. And it's really trying to get an understanding and a definition of what is the Bahamian dream. You know, many of you in the list, I'm pretty sure Gabby knows I've lived in the US for quite some time before moving back home. And one of the things that you're always aware of in the US is that what an average American considers the American dream, family, children, a pet white picket fence in a house. That's just their thing. Right. And I have struggled my whole life trying to articulate in a very concise way, is that as monolithic for Bahamians? And what does that even look or sound like? Is it universal? Is it ubiquitous? And so I would like to really get an understanding from the audience and from Bahamians far and wide what they believe the Bahamian dream is. So today is a three part question day. So when they have ventilated on that, then we can talk about parts two and three. But I have my idea of a Bahamian dream. But I will reserve my definition that I finally came up with after I hear from the audience. But without further ado, Gabby, good afternoon. Say good afternoon to the audience. And what do you believe is the Bahamian dream? Gabby? [00:20:26] Speaker D: Good afternoon, everyone. Davin. Good afternoon, Gath. Thank you all for having me join you today. Wow, Davin, I remember you talking about this on a previous show where we sat in this space. We really, really didn't get to dig deep. So I'm very interested in the statistics, the information that you're gonna bring forward to our listeners today on this. And I chuckled when you talked about the Bohemian dream because at one point it's always joked about that the Bohemian dream was to buy a Honda Atlantis. [00:21:04] Speaker B: That was my little. [00:21:06] Speaker D: If it. It was. It was a running joke among Bohemians. [00:21:12] Speaker A: Yes. [00:21:13] Speaker D: If you wasn't going over that bridge and driving a Honda, the Honda had. [00:21:18] Speaker A: To be tinted too. [00:21:19] Speaker D: It had to be. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:20] Speaker D: On 22s or 4. [00:21:21] Speaker A: Absolutely, absolutely. [00:21:23] Speaker D: It gotta make sense, David. [00:21:25] Speaker C: That's. [00:21:25] Speaker D: That's the Bohemian Dream. That was the Bohemian Dream guy. [00:21:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:29] Speaker D: When you, when you, you have to be going over that bridge. It was, it was the. Then Kirzner International. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:21:37] Speaker D: And before that, I believe for many Bohemians your parents would tell you, you gotta get a government job. Okay, that was the dream. You go to School. You spend all these years in schools, get a government job. Because once they, that generation, I believe, felt like that was security for them. Once you got on there, it doesn't matter what you did, it's going to be very, very hard for them to get rid of you. [00:22:10] Speaker A: Yes. [00:22:11] Speaker D: So for the Bahamian dream, I believed for many decades has been security. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. That encapsulates all of those elements. [00:22:21] Speaker D: All of those elements. [00:22:22] Speaker A: And I remember to add a fourth thing to that is if you were raised by old people, like I always say, they talked about buying a piece of the rock. Having a piece of property was always aspirational, no matter how poor your family was. Buying a piece of property was absolutely a part of that equation. What was your take? What's your belief with the Bahamian dream? [00:22:46] Speaker D: Don't forget about the Sweethearts now, my Lord. [00:22:48] Speaker A: Let's keep it positive, my Lord. [00:22:50] Speaker B: Sure. [00:22:51] Speaker D: I mean, you can. [00:22:51] Speaker A: Let's stay safe. [00:22:52] Speaker B: Gabby. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Gabby, let's stay safe today. [00:22:54] Speaker D: If we could really talk about the dream. You can't. You can't. You can't forget about the sweet eyes. [00:22:58] Speaker A: I rebuke you, Gabby. [00:22:59] Speaker D: You can't forget that. [00:23:00] Speaker B: You know. [00:23:03] Speaker D: I mean, come on. Cause even grammy didn't know she had to take care of them churn on the side. [00:23:07] Speaker B: See where, where y' all jumping is. Y' all have not even yet defined the difference between a wish and a dream. [00:23:15] Speaker A: All right, go ahead. [00:23:17] Speaker B: That's two different conversations. See, when you wishing, you wishing for some things when you dreaming. Yeah, man, you, you talk about long term. Yeah, that's how I see it. You know, so when you, when, when you're growing up, the first thing you wish for is you wish for a little girlfriend in school. So Gabby is right. Be looking for the woman or, or the man or whoever you with. I ain't getting y'. All, Y' all marching all business today. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:45] Speaker B: I tell you say a lot of politics. Yes, sir. And you wish to get out of school? Me, Jesus, Lord, I used to pray every. That God just. I just want to finish high school so I could be a man, my Lord. And I wish to get out of my parents house. See, I can't dream yet because I just got these wishes. Yeah, you see, the dream starts when you get out of wishing isn't going to be sufficient to sustain me for a lifetime. [00:24:08] Speaker A: All right. [00:24:08] Speaker B: There's a lot of wishes this year. I wish for the Honda Accord. I wish to work to Atlantis. Those are wishes to dream is that long term goal that says, you know what this is going to change my socio economic position for my entire life. All right, so when I was in school, the galley even had no job. She just looked pretty with a little ponytail and you know them school uniforms be off the chair. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Anyway, I won't get that. I will be focused, you see, so. And then you learn that I try not to get trouble today. You got to have the car, like I'll be saying. Because if you want the. The top guy, you wouldn't even talk about no house yet. No, no. You get one car, then you finally see like a little dog. So you get one little pit bull and you realize that she looks scared of people. So you get one of them little pool just so you could get something. It's all vicious. [00:25:02] Speaker A: But you had, you had money, you. You'd be buying gas. [00:25:05] Speaker B: I just wishing. We just wishing. That's what we do. We just wishing. You see, for me, a dream for me would have been I want to be a successful executive at a corporation. All right, that's. That's a totally different story. Okay, so in order to be successful in corporation, then I need to consider where am I going to elevate myself, what school I'm going to attend, what school has a successful track record, what I'm prepared to do, to endure in order to succeed in this educational environment. When I come out, who are my friends? Who's the circle of my friends? My circle now has to change. We ain't shooting marbles from governance of data. We want to see what the data say. We want to see when we do our analysis what this is going to break down too. So then when I get to that point, then the natural man comes out of me. Because the dream and your nature has to work together. And. And the nature says to me, my mom from Mayor Guadalupe, my great grandmother from Ackland, my great grandparents from Andros. I said, what? I tell you, I want a two or three story house with a big yard. Okay, see, now it's not making sense. I don't want no Honda Accord, man. I know normal. I won Mercedes, I won BMW. I want. And see now I learn and I learn in the dream like that I could turn into a nightmare. So I know when I pull up, I used to go to this fellow named Telly. I don't know if he's still open. But when you go to Telly, boss, you better pull out some money, man. So now I know how to use Toyota. I drive only Toyota. [00:26:28] Speaker A: But the dream. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Darwin, Russell, I don't think we can Properly define the dream. Because even myself when I was a pastor, I'm a very righteous man. I'm a very righteous man. I love the Lord. And one night I was laying in my bed in South Andrews and I hear the plane buzzing and I said, God, I wonder if the briefcase fall what I can do. I only want to. I only want. I say, you know what? I only want the money. I only wishing for the money. But that's not a dream. The dream isn't I can be rich one day. That's a wish. The dream says I set a goal. And those goals I work toward. It's not something that's going to come to me automatically or out of the atmosphere. A goal has to be set in order for me to accomplish a dream. That's how I feel. [00:27:10] Speaker D: Guess what, God, a lot of persons for them obtaining that Honda was acclimation of them living the dream for them to be able to. They might have been the first person in their family to own a vehicle that wasn't walking, hiking, catching the bus. That to them might have been the first step. Listen, no one in my family ever own a car vehicle. So for them that is the dream. No one in my family was able to make this amount of money because these jobs and hospitality make money. So for them the second day was able to put that car, they could afford to put that car on not just a regular tires, they on 22s and 24s. That's just this visionary. Now for them, God, that's visionary for them. You have to realize for some persons that's a dream. For some persons that is their dream. That's what they saw. Listen to me, I see my uncle here hustling begging for a dollar for me. I could get that job over at Kirchner International. I got to get over there. That is my dream. When I come out of school, what was happening is I see everybody making that money over the bridge. My dream is to come out of school and get over that. [00:28:33] Speaker B: But your dream is to be an employee. [00:28:35] Speaker D: For some people that that's a reality. [00:28:38] Speaker B: Call on the line. Go ahead, call her. [00:28:39] Speaker A: Go ahead, call her. What's the Bahamian dream, caller? What's your idea of the Bahamian dream? Yawn. With Darwin, Gabby and God. Call back caller. Sorry we took long to get to you, but so what I. There are several themes that I hear resonating between the two of you. [00:28:54] Speaker B: Okay. [00:28:56] Speaker A: You're both talking about for example, security. Security looks like for Gabby. She mentioned a job, a specific job, a government job. For you and Gabby as well, a hotel job for you. You want to be an executive. Security to me also sounds like home ownership. That's another element of security. The other thing that both of you talked about was a partner, a spouse, whether that's in a marital setting or not, you want to be coupled up with somebody. And then the third thing that I heard was some material possession, something that identifies with being successful, whether in Gabby's example, it was a car. In your example, it was an attainment of a certain level of financial status. So if you think about it, maybe the way that it manifests may differ by generation. It might differ by socioeconomic standing, but it's still common. And I'm trying to encapsulate the commonality. Caller, you're on the air with Darwin, Gabby and Garth, you're on Guardian today. What is the Bahamian dream as you see it? Go ahead, caller. That's what I'm asking. Define it. You define it for you. [00:30:16] Speaker C: A government job. Okay, and now it changed from Honda to aki. They want Aki now in 2025, it's upgraded. [00:30:27] Speaker B: So what's the big deal then? What's the big deal with having a government job? Let me. Let me hear you call her. Define the dream of a government job, because that's what I want. No, Darwin, why so much? People won't wait for government and they don't pay no money. [00:30:40] Speaker C: No, no, they don't pay no money, right? People still looking for the pension plan, right? [00:30:44] Speaker D: Security. [00:30:44] Speaker C: I'll give you a prime example right now, right? [00:30:46] Speaker B: I'm in a private company right now, right? [00:30:49] Speaker C: People in the company trying to get a government job because at the end of the day, at least you get benefits at the end of the day on a government job. [00:30:59] Speaker B: So on the government job. On the government job. Darwin Russell. On the government job, y' all want this government job, but y' all will strike every year on this government job. Y' all don't get paid enough on this government job. You all complaining on the government job. That's your dream. [00:31:12] Speaker D: They want the security enough to know that if push come to shove during the pandemic, government workers were home for the entirety of the time receiving phones, full salaries. Private entities said, we can't keep you. You got to go, we got to furlough you. We got to lay you off, however that looks. So for a lot of people, the amount of money they're receiving at the time doesn't matter. It's the security of the what ifs that might happen. Will I still be able right now. Securities was running the road during the pandemic. It didn't matter who you thought you was. You could have been a bigger CEO of the company. God. And if that company shut down during that COVID 19 pandemic, you was out of the job and the security was running away. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Let me ask you a question that you young person with all his hard mouth. Darvin work for governor. [00:32:03] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. [00:32:05] Speaker B: I want to ask you a question. I want to know if Darvin worked for government. [00:32:07] Speaker D: Davin don't work for government. [00:32:08] Speaker A: Okay? [00:32:08] Speaker B: God. Work for government. [00:32:09] Speaker D: God don government don't work for government either. [00:32:12] Speaker B: Oh, God. You don't work for government. So why you want to run for government? For this little security talking about? And then you will look at me. [00:32:17] Speaker D: And say, you got to ask the people whose dream that is. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Call you on there. What's the Bahamian dream? [00:32:26] Speaker C: Hey, good day to you host the Bamian dream. Talking about a government job. God, I am in my 50s. I think that you're basically almost in the same age bracket. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Yes, sir, go ahead. [00:32:40] Speaker C: I know people who started out working for government at the age of 18. [00:32:47] Speaker A: Okay. [00:32:48] Speaker C: And the advantage where it comes in is that they obtain a house. Yes, we all know that persons we have mortgages. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Yes. [00:32:59] Speaker A: Okay. [00:33:00] Speaker C: So when you work on that government job, guy, you show that money coming. [00:33:05] Speaker A: Okay. [00:33:05] Speaker C: See, the government ain't gonna never tell you we bankrupt the private sector. Atlantis could tell you tomorrow. I could tell you tomorrow. Hey, before follow. I'm letting the people go. There's nothing you can do. And the lady who was in there, give a good example. You had persons got during the pandemic who were working in government departments who are home working and they were still getting paid. [00:33:33] Speaker A: So is the only thing on your list job security? That's the only thing you need is a bayman to consider it a dream. What else is on your list? [00:33:39] Speaker C: No, job security is number one. Especially if you decide to start a job and in the government sector and then you create a family. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:33:47] Speaker C: If you create a family in the government sector at the age of 18, say you achieve a house at the age of 20 and pay in rent. That will make no sense. [00:33:55] Speaker A: Okay. [00:33:56] Speaker C: As a young person, you could, you can start at that age. You can start maybe putting on your little down payment or putting aside or put it on fix or save enough money for your house. So when you run 65, when you run in your 50s, 40, you don't pay for that. Oh, so when you reach 65. All you're doing is reaping your benefits by collecting your insurance. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Okay, thank you caller. [00:34:22] Speaker C: Appreciate you number one dream man. I mean government all like all I'm simply saying before I go governments right, do not go bankrupt. Remember that governments do not file for bankruptcy. [00:34:37] Speaker A: I'd be careful to say that my brother. [00:34:40] Speaker B: Thank you caller. So that means that money coming in December like they say. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Next call on the line phones are lighting up now. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Go ahead, call them. [00:34:46] Speaker A: They must see wake up. Before I call you on the what's the Bahamian dream? [00:34:50] Speaker C: Hello? [00:34:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I just want to say that. [00:34:52] Speaker C: There are speaking about security. [00:34:55] Speaker A: Yes sir. [00:34:57] Speaker C: Many times governments have paid off persons in the past they have guaranteed called redundancy a good education and. And go forward no matter who you work for a government or private. [00:35:12] Speaker B: Okay, I like it. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Thank you sir. Appreciate you. Yeah, thank you caller, you're on the air. You're on Guardian today. What's the Bahamian dream? I call you on the air. What's the Bayman dream? Hello caller, you can call back please these texts that came in regarding the Bahamian dream. Good afternoon Garth. Great show. My wife and I were looking at getting into beekeeping and backyard farming. Do you teach or can you assist us with with this Garth Goth? If he is in the mood he'll leave his number for you to reach out to him directly. DeWitt isn't correct. The government could do mass terminations. We know what's going on in the United States as proof positive of that. In fact the IMF has already suggested that they do so. We hope they never have to. And we all know in the Bahamas it's called redundancy. Right? So it's not true that that is the case. Third text. Good day. My Bahamian dream. A house on New Providence or one of the islands that my family is descended from. A boat or a plane. Now you talk in my language. A boat or a plane to get to that second house on the island. The job that pays me commensurate to my education and experience to be able to send my children to any school and to university of their choosing. Man, I love that text. Collier on the air, what is your idea of the Bahamian dream? Caller, you're on the air. What's your idea of the Bahamian dream? [00:36:45] Speaker C: Yeah, hello. [00:36:46] Speaker A: Go ahead. [00:36:48] Speaker C: Yeah, government. Well last year government trained loose people. Previous calling I've not asked that question my last year the government. [00:36:57] Speaker A: So so for you, so for you security. So that's one of your. That's one of your elements of your Bahamian dream? Job security? [00:37:06] Speaker C: Well, I weigh more than the private sector, but government, government don't never let go. You are here. I can never recall the government. They be laying off a lot of people. [00:37:16] Speaker A: No, but I'm asking you, what is your idea of a Bahamian dream? I don't want to get caught up in what that previous caller said. Yeah. What's your idea? [00:37:25] Speaker C: If you could own your own house, okay. You have. You have a surplus and you could, you know, buy whatever you want to buy. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. So in your idea, do you need to be married as a Bahamian? Is that a part of your aspiration? Yeah. Yeah. Is that part of your dream? Do you desire as a Bahamian? You think the average person wants a partner? [00:37:45] Speaker C: It don't have to be. [00:37:46] Speaker A: Okay. And what about education? [00:37:49] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, well, education, okay, you know, that's pretty good. You got to get education okay for any place. Everything, everything in life, you know, education, you need something. But for instance, people. Hold on. I won't be a carpenter. Or you go to school and you learn this. But if you, you to be a carpenter. [00:38:07] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:38:07] Speaker C: You got to know how to measure and all of that. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Okay, fair enough. [00:38:10] Speaker C: A lot of fellows who know that. I asked one guy the other day, some of the interest is what is one foot can answer that. [00:38:17] Speaker A: Thank you, Carla. Next caller, you're on the air. You're in Guardian today with Garbage with Darwin, Garth and Gabby. What is your idea of the Bahamian dream? [00:38:26] Speaker C: Yes, you know, I was thinking that everybody dream is every. Everywhere. Everywhere should become relative. But okay, you guys address the leaders and the people in the media selling dreams, okay? [00:38:40] Speaker B: Okay. Dream sellers. [00:38:45] Speaker A: Thank you, Carla. [00:38:46] Speaker C: The poor man who he never had, who came from poverty. Now that's no dream. [00:38:50] Speaker B: Okay? [00:38:51] Speaker C: Every young man dreams about having a car. [00:38:53] Speaker A: Okay? [00:38:54] Speaker B: I like this car, man. The kind of guy you want is a. [00:38:57] Speaker C: As a ride that a poor man can afford, my lord. [00:39:01] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:39:02] Speaker C: That's a poor man's right, my lord. [00:39:04] Speaker A: So what's. Okay, so what's, what's on your list? What's on your list? [00:39:09] Speaker C: My list is to be. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Just to be like. [00:39:11] Speaker C: Like, like, like what you call it? A. A freedom fighter, A left wing. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:18] Speaker C: In this country. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:19] Speaker C: That's my dream is to be successful, to become a socialist leader. [00:39:22] Speaker A: I appreciate you, my brother. Thank you for your contribution. [00:39:25] Speaker D: I want to. I want to share something with you that someone wanted me to say to you because they wanted you to. To talk more about it. And they said that the trade off for working for government is low pay for security. [00:39:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:39:39] Speaker D: When covet came, government should have gotten full salary because that was the trade off finally paying off. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Wow. [00:39:46] Speaker D: It's not. It's only fair. Also, the ability to access capital is easier for government workers because of the security. Banks will give a mortgage to a government worker in the blink of an eye because they know they are getting their cut every month without fail. They get paid before the worker gets paid. So the government job opens doors for others things like a home, education for your children, etc. By the way, this is coming from a former government worker who would rather drag my backside across a field of broken glass before I go back. [00:40:23] Speaker A: That's interesting. No one's calling the line. Call on you on. You're on the air with, with, with Darvin, Garth and Gabby. What is your idea of the Baming dream? What's your idea of the Bayman dream? You're on the air. Go ahead. My brother, I'm well. [00:40:39] Speaker C: My dream is to be able to buy for me and my family live in a secure place where I have access to education and health. [00:40:47] Speaker A: I love that. [00:40:48] Speaker B: I love that. [00:40:49] Speaker A: You're the first person that talks about talked about health. I love that idea. Thank you, caller. So, Gabby, Gabby, I'd mentioned the text or that wrong heart. There is a lot of truth to what she's saying and I believe that the government actually has just changed that policy to now make new employees start to contribute to the pension because it really was a significant benefit. And I mentioned to you guys many, many years ago when I was campaigning, I had met the folks and I was in North Andrus and a significant amount of them live that is their sole source of income post retirement. And anybody who knows how low the pension amount is. For people to think that that's your sole source of income is actually quite scary. But what you have traded off, as she so aptly indicated, is 30 years of your life that you will never get back for a lower than average wage where you otherwise could have. As I as I say, you could have taken an educated risk on yourself to go into the private sector or go on your own like so many of us have to make a better life for you and your family. But some of us make that trade off. Collier on the air, you're on Guardian today. What is your idea of the Bahamian dream? Go ahead, caller. [00:42:04] Speaker C: Yeah, blessed. Good afternoon to God. Sonic. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Yes, sir. And Gabby. Yes, sir. [00:42:10] Speaker D: Good afternoon. [00:42:10] Speaker B: The beaming dream for me but I. [00:42:12] Speaker C: Like to make a joke for you for some beaming dream might Be a Honda Accord couple back of barque in the job. [00:42:19] Speaker A: True. [00:42:20] Speaker C: You know. Dream is to really watch my children get old. Better country. [00:42:25] Speaker A: I love that. [00:42:25] Speaker C: Safer country. Basically. Don't forget that the most demons they would like to retire on other islands with some type of. [00:42:33] Speaker A: That's interesting. [00:42:34] Speaker C: You know. That's a dream for me really. [00:42:36] Speaker A: So you. Okay. [00:42:37] Speaker C: It takes a lot of money and time. So. [00:42:39] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:40] Speaker B: You know. [00:42:40] Speaker C: To die at least. [00:42:43] Speaker A: So living in the. Living and living the city this. This Nassau city life you want to. You want to get away from at a point. [00:42:48] Speaker C: Yeah. But you see what's going on. [00:42:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:50] Speaker C: The study with wooden spock in the 40s and 50s happens when you pile up a small place and compartmentalize people. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:42:58] Speaker C: I mean it's just basic. You. You're very intelligent. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Yeah man. [00:43:01] Speaker C: Give thanks. [00:43:01] Speaker A: Appreciate you man. Thank you. Carla. [00:43:03] Speaker B: Well, Darvin Russell. I have a dream like Mark would say. [00:43:07] Speaker A: Notorious B.I.G said it was all a dream. He used to read Word up magazine. [00:43:11] Speaker B: Written right there in Bimini. They say yes. Yeah. Right there in Bimini in the Bahamas. But I have a stream and Darwin Russell. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Do I have time to. To give them mine before we go to one o' clock break? [00:43:22] Speaker B: I just was dreaming that they can come back and listen to us after the news. But if you want to put a commercial in there. I need to give you some of that rockfish then you wouldn't. You wouldn't want to say God. Could we please bring the commercial on? Go right ahead. MAN. [00:43:37] Speaker A: So this is what I came up with folks. And then we'll deal with part two and three after the news. My ability or attempt to encapsulate what I believe would define it for me. I would define the Bahamian dream as follows. I desire to be a happily married individual with children and a mortgage free home in a mentally and physically healthy body and mind coupled with a level of wealth and prosperity in a safe and congenial community environment that gives me a quality of life that would afford me adequate vacations, contributions to charities of my choice and explore my hobbies and interests as I desire. [00:44:21] Speaker C: Man. [00:44:21] Speaker B: You're too deep. [00:44:22] Speaker D: Fun, freedom, fulfillment. [00:44:24] Speaker A: Okay, let's see it. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Talk that talk. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Gabby. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Hey, Talk that talk. Give us some of that good music there. Man. Give me some dream. [00:44:31] Speaker A: We'll be back after the one. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Y' all too smart. You know I gotta watch out for y'. [00:44:35] Speaker A: All. [00:44:35] Speaker B: Folks. Man. Folks. This is garden radio today 96.9 FM. I'm in the studio with Darvin Russell. The Orchin man. If you didn't know. And Garvey Eneas the brilliant one. My name is Garth Maynard Rosebarrow. We're going to be right back after the news. [00:45:11] Speaker C: I believe we can reach the. [00:45:18] Speaker A: High. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Through the starry skies. [00:45:24] Speaker D: Baby. To an astral plane. Cross the highways. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Don'T wait for a storm to arrive. [00:45:42] Speaker D: Stock up on hurricane supplies, make home repairs, purchase a generator and more this hurricane season with a Fidelity personal. Make that move today. Call 356-7764. [00:45:55] Speaker B: Fidelity. We're good for you. [00:46:05] Speaker D: For fast, reliable and impactful printing services, look no further. Let Printmasters bring your masterpiece to life. We stand by our quality products that are second to none. Our affordable pricing and friendly, efficient staff makes Printmasters the ultimate choice for all your printing needs. We can deliver any type of printing services from banners to booklets to business cards. You name it, we can print it. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Let Printmasters bring your masterpiece to the. [00:46:30] Speaker D: Located the Nassau Guardian building. Telephone three zero is bigger and better. [00:46:34] Speaker B: At Burger King Nassau. When you have a big appetite, BK has a royal deal for you. Get a flame grill Double Big King Jr. Or an original chicken sandwich. Plus four chicken nuggets, small fries, a drink and a fresh baked cookie for only 9.95 including that. The royal deal was built for a big Appetite. And at 9.95 including that, it's a steal of a deal. Go big and enjoy the BK flavors you love with the 9.95 Royal Deal at Burger King Nassau. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Right. You know what going down tomorrow? Nobody. [00:47:03] Speaker B: What happening? Joe bringing these knives to school. He could do Junior. [00:47:06] Speaker D: For what? [00:47:07] Speaker A: Well, he fooled with Joe. Girl, that's sick. [00:47:09] Speaker B: And you know Junior don't back down for nothing. So that means you got a big fight tomorrow. So whose side you on? Side I trying to stay in school, not Simpson Penn. We gotta tell somebody about this fight. [00:47:17] Speaker C: Tell somebody? [00:47:18] Speaker A: I ain't no snitch. [00:47:19] Speaker B: I mean cool, you know? [00:47:20] Speaker A: Wait. [00:47:20] Speaker B: If you so cool, then you need to stay in school and stay for the fight. [00:47:23] Speaker A: Yeah, but if I don't hang on. [00:47:24] Speaker B: Joe's side, him and he boys coming for me next. All right, so we definitely gotta tell somebody. We gotta prevent the fight. [00:47:29] Speaker A: What I say? [00:47:30] Speaker D: I don't want nobody call me snitch. [00:47:32] Speaker B: We could just call Crime Stoppers. You could report what you know and. [00:47:35] Speaker A: Nobody gotta notice you. [00:47:37] Speaker C: So let it avoid. [00:47:37] Speaker B: All you got to do is call them. Or you text them through the crack crime Bahamas and nobody can know it's you. Then the police come looking for me for more info. And when they finish with them, Joe. [00:47:46] Speaker D: Them Coming looking for me. [00:47:47] Speaker B: When you call crime stalkers, the call go directly to Miami and they don't ask nothing about you. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Then you can get the pin from them and they can claim a reward later using that same pen. Plus everything scrambled so nobody can read what you sent. Calls 328-8477 from Nassau or 242-300-8477 from the family Island. [00:48:04] Speaker B: This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. [00:48:13] Speaker A: 96.9 FM. [00:48:17] Speaker B: Yeah. This album is dedicated to all the teachers that told me I never amount to nothing. To all the people that lived above the buildings that I was hustling from that called the police on me when I was just trying to make some money to feed my daughter. Yeah, yeah. It's all my people's in the struggle, you know what I'm saying? It's all good. Baby, baby, shake it, shake it it was all a dream. I used to read Word up magazine Salt and pepper and heavy D up in the limousine Hanging pictures on my wall Every Saturday rap attack Mr. Magic Molly Mall I let my tape rock to my tape pop Smoking bamboo sipping on Private Stop Way back when I had the red and black lumberjack with the hat to max Remember rapping Duke. [00:48:57] Speaker C: The Hard, the Hard. [00:48:58] Speaker B: You never thought that hip hop would take it this far. Now I'm in the limelight cuz I rhyme tight Time to get paid blow up like the. And we are back. This is Guardian Radio today, 96.9 FM here in the Bahamas. If you notice, I'm putting on my future voice because why? Darvin Russell says. I said, darvin, what song do you want? He said, I want the song from Notorious B.I.G. now, me, I heard about the big I heard about, I think the other one named Tupac. Yeah, them fellas. Yeah, I. I stopped at the Sugar Hill guy. That's where I stopped with rap. So this new rap thing ain't my thing, but when it comes to dream. Yes, sir, this Notorious B.I.G. what's what the song title is again, Dar? [00:49:42] Speaker A: It was all a dream. I forget, I forget. The actual title is Up Juicy. Yeah, Juicy. Yeah. [00:49:46] Speaker B: And then, and then, and then. And then. And then Gabby can say, oh, yeah. And so then. And looking at the two of them, they're getting down. And then I see Darvin point over to the booth and Chris over there killing himself dancing. [00:49:59] Speaker D: I said, what? [00:50:02] Speaker A: Everybody know what time it is? [00:50:03] Speaker B: Man, this a old man's nightmare. Young people starting to shake up themselves and dance to this. This type of music. But we jamming with big today, and we talk about big dreams today with Darvin Russell. And we had Gabby. And Gabby just brought some more fire to this thing. I got all these smart people around me. Yesterday we had Debbie Bartlett, who's joined the team, and she'll be dropping in from time to time. Gabby, so you have a great lady to mentor you to take you even further. You see? You see how nice I am? [00:50:29] Speaker D: I know. God, okay, they can't talk bad. [00:50:32] Speaker B: But you to me, I keep telling these people, you know, I don't. They run. You know, they don't understand me yet. And then today is my last Friday. It's like. It's like what they call a good Friday. I don't have no more Fridays. So what that means is that Dwight Straws felt very, very much confident in me to have still the Monday and Thursday. But at the same time, there's enough respect for me to let me go fishing. [00:50:53] Speaker A: My Lord. [00:50:53] Speaker B: You like that? I like that. I like that, man. So I got Friday off. And so as a friend, I said, you know, the last Friday, it belongs to Darvin Russell because Darvin has been with me through and through the reigns of Darwin Russell. But I gotta do a little assignment before he gets back to talking with dreams. And this reads, you have heard it. Z live is moving to 12pm starting next week Tuesday. So the Tuesday coming right after the holiday, you're gonna get Z live with chivago line at 12pm to 2. And beginning next week, Guardian Raider today, which is this show will be moving into that spot from 2pm until 4pm and the person who will be hosting that program is Hakon Uncle Sora. You know, that's Cleveland Eneas III. So you will hear from him on Tuesday from 2, again from him on Wednesday, 2 to 4. And we won't be back until the Thursday, and then we're off on next Friday. So what that means then slick me. I. Slick me realize I only got one day next week. So what that means is I could go fishing. Oh, how you know we going fishing? And then that guy. We hold the ring. [00:52:02] Speaker A: He. [00:52:03] Speaker D: He done tell me that he didn't. He didn't give me the memo Thursday. [00:52:06] Speaker B: And that's what they do. [00:52:07] Speaker D: And you know, Thursday, I guess alligator people would they. [00:52:08] Speaker A: What? [00:52:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got plenty to close the door. Many things happening, buddy. All kinds of news. See? Okay, y' all want to talk politics, right? And I ain't taking no more Darwin show. But y' all want to talk politics. Right. When Gabi come. Gabby is the future. Gabby is the one you talk politics to in terms of building the nation for the future. Go is the past. I only bringing back the attention what already happened. But Darvin. Oh my gosh. Darvin could go left and right. He could talk politics or he could stick with God. So I think I got a good blend here. And then when Debbie comes along, of course she's a mentor to all of us. And so I think we're gonna have a great time here on Guardian radio today. And so none other than Darvin Russell, sir, you are the big dreamer. You are the Joseph of the day. [00:52:55] Speaker A: I am. [00:52:55] Speaker B: And Pharaoh has called you to interpret the dreams today. And so you'll hear now from my good friend Darvin Russell our last Friday sir. [00:53:03] Speaker A: So now, now, now. Some of us have Notorious big dreams. Others of us have Martin Luther King. [00:53:08] Speaker B: Explain the dreams of notorious. [00:53:09] Speaker A: So I am conflicted. [00:53:12] Speaker B: What's his dream? [00:53:13] Speaker A: His dream was that Honda Accord. You know, that's history. Was analogous to what Gabby was saying. [00:53:18] Speaker D: That's what I'm telling you. [00:53:19] Speaker A: It was very material. [00:53:20] Speaker D: That. That's because when you grew up in. In the slums. [00:53:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:53:25] Speaker D: You grew up seeing that only a certain caliber of people could obtain these things. You have to realize that that shapes your reality. That alters the way you dream. But when you start to expand your horizon and you get in the presence of CEOs and you realize, I don't have to just dream here. I could break the glass ceiling. I could. No matter how poor we grew up, I could still go to college. I could still become that doctor or that lawyer, that first generation, whatever it is. Break generational curses. You have to realize it's what people you only ras tabulosa. It's the theory that babies that. That humans are born with a blank slate. [00:54:13] Speaker B: But guess what? [00:54:14] Speaker D: And they learn based on their environments and what they see. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Garvin Russell, he exudes the confidence of a CEO everywhere he goes. The opportunity may not afford him to be there at this particular time for a corporation, but if you ask about ability, he has already prepared himself for that. Because somewhere I do believe he dreamt of being the person that he is today. [00:54:40] Speaker A: Been there, done that. Yeah. [00:54:41] Speaker B: So he's gone beyond wishes for me and he's gone to dreaming. [00:54:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:45] Speaker B: You Gabby, I would have assumed that you would have been at the age of wishing. But we've already been given the confidence that you are a dreamer. And your slate ahead of you is huge. And you are prepared to write your dream and to exercise it. And so Debbie has done her thing and she is still dreaming. And so Darvin Russell, the CEO that you are, continue to lead us into our dreams and tell us what this behemoth dream is really all about. [00:55:16] Speaker A: So for the first hour. So let me just wrap up this segment with going through these 12 million texts, as much as I can. This text reads, I want that free $100,000 per year Lincoln Bain promised me in Bahamian. Boy, lucky. [00:55:33] Speaker B: I love Bahamian. [00:55:33] Speaker A: I love my people. [00:55:34] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. [00:55:36] Speaker A: Usually we talk about politics. We're just reading the text, Mark. We just read. [00:55:40] Speaker B: Good day to us. [00:55:42] Speaker D: You understand that's good for you. God. [00:55:45] Speaker B: Good day to all. [00:55:46] Speaker A: The Bahamian dream is to successfully run a business in my country that will allow me to take care of my family without government assistance and to live abroad. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one, Gabby. [00:55:59] Speaker D: To live abroad. [00:56:00] Speaker A: To live abroad as well. [00:56:01] Speaker D: You won't be on the boat with that. [00:56:02] Speaker A: Check it out. This ain't. This ain't the only one. My aspiration is to depart the Bahamas, establishing a vacation residence and subsequently relocate to the United States. I am drawn to the dynamic pace of life prevalent in the United States. What a time. The Bahamian dream is to make the Bahamas Bahamian again. Boy, you all trap, see. [00:56:24] Speaker B: Bye. [00:56:26] Speaker A: Good day, brothers David Goth and Lady Gabby. Lady Gabby, look here. Government do let go if staff with wrongful termination or by coding one salary. My dream is job security, proper health care and good education for all Baymans. Man, look here, you're so smart. I love my people. Yeah, two above in every category. Then build a better Bahamas for the world to appreciate. That's from the mayor of Grand Bahama. In general, in general terms, the Bahamian dream is financial independence, home ownership, a good education and a stable job, usually in the government or one of our biggest economic sectors, thereby breaking generational curses of financial hardship, getting married, having children and giving them a better life than we have. And finally, the ability to retire without financial worries. I have some smart people. Callie, you're on the air with Darwin, Gabby and Garth. We're talking the Bahamian dream today. What say you? I like that laugh. [00:57:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I will laugh too. Go ahead. [00:57:44] Speaker C: Anyway, it's a story in the, in the papers, right, about the Bahamas real estate association and the president is complaining about, oh, you know, what is the government is going to do about high cost of rent. [00:58:00] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:58:01] Speaker C: Right? [00:58:02] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:58:03] Speaker C: Now go back about what, 25 years. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:58:09] Speaker C: When they, when the Ingram administration repealed the immovable property. [00:58:16] Speaker A: I remember. [00:58:17] Speaker C: Okay? Now in that single move, get put into play a whole series of events that we have yet to recover from. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:58:29] Speaker C: You know, that is why this Bahamian dream is going to be a problem. We don't own much of our land. [00:58:39] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [00:58:40] Speaker C: We don't have access to much. I mean, I remember fellas selling off crown land, prime beach property in the island. You know, we. We gotta stop playing this game and trying to sell stuff that we can't sell. [00:58:59] Speaker A: Can I, Can I, can I be trapsy for a minute with you, if you don't mind? [00:59:02] Speaker C: Please, please. [00:59:03] Speaker A: One of the things, I do not disagree with you, just in principle, okay? I was not the best move for us overall. But one of the things about this conversation that I think gets lost and I don't want to deviate too much from my topic today, but one of the. I want to answer this because this comes up periodically in con that I have not yet been a part of. So I'll deal with it here. One of the things that I think is missing from this conversation is the fact that the removal of that provision that prohibited foreigners from owning property, the effect of that really happened only on the margins, if we're truthful. It happened on coastal areas, high end property developments only. This property appreciation didn't happen in South Beach. Carmichael Road, Golden Gates. No, no, Just hear me out for a minute. Sea Breeze, Camperdown. Right? I'm not saying that those property prices didn't increase, but the astronomical rate of increase occurred more on the coastline. What that created, however, was this land grab situation in the family islands, which was distasteful to me because you took from families that had very. Who probably didn't realize even how value the properties were sold to unscrupulous people who then ended up reselling. And the government was able to facilitate that also by giving huge swaths of crown land to unscrupulous developers. But I don't want to digress. So what I would say though is a bigger problem with the escalation of home ownership in the Bahamas had to do with the fact, in my humble opinion, with the scarcity of inventory. You do realize that outside of Frankie Wilson, we don't have any real Bahamian developers, right? [01:00:48] Speaker C: Can I ask you? [01:00:50] Speaker A: Sure. [01:00:51] Speaker C: Okay. See, I think that repeal was unnecessary. [01:00:57] Speaker A: Okay, I agree with you. By the way, after. [01:01:00] Speaker C: After the American Civil War, most of the property in this country was divided up between the Loyalists and the Royalists. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:01:09] Speaker C: So you know, the guys who are in breed, you know, they had land to sell, but they wanted to sell something else. And in that same context, they actually sold away the future of many behemoths. Yes, sir, and that's the point I. [01:01:29] Speaker A: Want to make, actually. No, I appreciate you and one of these days I think we need to actually go deep into that conversation on the cost of real estate and rent in this country because it's, it's come up too often for us not to really dissect it and get to the bottom of it. I appreciate your call, sir. Have a great Friday and a good weekend. Let me get through these last quest texts before we move on, Gabby. Tradesmen make a lot of money too, Gabby. Trust me, it's just hard work. Hence, that's why. And why we have eventually lost beach access. The question is how we could get from our present reality to this nice dream. That is the question of the day. The second part to my, to my question today, before we get, we get lost in the weeds too much, is what is your desire and your dream for the country? So we talked about the dream for you individually. What is your dream for the Bahamas? And I'm going to do the reverse of what I did with the previous one. I'm going to tell you what my dream is for our country. I will read that to you and see if you disagree with my perspective and if you have anything else to add. So I said this. I dream of a safe, corruption free Bahamas that provides an excellent quality of life for all Bahamians regardless of income levels, in a citizen friendly, technologically sophisticated environment where godly principles are the ethos of our community and connection as a commonwealth. That's mine. That's my dream for Mike. Now some of you, I know God so trapsy, you already thinking about something, something, something else. But some of you may have different ideas of what you want the Bahamas to look like. Gabby, what is your dream for the country? [01:03:21] Speaker D: I don't disagree with you. I don't, I don't disagree with you in principle at all. Based on what? What do you envision for the Bahamas? I envision the same. I also envision a Bahamas where things are passed down to generations, where we, where we stop skipping over generations and we bring in proper succession planning. [01:03:45] Speaker A: Talk about it. [01:03:46] Speaker D: Let's talk about it. God, let's talk about it. Let's talk about when it's time to go on a fishing boat and fish that you've successfully mentored and trained up so you don't have to worry that it's going to. Everything is going to fall apart. And so that they don't stick you in a corner when your hands start to shake and you can't walk anymore, you successfully next generation. That's. That's. [01:04:13] Speaker A: I like that. [01:04:13] Speaker D: I want to expand that to. To your dream Davin. That. That's the Bahamas. And I. I know you mentioned the Christian values. I won't be trapsy right now. And I should wear sweetheart and fall in that. [01:04:26] Speaker A: My Lord. [01:04:26] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:29] Speaker A: Hey, hey. Y' all stay focused today. [01:04:31] Speaker D: I. I want to know where it fall in that because, you know, I. [01:04:34] Speaker A: I didn't mention that in mine. Now if that in yours and God. I know. Nurse listening. God, is that in yours? [01:04:39] Speaker B: Listen to me. [01:04:40] Speaker D: I said it. [01:04:41] Speaker A: Bye. [01:04:41] Speaker D: But I wanted to be dropsy. [01:04:43] Speaker B: That's what I got. The one thing that has evaded the Commonwealth of the Bahamas present and past is honesty. Just honesty. Even in light of the Christian nation that you mentioned, I find many Christian people have been compromised and the sin of choice. Who in our country is telling lies? The commandment that says thou shalt not bear false witness. [01:05:19] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:05:21] Speaker B: Is so easily utilized in this country, it's unbelievable, because whenever it's made convenient for us to tell a lie and benefit, lies are told. [01:05:33] Speaker A: Gotcha. [01:05:35] Speaker B: If we looked at our country and its history, which we keep away from the generation that Gabby speaks about, as to why we're not mentoring and passing this knowledge. Gabby, you have to go back to when Long Key was the economic capital for our people. [01:05:51] Speaker A: All right. [01:05:52] Speaker B: And ask yourself the question, why is Long Key no longer the capital of commerce in our country? You have to ask the question, why isn't and Inagua key ports in a country that is so close to countries like Cuba and Haiti and Dominican Republic and Jamaica and the rest of the Caribbean basin, why have we not developed these places to be stopped over? Vacation places for people who own expensive yachts and aircraft? Do you know that marijuana boasted of the second longest Runway in this hemisphere? The entire hemisphere. But we have not utilized it. We have not even really truly versed about it. We've not tried to develop it. Only now is Meguana getting the attention that it needs. There's so much to offer in terms of Siso, in terms of. When we talk about Madeira bark, when we talk about all of the natural resources of the country. Gabby, we don't about talk. Need to pass on this information to you about fishing in this country. The problem with the generational gap is that I'm finding The generation behind us is expecting me to stop the fight that I'm now endured in and start to teach you. And so what happens to the fight? You see, I can't do the two at the same time. He's a big fan. He's a big fan of doing two things at once. See, he believes in that. Me personally. The fight for us right now, you're talking about real estate issues. You're talking about financial economic woes and, and high cost of rent and all these. I'm fighting these fights with you. I am here with you young people. But when I ask you for your strength, see, I am older and wiser. But you're telling me I stupid at my age. Yeah, that's what the young people are, stupid. I don't know what they're talking about. And at the same time, you want me give you what I got, so I must be really stupid. [01:07:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:49] Speaker B: So I can tell you carry assets, ideal liabilities down the road. I got no time for you young people who don't understand how this thing go. Now, if you truly want to learn, you got to join me in this fight. [01:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:08:00] Speaker B: You got to prove to me that you are deserving of what I have. [01:08:03] Speaker C: You. [01:08:04] Speaker B: And until then, because generational gap, this Bahamas has already presented to its entire citizenry in an honest way what we have to offer. [01:08:12] Speaker A: I got an answer for both of you. [01:08:14] Speaker B: We have been dishonest in that recognition. We do not want to say, oh, the most abundant natural resource in this country is fishing. [01:08:22] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:08:23] Speaker B: Millions and millions and millions of fish could feed the whole world. You want me buy you the boat, right? You want me get the fishing line, the oil, the hook, the bait, the ice, the food on the boat. You only maintain me do all these things. When I reach back to the dock, you will take all the things. [01:08:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Call. You're on. You're on with Gabby, Darvin and Garth. What is your idea of the Bahamian dream? What is your dream for the country? Because we've already dealt with the dream personally. So what's your dream for the country? [01:08:51] Speaker C: Y' all can hear me clearly? [01:08:52] Speaker A: We can perfectly hear you, Papa. Go ahead. [01:08:54] Speaker C: Yeah, this is. This is LeBron. Some of y' all know me, some of you. [01:08:59] Speaker A: Oh, go ahead. My apologies. Go ahead. [01:09:01] Speaker C: Yeah, this is LeBron. Yeah. Now, what I'm saying is, I like how you was talking about earlier about the. The dream for the country. Yes, sir, a nice and peaceful Bahamas. Get along and all that. But I just want to say the first call to action is action. And when you look at the financial side of it, that's a totally different story. [01:09:24] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:09:25] Speaker C: Why people like to migrate to the. [01:09:26] Speaker A: US Because I got you look at. [01:09:29] Speaker C: How, look at how we, you know as a, you have a poor family, they live in off a minimum wage and the minimum wage is below 250 that you go to the grocery store that then gone. [01:09:41] Speaker A: Yeah, the minimum wage is below a little. [01:09:43] Speaker B: I think, I think you're an intelligent caller but I would disagree with you in what respect? Because I live there, I still have a house in the U.S. i can tell you living in the U.S. right now, easy. [01:09:52] Speaker A: I got another answer for the caller though. But I think, I think, but I think he's a great conversation, smart. [01:09:57] Speaker B: But it's just that the evidence right now is different. Very much different. [01:10:00] Speaker A: So I'm going to explain to him my perspective on that. Thank you caller. Next caller, you're on the air with Darvin, Gabby and Garth. We're talking what is your dream for the Bahamas? [01:10:11] Speaker C: Good afternoon. [01:10:11] Speaker A: Good afternoon. Hey guy, good ambassador, you got, you got one good minute. No man, you got one good minute. Okay. I can give you 67 seconds. You got 67 seconds. [01:10:26] Speaker C: Antonio, I wanted to speak from the perspective of what you were touching on relating. You didn't feel like the property appreciation. [01:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:41] Speaker C: And the coastline community for upper middle class, middle class communities didn't impact the, I guess over the hill communities and what used to be considered middle class communities like south beach, etc. [01:10:56] Speaker A: Go ahead. [01:10:57] Speaker C: Over the country and staple in other areas. I want to, I want to, I want to differ a little and suggest that not only did it, did it impact the value of property, it impacted an entire mindset in terms of rental value. [01:11:13] Speaker B: Yes. [01:11:14] Speaker C: Because of the astronomical, the supremacy of rent and, and the rate, the swiftness at which the rate of rent and property value would have appreciated after foreigners were able to gouge lots of land in our country for development purposes. Right. Partnering with behemoths as well in developments. You know, you know we call it the frontman per se. [01:11:43] Speaker A: Yes. [01:11:45] Speaker C: It would have. Taking the dream away. [01:11:48] Speaker A: Yes. [01:11:48] Speaker C: Because the dream is always if you're at the poverty class to work towards the working class. If you had the working class to work towards the middle class, if you had the middle class to work towards the upper middle class, it is taking away that dream and made it 1000% time based on how much the property has become out of reach for average and everyday behemoth and even for middle class humans. I might add to that bunch right I'll end with this. And thank you for the opportunity also. Pardon me. [01:12:24] Speaker A: No, go ahead, Anton, go ahead. [01:12:26] Speaker C: Yeah, also, God was saying something that I thought was very important. We have been just giving opportunities to our children, to our offspring, rather than making them to show their worthiness and to earn whatever it is they're going to receive, whether it be knowledge, whether it be support, whether it be finance, whatever the case may be. And so we are in essence, helping towards developing a lazy nation. [01:12:57] Speaker A: Yes. [01:12:57] Speaker C: That. That doesn't appreciate the value of whatever it is they would have gained and hence would lose it or give it away within a split moment's notice of receiving it. Thank you for the opportunity. [01:13:08] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:13:08] Speaker C: I look forward to the day when you expire. [01:13:11] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Because we have to have this conversation. Thank you, Anton. Let me, let me try to tackle a couple of these issues at the same time. It's obvious that this conversation around real estate has to be had. And I think, I think we need to do that to say, well, three of us are in our studio. No, no, no, that's fine. No, no, we on vacation, Gabby, next Thursday. [01:13:34] Speaker D: Just bring me back. I didn't tell you. Bring me back my old snapper. [01:13:42] Speaker A: I really think that this is important because we have to dig deeper into this because so much of this, the subtext of this is so much more economic than people realize, being in an organized way in this country to alleviate some of these challenges that people have. The US went through a cycle of boom and BUST after the 80s real estate crash, right? Developers stopped building, just completely stopped building. They lost so much money in the 80s, they just stopped building. What is the US experiencing now, 25, 30 plus years later? A boom in real estate prices that has that, that is directly proportional to a supply versus demand issue. There aren't enough houses for the people that want houses in the Bahamas. We have the same underlying problem. Developers don't build houses. And when they build them, they are so profit driven that it prices the average person out of a market unnecessarily. So there is so much going. There are so many layers to this that we need to talk about that require greater ventilation. But let me answer you and Gabby's little tiff prior to us taking the break, this conflict that we have between those that are on the scene, getting ready to depart and those that are coming up, I do not believe that the people who are near retirement, 55 plus years old, whatever age you want to do that cutoff at those 35 years older, are fighting a different fight. Actually, I believe that the fight is the same. I think what we are missing is the fact that the fight is a money fight. The fight isn't even an opportunity fight. Because Garth doesn't want to stay working any longer than he wants to. He is only staying in that position, denying it to you and yours because he has to financially. Why? He's never made enough income, he's never saved enough money, he's never invested properly. [01:15:43] Speaker B: Why? [01:15:43] Speaker A: Maybe because of lack of knowledge, maybe because of lack of opportunity, but he never did that. So what does he do? He prolongs his retirement as long as now he's post 55, now he's post 60. 60. And he knows he's running out of time. At a minimum, in his mind, his little humble understanding of finances. He got at least pay this mortgage off. He still got a mortgage. My daddy didn't have a mortgage. My daddy stopped paying a mortgage before he was even 40. [01:16:10] Speaker D: Most persons just getting a mortgage, Gabby. [01:16:13] Speaker A: So the same fight that Garth is talking about is the fact that he bought his home later. You can't even buy a home, okay? So in 15 years you could be just like him, fighting the same the next 35 year old like you. Because we haven't fixed the fight how we do breaking. I could tell you right now. Callie, you're on the air with Garth, Gavin and Gabby, we're talking what is the Bahamian dream? [01:16:36] Speaker C: I love the conversation. Good afternoon to all of you. [01:16:39] Speaker A: How are you my brother? [01:16:39] Speaker D: Good afternoon. [01:16:40] Speaker C: I'm doing great. Gabby, nice to hear your voice, garb as usual. And Davin. Yeah, doing an excellent job. I really love this conversation. [01:16:49] Speaker A: Thank you, sir. [01:16:49] Speaker C: Let me, let me try to put something in context. Yes sir, if I can and have you guys expand on it. You know, we talk about owning homes and having the ability to own land and everything in the country because they are far out of the reach. Especially if the parents, they have not passed on land to their, to their children. Currently, yes. And the children, when they get off a certain age, they will then go there and look for land for themselves. Let me propose this and hear you all views on this. [01:17:20] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:17:21] Speaker C: You know, it goes back to the vision and the planning of this country from, from the first leader from the UBP side, but let's say from the first pending administration to now. Let me see if I can put this into a context that everybody can appreciate. You know, the thing is, the vision that I had, that I had for this country upon retreat was that the prosperity level in this country been so grateful in the hands of the Bahamian people that this conversation we having today would not even be one that needed to be had. [01:17:54] Speaker A: Gotcha. [01:17:54] Speaker C: Right now as it stands, we have the non development of our family islands. For instance, whereas many persons in New Providence would have stayed on their islands had the proper infrastructure been put in these islands to create an economic boom where these persons who own land on these islands would have developed them, had structures on them, perhaps even had Airbnbs, hotels, that is, and so on, so forth. That vision has not been really, you know, brought forward in the light that many persons would have loved to. Thus we have this housing crisis. Could you imagine if our islands, our major islands were all developed to a point where they were self sufficient, steaming, Whereas you wouldn't have the crowd here in New Providence to hub where everybody's coming here looking for housing. But it's not going to happen because we have run out of land here in New Providence. Where is the vision for putting the infrastructure on our family islands to get our people to go back to their individual islands to begin to develop the land and create their own economic stability? [01:19:06] Speaker A: Thanks, Jeff. [01:19:07] Speaker C: That's not happening. Where's the visionary leaders that we have been talking about for so long today? I'm going to tell you, sadly to say these islands are not going to be developed to the level that many of us will have suspected that it would because our leaders would not put in the proper infrastructure on these islands to get Nassau depopulated, get the persons who had the vision, who have the wherewithal, who wants to go on these islands and develop them and really bring about a true economic vehicle for the entire country to prosper. That is not happening. This is the conversation that needs to be had. [01:19:48] Speaker A: Thank you, Jim. [01:19:49] Speaker C: You know, we are like spinning on this, on this ever turning wheel going nowhere fast. And we can fix it, but we just need people of vision who can, who wants to propel this country forward. [01:19:59] Speaker A: Thank you, sir. [01:20:00] Speaker C: The immigration. Let's fix the housing, let's fix the employment situation and get the Bahamian people prosperous as we deserve to be. [01:20:08] Speaker A: All right, we're gonna take a break and when we get back, we're gonna continue this conversation in the last segment. What is the Bahamian dream? We'll be back. [01:20:18] Speaker B: All day Spread love it's the Brooklyn way the mo wet and alize keep me pissy Girls used to dis me now they write letters it's cause they miss me I never thought it could happen it's rapping stuff I was too used to packing gats and stuff. 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Lunches, brunches, interviews by the fool cause they dropped out of high school stereotypes of a black man. And we're back. This is Garden Radio today 96 6.9 FM. I'm sitting in studio today with none other than Darvin Russell and Gabby McKenzie Eneas. My name is Garth Menard Rosebar. This is our last Friday. Next week Friday, Guardian Radio is going to try something different, something new. We have not been made privy to what that is, but we will be with you on Mondays and Thursdays of each week from 2 to 4pm and Uncle Surah will be with you on Tuesdays and Wednesdays of each week. And of course, see live with Chicago Line moves up to 12pm to 2pm each weekday. And we're having a great conversation here with none other than Darvin Russell, who's leading the discussion today along with Gabby Eneas. I'm just sitting here just observing the younger people. I'm the old man in the room and I'm listening to your conversation. I'm so thankful for you engaging with us at this time. And David, I heard some very, very interesting remarks. I, I'm kind of like questioning the one about life in America, the dream of America. You have lived there? [01:25:03] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:25:03] Speaker B: And I, I'm just hoping that before the end of the show you would give the Bahamian people some insight as to how we compare the American dream now presently with the Bahamian dream. And I just like to preempt and say that I do believe that the American dream has become much more difficult at this time. You actually have a better chance of dreaming in the Bahamas. But this is your show. [01:25:26] Speaker A: Yes, sir. [01:25:27] Speaker B: Not going to take it over. So I'm going to turn the microphone back over to none other than Darvin Russell. [01:25:31] Speaker A: Thank you, sir. All right, so let's get to these last few texts before I answer Garth and the caller's questions as it relates to the cost of living issue. Excellent talk show. Today we have generations of properties. Now the government is taking one's property away through real property taxes. Why work against property ownership? That creates wealth for Bahamians. We need a turnaround for a better Bahamas for the future. Y' all ain't see the price of lumber. [01:26:02] Speaker B: Okay. [01:26:05] Speaker A: Good afternoon. What Jeff is talking about, our government intentionally did boom the islands because they had a plan to let the wealthy buy up most of the land to sell to foreigners for the millions they are selling for. And this is why Bahamians can't afford land in their own country. I can't argue at that point. This will be the last call we take before I answer the other questions. Caller, you're on the air. What is the Bahamian dream? [01:26:32] Speaker B: Well, I don't know the Bohemian dream. [01:26:35] Speaker C: Is because we set a scope for someone to reach. [01:26:39] Speaker A: Like back in the day, you would. [01:26:40] Speaker B: Be like, all right, you buy the dream, you buy a house on your yourself. [01:26:45] Speaker A: Okay? [01:26:45] Speaker C: Now, like you just mentioned, the real property. Now you then finish working hard to pay for your place. Now they, they, now they want to tax it. You can't pay for it, they take it back from you. So when does the dream stop? When do you achieve it? [01:27:01] Speaker A: Yes, sir, fair point. Thank you for your contribution. All right, Garth, so let me answer the question for you and the caller. This issue with living in the United States versus living in the Bahamas. When I taught at cob now the University of the Bahamas, I used to have fascinating dialogue with my, with my students. Miss that time in my life. But one of the things that would periodically come up during those conversations is, man, Mr. Russell, by how you could leave all our money, you could leave the US and sometimes I start laughing at them. I was like, here's my advice to all of you. If you want to go, go have the experience, but don't romanticize the place. We have a tendency, because we haven't had the experience to romanticize America. It's the same thing tourists do when they visit the Bahamas. You romanticize it because you're here on vacation. You don't live this life that we live on a daily basis. So when it comes to the average everyday living, I promise you, you'd rather be poor in the Bahamas than poor in America. [01:28:20] Speaker D: I always say that. [01:28:21] Speaker A: Okay, the way that you benefit the chasm that is evident that I think Bahamians are talking about between here and there is for college educated Bahamians only. And that is for what I call the middle part of your life immediately post graduation and maybe for the next 10 to 15 years. And then after that point, living in the Bahamas becomes better again. And let me explain what I mean by that. My niece, who is now maybe 30, 31, means she graduated about six, eight years ago from Florida State. I ain't gonna call her name because I know she won't be talking my business on international radio. But nevertheless, I'm using it to present a point. And I have more than one niece. She graduated and her offer to go into finance, which was her undergraduate degree, was 60 plus thousand. Watch the dates now. [01:29:22] Speaker D: Entry level in the Bahamas. [01:29:24] Speaker A: Okay, this is 2018. You're right, Gabby. If you work in finance in the Bahamas, offshore banks, big law firms, commercial banks, I would hazard a guess. I stopped teaching at UB in 22,000, 10, 11. Okay, but in 2018, the entry level salaries are probably in the neighborhood of maybe 35, 40,000. That's at best. That's the top tier offer for an undergraduate in the Bahamas with a degree in finance. And the degree in finance at UB comes with a minor in a foreign language. So you are top tier people, cpa, top tier accounting and finance graduates. That's what you can expect to make. I would hazard a guess that in 2025 it hasn't changed much from that. People with an undergraduate degree in the United States are routinely from a good school making 65, $70,000 undergraduate degree. Watch this now. For the next 10 or 15 years, they will out earn their Bahamian counterpart all day, every day and twice on Sunday. They will be able to afford themselves a home faster, a car faster, save easier. Here's what happens though. The nature of life in the United States, as much as you try to resist it, is very consumer driven. You feel the need to buy a nicer car every time you get a raise, to move into a bigger house every time you get a raise so that extra income that you earn vis a vis your Bahamian colleague, friend, family member evaporates without you even realizing. So what happens now is if you're not pragmatic, judicious, incredibly disciplined about your Money in the US you will find that at 55 and at 60 you are dependent upon a 401k, which hopefully you did. Your quality of life will fall precipitously post retirement because the average American never pays off their home. Never do. What they do is they downsize. They take the equity that they may have profited from and buy something smaller and the hopes that they die without a mortgage. In the Bahamas, we're one and done. Whatever you buy first is what you die in. We do very little upgrading when it comes to homeownership in this country. That allows you 2 by 55 at the latest. By 60, your home is paid off. Now. The caller is right. We now have the advent of property taxes, which is what my parents didn't have to deal with in any meaningful way, continuing to allow you to have a payment. So the strategy that I have for my friends that live there versus I live here is somewhat nuanced in the U.S. my advice to them is always look. Find the relative value proposition where your income ratio to your home raise the cost of a home is at its lowest. You move there when at all possible, pay off your home by 50, 55 if possible, and do not buy another one in the Bahamas. What I say to you is you should always buy a multifamily property as your first home. Don't ever buy a single family property in 2025. That's unwise anymore. Why? Because the price relative to your income is too steep. You will never pay that off in any reasonable amount of time unless you are a top earning person. But if you are the average behemoth making 35, $45,000, especially single, you should be trying to buy the nicest home or the smallest home, sorry in the nicest not that exists that you can afford and you let your tenant plus which you would be paying in rent or a mortgage add up so that you pay that off as quickly as possible. That's my humble advice. That's what my suggestion would be. And that's why life in the United States appears differently. Because the lens with which you're looking at it through is from a very specific perspective that's very nuanced. It is not all people who are making that. That's not even the average person's experience because the average American still doesn't have a college degree. That's not their lived experience. [01:34:13] Speaker B: Well, we'd like to thank Darwin Russell today for his presentation. I think there's so much more left to be discussed, especially when it comes to land and its value and how we're going to get out of this pickle. This is Guardian Radio Today, 96.9 FM. And as I said to you, we're going to go to a new time slot, 2 to 4pm Z Live is going to move up to 12 to 2 each weekday. And as next week we're gonna hear from Lady Gabby first. She's gonna come first at the gate on Thursday. Looking forward to a great discussion with her. She is young but she is extremely intelligent. We appreciate that virtue coming from her. [01:34:51] Speaker A: We can be listening from the boat. [01:34:52] Speaker B: We thank her husband who's our number one support. I'm just number two support. She said, how you get to number two baby? I said, you know that's how July people go. Cause her husband where they one day after, after my. [01:35:03] Speaker A: My Lord. [01:35:03] Speaker B: So we, we kind of close like that. But I think a mommy and some other people might come in between but everything cool. Gabby. [01:35:09] Speaker D: Mommy, she lied to you. [01:35:10] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, good woman. We're looking forward to her Thursday. So Gabby, if you want to give some words of encouragement to tune in next week Thursday, what you talking about? [01:35:18] Speaker A: What you talking about? [01:35:19] Speaker D: Next week Thursday we could be touching politics. You know we have politics hot on the street right now. The people nagging me, God, you ain't touching it, but I go pick it up. [01:35:29] Speaker A: Gabby said the block is hot on. [01:35:30] Speaker D: Thursday it's hot on Thursday. The block is hot. Notice has be given. If you ain't get my money, ring the bell. I mean, come on. God, what you. What you told I was gonna do? [01:35:45] Speaker B: Well, I know you're gonna do it, right? And you know you gotta tune in. Be here next week, Thursday at 2pm sharp. You know, it's going to be a great time. And for those of you who've tuned in today with you, we appreciate you. We love you. This has been Guardian Radio today 96.9 FM, once again thanking Darvin Russell. We're out of here, folks, but you enjoy the music. And Z Live is actually next. [01:36:10] Speaker A: Don't go eat no rockfish this weekend. [01:36:12] Speaker B: No rockfish? [01:36:13] Speaker A: No rockfish? [01:36:14] Speaker B: No barracuda? [01:36:15] Speaker A: No. No what. [01:36:19] Speaker B: Side? [01:36:19] Speaker A: No Horse eye Jack? [01:36:21] Speaker B: No. [01:36:22] Speaker A: Have a great weekend, everybody. Y' all be safe out there. Everyone. [01:36:33] Speaker B: Was missing. To protect my position, my corner, my layer While we out here say the hustler's prayer if the game shakes me or breaks me I hope it makes me a better man Take a better stand Put money in my mom's hand get my daughter this college plan so she don't need no man Stay far from timid Only make moves when your heart's in it and live the free Sky's the limit, limit, limit. [01:37:11] Speaker A: Just keep. [01:37:12] Speaker B: On pressing on. [01:37:32] Speaker A: Just keep on, sky. [01:37:37] Speaker D: If you. [01:37:42] Speaker B: Know that you keep on. [01:37:43] Speaker C: Just keep on pressing on Sky.